Non-Lethal Protection

There is a lot of talk about using guns for protection, but once you draw a gun on a person, you have seriously committed yourself to a split second life/death decision -

a bean bag gun. or a real gun, if they want your stuff so bad that theyd steal from someone else who needs them, they deserve to die.

I agree with 2if but it will still be hard to shoot someone.  Maybe when the time comes we will have a differant mindset.   Even if you chase them away you're just sending them to rob someone else. Remember in the movies how the bad guy keeps coming back?

So Kool and 2if are right--shoot first and shoot straight.

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2if I forgot how to send a PM- think I have oldtimers. HELP!!!!!!!!

For those of you that do have 12 gauge shotguns you can get bird banger shells on the internet. What they do is jump out  about 200 ft and make a big bang. Would make someone think twice about coming up the drive.  Might be a good non lethal defense. Get some cherry bombs if legal in your area and use in the sling shots like we did as kids. Think someone sneaking up to you.  Pop a parachute flare and fire some shots their way. Gather old oil from gas stations and use it to make the driveway slippery. (not a good enviromental thing but this is war)  Get some eggs now and set them in the sunshine to get rotten. Carefully shoot them in the slingshots or throw them. Stinky garbage piled outside the doors would make someone think twice. If you can find a place to buy it get some carbon disulfide. its the chemical that makes rotten eggs smell rotten. we learned this in high school and got in a little trouble. snicker.

In other words do not make the place look like a fort that is guarding something. Make it look like a place where no one wants to be or investigate.

in a word, no.  non lethal weapons are notoriously unreliable.  in the sort of situation that we are envisioning here, you are just taking your life into your hands.  essentially what you are doing is finding a way to piss off the people who are about to become the most important people in your life.

  not to mention that anything coming oput of a shotgun is going to be lethal at short range.  just not reliably so.
  pat

getting hit by a frozen chicken could be lethal!

2if you are so funny. But don't forget I'll be carrying a shotgun too with pistols etc strapped to me.

Reminded me of Treasure Island with the old guy that was marooned there.

More rain here. Please send donations we are building a boat 100 cubits  X 300 cubits.  A cubit is a metric yard.

oldasrocks wrote: So if I do shoot someone what do i do with the body or bodies?    Just remember the three basic 'S's:   Shoot Shovel Shut up!   Will the local  police, military or whoever is in charge try to arrest homeowners who are protecting themselves?    I would think they would arrest only if they witness a murder as opposed to self-defense. No witnesses? See above!

I got it: a Trebuchet.

It will deter any bad guy kicking in your door.

http://www.trebuchet.com/

try a medieval sling, they take a lot of practice for proficiency, but they make a great subsistance tool, and were one of the classical weapons of war.  you can get a ball mold made so you can cast your own shot.  i had a 1 inch mold made for mine but you can also use round creek stones, or in a pinch anything you can fit into the pocket.  i have made both leather and woven wool models.
  sort of lends a new meaning to the phrase "he's got big balls".
  pat

Maybe I'll build a moat with alligators, water moccasins, snapping turtles, and pirahna.

 you bet, hogs are both smart and dangerous, sometime i'll tell you the story of how i tought a pig to fly.  of course the pig didn't survive the process.
  pat

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oldasrocks wrote: I found an answer for 40. Build a catapult. Procure a large bunch of live chickens now. Freeze them whole feathers and all. When the bad guys come lob a few chickens their way. I'm actually thinking of doing just that. Or at least hang a few on the front fence. I have to get rid of these chickens and guineas somehow anyway.

Slaughter and can them before they get sick!
    

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oldasrocks wrote: So I went out and bought a full state of the art security camera system for the place.

Actually after searching the net I stopped into Radio Shack in Spingfield and found just what I wanted.  Yes the cameras have IR. Its only a 4 camera system -prefer 6 - but I think it will work.  I'm pretty sure I can convert it to 12V although will have to buy a 12v TV.  The whole system won't be much over $700.

Come help me hook it up 2if. God forbid I have to read instructions.

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