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    Posted: January 25 2006 at 6:44pm

This is perhaps an aspect of a pandemic and the resulting shortages and economic chaos that many of us have not yet considered.

We have discussed at length here about the need for people to keep food and water on hand  in the event that the normal supply channels for these essentials is disrupted.  Many here have wisely extended this initiative in laying in backup supplies for their domestic companion animals.  However, just as we realize that many oblivious people will fail to heed the warnings, and in turn subject themselves to great privation, the question arises:  What will these "grasshoppers" do about their domestic animals?  Specifically the concern centers around dogs.  There are many people who feel that their dog is a member of the family, equal to their children, who must be fed before they themselves will eat. Conversely, there are those who consider Fido as an expendable asset, and in times of great privation, a headcount to be downsized.

The more courageous and astute will take the proper step of euthanizing an animal for whom they can no longer provide.  However, there may be many who will lack the courage or the foresight to deal effectively with their unwanted dog, and will simply turn him loose to "fend for himself".  Imagine this scenario taking place in households all over your community, 10, 100 or 1000 times.  In normal times, there will be animal shelters and dog-catchers to take these unwanted dogs off the street, but during a crisis, these services are apt to fall short or be entirely non-existent.  What then becomes of these newly feral carnivores?  Can you imagine 1000 desperately hungry carnivores, reverting to their instincts, forming packs, and roaming the streets of your city?  Our nation has previous experience with this scenario to an extent in the Great Depression, and to a lesser extent in many of the subsequent economic downturns.  The results are not pretty, nor are they for the faint of heart.

Here are some accounts of formerly domestic and feral dogs, following their instincts and "fending for themselves". 

http://www.webpal.org/a_reconstruction/immediate/death/dogs. htm

http://www.survival-center.com/buckshot/moredogs.htm

http://www.survival-center.com/buckshot/dogs3.htm

http://www.survival-center.com/buckshot/dogs3-more.htm

I am a great dog lover, in fact I have placed my dog of 12 years at the head of my "must have" list for getting thru a pandemic, simply because of the great love and emotional rapport we share.  However, the threat of feral and probably starving dogs running loose in packs during a pandemic is one that I feel must be considered, and the possibility taken very seriously.

For this reason (and for others) if I need to go outside during a pandemic I will most definitely be armed.



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A hungry dog will eat just about anything. I've had several people ask me about this lately, those who are concerned for their pets and themselves.  You can prepare for your dog the same food you will eat.  A picky dog won't eat it - until he/she is hungry and then they'll definitely eat it.

But with food in short supply, you are quite right about feral animals (not just dogs, this could affect a whole bunch of domesticated animals).

It's one thing to consider your own pets - but what can you do about all the others?

Feral dogs at 'my house' will be shot, IF they are outside (nearby) and problematic.  Otherwise, I'd probably leave them alone.  Who knows is they'll make it on their own?  They will undoubtedly revert to a certain wildness in any case and some animals will adapt. 

It's doubtful that I'd attempt to feed them however.  The coyotes are pretty thick here and would quickly dispatch them in any case.
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I hate to say it but I watched a survival program about being lost in the woods... the one thing I remember was the statement "if it has hair you can eat it"

Dogs have hair.

I wonder if people will get desperate enough to... you know...

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P.S. Please dont send me a bunch of mean PMs for that. I LOVE DOGS, especially my dog!!! I was just wondering out loud.
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i AM SO GLAD SOMEONE PUT OUT THIS POST BECAUSE IM  NOT THAT ARTICULATE AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM CARE ABOUT  THEIR PETS AND ARE PLANNING FOR THEIR CARE 

 BUT THERE DOSE NEED TO BE SOME PLANNING AROUND  THE ANIMAL POPULATION MY HOPE IS THAT SOMEONE MORE ARTICULATE  THAN ME  CAN REACH OTHER WEB SITES WITH A PRO-ACTIVE  CARING PLAN FOR ANIMALS  

 i WILL STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS ON MY POSTS BECAUSE I FEEL THAT  THERE ARE PEOPLE MORE QUALIFIED AND ARTICULATE  TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE ALREADY POSTING  ON THIS FORUM 

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I wonder what my wife would say to eating an Odie sandwich. 

 

My 5yr old son named his new dog Odie after he got the name from Garfield. 

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Odie sandwich aside...shame on you swank!

I have shot & killed one dog in the protection of my son when he was five years old.  I would do it again, in a heartbeat.  Ferrel animals are dangerous and dogs are naturally pack animals.  They will join up and they will attack anything or anyone they feel is weaker.

I am prepping for my own animals as they are true members of my family.  But I can also say from experience that animals that are turned out from their homes will gravitate to where other animals are, wanting to join the pack.  We have taken in strays over the years that have found their way to our yard because of our resident dogs.  Thousands of dollars have been invested in getting these animals back to a healthy existence all because some people can't be responsible enough to take care of them or place them with someone who can.  And as stated above if it comes down to it euthanizing an animal is much kinder than turning them loose in the world to fend for themselves.

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Come on now, have faith in me.  I'm not going to be eating my dog anytime soon.  we've gotten alot of food for him as well.

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This is going to be a big problem. We had a pack of wild dogs a few years ago. They ripped the throat out of one of our goats. CryI stepped out of the door one of the dogs snarled and started toward me. Got back in the house fast. They had no fear whatsoever. I plan on running some electric fence around my yard and garden for that and deer that eat my garden. Got a solar fencer cheap last fall.
 
There is no choice but to kill a dofg if its a hazard Ouch-much as we would hate to. its a matter of saftey
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So where do you think the infamous "dog soldiers" came from?
 
Feral dogs were a big problem in our Navajo nation about 30 years ago where they roamed around in packs and stalked and attacked several children, hitchhikers and "sheepherders," and they killed alot of livestock.  They sent the "proper" authorities to track them down and kill them, humanely as possible, of course.  These were the range and livestock personnel.  So, yes - feralled dogs can become a big problem.  Please, if you feel you may  not be able to feed them in the future - get them fixed and/or turn them in to shelters.
If you want to go a different course and keep your dog, there are actually recipes floating around cyberspace for making dogfood - mostly turn out like biscuits flavored with broth.  I haven't tried it, just looked it over just in case - our Huskie thinks we're his pack, he's become too dependant on us - his special attachment is to a DD and DH "Daddy" is the alpha male.
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Where I hunt there used to be 2 packs of wild dogs and let me tell you they  WILL attack you and try their best to kill you. They decimated the deer population, they attacked my cousin and it was kill or be killed, they attacked my dad and my sister and again it was kill or be killed, they destroyed our camp once trying to get to our food. If you don't want to become a part of the food chain then there can be no hesitation and pray that you only have one to deal with because having to engage multiple targets as they charge you is not like in the movies.
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If it gets to the point that there are feral dogs roaming around, I will not hesitate to take them out if they present even a potential threat.  Those dogs will be feeding on anything they can find which likely means they carry the BF virus.  I suspect even a minor bite from the dog could infect a human being.
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Lots of dogs in our area, (BTW I love dogs and think they truly are mans/womans best friend.  In fact my blood hound may have saved my life/ serious injury on two seperate occasions)  Feral dogs will not be a problem in my area though, too many guns and folks willing to shoot. I have two neighobors that are LEO and I think 90% of the males in my county hunt.  To also put it in simple terms, if a dog is threatening to my children, it won't be around long.
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My neighbor has 6 bulldogs, and they are kind of wild as it is, since he hasn't done much to train them (he is in his seventies and his health isn't too good). I'm almost sure he hasn't prepped at all, or even know much about BF. Makes me wonder how his dogs will start acting when TSHTF.
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 thanks for starting this thread,  will add to the list to finnish fencing in backyard,  to save my 2 dogs, and the garden, this list is getting longer lol, roxy
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Everyone around me has dogs.  I would be worried about this, if we did not also have Coyotes and Mountain Lions.  It's sad to think of, but I don't think they would make it.
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food for the non preppers, as they will eat anything once they get hungry too, and the dogs will come to you looking for food so you don't have to wander around the woods looking for a deer or anything   LOL  LOL
 
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I keep my 2 small dogs indoors, have fenced yard, and enclosed a piece of it so the dogs would not come in contact with bird poop when going outside, I also bought for them all terrain boots up to their thighs for protection, crazy isn't it?  but I love them and I would like for them to be safe and survive this BF.
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Hungry feral dogs will not only attack small dogs They will attack children and sometimes adults.
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Until I was eight years old my family lived in Ft. Smith in the Northwest Territories of Canada.  One of my earliest chilhood memories was of bringing the HGuskies into the house during hard winter nights when wolves would come into town.  The dogs knew the wolves were outside and were determined to get back out there.  I must have been about three, that would make it 1955.  When you're a little kid, things like that make a BIG impression.  Packs of roaming dogs would most certainly become something to consider if BF gets as bad as it might.  
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My dog is a useless cur.  When the mice come she runs away, says woof, and calls me!  But I love the silly thing, and she has her very own stash of pet food.  Beth
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Originally posted by justme justme wrote:

. . . "I LOVE DOGS, especially my dog!!!". . .


So do I. . . Well done. . .with a side of BBQ sauce. . .

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I always said my mutts could feed a family of four for a month!!  Most days they eat better than me!!
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    I have just read that cats can be a major carrier of bird flu. What should we do with them?
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Everything is a "carrier".  Cats are no different than anything else. 
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I was wondering, do you think it would be a good idea to run fence-enclosed paths to and from my out buildings like above ground tunnels?

Just how smart (and desperate) do you think these dogs will be? Do you think that they will eventually play Kujo and break into houses and attack us where we consider ourselves to be safest? Maybe bars or chain-link on the lower floor windows isn't a bad idea, or am I just paranoid?
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This is a rather unlikely scenario. If there are a few dog packs they will be more likely to eat other dogs/cats/rats, etc. than attack people. I don't know that I've ever heard of a feral dog pack attacking anyone. The dog attacks that happen are from dogs that got out of a yard. Feral dogs don't survive long, the ones that do get very scared and avoid humans.

Keep in mind just how important your dogs can be in an emergency. Their hearing and sense of smell are vastly superior to our own. Even if they won't attack anyone, they'll let you know if people or other animals are around long before you could detect them. Maybe help you locate game if things stay bad for a long while. I can't imagine a better tool for survival. In fact, if you don't have one and things get rough, you may want to adopt one off the street if possible.
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Where I live the wild animals are being forced out of their habitats with urban sprawl and growth.  We have coyotes  in the yard all the time.  They do kill cats but my dog is 100 lbs and is an alpha male.  The coyotes do run from him but he will stay on a leash if anything goes down.
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Originally posted by Luna Luna wrote:

This is a rather unlikely scenario. If there are a few dog packs they will be more likely to eat other dogs/cats/rats, etc. than attack people. I don't know that I've ever heard of a feral dog pack attacking anyone. The dog attacks that happen are from dogs that got out of a yard. Feral dogs don't survive long, the ones that do get very scared and avoid humans.

Keep in mind just how important your dogs can be in an emergency. Their hearing and sense of smell are vastly superior to our own. Even if they won't attack anyone, they'll let you know if people or other animals are around long before you could detect them. Maybe help you locate game if things stay bad for a long while. I can't imagine a better tool for survival. In fact, if you don't have one and things get rough, you may want to adopt one off the street if possible.


Oh??

Do me a favor.  Google "feral dog human attack".  There are PLENTY of instances of feral dogs attacking people (not just children, adults too).





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Recently there have been 5 bear sightings in and near Seattle.  Today a black bear was sighted in Bremerton.  This only occurred maybe once a year in the past.  Now 10-12 a year in very populated areas.
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Originally posted by MercutioATC MercutioATC wrote:

Oh??

Do me a favor.  Google "feral dog human attack".  There are PLENTY of instances of feral dogs attacking people (not just children, adults too).

 
Actually, if you do a good search, for documented cases, there doesn’t seem to be any. Don’t rely on heresy or myth or even wiki’s.

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=documented+feral+dog+attack+on+human&btnG=Search

 

The facts are that people need to spend their time and energy planning for real issues, not far fetched scenarios. On top of that, the worst thing that anyone can do, and what will most effect your chance of survival is panic. If people are getting trigger happy and randomly shooting their neighbors dogs or other pets they’ll become a prime target for the neighbor who’s also a bit panicked and trigger happy and now also pi**ed off. The quicker people are to start shooting, the faster that society will fail and chaos will start.

 

The stray dogs that have attacked people aren't the same as feral. They are not hungry, cold, wet and tired and they are not trying to eat people. The fight goes out of dogs pretty fast once they've been abandoned for even a few days or once they don't feel they have a home to protect any longer.

 

Katrina should be a good example. Thousands of abandoned dogs roaming the streets and starving and have you heard of one instance that a human was attacked? All the rescuers out there, as well as looters, etc. no one was attacked by a pack of dogs. I’m sure there were at least a few times during Katrina that dogs and other animals may have eaten dead humans, but even other humans will eat their dead if they are facing their own death. And probably several rescuers got bit while trying to save them, but that’s a far cry from packs of dogs hunting people. Feral dog packs hunting and eating people is very unrealistic. There are a lot more likely scenarios to consider and prepare for.

 

Lastly, chances are that IF ALL of the worst case scenarios happen, there is a possibility that a few dogs will survive and manage to find others. And a small percentage of those packs may actually survive a while and learn to hunt and then get up the nerve to try and grab a child. But given all that you have a better chance of winning the lottery than being eaten by a dog.

 

The PETS forum was started to help people prepare to care for pets during a possible pandemic not frighten each other with wild speculation. I hope we can spend more time on that subject.

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Originally posted by Luna Luna wrote:

 
Actually, if you do a good search, for documented cases, there doesn’t seem to be any. Don’t rely on heresy or myth or even wiki’s.

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=documented+feral+dog+attack+on+human&btnG=Search

 

The facts are that people need to spend their time and energy planning for real issues, not far fetched scenarios. On top of that, the worst thing that anyone can do, and what will most effect your chance of survival is panic. If people are getting trigger happy and randomly shooting their neighbors dogs or other pets they’ll become a prime target for the neighbor who’s also a bit panicked and trigger happy and now also pi**ed off. The quicker people are to start shooting, the faster that society will fail and chaos will start.

 

The stray dogs that have attacked people aren't the same as feral. They are not hungry, cold, wet and tired and they are not trying to eat people. The fight goes out of dogs pretty fast once they've been abandoned for even a few days or once they don't feel they have a home to protect any longer.

 

Katrina should be a good example. Thousands of abandoned dogs roaming the streets and starving and have you heard of one instance that a human was attacked? All the rescuers out there, as well as looters, etc. no one was attacked by a pack of dogs. I’m sure there were at least a few times during Katrina that dogs and other animals may have eaten dead humans, but even other humans will eat their dead if they are facing their own death. And probably several rescuers got bit while trying to save them, but that’s a far cry from packs of dogs hunting people. Feral dog packs hunting and eating people is very unrealistic. There are a lot more likely scenarios to consider and prepare for.

 

Lastly, chances are that IF ALL of the worst case scenarios happen, there is a possibility that a few dogs will survive and manage to find others. And a small percentage of those packs may actually survive a while and learn to hunt and then get up the nerve to try and grab a child. But given all that you have a better chance of winning the lottery than being eaten by a dog.

 

The PETS forum was started to help people prepare to care for pets during a possible pandemic not frighten each other with wild speculation. I hope we can spend more time on that subject.



You didn't Google the words I suggested, did you?  If you had, you'd have noticed this (the 7th entry on the first page):

http://mesh.medill.northwestern.edu/mnschicago/archives/2003/04/when_dogs_attac.html
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First, these were not feral dogs they were pit bulls running loose (strays). Pit bulls are bred to be vicious but in most cases they still aren't mean until the people who own them make them mean. And abused pit bulls, who've recently run away from home are a far cry from abandoned house pets or feral dogs. This is very different as I wrote in my last message.

Here's much more accurate coverage of that story:
http://mesh.medill.northwestern.edu/mnschicago/archives/2003/04/when_dogs_attac.html
 
 
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Luna, get real.

Feral dogs can be a problem, In my twenties I lived in the Four corners area of Colorado, the local ranchers, hated feral dogs  they were a problem. All of these ranchers were dog owners and a lot of them had working dogs. If they saw dogs in packs they just got out the ranch rifle and shot them no questions asked. I myself have seen them hunting everything from deer to cattle. Have I been attacked no, we are not their first choice, but if we were their only choice you would be in a very dangerous situation.Why do you think so many races and cultures are afraid of dogs?

I have two dogs (golden retrievers)  they have plenty of supplies put away. I consider them essential team members in any survival scenario. I  do rely on them now and i will rely on them in the future......but I do not kid myself about feral dogs.

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I live in a rural area where people from the city seem to think its ok to dump their dogs. These dogs turn wild -not in weeks like Katrina but months they pack up and DO attack humans. It happens in my area at least once a year. Fortunatly nobody has been killed yet that I know of. If you think these wild dogs dont attack humans  you better check with some folks in the country.
 
Like I said I had my own run in with feral dogs a few years ago - dont care to repeat it
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One reason you do not often hear of feral dog packs attacking humans is that in a populated area animal control will usually take care of 'em.
 
On the other hand, out in the country those folk practice the Three S's:
 
Shoot
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Shut up
 
Ergo, no news reports... Wink
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I took a walk yesterday and was growled at by a neighborhood dog.  A little gray squirrel ran right up to me, stopped, stared at me, and then walked slowly off. A bird was sitting, and i mean sitting on his rump(?) with his legs out straight, in my driveway. He flew off after a couple of minutes.

then...

this evening, as i was sitting outside at dusk, off in the distance I heard the howling of many coyotes, or dogs...I have to say, it made me tremble.

Has anyone else seen strange behavior in the animals in their area?

Feral dogs? I am really thankful that we have some protection.


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To anybody who says that feral dogs will not be a real problem , that you don't have to worry about them attacking you and that documented cases don't exist all I have to say is I've been there, done that.
 
 As I stated above my cousin WAS attacked by two feral (wild) dogs. He was 13 and deer hunting with his dad here in southern california. It was Oct. 22 1988. He was waiting for his dad to come out of the brush so they could walk back to the jeep when behind him at about 40 yds two dogs came out of the brush (one was a pit bull, one was a german shepard mix). By the time he heard the noise of them running and turned they were within 30 yds and running full tilt at him growling and barking. Thankfully he kept his wits and was able to shoot both of them before they could get to him. He hit the shepard first and it turned and ran into the brush and the pit dropped dead 15 ft from him.
 
 Several years later my dad and sister were in the same area setting up camp and when they were finished they went for a walk. Just out of camp they came across two dogs walking towards them on the same trail in the brush. When the dogs saw them they charged them from a distance of 40 ft. and all my dad had time to do was fire a shot from the hip, hitting nothing but dirt but it scared the dogs enough to break the charge and send them flying back into the brush.
 
 Are these documented cases? Will you find out about them by doing  a google search? Nope. The game wardens were told about it when we came across them out in the field and all they said was to shoot any dog you see out in the hills. No report was made, so therefore no record can be found. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's fine but when you come right down to it all a dog is is a wild animal that was removed from the wild and breed to serve mankind. When mankind is no longer there to feed him he WILL get his food, one way or another.
 
 My opinion? I shoot every single dog I see in the hills that does not belong there and yes, you can tell when you see them if they belong there or not. Have you ever seen a strong deer herd decimated by a non native species (i.e. DOGS)? I have. Rabbits disapear, coyotes disapear, birds that nest on the ground disapear and at night all you hear is the different packs of dogs howling and barking as they chase something through the brush to kill it. You think coyotes and lions will take care ofthe problem? Trust me, they dont.
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Off topic, but -- Wraith, do I know you? ;) Your writing style is very similar to the style I remember from Wraith from S8.

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I just heard on animal planet that 300 people in the USA die evey year from dog attacks.Imagine thousands of dogs not being feed by owners,now we have thousands of wild dogs very hungry.I think I'll buy a few more boxes of shot gun shells.I once was chased by a rabid dog.Maybe a few more boxes of those shells.
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Originally posted by Cygnet Cygnet wrote:

Off topic, but -- Wraith, do I know you? ;) Your writing style is very similar to the style I remember from Wraith from S8.

Leva
 
Very doubtful as I am unfamiliar with what S8 is.
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