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I looked at that SOS Charger. Looks like a nice unit, but my phone is old enough to where it ain't supported. Oh well.

Question on the radio issue: Someone mentioned a 100' mast. I'm assuming that refers to the antenna? Ok, I live real close to an airport. 1.5 to 2 miles from the runway. My house is on the takeoff/approach path.  What are the height regulations concerning maximum mast height? I'd hate to make an investment only to have some 'official' tell me the mast is too high?
 
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Hi,
Not sure if by 'SOS' you mean a brand name (I don't know it) or "emergency". For the Sidewinder hand crank charger that we carry, we have a complete list of phones compatible using one of the included adapters.

Adapters for other cell phones not included in this list are available for $5.00 including shipping. We can email you that list, or you can email us the make and model you have.(see email on site)

As for the question below, height restriction above roofline is probably covered by local ordinance, or maybe county. Any licensed builder would probably know, otherwise contact would be with local, township, or county building office.


Originally posted by FictionWriter FictionWriter wrote:

I looked at that SOS Charger. Looks like a nice unit, but my phone is old enough to where it ain't supported. Oh well.


Question on the radio issue: Someone mentioned a 100' mast. I'm assuming that refers to the antenna? Ok, I live real close to an airport. 1.5 to 2 miles from the runway. My house is on the takeoff/approach path.  What are the height regulations concerning maximum mast height? I'd hate to make an investment only to have some 'official' tell me the mast is too high?

 

Any idea where i can find the info?


    
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SOSCharger is a brand name. Looks pretty much identical to the handcrank sidewinder unit on your page though.
 
Either way, the gist is the same. Your page says compatible with most popular models. Motorola is on that list, but my phone is 6 or 7 yrs old. One of the 1st digital Startacs to come out.
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I read with interest your comments about getting an FCC license and operating modified CBs in the 10 meter band.   I am an extra class amatuer (ham) radio operator (KF0GV).   First, do not buy a CB that has been modified to operate on the 10 meter band.   10 meters is not only considered a ham band, IT IS an amatuer band.   Operating on 10 meters with a modified CB or with an FCC type accepted ham radio without an FCC license is illegal.    The FCC has really been stepping up enforcement lately and the fines can be in the $5,000 to $10,000 range.   So, to everyone out there - Don't do it.   You are not welcome on 10 meters unless you are properly licensed and have the proper equipment.   Having said that, it is not at all difficult to obtain your license to operate on the 10 meter band or on any of the lower HF bands.   10 meters is considered a relatively high frequency HF band and is not very reliable for long distance communication (DX) unless you are near or in the solar maximum of the 11 year cycle.   Right now, we are at the bottom and DX communication on 10 meters is almost non-existant except for some infrequent sporatic E communication which usually is short lived and only United States wide or at most to northern South America.    The FCC just passed a new regulation that eliminates the morse code requirement entirely.   I believe that will go in to effect on or about February 1, 2007.   So, now, you don't even have to learn the code to get your FCC license to operate on the ham bands.   There still are various levels of licenses which I think will be Technician, General and Extra.   Each test covers more detailed and difficult information and therefore requires more study to get to a higher level.   My recommendation is to study for and take the tech. and general class exams and get your license.    Then you will have ample frequency priviledges.   Take your extra class license exam later if you are in the hobby to stay.   If you get your General class license, you will be able to operate on all of the other HF bands including 15, 20, 40, 80 and 160 meters.   20 and 40 provide reliable world wide communication year round and throughout the highs and lows of the 11 year solar cycle.   We welcome new hams and are eager to help.   If anyone has any questions about becoming a Ham Radio Operator, I'd recommend contacting the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) at www.arrl.org and someone can help you there.   Or contact someone in your local area.   The ARRL can refer you to local Ham radio clubs.    Good luck!
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Originally posted by Spoon Spoon wrote:

Hi MM,

Bannor and I just recently set up VHF transceivers (2-meter HAM) on both ends... it works.  We can communicate no matter what happens.  We can also here a lot of what's happening in our area.

If you're interested, I or Bannor can give more detailed instructions.  Each setup ran about $500 (radio, AC power supply, 100' cable, antenna and mount).

You should get a license.  Not that difficult.  We're in the process but wanted to set up the radios first to make sure we could communicate.  For now we just listen... soon we will be able transmit legally.



Tell Bannor we have been working on this for two years. This is a very sophisticated system and I have 5-6 programmers in Silicon Valley working with our "Defense company" on this. The layers of encryption as well as compress for which we have written highly advanced socket code working with programmers from Thailand goes far beyond a simple local broadcasting network. We must be able to communicate with U.K. and Europe.

I first posted concerning INet 3years ago. As with all good ideas, it has made the rounds. The challenge for those of use who have been programmers since 1978 in Silicon Valley, my true home- is in the new technology we are developing.

This information is being released several weeks prior to the manual. There is no way that what we are doing can be developed this fast and compete with our system.

Although submitted to .gov and scheduled for demonstration when we can to DHS - also offered to set up a "write you own project' there are many political considerations.

There are many island groups working on Prep- however even though they interface across states, interfacing with the infrastructure is important. That we are doing currently in an unofficial capacity.

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Originally posted by Trident/Delta Trident/Delta wrote:

Couple quick things - The morse code requirement for hams is no longer in effect. Just a written test on radio theory, electronic principals and station safety.
I am a General class Ham. I still use morse because it is much more reliable than voice. I guess that I have been appointed the un-official-official radio geek.  If you have any questions feel free to ask


I'm a new General class.  Right, no Morse anymore.  I went from non-ham to Ham with a General and four radios in about two months.  2 meter radio in the cellar, CB in the same storm cellar, a hand 2 meter-70cm, and I am getting an HF radio for Christmas. More coming in another post.
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Originally posted by Peteski Peteski wrote:

I read with interest your comments about getting an FCC license and operating modified CBs in the 10 meter band.   I am an extra class amatuer (ham) radio operator (KF0GV).   First, do not buy a CB that has been modified to operate on the 10 meter band.   10 meters is not only considered a ham band, IT IS an amatuer band.   Operating on 10 meters with a modified CB or with an FCC type accepted ham radio without an FCC license is illegal.    The FCC has really been stepping up enforcement lately and the fines can be in the $5,000 to $10,000 range.   So, to everyone out there - Don't do it.   You are not welcome on 10 meters unless you are properly licensed and have the proper equipment.   Having said that, it is not at all difficult to obtain your license to operate on the 10 meter band or on any of the lower HF bands.   10 meters is considered a relatively high frequency HF band and is not very reliable for long distance communication (DX) unless you are near or in the solar maximum of the 11 year cycle.   Right now, we are at the bottom and DX communication on 10 meters is almost non-existant except for some infrequent sporatic E communication which usually is short lived and only United States wide or at most to northern South America.    The FCC just passed a new regulation that eliminates the morse code requirement entirely.   I believe that will go in to effect on or about February 1, 2007.   So, now, you don't even have to learn the code to get your FCC license to operate on the ham bands.   There still are various levels of licenses which I think will be Technician, General and Extra.   Each test covers more detailed and difficult information and therefore requires more study to get to a higher level.   My recommendation is to study for and take the tech. and general class exams and get your license.    Then you will have ample frequency priviledges.   Take your extra class license exam later if you are in the hobby to stay.   If you get your General class license, you will be able to operate on all of the other HF bands including 15, 20, 40, 80 and 160 meters.   20 and 40 provide reliable world wide communication year round and throughout the highs and lows of the 11 year solar cycle.   We welcome new hams and are eager to help.   If anyone has any questions about becoming a Ham Radio Operator, I'd recommend contacting the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) at www.arrl.org and someone can help you there.   Or contact someone in your local area.   The ARRL can refer you to local Ham radio clubs.    Good luck!


Let me echo what this ham said. 

CB is not ham.  I have both and use both, but they are different frequencies, different legal entities, and different cultures.  Someone from CB land who wanders into the ham frequencies will be noticed very quickly.  They might even get "fox hunted" and turned in if the situation doesn't justify it.

FCC enforcement seems to this relatively new ham to be occasional but severe when it does happen.  Study for an exam, get at least your Technician's license.  Even without a background in physics or electrical engineering (like me) you can learn enough from ten hours study and two-three visits with someone already inside the ham community, and you can pass your technician's exam.  This will get you into two-meter and 70 centimeter privileges.  This is 45-50 mile radius reach in most geographies even without hitting a repeater.


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I'll try not to write an epistle, but hopefully write enough to be of help.  Two months ago I became aware that no one in our church had any ham radio capabilities.  If we lost the Internet and/or the grid, we would be out of touch with the world.  I decided to get into ham and buy a CB radio.  With the help of a very experienced "Elmer" I installed those two radios in a concrete storm shelter, powered by a deep cycle 12 volt battery.  My plan is to recharge the battery at least once per month if not sooner.  I have some other preps I do catch-up work on around the first of each month any way.

I frankly under-prepared for my Technician exam.  I passed but without a lot of room to spare.  The passing grade did let me get on the air and begin getting some hands on experience.  There's nothing about the FCC rules that says that a Technician is going to have about a 50 mile radius range, but when you get into what frequencies that license grants you, that is about the way it works out.  So our goal of having someone in the church who can gain information from the world and pass it on locally was not yet met.  I got a General book and began studying for that license; the time was right for me to buy a new HF transceiver and peripherals, so I did.  Those will be under the tree for me this Christmas.  I spent at least 25 hours preparing for the General exam and made an 89. (I'm a former college prof; I'm used to being a student.  I STILL had to study for this one.)

So now we will have someone in our church who can put an ear to the ground to gain information even if most other forms of communication are down.  Both the HF and the two-meter radios are 12 volt battery supplied, so that deals with some grid issues.  We have 6000 watts of solar panels, battery bank, Generac propane powered 11kW generator, and gasoline powered generator, so we think we will have electricity under most circumstances.  It'd be nice if Kim Jon Un would give us a couple of hour's notice before he send an HEMP over this way so we could turn everything off/disconnect everything.  With information gleaned from HF and VHF, we can then use the CB to relay information along to our church and others who may be listening in.

 
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Originally posted by Peteski Peteski wrote:

I read with interest your comments about getting an FCC license and operating modified CBs in the 10 meter band.   I am an extra class amatuer (ham) radio operator (KF0GV).   First, do not buy a CB that has been modified to operate on the 10 meter band.   10 meters is not only considered a ham band, IT IS an amatuer band.   Operating on 10 meters with a modified CB or with an FCC type accepted ham radio without an FCC license is illegal.    The FCC has really been stepping up enforcement lately and the fines can be in the $5,000 to $10,000 range.   So, to everyone out there - Don't do it.   You are not welcome on 10 meters unless you are properly licensed and have the proper equipment.   Having said that, it is not at all difficult to obtain your license to operate on the 10 meter band or on any of the lower HF bands.   10 meters is considered a relatively high frequency HF band and is not very reliable for long distance communication (DX) unless you are near or in the solar maximum of the 11 year cycle.   Right now, we are at the bottom and DX communication on 10 meters is almost non-existant except for some infrequent sporatic E communication which usually is short lived and only United States wide or at most to northern South America.    The FCC just passed a new regulation that eliminates the morse code requirement entirely.   I believe that will go in to effect on or about February 1, 2007.   So, now, you don't even have to learn the code to get your FCC license to operate on the ham bands.   There still are various levels of licenses which I think will be Technician, General and Extra.   Each test covers more detailed and difficult information and therefore requires more study to get to a higher level.   My recommendation is to study for and take the tech. and general class exams and get your license.    Then you will have ample frequency priviledges.   Take your extra class license exam later if you are in the hobby to stay.   If you get your General class license, you will be able to operate on all of the other HF bands including 15, 20, 40, 80 and 160 meters.   20 and 40 provide reliable world wide communication year round and throughout the highs and lows of the 11 year solar cycle.   We welcome new hams and are eager to help.   If anyone has any questions about becoming a Ham Radio Operator, I'd recommend contacting the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) at www.arrl.org and someone can help you there.   Or contact someone in your local area.   The ARRL can refer you to local Ham radio clubs.    Good luck!


I came along several years later.  But yes, this is a very accurate summary.  KW5STW


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Right now the problem is time.  To get on the really long bands requires an FCC license.  While I'm sure the FCC won't be knocking on our doors during an emergency, we'd not only be clueless but also in the way of the real Hams, who have proven, over and over again to be the backbone of communication in a true crisis.  However, it's not too hard to find CBs that have been modified to also transmit and receive in the 10 meter band, these also have builtin amplifiers boosting them from 4 watts CB to up to 200!  Alot of truckers have been doing this.  The 10 meter band has some distance and is also considered a 'Ham' band.  You could communicate with friends, as well as the outside world.  At your leisure, you could take the 35 question test and do the morse for the FCC to get legitmately on the band, but in the meantime, if H5N1 happens, you've got two-way, both CB and low level Ham for about a $500 investment.

Citizens' band is actually 11 meters.  But as an extra-class ham I appreciate both the facts and the tone of your post.  

Morse code is no longer required for any ham license.  The knowledge of electronic principles required to pass the general and extra license exams has gone up.  This is probably to accommodate the new technologies out there.

I got into ham in November of 2017 over a conversation with church friends.  In a congregation of 120, we had no one with ham skills and practically no one with citizens band.  I stepped out there and began studying for ham licenses; I also ended up putting about $2,000 into equipment. Another member who represents a slightly different geographic area bought CD and GMRS equipment.  The plan is for me to monitor or communicate with the longer range equipment and then communicate with him via the CB and GMRS equipment.  


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