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    Posted: July 11 2014 at 9:57pm
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/11/health/smallpox-found-nih-alive/

At least two of the vials employees at the National Institutes of Health found in an unused storage room earlier this month contain viable samples of the deadly smallpox virus, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday.
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(please note: we typically don't consider viruses to be living entities, as they don't self-replicate.  They are more correctly considered as very complex molecular substances that replicate upon infection of host tissue.  If a virus is capable of causing infection, it is called "viable," and not "alive."  Watch out for bad journalism!)

What is going on in our government??  

What next, will they send these samples to Kawaoka to play with??
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Interesting note Doctor. They are like seeds. By the way, good to see you back this evening.

Wow. So this is a big developement! It was big if none were "viable". This means there could be more on our soil, viable, and potentially discoverable by the wrong person(s).

Ironically, my grandfather had some kind of connection to Detrick in 1944 when my mother was born at Army General, Bethesda. From what I've recently learned, he was an MP there.
"And then there were none."
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Originally posted by onefluover onefluover wrote:

Interesting note Doctor. They are like seeds. By the way, good to see you back this evening.

Wow. So this is a big developement! It was big if none were "viable". This means there could be more on our soil, viable, and potentially discoverable by the wrong person(s).

Ironically, my grandfather had some kind of connection to Detrick in 1944 when my mother was born at Army General, Bethesda. From what I've recently learned, he was an MP there.

Thanks!  I try to visit AFT as much as time allows, it is after midnight!!  Love this site & participants! 

Very cool story about your granddad!  The US Army has been dabbling in biowarfare ever since they figured out that giving blankets from TB and smallpox wards to the Native American Indians would save a lot of bullets.  

I'm in a shouting match with the University of Wisconsin over Kawaoka's research, and suggest we write to our federal politicians about it.  Someone should should seal his labs, autoclave his samples and confiscate his notes.  Now. 
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Thank you back, Chuck. I remember about the blankets. My grandpa was of course an Army guy who went wherever they sent him to do whatever they told him to do.

I had a line to Congresswoman Herrera-Buetler but I'm no longer in her Washington district. She was briefly involved in investigating the disappearance of my sister in 1981.

I'd be much abliged myself. I've owned 18 or 20 autoclaves. But seriously, someone with access needs to step in. Guaranteed hero status.
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I still say vaccinate everyone for smallpox!   It is a no brainer that someone will let it out by accident!   This is one of ther reasons I prep...stupid people!
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FluMom, I agree 100%.Johnray1
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FluMom - it's even scarier when you think about it. At least when smallpox was on the loose and people were being vaccinated, there would have been a degree of herd immunity. If it reappeared now it would probably behave as a novel flu virus does and spread even more readily. Taking it out of the environment and allowing our immune systems to forget it by not vaccinating really doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Agree.
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