Gun Up- We Need To After Paris Today!

If you see Paris today it can happen here. Even Liberal CNN says it can happen here sooner than we think!

Need to get my concealed carry and start to carry. Muslims are making the world an unsafe place.

You all better do the same because we are all sitting ducks.

Let's thank Obama now before he let's in 200,000 Syrians. Hope Congress stops him but I bet they CAN'T!

Not all Muslims are terrorists. Of course they aren't. Most people are decent, compassionate, reasonable human beings regardless of their religion. We can't tar all Muslims with the same brush, and to do so will simply result in a persecution society, not unlike that in the 1940's in Germany with the Jews.

My problem is how SILENT these nice Muslims are when this and 911 happened.

I don't see them out saying how wrong this is and how they will help stop people who do this.

I don't see good Muslims turning in any bad Muslims.

I don't see their religious leaders out saying how wrong these killings are and against their religion.

When I see Muslims out protesting killings like this then I will say how many "Good" Muslims there are. Until then they are all No Good!

I agree with Kiwimum and Arirish. I've never been a fan of generalizing everyone as the same, anyway.

Technophobe is by nature a person that sees no harm in anyone and would probably forgive the guy who was likely to punch her in the face in the street for no reason.  I however descend from a very long line of warriors, originating in Normandy, that sowed the seed of civilization in this nation around 1066.  Therefore, I agree with FluMom.  

Though any book could be used to circulate God's word, those books are written down by fallible people.  God is infallible, but humans are not and therefore God is ineffable to us as well.

"Trojan Horse"

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/619447/Paris-terrorist-Syrian-refugee-Greece-government-official

Flumom, perhaps it's your media coverage in America. When two muslims attacked and beheaded a young solider in the UK a few years ago, the local Muslim religious leaders were incredibly vocal condemning their actions. Try watching some UK news online.

I can tell you that here in the U.S. we have no Muslim leaders speaking out against murder by other Muslims. I will never trust Muslims they believe we are infidels that is what their religion teaches them. Those "nice" neighbors believed you were infidels (part of their religion) and most likely did not have much to do with you because of their beliefs.

Christians need to educate themselves on the Muslim religion they are NOT peaceful and they believe Christians are better off dead. Most of them just do not act on the worst part of their beliefs.

One day if they are ever in control they will kill as many Christians as they can. Just Google what they do to Christians in Muslim lands, no one prints much on that subject.

What you said "ghettoization of the migrant classes" maybe the migrants need to go back to their homes. It is not Frances fault nor should they suffer terror attacks because Muslims came to France because they were not happy in their home countries. The French have a right to be angry that Muslims do not want to live in peace but want to kill the French people.

It is the same in the U.S. Mexicans come here Illegally and our government does NOTHING. At least Mexicans do not want to kill us they just want work but of course they are Christians NOT Muslims.

I see a few Muslims speak up from your post but as after 911 nothing comes of the few who do speak up just not enough nor wide spread nor lasting. I still stay better gun up it will be in your area sooner than you think. Better protect your family as best you can.

Woah! KiwiMum.  Holding opposing views is one thing, attacking is another.  FluMum is scared of the terrorists, and with good reason.

Techno, I'm not attacking Flumom, and I can see she's frightened by it all, as indeed are most people, but rabble rousing and condemning an entire religion smacks of persecution and isn't this exactly how persecution of the Jews started? 

In my lifetime I have seen Islam take over: Papua (part of New Guinea), Malaysia, Indonesia, Nigeria, The partitioned states of Pakistan and Bangladesh, ALL the Stans which were part of the USSR, many Indian ocean islands, ALL of sub Saharan Africa and they have made inroads into: Kenya, Uganda, Tanganika.  All the Middle east countries except Israel were already Islamic.  

Techno and Jen thanks for the support. You have to realize like I do that KiwiMum is in a very isolated country and they don't have people such as Muslims or Mexicans coming into their country by the droves.

NZ is only taking in 750 Syrian refugees (see below) and I bet that they will be fully investigated before they are allowed into NZ.

Muslims in NZ: "In the 2006 census 36,072 people identified themselves as Muslim including many New Zealand-born Muslims" By my math that is .008% of the total population compared to 7.5% in France. Big difference.



"New Zealand announced Monday that it will take in 750 Syrian refugees over the next three years, a move that could cost Wellington nearly 50 million New Zealand dollars (about $31 million) additionally. The announcement came after the country’s government initially declined to accommodate refugees over its initial cap.

The government will arrange to host 600 people as part of a "special emergency intake" to deal with the ongoing crisis in Europe and take in 150 more people within the quota. Immigration Minister Michael Woodhouse said, according to the New Zealand Herald, that the additional 600 places will be arranged even if the cap, which is to be reviewed next year, changes. The first 100 refugees will arrive in New Zealand in three groups in January, March and May next year.

"Today's decision is an appropriate response. Official advice is an immediate intake of any more than the extra 100 announced today for this year could put unreasonable strains on services, affecting the quality of resettlement outcomes for all refugees in New Zealand," Woodhouse said, according to Radio New Zealand."




If NZ lets in a terror cell and they multiply KiwiMum's line will change. I am not upset that she is upset because she does not understand. She mentioned the Nazis but the Jews did not kill Germans or anyone else they were innocent of any crimes but they were killed for no reason. Again the "good" people of Germany stayed quiet while Jews were being killed. The Muslims remain silent and by their silence are allowing the killings to happen. Same as the Germans and the Germans are still living that reputation down 70 years later.

I AM NOT saying to kill Muslims I am saying be careful you can't trust any of them we don't know who is friend and foe.

Yes, Jen we are at War!

TMI. No one can handle the truth like I.

Thanks KiwiMum, the world is in a pickle there are so many countries who have welcomed Muslims and now they are having innocent people killed because ISIS wants the world to be an Islamic State.

We are all in trouble the good news for your country there are only 36,000 Muslims in mostly Christian NZ. That is manageable if you have a terror attack the army can round up all those people if needed. But all the other Christian nations have millions of Muslims.

The world is in Big Trouble. Watch the YouTube Original Happy Camper put the link on it is very interesting.

All I can say is that I'm glad I live in the USA and have adequate supplies of firearms for the protection of myself and my family.  

I admit I do not see this as a war against terror.  Whereas I do not see all Muslims as "the enemy" automatically, I do see an Islamic world-domination plot.  Though in fairly early stages it seems to be working.

Undoubtedly this and the last administration wound things up with some seriously bad/stupid moves.  Your government in the US is not the only guilty one there.  Most of the Western world is guilty of that.

That had not specifically been my intention, but perhaps God guided my typing fingers.

 I think a person needs to study a little about the Muslim faith before they defend it or their belivers.

It all started when that dude wrote that book. The next big thing to happen was they discovered oil. Without the oil their book is pretty useless. The book will endure. The oil can be stopped in any of several ways. It would rock the world but the world is heading towards being rocked anyways.

You keep going on about this - so what? Just because the Quran encourages violence towards none Islamic religions it doesn't mean that Muslims necessarily agree with or condone what it says, just as many Christians don't believe or approve of everything written in the Bible. Matthew 5:38 says an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, but I wouldn't hold that to the letter - would you? Of course not. So perhaps Muslims feel the same way about the Quran.

Dear KiwiMum, that is EXACTLY my point.  Yes eye-for-an-eye BUT TEMPERED BY LOVE.  Not eye-for-an-eye DEMANDING OBEDIENCE!