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I agree! We have a wide geographical range, and a great deal of variation in political thought, without any axes to grind! That's why I like our political discourse on AFT. I found this to be compelling information regarding the purported Clinton/Russia angle: However, whenever "Slick Willie" Clinton is involved, anything is possible!! I get a bit tired of all the endless investigations into the Clintons that end up with nothing - Whitewater, Benghazi etc. I don't know what the US Alt Right would do if they were to both suddenly die!! Go after their daughter Chelsea probably. AFT is great, keep up the dialogue! This is all pertinent to our core mission of pandemic planning, as the ongoing political turmoil does nothing good for national or international preparedness.
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agreed Chuck,
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Chinese President Xi Jinping takes absolute control of armed forces in military shake-upBy China correspondent Matthew Carney Updated Thu at 3:07pm The Chinese military — the People's Liberation Army (PLA) — has seen the biggest shake-up in decades at the week-long 19th Party Congress that has wrapped up in Beijing. Most of the top leadership has been replaced with President Xi Jinping's generals. Mr Xi has already started a complete overhaul and modernisation process of the military. He wants a fighting force that can back up his vision of making China a world power by 2050. With more than 2 million troops, China has the world biggest military, but now Mr Xi wants it to be the best. He has set up the deadlines for this to happen. By 2035 he wants it fully modernised and by 2050 to be the top-ranked military. Nearly 90 per cent of the military delegates to the Congress were new faces. On Wednesday, Mr Xi replaced three out of the four top generals of the Central Military Committee. This was the last but most important step in Mr Xi taking absolute control of the armed forces. Professor Willy Lam from the Chinese University of Hong Kong said the purges had been intense in the months leading up to the Congress.
"Generals that Xi Jinping knew when he worked in the provinces of Fujian and Zhejiang from 1985 to 2007. So, these generals that he has trusted have been promoted." Mr Xi's reform process is already well underway. Seven military regions have been re-made into five combat commands. The aim is to modernise to make troops more mobile and war-ready. Political power grows out of barrel of a gunProfessor Lam said Mr Xi has used strident nationalism, like claims over the South and East China seas to build his legitimacy as a strongman.
"Xi Jinping as the leader of the PLA is convinced within 10 to 20 years, China can close the gap with the Russians, and before the middle of this century China can close the defence gap in terms of military and weapon sophistication with the United States." The blue water navy is to be built up as China pushes itself further into the Pacific. China has built its second aircraft carrier and there is more on the way. The navy is set to get a threefold increase in marines in the next several years. It is also extending its military presence further afield, setting up a base in Djibouti on the Horn of Africa. China is already starting to build its own military hardware. It has developed the J-20 stealth fighter and the new generation J-16 strike jet fighter. The PLA has taken delivery of its 1,000th attack helicopter — 20 years ago they only had 100 and they were used for transport. But there is a long way to go and the Chinese military has not been tested in battle since 1979, when they suffered a humiliating counterpunch by a battle-hardened Vietnamese army. Professor Joseph Chen, from City University of Hong Kong, said the military build is part and parcel of China becoming a superpower. "It's natural China will want to have a say, [China] would like to have a measure of control. But this is going to be a long-term process and an expensive process, and it will alarm China's neighbours, so these will be the difficulties facing China," he said. Mr Xi has made it clear he wants to make China great again, and he knows Mao Zedong's famous adage that "political power grows out of barrel of a gun" is an important way to do it. |
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Medclinician ![]() Senior Advisor Group ![]() ![]() Member Since December, 2005 Joined: July 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 22982 |
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Time to lock her up - Hillary Clinton - and all those involved - The Real News
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Medclinician ![]() Senior Advisor Group ![]() ![]() Member Since December, 2005 Joined: July 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 22982 |
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This has nothing at all to do with this thread. Not even close. Medclinician |
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Hillary Clinton Gave 20 Percent of United States' Uranium to Russia in Exchange for Clinton Foundation Donations?Allegations of a "quid pro quo" deal giving Russia ownership of one-fifth of U.S. uranium deposits in exchange for $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation are unsubstantiated.< ="https://imasdk.googleapis.com/js/core/bridge3.182.1_en.#goog_682450531" allowfullscreen="" style="-sizing: inherit; margin: 0px; : relative; top: 0px; left: 0px; max-width: 100%; width: 300px; height: 150px; text-align: center; border-width: 0px; border-style: initial; display: block; opacity: 0; padding: 0px;"> 109k CLAIMSec. of State Hillary Clinton's approval of a deal to transfer control of 20% of U.S. uranium deposits to a Russian company was a quid pro quo exchange for donations to the Clinton Foundation. See Example( s ) RATING![]() ORIGINIn the months leading up to the 2016 United States presidential election, stories abounded about the relationships between the Clinton Foundation and various foreign entities. May 2015 saw the publication of a book called Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich, an exposé of alleged Clinton Foundation corruption written by Peter Schweizer, a former Hoover Institution fellow and editor-at-large at the right-wing media company Breitbart. A chapter in the book suggests that the Clinton family and Russia each may have benefited from a “pay-for-play” scheme while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, involving the transfer of U.S. uranium reserves to the new Russian owners of an international mining operation in exchange for $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation. The mining company, Uranium One, was originally based in South Africa, but merged in 2007 with Canada-based UrAsia Energy. Shareholders there retained a controlling interest until 2010, when Russia’s nuclear agency, Rosatom, completed purchase of a 51% stake. Hillary Clinton played a part in the transaction because it involved the transfer of ownership of a material deemed important to national security — uranium, amounting to one-fifth of U.S. reserves — thus requiring the approval of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), on which the U.S. Secretary of State sits. During the same time frame that the acquisition took place, Schweizer claims in Clinton Cash, the Clinton Foundation accepted contributions from nine individuals associated with Uranium One totaling more than $100 million. Among those who followed him in citing the transaction as an example of alleged Clinton corruption was GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, who said during a June 2016 speech in New York City:
Trump’s campaign repeated the allegation in a September 2016 press release, and again in an October 2016 television ad stating that Clinton “gave American uranium rights to the Russians”:
An image circulating via social media during the final months of the presidential campaign asked the question, “So Hillary, if Russia is such a threat, why did you sell them 20% of our uranium? Are you a liar, or a traitor, or both?” The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S. A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statementby the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
The timing of most of the donations does not match Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer, the company’s chairman:
The timing of Telfer’s donations might be questionable if there was reason to believe that Hillary Clinton was instrumental in the approval of the deal with Russia, but all the evidence points to the contrary — that Clinton did not play a pivotal role, and, in fact, may not have played any role at all. Foundation admits disclosure mistakes
An enormous volume of interest and speculation surrounds the workings of the Clinton Foundation, which is to be expected. Given the enormous sums of money it controls and the fact that it is run by a former U.S. president who is married to a possible future U.S. president, the foundation deserves all the scrutiny it gets, and more. At the same time, for the sake of accuracy it’s crucial to differentiate between partisan accusations and what we actually know about it — however little that may be. Update On 17 October 2017, The Hill reported obtaining evidence that Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official who oversaw the American operations of the Russian nuclear agency Rosatom, was being investigated for corruption by multiple U.S. agencies while the Uranium One deal was up for approval — information that apparently was not shared with U.S. officials involved in approving the transaction. The Hill also reported receiving documents and eyewitness testimony “indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow,” although no specifics about who those Russian nuclear officials were or how the money was allegedly routed to the Clinton Foundation were given. In any case, none of these revelations prove that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton participated in a quid pro quo agreement to accept payment for approval of the Uranium One deal.
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why i posted about China was the Fact you should be looking to what is really happening in the world and not stuck on imaginary bad fairy H.Clinton ,
you are all fixated on a Tweet from a soon to be EX president of the USA , the WHOLE world thinks Trump is a bad idea,its only you blind fools that seem to support him, you all need to wake up ,Climate Change is real ,and its here now ,and if like me you have Grand kids you should be very worried about their future. all the pollitics all the sports, all the weapons , all just BULL...t because the ONLY thing that should on peoples minds is , how is the human race going to survive into the 22nd century, why should i care you may ask ? the same reason that i believe in a health system that cares for all , i am a human being and i do care for others................... as another "Aside" !!! lol ,have you ever read "the art of war"
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i wonder which side republicans or democrates ,first allowed other countries to own mining rights in the in the USA, it would seem that is whats at the bottom of these Clinton /Russian plots ,
we just await to see what Mueller truns up...............
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Joy Reid dismantles GOP Uranium One propaganda in a little under two minutes
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/29/1710809/-Joy-Reid-dismantles-GOP-Uranium-One-propaganda-in-a-little-under-two-minutes this whole "scandal" is literally the definition of FAKE NEWS nice try Donnie ![]() |
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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
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Medclinician ![]() Senior Advisor Group ![]() ![]() Member Since December, 2005 Joined: July 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 22982 |
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There are other threads for the subjects you have mentioned. The focus of this thread and topic is how Hillary and the Clinton Foundation committed crimes and should be prosecuted. A Trump impeachment is the delusional fiction of the Social Justice Warriors nearly a year after Trump was elected. They are in denial. They lost. Even trying to fix the election using the media with false polls, Hillary sent herself a congratulation card she was so sure she would win. She was delusional as was CNN and the New York Times. The whole world does not think Trump is a bad idea, and at least 50% of America voted for him in the election and were behind his policies and campaign. Hillary was directly connected to the sale of uranium and took bribes from the Russians to further their agenda in taking U.S. Uranium. No matter how big a smoke screen or what diversion, it was treason. They begin investigating this today and no matter what shock and awe the Democrats try to wring from a dying horse, Hillary and their foundation should be indicted on racketeering and if not anything else, lying to investigators on numerous occasions. One does need to learn to focus in life. The DNC and Clinton indirectly paid the Russian to manufacture a false report which was given to our top intelligence people which resulted in a probe. Carbon20 - you get so emotional about all this. As Spock might say - a little logic would help. You make vast assumpitons - again - Trump will be impeached and the world hates him. This is not so. Get a grip. Hillary lost but she still endangered our country and their is a lot of proof. And do you have no editing skills rather than to cut and past 128 point fonts which fill my whole big screen monitor? Medclinician |
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This thread is not about Trump, it is about Hillary. Can anyone stay on topic here? Joy Reid lost the election for Hillary Clinton and she still is more than one brick shy of a load. As most Social Justice Warrior she thinks saying something makes it true it doesn't. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/09/19/msnbcs-joy-reid-calls-trump-supporters-deplorables.html She helped alienate millions of voters for Hillary by calling Trump's supporters "deplorables". This another black woman on a mission calling people racists at every turn and trying to boost NBCs rating on the network. I can say anything in 5 minutes. That doesn't mean it's true. I will continue to hedge off all the thread diversions that continue to be completely off topic on this thread. This is about Hillary Clinton's Russian Connections and also the DNC and Obama Administration. They took over $145,000,000 in bribes, and money to the "Pay for Play" for the Clinton Foundation. The formal investigation of the Uranium Sale sent people to prison and was lied about recently when everyone is claiming they did not know "until today" anything about it. It will continue. The rest continues to be a smoke screen and a witch hunt which has turned around. Mueller should be removed from the case since he as involved in a far great example of working with the Russians. You continue to attack anonymously. When my country and my president is attacked I would like to know where that is coming from. It does matter where you are from and free speech is not shooting bullets from the dark - which is what you are doing. Medclinician |
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This thread is about Hilary, not Trump. So,I see your point, Med. But, I see Satori's and Carbon's too.
They see Hilary as a smokescreen to take the heat off of Trump. Though her dealings with Russia were extremely undesirable, they were not illegal. Do you really think that a Republican controlled judiciary would let a guilty Democrat walk free? No chance!
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/30/gregg-jarrett-still-no-evidence-trump-russia-collusion-but-hillary-is-different-matter.html
Over the weekend, the mainstream media was absolutely giddy with delight upon learning there would be an indictment by special counsel, Robert Mueller. This was proof positive, they insisted, that Trump “colluded” with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election. Their exuberance was the equivalent of a two day-long tailgate party. Too bad it was premature. Manafort & Gates The celebration came to a crashing end when the indictments of Paul Manafort and his business associate, Rick Gates, were unsealed Monday morning. It turns out the charges are, basically, a tax fraud case. The two men stand accused of hiding their income from their lobbying work for Ukraine in order to avoid paying taxes, then lying about it. That’s it. The 31-page indictment makes no mention of Trump or Russia or “collusion.” The media seemed as dejected as a kid who wakes up on Christmas morning, only to find there are no presents under the tree. Gee whiz. The truth is, it should have come as no surprise to anyone, much less the media, that Manafort was in legal jeopardy for his business dealings. The FBI raided his home over the summer. It was later learned that the FBI wiretapped his conversations as far back as 2014. And it was widely reported that Manafort had been told by Mueller’s team that he would be criminally charged.
The media became even more dispirited when they read through the indictment, discovering that nearly all of Manafort’s alleged wrongdoing substantially pre-dates his brief stint as chairman of the Trump campaign. In other words, there is no connection to either Trump or his campaign. Somewhere, I’m sure, ABC’s Martha Raddatz and CNN’s Van Jones were crying. Again. Just like the tears they shed on camera election night when Hillary lost. Papadopoulos But wait. Shortly after the indictments were unsealed, the media’s spirits were suddenly boosted when the special counsel revealed that a former adviser to Trump pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with a Russian national during his time on the Trump campaign. Surely this was evidence of illegal “collusion,” right? Wrong. George Papadopoulos pled guilty to a single charge of making a false statement to the FBI. He was not charged with so-called “collusion” because no such crime exists in American statutory law, except in anti-trust matters. It has no application to elections and political campaigns. It is not a crime to talk to a Russian. Not that the media would ever understand that. They have never managed to point to a single statute that makes “colluding” with a foreign government in a political campaign a crime, likely because it does not exist in the criminal codes.
But that did not stop them from accusing Donald Trump, Jr., of illegally conspiring with the Russians when he met with a Russian lawyer to obtain information on Hillary Clinton. What law did he break? None. The Federal Election Commission has made it clear that it is perfectly lawful for foreign nationals to be involved in campaigns, as long as they are not paid and do not donate money. Which brings us to Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton It is against the law for the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee to funnel millions of dollars to a British spy and to Russian sources in order to obtain the infamous and discredited Trump “dossier.” The Federal Election Campaign Act (52 USC 30101) prohibits foreign nationals and governments from giving or receiving money in U.S. campaigns. It also prohibits the filing of false or misleading campaign reports to hide the true purpose of the money (52 USC 30121). This is what Clinton and the DNC appear to have done. Most often the penalty for violating this law is a fine, but in egregious cases, like this one, criminal prosecutions have been sought and convictions obtained. In this sense, it could be said that Hillary Clinton is the one who was conspiring with the Russians by breaking campaign finance laws with impunity. But that’s not all. Damning new evidence appears to show that Clinton used her office as Secretary of State to confer benefits to Russia in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her foundation and cash to her husband. Secret recordings, intercepted emails, financial records, and eyewitness accounts allegedly show that Russian nuclear officials enriched the Clintons at the very time Hillary presided over a governing body which unanimously approved the sale of one-fifth of America’s uranium supply to Russia. If this proves to be a corrupt “pay-to-play” scheme, it would constitute a myriad of crimes, including bribery (18 USC 201-b), mail fraud (18 USC 1341), and wire fraud (18 USC 1343). It might also qualify for racketeering charges (18 USC 1961-1968), if her foundation is determined to have been used as a criminal enterprise. Despite all the incriminating evidence, Clinton has managed to avoid being pursued by a special counsel. Trump, on the other hand, is being chased by Robert Mueller and his team, notwithstanding a dearth of evidence. Robert Mueller The indictments of Manafort and Gates now present a unique opportunity to challenge the authority of the special counsel. Until now, no one had legal “standing” to argue in court that the appointment of Mueller was illegal. The criminal charges change all that. The two defendants will be able to argue before a judge that Mueller’s appointment by Acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein violated the special counsel law. As I pointed out in a column last May, the law (28 CFR 600) grants legal authority to appoint a special counsel to investigate crimes. Only crimes. He has limited jurisdiction. Yet, in his order appointing Mueller as special counsel (Order No. 3915-2017), Rosenstein directed him to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.” It fails to identify any specific crimes, likely because none are applicable. To put it plainly, Mueller is tasked with finding a crime that does not exist in the law. It is a legal impossibility. He is being asked to do something that is manifestly unattainable. If the federal judge agrees, Mueller and his team would be disbanded by judicial order. The Department of Justice would have to seek a new indictment of Manafort and Gates without the special counsel or drop the case entirely. The naming of Robert Mueller was tainted with disqualifying conflicts of interest from the beginning. Fired FBI Director James Comey admitted he leaked presidential memos to the media for the sole purpose of triggering the appointment of a special counsel who just happens to be Comey’s longtime friend, ally and partner. It is no coincidence that Rosenstein appointed Mueller. We now know both men were overseeing the corrupt Uranium One sale which involved Russian bribes, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering. They appear to have kept it secret, even hiding it from Congress which would surely have cancelled the transaction involving a vital national security asset. A cover-up? It has the stench of one. How can Americans have confidence in the outcome of the Trump-Russia matter if the integrity and impartiality of Mueller and Rosenstein has been compromised by their suspected cover-up of the Clinton-Russia case? Both men should resign. And a new special counsel should be appointed – this time to investigate Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump. |
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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
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Carbon - I was reading an article about Xi Jinping using the Communist Party Congress that took place earlier this month to consolidate his power. Seems he's doing that, and a whole lot more.
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Didn't Trump prise Xi recently? It's like watching the mafia patting each other on the back.
"Eh, Louigi! You are such a great a Guy!" "Thank a you Pappa. It is all a for family!" I think I am about to part company with my canolli.
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i NEVER get emotional,about a FOX news item, (never read the rubbish) or politics ,to me its a a big joke , and Chump is the top JOKER....at the moment,
please Note ,Obama will be the next President of the USA , i cant wait to see Chump SACKED.......
Jacksdad, if you have ever read "the Art of War",its very pertanent to the China situation we have developing NOW.....they building "ports" all over in Strategic places , i.e Sri Lanka,Djibouti , building and fortifing Islands...........seems to me they building infrastructure to what means ,who knows..... the World needs a strong USA lead by a STATESMAN................ not a TWIT SALESMAN !!!!! |
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Their ports are almost sovereign territory too, regardless of the country they're in, carbon. Local labor laws don't seem to apply, and they act as their own government. And they make sure to pick spots where an influx of foreign capital and jobs are desperately needed. There's a method to all this, and it doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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Shep Smith commits an act of journalism on uranium 'scandal,' and Fox News viewers are outraged
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/15/1715786/-Shep-Smith-commits-an-act-of-journalism-on-uranium-scandal-and-Fox-News-viewers-are-outraged |
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“The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
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