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RebeccaS, bless your heart for thinking of the cats. Feral cats are in most cases the result of people dumping their unwanted, and usually unneutered, cats. A lot of areas now have volunteer organizations who will trap/spay/neuter "the forgotten felines". Call your shelter (s), they usually know. Call Petco or Petsmart if you have either in your area, they tend to help with the adoption process and will know who to contact. Please, don't give up, these cats are suffering!

That's how I ended up with 13 cats!!! I was a caretaker for a registered colony and then became a foster-mom to the kittens. One year alone we had 41 cats adopted! However, some with chronic illness or personality issued or just simply we love each other too much, well, you get the picture.

Anyway, Zeke and Yody, my alpha-male and his devoted brother, were used to going outside during the day and coming inside at night. After we moved, we decided to make them all into indoor cats, and it worked like a charm. We build them a patio which we completely enclosed and they are content. We can enclose the patio for the winter with the kind of ripple plastic that is commonly used for green-houses, which keeps it dry and retains some heat. They also have access to the laundry-room if it gets too cold. Pets will change their mind! YOU HAVE TO BE ALPHA!! Be consistent and they will submit.

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Between Joe and myself, we have five cats, and three dogs.  All cats come in and go out.  They will not tolerate being kept inside for long.  The mama cat, which is mine, often lives down the street at the "cat lady's" house.  She goes back and forward.  She got injured once and came home to us and was very angry when we kept her inside for two weeks, after first seeing the vet.  Snarled at us, and won't even allow us to pet her..hissed and such.  So, we will have problems.   The mama cat is the only one who roams very far from home...none can have babies anymore.   We are responsible pet owners...  Especially after the mama cat ended up being a female and not a male cat, like I was told when I got "him"...aaaa  "her."  In fact, this is how Joe and I both ended up having more than one cat, each.  Mama cat still bears her original name..Teddy, only now it is spelled Teddie. 

Joe wants to keep the cats inside when BF gets here and I am willing to do the same, but...  We shall see.  If they get out..they are out, period, and not coming back inside.  We have made several alternative plans for ourselves and our pets..  See I also have three dogs.  Two outside and one inside.  We realize that we may have to euthenize some, or all pets, but we are hoping not.  We will do our best to preserve all life, but are willing to do what we must to preserve human lives.  We both love our animals very much and wouldn't want to see anything happen to them, naturally, but our lives are worth more..and that's just the way it is. 

Thanks for listening.  Take care.  Peace. 

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Have people started stockpiling kitty litter? I was thinking today, as I changed my cat's litter tray, just how much of that stuff I go through - where would I store it all, and how much would I need? Probably quite a lot!
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Yes I have 150 lbs, 100lbs in the garage and 50 here in the spare room. They come in 50 lb boxes at Costco.

 

TA, I am going to try the Placement of 7 as you have described for Sully, 7 is a  neat name. 

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Regarding the cat's escaping when you open the front / back door.

I have an indoor cat who follows me everywhere I go.

She is a Devon Rex (more like a dog really)

I confine her to one room when I go out and shut the door.

The cat litter is in there.

When I return there is no problem I just let her out.

I know she is safe and can't get into trouble.

 

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I have 10 bags so far, that is only a 5 week supply for 2 litter boxes, although I could probably make it stretch a bit longer if needed. I plan on getting a few more bags, currently storing in the trunk of an extra car we have, because the cats open the bags if they are in the house.
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Yes the Siamese is more like a dog as well.
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Another cat lover checking in.  At the moment I only have one cat.  He is strictly indoors, he doesn't even want to go out and never runs for the door or anything like that.   So he should be okay.   Hopefully, anyway.

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Yes I have 150 lbs, 100lbs in the garage and 50 here in the spare room. They come in 50 lb boxes at Costco.

 

TA, I am going to try the Placement of 7 as you have described for Sully, 7 is a  neat name. 

LOL, there was a 6 before there was 7, ( cats 4 and 5 had actual "names" - Mew, and Bitster).  A few people have thought it (7) was a bit odd, but everyone likes the name Seven.
 
Sully will figure it out, you just have to be patient.  It reassures them when you pick them up and talk to them for a few minutes before you leave.  It becomes normal for them and they know to expect that they're not getting out and "most importantly" that you are coming back.
 
Seven used to cry whenever I would shut the door to leave, and I mean cry!  But I found that if I take some time with him before I leave that he only meows a few times, if even that now, since I started giving him some extra attention right before I go.  He's always right there by the door waiting me to come back though!  I sometimes wish I had a another cat so 7 wouldn't be so lonely, but it's just not an option unfortunately.  I leave the TV on for him in my bedroom and a radio set to a classical music station for him in the kitchen when I go anywhere.  It's one of things that "Cat Dads" do I guess.
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Originally posted by eae67 eae67 wrote:

Another cat lover checking in.  At the moment I only have one cat.  He is strictly indoors, he doesn't even want to go out and never runs for the door or anything like that.   So he should be okay.   Hopefully, anyway.

Yep, and very handsome young Tom at that, eae67! ( you showed me pics, remember?)
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http://www.fao.org/ag/againfo/subjects/en/health/diseases-cards/avian_cats.html
 
 
At the end of February 2006 highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI), caused by the H5N1 virus was detected in a domestic cat found dead on the northern island of Ruegen, Germany. Since mid-February, over 100 birds have died on this island and tests confirmed H5N1 infection. Also in Asia, cats and other felidae are occasionally found to be infected with H5N1 since the start of the poultry epidemic end 2003. Experimental studies have shown that the domestic cat can become infected with the virus and that cat to cat transmission is possible in principle. Serological studies in several Asian countries suggest that dogs may also contract the H5N1 infection. Countries in Europe have advised owners of pets living near H5N1 wild bird foci to keep cats indoors and dogs on a leash when taken for a walk.
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We have 3 cats and one dog as well as 2 aquariums. Luckily for us, our cats were raised as indoor cats so going outside is a privelege that they only get when it is nice and sunny and we are outside with them. It seems that they just want to nibble on the grass and lay in the sunshine. When the threat of TSHTF looms however, then their days of laying in the sun and eating grass are over. I think they would be quite content as long as they were with us. My dog will have to go outside and so we have prepped for her to wear baby sock/baggie booties.  As much as she doesn't like it she will have to wear them if she wants to go out to go potty. As for the fish tanks, I will probably combine them if TSHTF in order to try and preserve them through the crisis. If not well then I guess we will just have extra water. I know that sounds gross but I will distill or chlorinate any water I have to if we run out of public utility service. If it never amounts to anything that severe, well then I have water for my plants (which LOVE the fish tank water).
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I have one indoor/outdoor cat.  When the first bird flu case is detected in the US he will become indoor only no matter how much he will hate it.
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Thomas, and here I thoight you were a tough guy. You're just really an old softie!
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Regarding what to do with cats should there be a pandemic...Keep them indoors, warm and well fed.  For general information there has been one officially confirmed case of a domestic cat catching H5N1 and dying from it in Germany.  And my understanding is that in the lab it has been demonstrated that the virus can be passed from cat to cat.  In Britain they are recommending all cats be kept indoors, for obvious reasons.  Not to worry too much.  In the long run, in my opinion, humans should have a little more respect.  Smile
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Oh, and I forgot to mention that in the past, ie. several years ago, Bengal tigers and other "big" cats, in certain Asian zoos also contracted H5N1 (apparently from eating infected chickens) and died.  So for some unknown reason felines seem more susceptable.  But I think that must be simply due to their "diet."Smile
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I also have cats.  Two, Starr and Teddi.  Teddi resembles TAs cat quite a bit.  Starr is a long haired-mut cat..gray and a little while on nose and paws.  Beautiful kitty. 
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I also have three dogs, too.  Joey, Austin and Frank. 

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We've been adopted by two nameless cats.  They are well-fed but they do keep birds and rats away from the house.  Their best friend in the world is Psycho, our 95 lb. Rottweiller.   We don't have any stray dogs or cats within a 100 meter radius of our place.
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