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    Posted: August 29 2017 at 4:27am
It is interesting to watch the media squirm as U.S. President Donald Trump scores a a win in his handling of the disaster in Texas and possibly Louisiana.

What can they do? So far he is doing a great job and preparing to fly to Texas, not just over it, and has already mobilized help and is done the best of any president in handling a disaster in decades.

Already Fox and CNN prep to find anything wrong or evil in his dealings, to catch him in a single line in Twitter, to trap him as he arrives in Texas to possibly be a hero.

"He can't handle it - he won't be able to handle it"

https://www.aim.org/on-target-blog/cnn-reporter-questioned-president-trumps-resolve-to-handle-hurricane-harvey/

CNN correspondent Jim Acosta, a constant critic of President Donald Trump, tweeted (i.e. posted on a social media network) about what the Trump administration is going to do to keep Texans safe:



Now is the winter of our discontent...

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/261500.html

Now is the winter of our discontent, made glorious summer by this sun of York was coined by Shakespeare and put into print in Richard III, 1594. The 'sun of York' wasn't of course a comment on Yorkshire weather but on King Richard. In this play Shakespeare presents an account of Richard's character that, until the late 20th century, largely formed the popular opinion of him as a malevolent, deformed schemer. Historians now view that representation as a dramatic plot device - necessary for the villainous role that Shakespeare had allocated him. It isn't consistent with what is now known of Richard III, who in many ways showed himself to be an enlightened and forward-looking monarch. The discovery of Richard's skeleton under a car park in Leicester has provided precise evidence of the extent of his deformity. While being somewhat curved Richard's spinal deformity has now been shown to have been exaggerated and deliberately faked in some portraits.

comment: so amidst their dreams the Democrats stir hoping somehow, someway, in a single line said or an act done by Trump, they can completely invalidate whatever he does in shining where many other presidents have failed.

Funny mouth, funny hair, evil, bad nasty and racist Trump showing love and compassion for Texas, what I consider a mini-nation that could probably exist without the U.S.

Reality check and time for ... The Real News.

Almost every significant win and gain by President Trump, including a soaring stock market, a huge reduction in illegal immigration, a solid support for manufacturing, U.S. industry and a sincere try to force the stubborn Democrats to fix a disastrous Obama care and pass tax relief for Americans - has all been ignored as they desperately argue over how many angels can dance on the head a of pin.

This was a classic debate over nothing of the clergy in Medieval and unenlightened Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F

Having attended a church service Trump ended his oath of office with the significant words -
"So help me God".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=820BKHVjyP0

Despite an ending series of attacks and stalking by the mainstream media - we now see a person with compassion and intelligence moving to help the people in Texas and promising to back them 100% in their struggle which continues.

As I visited my doctor yesterday day after a serious heart attack on August 22, 2017 where I almost died and entered a neutral sex bathroom in the new VA Clinic, I found myself thinking, and thanking God that despite all the social chaos and claims, President Trump is trying his best to beyond the words and hypocrisy of the last administration, to draw upon the strength and commitment to show the world that  America cares about its people and will unite in a tragedy, while the love and decency in Texas for their neighbors, not just friends, shines like beacon to show us how people should act and behave and love each other in a moral and enlightened society.

And so as I left intensive care and returned to post here on AFT - and called Dr. John Ray and asked him - Will the media not stop stalking him?

Not likely.

Walking through a minefield of reporters Trump heads for Texas and I hope his words will be remembered and that God will help him make America great - again - by showing sincere caring and actions far more than words for those whose lives are in danger. My prayers are with you Texas and with our nation as we face some of the greatest challenges to survive in a truly dangerous world.

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Propaganda before people?  That is obviously Trump's agenda.  Gong to church makes him appear Chrisitian.  But it neither makes him one, nor makes him a moral person.

I have no argument with the comments about the local Texans.  They have shown great love and care for their neighbors.
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Sorry to hear about your medical issues, Med. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Those are some seriously rose colored glasses you have on there - you elevated a ruthless businessman with a reputation for refusing to pay his debts practically to sainthood in one post.



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Trump denies CLIMATE CHANGE...............nuff said................
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That is pretty dramatic proof!  There always were climate "bombs" before, the scary bit is the escalation of size and frequency - and the escalation of the escalation.

I wonder how big things will have to be for him to put 2 and 2 together to make 4.
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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Sorry to hear about your medical issues, Med. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Those are some seriously rose colored glasses you have on there - you elevated a ruthless businessman with a reputation for refusing to pay his debts practically to sainthood in one post.





Ty and the real test of all of it will be over time. I still honestly believe in a war or conflict or when you are in a corner, it is the like the hero jumping off a cliff when pursued - and it appears it would be to their death and yet - they make it.

The wild card has changed history many times and won many battles. I just want people to give the guy a chance and do recognize what he is doing to help - versus a media which is bitter and can be so dishonest.

As for the saint part,  many of the greatest religious leaders, Paul for one, were no saints and yet now are. It is what a person does, not what a person has done, that tells us what they really are.
Trump just arrived in Texas. He has organized and even was acting to set things up before the worst of the storm even hit.

Other presidents golfed (Obama) while people drowned. Doing what is right - what is correct  is the highest moral ground.

Expect the best from people. Believe in them and often they will surprise you and even people who have known them all their lives and amazed - for you and because of your faith in them - they will do what is right.

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Now we watch and wait and see - The Real News

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Going there offers no help.
GOING THERE OFFERS NO HELP!
GOING THERE OFFERS NO HELP!!

Do I keep repeating it, or did you hear the first time?

The Presidential entourage gets in the way of help.

This is great for Trump's reputation, but is of NO HELP to the Texans suffering.

Donating some of his vast personal wealth would help.  He can't actually help personally as, being the President, he is a virtual prisoner of the system.  Saying he is going there for humanitarian reasons, does not make the reason humanitarian, or even caring.

This is a publicity stunt.  He can't help, he can only get in the way - AND HE KNOWS IT.

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Trump visited a Texas firehouse where victims were gathered and commented on the turn out. Tell me that's normal behavior for anyone but a full blown narcissist.


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Funny how he had a "Barricade"of 4x4 s protecting him from the survivors....
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Thank you Med for telling the truth in a clearly anti-Trump discussion group. 

I voted for him, believe in him and am grateful for all that he has already accomplished and hope that Congress gets their act together to support Trump's agenda.

Is he perfect?  Nope, but he is definitely better than Clinton or Obama and is actually trying to build up our country instead of tear it down.  Is he a Christian?  I think so... does that automatically make him no longer a sinner?  nope.  We are all sinners even after we're saved. 

Look in history and notice in the Bible how many times God used flawed men to do his will.  He uses them over and over and over again.

I want the MSM to stop telling lies and start just telling the truth.  I don't want to him them push their agendas any longer.  I'm sick of it.

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NC Girl, surprisingly, I agree with most of that.  The "lies" of the mainstream media however are, present, but less than the porkies he tells.  As I keep repeating, The media is constrained by oversight, Trump is only caught out by accident.
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Originally posted by nc_girl nc_girl wrote:

Thank you Med for telling the truth in a clearly anti-Trump discussion group.
I voted for him, believe in him and am grateful for all that he has already accomplished and hope that Congress gets their act together to support Trump's agenda.

Is he perfect?  Nope, but he is definitely better than Clinton or Obama and is actually trying to build up our country instead of tear it down.  Is he a Christian?  I think so... does that automatically make him no longer a sinner?  nope.  We are all sinners even after we're saved.

Look in history and notice in the Bible how many times God used flawed men to do his will.  He uses them over and over and over again.
I want the MSM to stop telling lies and start just telling the truth.  I don't want to him them push their agendas any longer.  I'm sick of it.


Thank you nc_girl. There was an eye-opener today that truly disturbed many anti-Trumpers in San Francisco near where I live in Monterey.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/30/feinstein-stuns-san-francisco-crowd-trump-can-be-good-president.html

U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., stunned a San Francisco audience Tuesday when she said that if President Trump "can learn and change," he could “be a good president.”
The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Feinstein made the comments during a sold-out Herbst Theater interview. She was onstage with Ellen Tauscher, a former Bay Area congresswoman.
The paper described the event as a “political lovefest” — pointing out that Feinstein is wildly popular in San Francisco, where she served as mayor for a decade. She was first elected to the Senate in 1992, after a failed bid for governor of California.
Toward the end of the evening, Feinstein reportedly shocked the crowd when she declined to say that Trump should be impeached and then told the audience that they should be prepared to see Trump complete his four-year term.

Feinstein serves on both the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee, both of which are investigating Russia’s alleged involvement in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
“The question is whether he can learn and change. If so, I believe he can be a good president,” she said.


The report said, “the crowd reacted with stunned silence, broken only with scattered “No’s and a few hisses and some nervous laughter.” The article said that kind of talk is “never heard in Democratic circles.”

comment: I truly approach this on neutral ground and every president we have had is human, has flaws, and skeletons in their political closets. The bottom line in being a president is a learning situation with a learning curve. No one is truly 100% prepared for what they face when intelligence people brief them on how things "really are" versus what the public had been told. Diane Feinstein is on the intelligence committee and most certainly knows the truth about the investigations currently going on and more than the press.

Most of the allegations have been smoke and mirrors and had there been anything solid, the liberals would not be hopping from issue to issue as most attacks fail without any lack of fuel or substance. The stock markets continue to consistently go up. Faith in America and even more so, businesses and a drop in unemployment is a reality.

As Lincoln once said "You can't please all the people all the time. You can please all of the people some of the people some of the time, but if you can't please all of the people all the time."
Or precisely

https://scottdunlop.wordpress.com/2007/09/07/famous-word-of-lincoln-and-lydgate-you-cant-please-all-of-the-people-all-of-the-time/

After a recent experience with a candidate, I was reminded of the famous words from poet John Lydgate, later adapted by President Lincoln – and appearing in various permutations:
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.

There are some good journalists, but we have seen a rather solid and consistent attack on Trump unlike any other president in history. Also if you will look at the numbers for foreign leaders, many of them have and even lower approval rating than Trump. This includes the Prime Minister of the U.K.

The wave of global criticism globally for many leaders is not a sign of a more informed public. It is a sign of people who are overwhelmed with TMM (too much misinformation).

The press is an extremely powerful entity. Most people do not check to see if news stories are accurate and just accept them. They will riot, be violent, and even kill people based on information that is inherently false.

Unfortunately, in America, this applies to many areas of our life where drugs (i.e. medicine) often does not do what it supposed to, groups seeking money blatantly lie as much of it goes to the organization and far less to those they claim to help, and daily news which is more like history rewritten for those who watch it to shock them.

Yes, shock is a value learned in the past in late-night T.V. ads that suddenly got louder and the guy would stand in a clown suit selling used cars. They were irritating. So the media has learned the being basically annoying is the way to get attention - and tearing people up - the forte of National Enquirer and made-up stories about movie stars - gets more readers.

They are no longer reliable or truly credible and we need Real News - from people at the scene - and the whole fabric of Twitter to get around misquotes of what is said or happens.

Trump has scored a win. He did what he said he would do and he was out there trying to help and will go back and try to get congress to help Texas. Whether his wife Melania wore stiletto heels when she got on the plane, she was wearing tennis shoes when her feet stepped down on the Texas runway from Air Force One.

https://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/343330/melania-trump-change-shoes-texas-hurricane-harvey/

Much ado about nothing.

She has been a noteworthy first lady and is loyal and supportive of her husband.

You did a good thing Donald Trump in Texas. Different than two other presidents, especially Bush during Katrina that totally messed up.

The liberals need to learn the concept of being positive and that you create your world by your attitude towards it. If you want a short and unhappy life, you can criticize everything, and ignore facts that prove you wrong.

People have a right to express their opinions and say them without being attacked. Any group that violates that right for others is guilty of the same oppression and fascism they are protesting against.

And now for Louisiana - the ghosts of hurricanes past - Katrina - it isn't over by a long shot.

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When our Conservative (Republican) government came into power, the Chancellor of the Exchequer (money guy) found a note on his desk saying: "Sorry there is no money left."  That was true.  Our previous Labour (Democrat) government had spent it all on social assistance projects - which in fairness had made life peachy for a while.

Poor Theresa May (current PM) is trying to settle our debts, before we sink under them  The subsequent austerity programmes HURT and to some extent she is taking the blame for this (very unfairly I think).

Despite this she is far, far less unpopular than Trump.  Our Foreign Minister (Boris Johnson) is seen as a buffoon, but unlike Trump who is laughed at, he is laughed with.  It is a big distinction.  Despite his tomfoolery, he is understood to be very canny and very much liked.  Even the Chancellor is understood to be doing a necessary thing.  Their policies, though unpopular with Labour supporters (for reasons I will get to) are logical and necessary. Overall we "Get it".

The Labour party in Britain as been taken over by a Stalinist influenced clique, who worship their leader Corbin in the same unreasoning manner that the Chinese cultural revoloutionists worship Mao Tse Tung and as a section of the Trump supporters worship Him.  The problem for Britain is that if Theresa May falls and the Corbinites rise to power, you will have a communist influenced Britain that would no longer be the ally that we have been up until now.  But, instead a nation that counted the left wing European and Asian countries as their allies- HEAVEN FORBID!

Like us, the US is facing some difficult times.  Unlike us, most of the policies Trump wants to instigate do not make the same economic sense.  Our pound is falling because of worries about the colossal, historical changes Brexit will bring; America's dollar is falling over worries about Trump, his inability to pass new legislation, and his lack of understanding of the consequences when he occasionally succeeds.  The tumbling dollar is not all bad news; it helps the export businesses after all.  But, it is evidence that the financial movers, shakers and planners (the smart, the powerful and the educated) are seriously worried about the state of American politico/economic health.  "Follow the money" if you want to find out what id really happening.

The dollar is falling even faster than the pound, by the way and our poor currency has lost nearly a quarter of its worth.
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"To those of you affected by this storm we are praying for you and we are with you every single step of the way. To those Americans who have lost love ones, all of America is grieving with you and our hearts are joined with yours forever. "

President Donald Trump to the victims of the Harvey storm in Texas and Louisiana.

comment: What more compassionate statement with spiritual values could be said to those suffering? When have we ever seen this before for any president - with over 70% of America - Christians?  We need to get back to our moral and basic values and faith we once had in America. More than ever - we need divine intervention to protect and watch over our country.

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Every single one!!  Not that it meant anything really then either.  No politician DARE miss that opportunity.  For goodness sake!!!  Public opinion is their life blood; without it they are just voted out.  
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ALL politicans "pray" and are at least publicly are so called "Christians"
you cannot get elected in this country without pretending to be religious
and when Trump isn't praying he is "grab them by the ------"
or defrauding carpenters,sheet rock guys,electricians etc who put up his buildings made of CHINESE steel

talk is CHEAP
what did Jesus say about praying ???
Matthew 6;6
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

or you can stand on a stage and pray for the world to see
kinda like the Pharisees did ???

sorry but Trump didn't score a "win"
let me break down the situation
he was a politician who went to a disaster scene
said our "thoughts and prayers are with you"  BLAH BLAH BLAH

like EVERY other politician before him
and EVERY politician after him will do
BIG FREAKING DEAL

setting the bar kinda low aren't we ?LOL

and in other news

Trump to revoke Obama order on flood-risk building standards



https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/trump-to-revoke-obama-order-on-flood-risk-building-standards/

gonna save a little money now
and spend a LOT later when those newly built buildings FLOOD

duhhhhhh !!!!

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Harvey is what climate change looks like – Harvey is the third 500-year flood to hit the Houston area in the past three years

http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2017/08/harvey-is-what-climate-change-looks.html


and Trump's response ???

US energy agency asked scientists to scrub references to climate change – “If that's what it takes to keep science going for a couple of years, we will I guess play along”

http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2017/08/us-energy-agency-asked-scientists-to.html


and anybody following what that DIRT BAG Scott Pruitt is doing to GUT the EPA ???


Politics

Trump Picks Scott Pruitt, Climate Change Denialist, to Lead E.P.A.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/us/politics/scott-pruitt-epa-trump.html



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Why Do Trumpers Think Obama Was President During Katrina?


http://crooksandliars.com/2017/08/why-do-trumpers-think-obama-was-president


teh STOOPID

it burns LOL

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Yep, Med; you said: "Other presidents golfed (Obama) while people drowned. Doing what is right - what is correct  is the highest moral ground. "

It was Bush (jnr.) golfing during Katrina,  But that is not the important bit.  He was right - morally.  He could only get in the way by going there, even though it would have been a propaganda win.  Unlike the king of twitter, he put the people first.
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