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Manners maketh man!

Good manners does not mean using the right fork, or knowing the correct way to address a Duke. (The outside one and Your Grace.) It means always putting the feelings of the other person first. To pick up the right fork but make the person next to you ask for the mustard - instead of offering it without being asked- classifies as poor manners.

Believe me, there are few worse things to say about someone. It means they don't care enough to try. It would, however, make him a great leader in wartime: just not right now.
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For someone with right leaning views (I am more liberatarian than Republican)It feels at least culturally speaking... we are at war.   IMO for far too long American politics has been about feelings.   Governments have made decisions that made their populace feel good, but not giving much thought to truly right wise decisions. "Feeling" have been weaponized. While on a personal level he may seem rude he fights for values that are very important to me.   For an example no American President has ever push as hard for religious freedom as Trump. This means a lot to me. Technophobe even though you are right in your accessment...   There is a reason why Trumps biggest support comes from the most unlikely group, religious conservative. These are the nicest people in the world and they love Trump. Its not just religious freedom but all types "values" issues Trump is a great on.   I have never seen a president fight for my values the way he does.

Working in healthcare has changed my definition of what is nice or not. We deal with life or death... so if you are a bit rude in your attempt communicate as directly and clearly as possible... it isn't a problem because everybody understands. Life matters more than politeness.   I have also found usually the "nice" nurses don't tend to be as good at their jobs. They can get stuck in their feelings.   They may try so hard to please the one patient that is complaining that they ignore other patients.   They are often slow to the point that they need help from others and that causes animosity of the staff. Of course compassion is a good thing in healthcare, but it must be tempered and contained.   The hardest thing for me was realizing...   All my co-workers actually care about their job even though t often doesn't seem that way.   They wouldn't be there and doing a good job every day if they didn't. We just all show compassion in different ways.
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BBC News - Trump impeachment: Second whistleblower emerges
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“If the Biden kid broke laws by selling his name to Beijing, that’s a matter for American courts, not communist tyrants running torture camps.”


Mr Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, have been attempting to draw attention to the business dealings of Hunter Biden, the former vice president’s son, by alleging without evidence that he has been involved in corruption.

Geng Shuang, a spokesperson for China’s foreign ministry, described the allegations against the Bidens as “totally groundless” on Monday.

In Ukraine, the country’s top prosecutor Ruslan Ryaboshapka said he was not aware of any evidence of wrongdoing by the Bidens.

However, Mr Ryaboshapka added he is reviewing several cases related to the owner of Burisma, an energy company where Hunter Biden served as a board member.

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Well put, DT! Although that tallies with my belief in good manners. A small amount of rudeness, to spare the person greater hurt, IS good manners.

It all comes down to ettiquette VS manners; they are not the same thing! Ettiquette says use the right fork, speak politely and do not offend.* But offence to prevent a larger hurt is REAL manners and good ettiquette, which can be used to shame another or deliniate class differences can then be the lowest of the low

So, no arguments from me there. I still differ in my opinion of Trump's motives, but accept you may see something there which I miss. Possibly you have a more understanding nature than I do. It could also be that you are so intrinsically honest you can't spot the liar. Either way demonstrates great spiritual integrity, so kudos to you!

Belonging to a long-persecuted group of pagans, as I do, I also 'grock' the joy of religous freedom. So that is another win for the (almost) Omnipotent Orange One.








*This actually sprang from good manners, the right fork makes people eat more daintilly (which is less likely to offend other diners) but is not the same thing, or as important as real caring.
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Will we be going after the Chumps family.....

Kettle... Calling the pot ...black.....

What about the Tax returns......

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The Independent: 'Republicans in Congress believe he is wildly unfit to be president': Trump impeachment would be supported by GOP in secret ballot, House expert says.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-republicans-secret-ballot-congress-biden-ukraine-a9144901.html
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Religious freedom means to me,

If you believe in an imaginary person you can get away with

Murder......
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Carbon how do you take that story?   If there is any mention of unmanned sources or in this case its close second "secret ballot" please don't give much value to them.   Would some republicans rather not have to deal the circus that follows Trump and go back to the good ole days? I am sure you can find more than a handful. Impeachment has been voted on twice in this country... both other times actual crimes were alleged and you got a strict party line vote in the senate.    So with Trump so far we don't have any crime allegation against him.(yet)   So while the Republicans would rather not deal with Trump... there is no way in hell they vote to impeach.

In the Podesta Email dump before the 2016 election high level Democrats talked about accusing their opponents of doing the exact same dirty deeds they are doing to muddy the waters.    In physiology it is called projection.... for the democrats it is politicking.

So I am not at all surprised that there is allegations about Trumps kids. If it happened before office I don't care it is a personal civil or criminal issue that they need to take care of.    If it happened while in office it would bother me greatly.   However Trump knows he is under a microscope so I doubt you find much on him and his family while in office.
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The word forgotten about in that call between heads of state is "CROWDSTRIKE".   Why is this word so important?

Sometime early 2016 the Democratic National Committee suffered a massive data heist.   This is the source of the email dump that I refereed to in the last post it was shared with wikileaks and released right before the election.   
The DNC never let the FBI investigate their servers, instead they turned to a private firm Crowdstrike.   Meanwhile there are stories that the data heist was an inside job.    Even people saying they confessed to doing it.   There was very strange and mysterious deaths and the stories went away.Seth Richards
Crowdstrike declared Russia responsible. However Crowdstrike has been wrong before in a dispute between Russia an Ukraine.   They are also known to be strongly anti-putin.
Now comes a counter intelligence investigation against Trump that leads to somehow the FBI wiretapping Trump and the whole Russia Hoax is born.

Trump has a specal prosecuter and his Inspector general investigating these maters and will have reports soon.   THEN things will go nuclear.

Trump is getting close.   THIS word is why all this chaos is happening over this phone call.    The Bidden Story is just cover.
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Dan Bongino - Obama, Mueller and the Biggest Scam in American History


I know it is a long video and is asking a lot of you... but Bongiono is a great story teller and you will learn a LOT.
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For those not familure with the American political system I want to explain my earlier comment about Trumps government not being faithful to him. The president only appoints the heads of agencies and departments. The vast majority of the people that actually do the work of government work regular jobs with incredibly good job security.

The jobs tend to be highly unionized, and because of geography and demographics of Washington DC you a heavy liberal and left leaning bias within the bureaucracy of Government.

The military tends to be politically conservative, but most of the rest is strongly liberal.

Theoretically Trump could direct his staff to replace whole departments... but it would cause absolute chaos and I doubt even Trump would have the guts to do it.
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