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Posted: January 30 2006 at 5:02am |
AP reporting that the 14 year old Iraqi girl who died earlier this month tested positive after two initial negative tests.
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Iraqi, U.N. health officials confirm Iraqi girl who died
in Kurdistanha bird flu January 30, 2006 4:35 AM SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq (AP) - Iraqi and U.N. health officials said Monday a 15-year-old girl who died this month was a victim of the deadly H5N1 strain of the bird flu virus, the first confirmed case of the disease in the Middle East. Tests were under way to determine if the girl's uncle, who lived in the same house, also died of the virus. He died 10 days later after suffering the same symptoms, officials said. A U.N. official in Egypt, who refused to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue, also said the girl died from the H5N1 strain and that 30 other samples from northern Iraq are being tested. http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/article.jsp? Section=WORLD&ID=564673098864264329 --- > “Thus lack of transparency was extended when a bird flu suspect in >Iraq died. WHO “discounted” the case, but reasons for the discount >were not given.The physician in Iraq indicated the symptoms matched >those of fatal cases in Turkey, and the fatal case had contact with >domestic birds and lived near migratory birds. Now the uncle of the >index case has also died with the same symptoms, suggesting he was >infected by his niece.” ..Dr. Henry Niman --------- > "I guess news of human bird flu in the midst of 160,000 US troops >might have a wee tendency to step on the Bush Administration's "don't >worry, be happy" Iraq message." > http://effectmeasure.blogspot.com/ > Hope this helps to explain things, God help them cause nobody else >will. Rick ---------------------- (AFP via ChannelNewsAsia) "Iraq's Kurdish provinces, which lie on the border with Turkey, are a major poultry producing region supplying chicken and eggs for much of the entire country." "So there you have it. The Fourth Horse of the Apolcalypse is cantering towards a war torn area with a destroyed civil infrastructure, overwhelmed medical facilities and 160,000 foreign occupiers poised to become global vectors." http://effectmeasure.blogspot.com/2006/01/bird-flu-in-iraq-c onfirming-obvious.html[COLOR=YELLOW] Edited by Rick |
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Obviously the uncle died of it too. I posted yesterday that this was a BF family cluster, and not a "pneumonia cluster". You usually don't see clusters of pneumonia cases, unless you're dealing with SARS or BF. Two or more pneumonia cases in one family will cetainly equal BF in most cases - especially in endemic regions . |
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Didn't Joe say that they are allowing this to quietly spread to avoid a panic lol?
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DarlMan
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It is routine for anyone to test negative at the begining. This is two possibilities:
1 - The initial test for BF are almost always incorrect an therefore unreliable. 2 - The officals are using a negative to dispell initial fright over BF in the area and by the time we find out that BF was involved the watter is muddied so to speak so people are not sure who is positive and who is not. I believe it is option 2. It is kind of like a newspaper printing a story on the front page and then a few days latter printing the retraction on page 15. If you took a poll afterward how many people would be aware of the first story and have no clue of the retraction. |
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History shows again and again
How nature points out the folly of men |
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Corn
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The WHO should have declared pandemic level 4 by now.
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Joel Benjamin
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I agree. If there are 30 other samples from Northern Iraq being analyzed then there are 30 other suspected cases? The only conculsion is that human to human transmission is occuring? Am I analyzing this correctly.
On another note, I talked wiht my Doctor who refused to prescribe Tamiflu. She said that I should not be worrying about things over which I have no control. I told her that getting Tamiflu was a control measure. She's under pressure from the government and the medical establishment. When this hits it will be too late to effctively distribute drugs. Does anyone really believe the government will handle this competently? What's the cheapest intenet pharmacy price fro Tamiflu? |
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Sorry,
I don't think Tamiflu is going to work. |
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walkdog
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It is fairly obvious that the pandemic is occuring. This is steadily moving West and yet there's still no concern by the media. I didn't see any television reports on cable or network news over the weekend. This is very unfortunate as most people have no idea what's happening. There are people within my organization at work who have no idea what the bird flu is. They think I am crazy!
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Hey Walkdog, You are correct. "We are in for a bumpy ride". Aplogy to Bette Davis. Stop learning and you will stop living. My wife thinks I'm crazy & she is a nurse. It's a hard concept to warp ones head around. I'm stocking up on Samubcol (only for 40yr+) , in additon to the bottles I have. I lived next door to SARS in Toronto. It was no picnic. My 2-cents. Edited by Rick |
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183165,00.html Tests were under way to determine if the girl's uncle, who lived in the same house, also died of the virus. He died 10 days later after suffering the same symptoms, officials said. ---------------------------------------- Dr. Niman has been saying all along that the disease onset dates are indicative of h2h transfer. Also, note that the uncle lived in the same house. There is no mention that he was in conctact with birds. The implication is that the uncle contracted the disease from the niece. |
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Also interesting http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11097361/ “My daughter did not die from bird flu,” Fatima Abdullah, 50, told The Associated Press. “She did not like chickens nor had anything to do with them. She did not take care of these birds.”
Still b2h huh? Thats quite a germ if it can jump into someone who does not even contact birds. But then, the lady in indonesia died of it and didnt have anything to do with birds either... Edited by justme |
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