Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk |
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Posted: February 10 2006 at 1:32pm |
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If you wonder why people think you're nuts, and you can't get friends and family to prepare, just look at the headline below.
Indiana is Prepared. They're taking all steps they can think of to be ready for a pandemic. Yeah. Right. Indiana prepared in case of bird flu pandemic Governor Daniels announced Friday that the state has developed statewide and county-level emergency plans. Experts say the virus doesn't easily infect people, but there's a fear that it could mutate. Under the emergency plan, health officials say Hoosiers with bird flu symptoms could be quarantined. Said Governor Daniels Friday, “All steps we can think of to take are being taken. And if, perish the thought, we have to implement this plan, life would be very different in Indiana, at least for a while.” Daniels says local officials have already run through training exercises. A bird flu summit is set for March 23rd in Indianapolis. http://www.wndu.com/news/022006/news_47899.phpFrankly, I'm seeing a fair amount of this Happy Talk. Stories about 100% effective vaccines, and quick to manufacture. I guess this is news `balance'. For every scarey story, we need a reassuring one. Just to be fair. |
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This isn't good, My Hubby came home yesterday and I brought up taking out emerg funds, so we'd have cash, You know he told me I'm the only one talking about it, in our circle of friends,family and workplace. This media is fostering this. And my hubby is on my side, allowing us to stock up, sort of. |
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AuntBones
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Maybe the good Governer will buy some ventilators. Indiana has 17,636 beds 1,763 ICU beds 1,763 ventilators. Time to spend some money on supplies! and get crackin on telling people to stock up!!!! In all fairness he does seem to be a decent guy, but open up the purse strings before its to late.... Edited by AuntBones |
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Yesterday, the Lee County (Ft. Myers, Fl) newspaper had an interview with the head of the County Health Department. He warned citizens to begin prepping, urged everyone to have at least 40 days of food and water on hand.
http://tinyurl.com/cso2l Big difference. Florida : It's coming, start prepping Indiana: We got it handled. |
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AuntBones
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Yeppers Medic... it looks more like a press release to me. Also some info in it from a report given to the state from the CDC in 2005.(Experts say.... that is could mutate).Things sure have changed since then... |
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AuntBones
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At least your state is telling it like it is Medic. Could it be your state has seen first hand what can and does happen? Just from the posts in here people in the hurrican belt are more prepaired in general. |
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I do think Floridians are more likely to prepare, because of what we've been thru.
Number 1 house buying hint in florida: Look for a house with lot's of leg room in the closets. <g> |
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Nothing here in AZ, not a word. If it weren't for this site and news outside of the US, I'd be one of the oblivious. The closer it gets, the more news reports will pick up??? I can only hope...
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Arizona Republic on 02/08/06
State health officials release flu pandemic readiness plan Arthur H. Rotstein Associated Press Feb. 8, 2006 12:00 AM TUCSON - Arizona health officials have released a revised flu pandemic readiness plan that calls on families and businesses to prepare and for hospitals to test plans for dealing with overwhelming numbers of patients. The plan released Monday recommends that families stockpile food, water and medications to be self-sufficient at home for a period of time during an emergency, with the ability to communicate with family elsewhere. It also offers a business checklist, such as identifying essential workers needed to keep operating and planning for impacts on employees and customers.
The plan discusses a series of steps to identify pandemic victims and separate them from others. It also covers security, mortuary issues and providing non-hospital care. This revision of a state plan drawn up in 2000 is "a significant advancement forward," state epidemiologist David Engelthaler said. "It includes all the existing plans and systems that have been developed for emergency response and brings them together in how we would use those capabilities during a pandemic." The plan spans a range of actions, from a pre-pandemic alert to systems that are needed for identifying cases in Arizona. A flu pandemic is a worldwide outbreak of influenza from a new virus distinct from past ones and capable of infecting large numbers of people because they lack natural immunity from the new virus. Three influenza pandemics occurred in the past century. The deadliest ever recorded killed about 50 million people worldwide, including about 650,000 in the United States, during 1918-19. Health officials are worried about the potential for such an outbreak to evolve from a virulent bird-flu strain that originated in Southeast Asia. United Nations officials have said a worldwide pandemic is inevitable, but Arizona officials cautioned that they are not saying one would occur this year. The new Arizona plan "follows the federal as well as the World Health Organization model system in terms of how to devise roles and responsibilities as well as when we would put the system in place," Engelthaler said. http://tinyurl.com/dvfj9 The Arizona Pandemic Response Plan is here http://www.azdhs.gov/pandemicflu/ BTW, years ago, I was a paramedic in AZ. Worked out of Scottsdale Memorial Hospital. That was 1975, sure the place has changed a bit since then! |
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Tired
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I live in AZ, and Im glad that someone here in this state is talking
about BF because the local news outlets sure as hell are not!
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Better to be safe than sorry.... |
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halogen601
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If you wonder why people think you're nuts, and you can't get friends and family to prepare, just look at the headline below. I live in Indiana just across the river from Louisville, Kentucky. I'm rather pleased that our governor at least recognizes the potential that the flu pandemic exists. So even if you consider the headline rather outlandish, I believe that Indiana is a small step ahead of other states in admitting that a problem may exist. I wonder if some states, especially those with a higher proportion senior citizens such as Florida, have announced similar plans. Go Hoosiers!!! |
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Spoon
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My father lives in Scottsdale. From what I can tell back east, AZ seems to be ahead of the curve... at least compared to most other states.
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It's not so much the apocalypse... but the credit card bills ;-)
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Halogen, wasn't impuning your governor. Just the editor/reporter that wrote this Happy Talk piece.
Found another article which indicates that the state takes all of this more seriously than the author of the previously cited article. Indiana prepares for possible bird flu pandemicDEANNA MARTINAssociated PressINDIANAPOLIS - Indiana has formed statewide and county-level emergency plans to deal with a possible avian flu pandemic - plans that include worst-case measures such as quarantining people, canceling major public events or limiting treatment, state officials said Friday. Gov. Mitch Daniels said the state needs to be prepared for the worst, while hoping for the best. "All steps that we can think of to take are being taken," Daniels said. "If, perish the thought, we should have to implement this plan, life would be very different in Indiana, at least for a while. It contains steps that most of us have not seen in our lifetimes." The strain of flu called H5N1 is spreading through wild birds and poultry in numerous countries, and has raised fears of a global epidemic if it mutates to become easily spread among humans. People with flu symptoms could be isolated during a pandemic, either in a hospital or at home, depending on the severity of their symptoms, said State Health Commissioner Dr. Judy Monroe. Those who have come in contact with the sick could be quarantined at home until they know they do not have the disease, she said. Daniels said major public events, including sports and other large gatherings, could be canceled during a pandemic to help stop the disease from spreading. If the outbreak got to worst-case scenario levels, Monroe said, the state would have to determine which patients should be treated on hospital ventilators and which should not. She said hospitals in the state are currently considering whether to buy more ventilators. "The standard of care that we know today would be stretched," she said. Eric Dietz, executive director of the Indiana Department of Homeland Security, said emergency management officials would be working to protect heath care and government workers. In a worst-case scenario, he said a third of doctors, nurses and government officials could be sick or unable to do their jobs. "This is an event that needs all of those people in their place of duty," Dietz said. Daniels said local officials have already done training exercises, and the state is planning a March 23 summit to further discuss the plan. Monroe said the most important thing is to stop the disease before it gets out of control. She said people can help stop the spread of disease by washing hands, using tissues and staying home from work or school when sick - the same preventive measures used during seasonal flu outbreaks. |
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AuntBones
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halogen good to see a Hoosier in here ! |
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steve 101
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NZ has a plan. They have told us we will be on our own. Dont expect any help
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Steve 101, I ve been to NZ, beautiful country. Now it seems it also has the honor of telling the people the truth.
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ummm, I work in the media. And my suggestion is to
not shoot the messenger. There are several reasons as to why the media is not making a big deal of the bird flu. 1) most Americans have a very short attention span. If the media goes heavy on a story and then nothing happens in a month, then they are considered "hyping" the issue. They lose credibilty and as a result, noone listens when something really happens. ( ie, SARS, West Nile, Mad Cow) 2) The media gets it's information from sources. if the ind. gov. says it's prepared then that's what they write. That's the truth-The ind. gov. says it's prepared. 3) I know the media will be all over this when it goes sustained h2h. When health care people are confirmed with bf or soldiers or first responders, you will see a barage of coverage. 4) Print newspapers are limited by space, broadcasters by time. With all the news out there right now, finding space and time to cover a "potential" story is diffucult. Also, investigating every little thing every person says to a reporter takes up more resources than most editors that have a circulation of less than 150,000 are willing to allocate. Personally, yes, I would love to see more coverage of BF and less coverage of Brad and Angeline. But, if the newspapers and broadcasters spout nothing but negative news then noone will watch or read, thereby doing the community a disservice. Remember, the media is on your side. We want to tell you the truth. We want to share what we find out. We want to empower you with knowledge. I am just suggesting that in my humble opinion, shooting the messenger isn't the way to go. It's the officials that hand out the message you should be targeting. Tammy |
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Hi Gypsybeach1, "The media is on your side" I remember when I agreed with that statement. I was taking journalism classes at the time. Sincerely, I wish you worked in Fla. We could use a bit more of the fourth estate mind set down here. I really haven't seen proof the media is on my side any more, except on public broadcasting and some other non commercial outlets. Here is why. I believe the news industry plays by a different set of rules than what the general public believes it does. It is no longer the 4th estate of government. It is a high dollar game. (Ok cash has always been important in media "Citizen Kane" proved that ) but now it is the end all and be all and interferes with coverage issues. In the old days, the hard news reporter used the rule of 2's to validate a story before it ran. (2 sources say the same thing) Now that is no longer the cardinal rule. There is now such a thing as news gathering. News gathering is quickly reporting whatever is heard regardless of any real type of substantiation as long as they drop a disclaimer. I call it feeding the monkey, the monkey is the bored story hungry public. To me news gathering is sort of like whispering "fire" in a movie theater and as the panic happens they say, oops well I heard it from sombody so I just repeated it, no harm done. I have had contact with this type of event in my universe of experiences with the press. I am afraid my old cynical mind has come to the conclusion that the news media is all about selling soap first not really wanting to help anymore. It is just another entertainment outlet. Your rationalle for not running stories I agree with whole heartedly. Less than 500 deaths out of 4 billion people is un impressive. Additioally Fla_medic ran a story from a Ft. Myers Fl newspaper about the BF. The story was ok but the interesting thing was the forum posts (which are also used as free opinion polls by most editorial boards in selecting what is fit to print) showed the vast majority don't give a darn about the BF. Sound media practices dictate if they won't read it they won't buy the soap. Nix the BF story. I hope your insight as someone on the inside is correct and it was really refreshing to read your post. I had a pleasant flashback to a simpler time. I just haven't picked it up that the concern exists in earnest. In my universe with the media trust is as rare as tammi flu, I just havent seen it.
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A month ago, people were complaing that media was not paying too much attention to avian flu preparedness. Now the media is reporting more on the subject, but this time people are complaining about the hype in the media. It is difficult to make the public happy I guess. Edited by ps36 |
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Angel
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I
wrote an editorial to our local newspaper about bird flu, preparing,
etc. I later followed-up with the editor and she told me she
wouldn't publish it. Her reasoning....lately there had been
articles about bird flu in their newspaper. She was referring to
an article written by a local college Prof. who has a course about
it. He is not aware of what is going on and teaching his very
interested students that they have nothing to worry about.
Makes me soooooooooooo angry!
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AuntBones
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Gypsy IMHO could the media just try to get public to prep in general? (hurricans,fires,and with spring just around the corner tornados) Think of all the lives they will be saving. They could do a story on how little food is in our countrys food bank, and it is run by HUD! Why will the media not try? Its not to scare folks...just get the facts out, most people will be shocked, a vacine will take two years to even produce (if one is found). Gypsy how will a family of four live ,just say 90 days with the small staples of food that they have in their cupboads today? I thank you for trying Gypsy,but PLEASE dont give up! I pray that I am wrong about this flu...In the words of my Great Grandmother who lived through the 1918 flu" If it happend once it will happen twice "
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Edited by Corn |
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Speculation is the only tool we have with a threat that can circle the globe in 30 days. Test results&news is slow.Factor in human conditions,politics, money&bingo!The truth!Facts come after the fact.
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wow, I wasn't expecting any replies to my post. Big
deep breath and respond... stormriderfla-first of all I mostly agree with you analysis of today's media. Since the small family owned newspapers have been taken over by huge corporate entities and publishers come from the ad department instead of the news department, a lot of news is "for sale". It's a big business. And there is a lot of competition between internet, radio, broadcasting and print media. The bean counters do not dictate stories, however, they do dictate the amount of resources a reporter has to get that story. Slashing budgets have had a huge impact on our industry. And I totally agree that "news-gathering" is wrong. However, again the competition to be first sometimes trumps good journalism. I really enjoyed your post. But, please remember the vast majority of reporters out there want desperately to bring in the story as honestly and objectively as possible. Angel, I am so sorry that you had to endure that. I completely disagree with that editor. If it had been me, I would have published your letter. Aunt bones, as unfortunate as it sounds, tornados, hurricanes and fires are considered an immanent threat whereas bf is still a distant possible threat. And I totally agree, I wish the reporters would pay more attention to the "what could happen" of bf and less to silly little things. I know this must be a very difficult time for families with limited resourse. I am crunching my own budget to prep for this thing. ( they don't pay photographers much) And by the time reporters start doing stories on the limited supplies the gov't has to handle this, it will be too late. Thank you all for your posts on this subject. Rick is right, it's difficult to please everyone when it comes to the media. Just today, a woman complained to me that all we run is bad news. I pointed out all of the recipe, health, sports, kiddie photos that we run. And just remember, if it weren't for the media, most people would not know bird flu even existed. ok. I am off of my soapbox now. sqawk. Tammy |
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Tammy i wish you the best...glad to read you are prepping!
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The Government is going to help the Canadian media learn to properly report on BF.Spin control at its best, Sure they will be offering a few other suggestions along the way. Isn't that what they have editors for? Public Health Agency, provinces hold crash courses on pandemic reporting (English)
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Speculation is the only tool we have with a threat that can circle the globe in 30 days. Test results&news is slow.Factor in human conditions,politics, money&bingo!The truth!Facts come after the fact.
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