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    Posted: October 18 2014 at 12:54pm
Johnray1, you are dealing with a lot with your BL death and your wife's cancer. Take care and hope this all gets better for you soon.

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Good job flumom.  Johnray -- what's the latest?
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You are in my prayers Johnray.

I wish there was more I could say.
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Albert,I guess that what you mean by the latest is what is going on with my wife.
 We are dealing with two different offices.The GYN/Oncologists and the Radiation Oncologist. Each office gives us conflicting appointments.One office will tell us to forget about the last appt. given to us by the other office and then the other office does the same thing.They assured us that the other office will be notified. Both me and my wife are completely confused.
I know that in every major medical center in this country that Oncologists and Radiation Oncologists work together all of the time.The GYN/Oncologists referred us to the Radiation Oncologist and he told me that his office and the Radiation Ongists talked and coordinated with each other every day.I believed him because I know that happens in every medical center across the nation.
Both offices assured me that the office staff of each office,talked on a daily basis. After going through this confusion for a week and a half,I am beginning to thing that these two specialists do not even know each other and that their staffs never talk.I will just have to wait and see what happens Monday. The GYN/Oncologist told me to forget about the appointment that the Radiation Oncologist had given us to start Radiation therapy this coming Tues. He said that his office and the other office would talk and they would call me this coming Monday.
What this means to me is that I will start making phone calls this Monday morning to both offices to try and get a little bit of coordination.
The Radiation Oncologist was very insulting and arrogant to us the last time that we talked to him and my wife does not know it. But he told us that a week or two weeks of missed therapy would make absolutely no difference in Nancy's out come. Nancy did realize that what he had just said was that your wife is going to die anyway.It really pis*** me off,but I could not say anything,because Nancy would have really been hurt.Johnray1
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Praying for you and your wife, Johnray.
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Originally posted by ViQueen24 ViQueen24 wrote:

Praying for you and your wife, Johnray.

Indeed, Jonnray1!   Best wishes and blessings, Chuck
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God bless Johnray1, you guys will be in our prayers.
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He didn't necessarily mean die.  He said the outcome.   Better sooner than later either way though.
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Albert,I agree,but I can not tell one in my family this.Johnray1
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So sorry it all seems to be one thing after another for you right now.  I would have been upset also with how insensitive he was, no matter what it was he meant.  Prayers daily John... Nancy is blessed to have you!
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Originally posted by CRS, DrPH CRS, DrPH wrote:

Originally posted by ViQueen24 ViQueen24 wrote:

Praying for you and your wife, Johnray.


Indeed, Jonnray1!   Best wishes and blessings, Chuck


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You are my brother. I have been where you are at right now. I can tell you that if in your mind that if the outcome is the loss of your wife, please take the time to talk with her about it. She is not ignorant to the fact that she may die. My first wife and I had many conversations about her passing, which she did after 42 years of marriage on her 62 birthday, with me at her side. It is best for both of you to talk between yourselves about this issue as you will not have a chance after she passes. We got through this difficult time with or faith in meeting each other at the resurrection when Jesus comes back to claim his own.

I feel for you at this time and you are in our prayers.
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Thinking of you my friend. . God bless and come back soon.
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JohnRay contact me when and if you can.  I have much more information some of which I will post here- some left to be verified.

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John,  do me a favor, let go of the crap she can't beat it.   She can do it.   Bunch of damn quitters on here.  

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Hope you all do me the damn favor, and if I'm ever on life support and at my final time, never pull the plug on me. Never.  I will fight my way back somehow.   Guaranteed.   When they even try to pull it, tell them to back off and give me time as I'm working on it. 




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WillobyBrat is just the same.  I'm expected to defend his power leads, at gun/knifepoint if necessary.  The bu**ar taught me to fight too.  I get it Boss.
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Ya I knew that one Techno. We're similar.  Just remember behind every great woman is a strong man.  Confused
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Originally posted by Albert Albert wrote:

John,  do me a favor, let go of the crap she can't beat it.   She can do it.   Bunch of damn quitters on here.  

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That was probably a little harsh of me.   Hang in there John.  Don't forgot to yell at those Doc's early tomorrow morning like you mentioned.
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Albert,I will be.Johnray1
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Ok good John.  Some guy on our other forum from Mexico says he has the cure for everything.   If there's anything to it I'll let you know.  A close friend (best friend's wife) is stage 4 lung coming up on 12 months.  She was given 6.  She never smoked or drank. bad luck.  I'm always looking for experimental anything.  
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The amazing love the two of you share is obvious in the lines of these posts and a real inspiration for us  to fight for those we love.  Sometimes the ignorance of the learned profession in the matters of day to day living defies explanation; wonder how that doc behaves around his own family. 
 
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Albert,I did a lot of yelling this morning,but Nancy's treatments start at 0845 in the morning.One of the Dr.s says that he will never talk to me again,but that is O.K.



My brother-in-law dieing. His Dr.s are sure that Agent Orange is what did him in and I probably agree. He had so many health problems and different cancers that slammed him one after another, when he first got sick. He also did 3 and 1/2 tours in Vietnam.Johnray1
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Albert,if you find anything good in Mexico,I would appreciate knowing.Johnray1
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Sorry to hear about the loss of your brother in law Johnray1.

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Johnray,

I want so badly to be able to sugar coat this for you. But that would be lying, and %^#** , I haven't learned how to lie.

So all I can say is: everything you already know.

God love you and keep you strong. Your battle begins when you think you fight it alone.

I don't know you. But I love you anyway.


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Germ Nerdier,thank you.I have always heard and believed that when problems come,they come many at a time.I guess that it is my turn..But  with my wife's Radiation and Chemo starting in the morning, I will handle all of this the same that I have handled everything, and that is one day at a time.
You may have heard the strory about the person walking on the beach with GOD. There was a part of the walk that left only one set of footsteps in the sand instead of two sets and the person asked why GOD  had left him. GOD told him that when he only saw one set of foot prints,that was when GOD had not left him.God told him,that is when I was carrying you.Johnray1
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Originally posted by Johnray1 Johnray1 wrote:

Germ Nerdier,thank you.I have always heard and believed that when problems come,they come many at a time.I guess that it is my turn..But  with my wife's Radiation and Chemo starting in the morning, I will handle all of this the same that I have handled everything, and that is one day at a time.
You may have heard the strory about the person walking on the beach with GOD. There was a part of the walk that left only one set of footsteps in the sand instead of two sets and the person asked why GOD  had left him. GOD told him that when he only saw one set of foot prints,that was when GOD had not left him.God told him,that is when I was carrying you.Johnray1
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Johnray,

I have that on my wall. It was the first prose I ever fell in love with.
So many people wish you well. God willing, they do not know the pain.
I'm going to stop there. You know what I'm talking about.

The only guidance I can give you is from the school of hard knocks, and that of not being given the chance to say goodbye.
The days ahead will be rough. As rough as they will be, look for the momentary treasures to spend with her. Never miss a single opportunity to tell her how much you love her.
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We all know the odds, but just never give up.  Just like on Jen's movie Titanic.  

Very proud of this place and you all.   I've never seen caring and compassion like this on a forum before lol, including even here.   Very promising.

These forums are far stretching across the globe.   I want a cure.   Giving up is not an option, at least not in my world.    I know the reality of it, still will never quit. 
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Satan will do anything to drive us away from our creator. Please consider the story of Job in the Bible. God allowed Satan to work his destruction in that mans life to no avail, as he stayed true to his Lord. My prayer is that you will stay strong and true through this ordeal that you are going through. The story of Lazarus in the Bible tells us that when we go to sleep (die) that the next thing we will see will be Jesus at the resurrections. No more pain or suffering will exist and we will be reunited with our loved ones. That is a promise that we can claim.

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Radiation and chemo are two of the hardest things to go through for both the patient and the immediate caregiver. I am praying for both of you to know God's love and strength through it all.

"Footprints" is one of my favourites. It says it all. Blessings!
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How can you not love foot prints in the sand lol.   You might only have one set of foot prints showing in the sand right now John.  Hang in there. 





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I'm not a Christian.  I love footprints.  (Whatever you percieve God to be, it is still true.)   Nuff Said!
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When my grandmother was 75, she came down with something and was told she only had one or two years left. A few days ago she celebrated her 95th birthday. It does not mean everyone will beat the odds. It means everyone has hope. God Bless you and Nancy always, John.
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Original Happy Camper and all, Nancy had her first full day of Radiation and Chemotherapy. Radiation treatment at one hospital and  then Chemotherapy at another hospital.

It was a long day,but Nancy did great.

Also,none of you need to worry about me losing my faith in GOD. MY faith in GOD is deep in my heart and I can not lose it and I will not lose it.Johnray1
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Originally posted by Johnray1 Johnray1 wrote:

Original Happy Camper and all, Nancy had her first full day of Radiation and Chemotherapy. Radiation treatment at one hospital and  then Chemotherapy at another hospital.

It was a long day,but Nancy did great.

Also,none of you need to worry about me losing my faith in GOD. MY faith in GOD is deep in my heart and I can not lose it and I will not lose it.Johnray1


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ATTA BOY Johnray1

All things work to the Glory of the LORD.

Even if we do not understand them.

Job was questioning why at his time but his story is a great inspiration to those you followed him.
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