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    Posted: May 29 2015 at 11:52am
US | Fri May 29, 2015 1:56pm EDT
Related: U.S., Health, Australia

Live anthrax found in U.S. military shipment to Australia: official

WASHINGTON | By Phil Stewart


An investigation of a U.S. military facility's mistaken shipments of live anthrax bacteria has turned up another live sample, this one from a 2008 batch sent to Australia, a U.S. defense official said on Friday.

The disclosure, if confirmed, suggests the possibility of a broader problem among anthrax samples meant to have been made inactive at the U.S. Army's Dugway Proving Ground in Utah.

Suspected live samples sourced to Dugway have already been traced going to nine U.S. states and a U.S. air base in South Korea over a period from March 2014 to April 2015 before being discovered this month.


The U.S. military says there are no known suspected infections or risks to the general public. Four U.S. civilians have begun taking preventive measures that usually include the anthrax vaccine, antibiotics or both.

Twenty-two people at the base in South Korea were also given precautionary medical measures although none of them has shown signs of exposure.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has begun an investigation.

Little is known about the sample sent to Australia, including the type of laboratory that received it. The U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the sample was tested after the latest disclosure as part of the ongoing investigation into the handling of anthrax samples.

The Pentagon declined comment, saying it was trying to gather facts.

It was unclear how many other samples from Dugway have been tested or what the results of those tests are.

On Thursday, the Army's top general said human error probably was not the cause, saying preliminary information suggested U.S. personnel at Dugway appeared to correctly follow official procedures.

The Pentagon was more cautious on Friday.

"There is an ongoing investigation and we need to let this develop," said Colonel Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/29/us-usa-military-anthrax-idUSKBN0OE1ZM20150529
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Carbon20- America has always tried to share with it's friends! You are welcome!!!!
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I see you love your neighbors to the North too...Share the LOVE...let the sharing begin! lol


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U.S. military lab shipped live anthrax samples to Canada -USA Today


Reuters - 13 hrs ago

Live anthrax samples were shipped to three laboratories in Canada by a U.S. military lab, USA Today reported on Monday, following disclosures last week that samples of the bacteria were mistakenly sent to 11 U.S. states and two other countries.

The newspaper cited two Defense Department officials as saying the samples sent to Canada came from the Dugway Proving Ground in Utah, where the other samples appear to trace back to as well. It is one of the U.S. military labs responsible for inactivation and shipping of biological material.

The Pentagon had no immediate comment on the report.

The U.S. military said on Friday a total of 11 states had received "suspect samples," as did Australia and a U.S. air base in South Korea. It ordered a sweeping review of practices meant to inactivate the potentially deadly bacteria.

It advised all laboratories for now to stop working with any "inactive" samples sent from the Defense Department.

To date, the United States has acknowledged that four U.S. civilians have begun taking preventive measures that usually include the anthrax vaccine, antibiotics or both.

Twenty-two people at the base in South Korea were also given precautionary medical measures, although none had shown signs of exposure. (Reporting by Peter Cooney; Additional reporting by Phil Stewart)
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No Need to thank us! That's not even the best of it!

Inside America's secretive biolabs


Investigation reveals hundreds of accidents, safety violations and near misses put people at risk


Alison Young and Nick Penzenstadler, USA TODAY


Probe identifies over 200 biolabs

From New York city to a valley in Montana

Vials of bioterror bacteria have gone missing. Lab mice infected with deadly viruses have escaped, and wild rodents have been found making nests with research waste. Cattle infected in a university's vaccine experiments were repeatedly sent to slaughter and their meat sold for human consumption. Gear meant to protect lab workers from lethal viruses such as Ebola and bird flu has failed, repeatedly.

A USA TODAY Network investigation reveals that hundreds of lab mistakes, safety violations and near-miss incidents have occurred in biological laboratories coast to coast in recent years, putting scientists, their colleagues and sometimes even the public at risk


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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/28/biolabs-pathogens-location-incidents/26587505/
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Pentagon sends anthrax to itself ?

Anthrax Found in the Pentagon

ht tp://www.thedailybeast.com/article…hrax-went.html

LOLLOLLOL


and these are the guys with their fingers on the button ???

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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

Pentagon sends anthrax to itself ?

Anthrax Found in the Pentagon

ht tp://www.thedailybeast.com/article…hrax-went.html

LOLLOLLOL


and these are the guys with their fingers on the button ???




Ok, now THAT is flippin' scary....heeelllllooo is there anyone home? (in any of these govt' offices)?!?!?!?
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they ain't through yet !!!


Scores of labs may have received live anthrax samples from Army facility

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-83692646/

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 Too many dumb people in the world today we don't have long to live.
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This is why I'm firmly against GOF experiments! Sooner or later someone, somewhere will do something stupid and kill millions.
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Originally posted by arirish arirish wrote:

This is why I'm firmly against GOF experiments! Sooner or later someone, somewhere will do something stupid and kill millions.

Exactly!  That is why I signed the Cambridge Working Group charter when invited by its co-founder, Marc Lipsitch MD. 


I'm a bit baffled why these guys used irradiation to inactivate Anthrax spores, when conventional high-temperature steam autoclave would have been superior.  Irradiation might be faster, but anyone who works in this field knows that it is not nearly as complete for spore destruction as steam under pressure.  


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U.S. Pentagon officials say hundreds of anthrax vials have been shipped out

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/officials-say-anthrax-not-properly-killed-in-army-lab-was-sent-to-dozens-of-locations/article24773614/


"Perhaps over as long as a decade,,,"



ten freaking years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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We had a huge outbreak of anthrax cases among drug users in Scotland between 2009 and 2010. There were 119 recorded cases after heroin appeared to be contaminated with spores from infected bonemeal from Afghanistan. Most were wound infections at injection site.   Staff got pretty used to anthrax positive cultures. Strange thing is that the drug users didn't catch on to the fact they had incubated such an expensive bug.

Perhaps lucky they didn't see the earning potential in their wounds.

The articles above do not say if the samples they shipped were normal anthrax or high weapon grade ( I.e. weaponised anthrax has been genetically altered). Big difference between the 2, natural being slightly less virulent.

The problem does not come so much from the bacteria itself, but from the spores it can form when nutrients become short. If it was sent in nutrient rich media then it is less likely to go in to a vegative state and form spores.

You can read about the Scottish outbreak, most recovered. The anthrax samples were safely dealt with in the hospital labs, no special precautions were needed. The bacteria were never left in a condition where endospores could form.

Not saying the news is good, but it is common practice to share samples of various pathogens between labs in different countries. Those samples can be for a research group that then moves on or dissolves, leaving stuff in deep freeze storage. Of course things are changing now and more tracking is in place.

So in summary how much of this has been sensationalised by media is unknown because the facts are not being reported. Spores or weaponised anthrax is miles different from sending a culture of anthrax.

Just my thoughts

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