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I agree with you both, Arirish and Jacksdad. It's just a bit frustrating at times. One of the people who passed went to Indiana University as a doctoral student in Chemistry, originally from the Netherlands, my friend knew her. So sad. :/
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Yep - at least three or four days before anything coherent and consistent starts to come out, and weeks or months before it starts to make any real sense.
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hachiban08- Welcome to modern journalism! They are in such a hurry to get a scoop on the other networks that they just blather on and report rumors and rumors of rumors, never checking facts, never checking sources! Speculating on "WHO, WHAT, WHY and WHEN" instead of doing real reporting! Most of the talking heads are chosen because they look good on TV and can read from a teleprompter. There is no requirement that they have any intelligence.
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Now they are saying at least 1 American was on the plane. Yesterday,everyone was going on and on about there being 23, then later on in the evening, they claimed they didn't know if any were on the plane.  So which is it? It makes no sense.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-plane-shot-down-missile-1-american-dead-160415599--politics.html
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Economically this plane-crash and the escalating Gaza-war are a disaster. It will lead to higher prices for energy stopping economic growth. 

A lot of wars, from Nigeria, Ukraine to Gaza/Israël are energy-related. Wars are not natural phenomena but organized (crime). 
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AIDS researchers on their way to a conference were on the plane.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696508/Reports-27-Australian-passengers-board-MH17-footage-emerges-Australian-passport-wreckage.html
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Cobber is absolutely right on this! The U.S. needs to stay as far away from this as possible! It's time for the U.E. to step up and take care of their own. This is a choice between Nazis and Commies! The U.S. has no dog in this hunt!
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Or maybe, someone was trying to take out another banker! (just kidding)
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Busted! Kiev’s Video Implicating Russia Posted to Youtube Before Plane Was Shot Down

http://www.activistpost.com/2014/07/busted-kievs-video-implicating-russia.html#!bhfP80


apparently the guys who made the fake sarin gas video to try and draw America into war with Syria

made this one too !
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Members of the WHO on board?
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I don't think World War 2 ever really ended. Therefore, World War 2(b)?
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Don't they say the cold war never truly ended?
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The USA funded the overthrowing of the Ukrainian government by siding with Neo Nazis (literally). They have had to remain at arms length from this event. The whole time having their grubby CIA hands all over it.

Several months ago the US rolled huge number of troops into Poland for "military exercises" This was no random training drill. Its a very controlled troop build up. The US have been champing at the bit to have troops on the ground in the Ukraine ever since the start of this. 

This could spark a superpower war
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I doubt this was an accident or mistake. It just seems too convenient with its ramifications. And it seems odd to me that O didn't know about it pryor to P telling him. Unless if it happened while they were on the phone. And what is Russia doing with the box? Doesn't that belong to Malaysia? And wasn't it found on Ukrainian soil?
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Me thinks something smells a bit foul.

If the USA uses this as an excuse to send in the troops i'll be very suspicious.

False flag???
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Russian agent in Ukraine takes credit for shooting down Malaysian air flight, killing 295

http://americablog.com/2014/07/passe...an-border.html
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How We Got To The Point That A Malaysian Plane Was Shot Down Over Ukraine

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/.../mh17-ukraine/

"And according to a screenshot being passed around Twitter, rebel leader Igor Strelkov — who many suspect to be a member of the GRU, Russia’s external intelligence service — may have taken credit for shooting down the plane, thinking it was Ukrainian. That theory is being backed by several prominent experts on the region, including Strobe Talbott, president of the Brookings Institution, and former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul. “Russian GRU officer Strelkov admitting that he ordered the missile strike against the Malaysian jet,” McFaul tweet out from his account."
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unconfirmed

boy does the propaganda and speculation fly quick


SBU intercepts phone conversations of separatists admitting downing a civilian plane (FULL TRANSCRIPT; VIDEO)

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/separatists-admit-downing-a-civilian-plane-in-tapped-conversation-full-transcript-356545.html
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The planes look fairly similar too, odd. Also the first link didn't work for me. This new link does work though. Thanks for the update!
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false alarm


Reports that Putin flew similar route as MH17, presidential airport says ‘hasn’t overflown Ukraine for long time’

http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/
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Most likely unrelated but:

Per ABC News's Facebook (I'm 24, I live on Facebook sadly) : DEVELOPING: White House placed on lockdown due to an "unattended package;" reporters being told to stay in press area.



I'll read that in just a second, Satori. Thanks for the post. :) Yeah it's a terrible tragedy, Jacksdad :(
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WAS PUTIN’S PLANE THE TARGET?

http://www.theburningplatform.com/20...ne-the-target/
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So sad.
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Updated info:

22 bodies counted at Ukraine plane crash site


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UKRAINE_PLANE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-07-17-12-47-41
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Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border -Ifax



http://news.yahoo.com/malaysian-passenger-plane-crashes-ukraine-151320569.html

MOSCOW, July 17 (Reuters) - A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, Interfax cited an aviation industry source as saying on Thursday.

It said the Boeing plane was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. Reuters could not immediately confirm the Interfax report.




Also shown on Yahoo:

Breaking News:
Ukraine gov't says Buk missile that downed plane fired by separatists

Related: (News10-Sacramento) (FoxLA)
Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister, said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet) when it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher.



Coincidence? There is more live video coverage than written coverage at this moment in time. Also some conflicting reports. Also stated, Russia shot down a cargo plane on Monday.
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