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Med-You are talking about a country where you can be arrested for spreading rumors and beheaded for insulting the monarchy! As "Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques" and "Protector of the Two Holy Cities" the Saudi royal family is responsible for the protection of all pilgrims! They can't admit fault for fear the rest of the Muslim world will raise against them. You can bet as soon as Hajj is over and most of the pilgrims have left they will start reporting cases again! It's a game they play every year! Keep up the good work!
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Originally posted by arirish arirish wrote:

Med-You are talking about a country where you can be arrested for spreading rumors and beheaded for insulting the monarchy! As "Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques" and "Protector of the Two Holy Cities" the Saudi royal family is responsible for the protection of all pilgrims! They can't admit fault for fear the rest of the Muslim world will raise against them. You can bet as soon as Hajj is over and most of the pilgrims have left they will start reporting cases again! It's a game they play every year! Keep up the good work!


Here is some basic non alarmist data.

http://www.who.int/csr/don/27-september-2015-mers-saudi-arabia/en/

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27 September 2015

Between 12 and 18 September 2015, the National IHR Focal Point for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia notified WHO of 13 additional cases of Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) infection, including 1 death.

comment: As in the case of Ebola, which was a much more serious outbreak, if something suddenly is a real problem, we will need to deal with this a a global community no matter who is fighting who, or what religion, or other considerations.  The top people from all countries will have to work on a vaccine as well as research to beat whatever may be the next Pandemic.

So far everything that has been put up has been very conservative. Despite the fact there may be many more cases, the ones posted have been confirmed and show that there is now an outbreak in Riyadh.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2015/09/riyadh-mers-outbreak-shows-no-signs-slowing

Backtracking a bit - Meanwhile, the five new cases in Riyadh are likely linked to a hospital outbreak that has been under way at King Abdulaziz Medical City since at least the middle of July. Four had contact with a confirmed or suspected case, and the exposure is still under review for one of the patients.

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http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2015/09/hajj-winds-down-amid-few-new-saudi-mers-detections

MERS still persists in Saudi Arabia and other countries in the world. As travelers go home it is now a watch and wait situation to see if the disease will spread further.

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http://www.moh.gov.sa/en/CCC/PressReleases/Pages/Statistics-2015-10-13-001.aspx

This is getting much harder to track. It is not in any mainstream media. Must be a #MERS outbreak in a community of expat workers in Riyadh. 4th day in a row a female, 20s, is reported sick http://www.moh.gov.sa/en/CCC

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http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2015/10/riyadh-mers-cluster-grows-ecdc-weighs-jordan-risk

Saudi Arabia reported an asymptomatic MERS-CoV case in Riyadh that might be part of a cluster of infected janitor roommates, while the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) said recent hospital-related cases in Jordan bear watching but pose little risk to Europe.

In other news, a study in human-adapted mice noted extensive organ damage and death from MERS-CoV (Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus).

New Riyadh case

The new case in Riyadh involves a 52-year-old female expatriate who is not a healthcare worker, the Saudi Minister of Health (MOH) said today. The situation is similar to the cases of at least 6 other recent patients in the Saudi capital, at least 4 of whom are among 36 female janitors sharing a three-bedroom apartment east of the city.

The recently diagnosed woman is infected but showing no symptoms, the MOH said. She had contact with another MERS patient, but the agency did not specify the nature of the contact or with whom.

The development raises the country's MERS total to 1,262 cases, including 539 deaths, the agency said. Thirteen patients are still undergoing treatment.

comment: The outbreaks are not over in Saudi Arabia. There will be more as well as clusters. It is appearing that as Ebola, MERS can be said to be cured and then the patient can once more be symptomatic.

There is still a problem in Jordon as well and a recent outbreak there.


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Redirection of data by search engines.  Currently there are multiple sites putting out current dates and pushing them on the net with very old articles. Tracking the number of MERS cases in Saudi Arabia has become even more difficult than when I started this thread. Since the coming of Hajj where there were clusters in several clinics and outbreaks it is very difficult to find even 3 cases much less hundreds.

MERS is very contagious and also very deadly. We are seeing a new era of information control unlike anything in history. The news method is simply to not report  or record, except internally, and although we still have a few main line dataminers who can get in there and still get handfuls of information - the vast reality of how many are infected or how much it is spreading is unknown.

The net has become even more a battleground for the control of information and who is privileged enough to know what is really happening. The mainstream media is totally out of contact or is being heavily controlled.

One can try - and thank you to others on this site who continue to track MERS and glean whatever they can.

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http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2015/11/saudi-arabia-notes-mers-case-upcoming-meeting
November 12, 2015

After going 8 days without a MERS-CoV case, Saudi Arabia officials today reported a new lab-confirmed case in a man who was infected in a Riyadh healthcare setting, as well as plans for an upcoming meeting on a vaccine against the disease.

Saudi Arabia had reported a surge of infections over the past few months, much of it linked to a large hospital outbreak in Riyadh, along similar outbreaks in other citiesThe newest confirmed case involves a 47-year-old male expatriate in Riyadh who contracted MERS-CoV (Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus) in the healthcare setting but is not a health worker, the Saudi Ministry of Health (MOH) said in a statement. He is hospitalized in critical condition.

Riyadh's large hospital outbreak involves 187 infections reported from the city since Jul 21. Some of them were linked to a cluster of young foreign women who shared an apartment and worked as janitors at a university near the city.

The newest confirmed case involves a 47-year-old male expatriate in Riyadh who contracted MERS-CoV (Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus) in the healthcare setting but is not a health worker, the Saudi Ministry of Health (MOH) said in a statement. He is hospitalized in critical condition.

Riyadh's large hospital outbreak involves 187 infections reported from the city since Jul 21. Some of them were linked to a cluster of young foreign women who shared an apartment and worked as janitors at a university near the city.

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