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To all,you want a new subject,I have one. My wife of 43 years has been diagnosis ed with terminal Endometrial Papillary Cancer. She has may be one year to live with out treatment and maybe one to three years with chemo and radiation. But either way,she is going to die. I ask for all of your prayers. Also ,if any one knows of a secret cure for cancer,let me know.I ask and thank all of you for your prayers.Johnray1
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Johnray1, you have our prayers and best wishes.  

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My heart and thoughts are with you and family John. You are a fine man and her a fine woman to have held it together since you were kids. I wish I could have something so wonderful as that. Cherish your fondest memories and leave room for more. I wish I could say something to you that would help her and make you feel better but I'm afraid I can't. I lost my mother when she was 49, my brother at 35, my sister at 18 and my daughter at 36 hours. I know loss and pain but I know not yours. I will say a prayer for your wife Nancy.
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So sorry to hear about your wife Johnray1. I had a sister in law diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer in 1999. she was given less than a year to live. She went through the rounds of chemo and radiation that didn't really do much. She started smoking marihuana on a daily basis and past away in 2014. She might have lived longer, but she started smoking cigarettes again.

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One other thing JR. I was diagnosed open ended terminal 24 years ago. I'm still waiting for symptoms. Now I'm reading its 100% curable. But costs $81,000 for treatment by 81 pills. A few days ago I was sued for $81,000 and lost. (I only owed 18k but refused to pay that ballence due to the fact that I was completely ripped off.) How ironic life can be.
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I am so sorry, John. My wife was diagnosed with uterine cancer about three yeas ago and underwent surgery, and although she's doing well the experience was the most sobering and terrifying we've both had to live through. My heart goes out to you and your wife at what I know must be an incredibly trying time.
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Hi John, sorry to hear about your wife's ill health

For what its worth i copied some info on treatment from Wiki. There is some interesting treatments there.

Bit of advice... Beware of snake oil treatments. There are heaps of quacks out there trying to sell you some bull$hit and they are very convincing. My dad has Parkinsons and he almost went thru with stem cell therapy with a nutter from Mexico. We discovered the fraud on quackwatch.com. Very lucky.

All i can say is don't give up, fight hard and good luck.

Treatment[edit]

The primary treatment is surgical. FIGO-cancer staging is done at the time of surgery which consists of peritoneal cytology, total hysterectomy, bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy, pelvic/para-aortic lymphadenectomy, and omentectomy. The tumor is aggressive and spreads quickly into the myometrium and the lymphatic system. Thus even in presumed early stages, lymphadenectomy and omentectomy should be included in the surgical approach. If the tumor has spread surgery is cytoreductive followed by radiation therapy and/or chemotherapy.[3]

In a study to determine if adjuvant therapy should be used in patients with stage I UPSC who had undergone surgery, no increased survival was seen when radiation therapy was added versus observation, while the postsurgical treatment with chemotherapy may be beneficial but more data are needed.[5] A study of the usefulness of platinum-based chemotherapy as an adjuvant after surgery of stage I patients showed that patients with stage 1A who had no residual disease in the hysterectomy specimen had no recurrence regardless if chemotherapy was used or not, however, patients with stage 1A disease with residual disease in the hysterectomy specimen had no recurrence with platinum-based therapy, but those who had no such chemotherapy showed recurrence in 43%. Similarly, patients with stage 1B disease with chemotherapy had no recurrence, while those without chemotherapy had a high degree (77%) of recurrence.[6]

Trastuzumab[edit]

In a recent study, about 60% of USCs were found to overexpress the protein HER2/neu--the same one that is overexpressed in some breast cancers. The monoclonal antibody trastuzumab (Herceptin) is currently being tested as a therapy for this subset of USCs.[7]

The antibody trastuzumab (Herceptin), which is used to treat breast cancers that overexpress the HER2/neu protein, has been tried with some success in a phase II trial in women with UPSCs that overexpress HER2/neu.[7]

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So sorry to hear this news Johnray1. My family will keep you and Nancy in our prayers. Stay strong and never give up Johnray1.
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You will be in our prayers Johnray. 

Modern medicine is usually the best option in these cases, alternative therapies are usually snake-oil.  However, some supportive treatments are usefull.  I am something of a herbalist in my spare time, not that I have much of that.  I have no miracle cures, but green tea and red clover both slow down the progress of cancers a little bit.  As does a positive mental attitude. 

Never give up.  You never know when medicine will overtake the disease and come up with a better treatment, or even a full cure.  It does happen.  I'm middle aged and have seen many fatal illnesses become routinely cured, that were a death sentence when I was a child.  The difficult trick is to stay alive long enough for medicine to catch up.  So fight all the way.  Use any suppliment that has an effect on slowing down the cancer. 

Gene therapy is looking good but that is a race against time.  You may be aware of proton beam therapy, which I think is in use in America (Britain gets it in 2018), this shows some promise.  Of course you never know what blue-sky research will throw up next.

I do not wish to add to your burdens, but I would like to know how things are going.  I am sure I am not alone in this.  So please keep in touch.
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Johnray, I'm so sorry to hear that!! We never know when our time on earth is going to be up. Anyone of us could be taken yesterday, today or tomorrow. We should try to cherish every minute with our loved ones and friends because we just never know when it may be our last day or their last day. My thoughts, prayers and positive energies are with you and your wife.
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John my friend, this is extremely sad news to hear.  Our hearts go out to you my friend.   I have looked into secret cures myself as I have a couple close friends who are battling the disease, and here is what I've found as possibilities.  This is not medical advice whatsoever and is more of a hail Mary throw - but you can look into these: 

The Chinese are big on a drug (remedy) called "Kanglaite".  I believe the U.S. may be doing trials on it, but you can obtain it online.

I've also heard a lot about "B17", which I believe is crushed apricot pits.  That one could be risky and requires research and may be banned for improper use.

Both could be worth looking in to. It's a stretch, but possible. 

Hang in there my friend and we are all with you 100% all the way.   Feel free to email or contact me anytime.  Our prayers are with you and Nancy - and miracles do happen.

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John, I know what you are going to go through as I took care of my first wife for 7 years before she had a heart transplant and the heart they gave her was damaged internally. She passed a way after 42 years of marriage on her 62 birthday 18 days after the transplant. Put you trust in God and that his will, will be done in yours and your wife's lives. We may not understand why things happen but with our trust in the Lord we know he knows the best for us. He will see you through this trial that has come to your family. Our prayers are with your family.

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Johnray1, lost my husband 2009 to pancreatic cancer.   Cancer is a journey that no one wants to take. He went through chemo that did not work and he decided to stop and enjoy what life he had left. We did that to the best we could in his condition.

Just spend time together, enjoy each other.   Get your house in order. He had only 3 months to live so we did wills, trusts, even picked out his casket since we already had spots in the mausoleum next to our son.    We did this right away because we did not want to do this when he was really sick and not thinking right. We had wills and trusts already but we made sure they were in order my husband made sure I had everything made easy for me after he was gone. This was a great gift that we did this early because this gave us time to enjoy our days together without worry.

Are there any magic cures....I looked on the net for days and days and NO there is no cure. I tell you to let your wife decide what chemo and radiation she wants to do and when she wants to stop support her. I have a friend now dying from Ovarian cancer...she has fought the good fight since 2010 but her body is unable to take anymore and she has decided to stop and let go. My sister has a friend that has been fighting breast cancer, now in her bones for 15 years and she is continuing on still.   Everyone is different and all you can do is love and support their life decisions.

You and your wife will be in my prayers.
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My thoughts and prayers are with you and your wife DrJohn. Please do contact me when you can.
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To All,I appreciate your thoughts and your prayers.We need them.Johnray1
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Johnray1, So very sorry to hear this.  The others have posted very good advice & thoughts.  There is no one size fits all with cancer.  The Cancer Center where your wife might receive treatment could be a wealth of information.  They almost always have a nutritionist on staff.  Along with medical treatment feeding your body the best way will help.  If anything it will help her to tolerate the treatments better.  The Cancer Center should also have clergy on staff.  They will likely visit her while she is in treatment just to touch base & see you the two of you have interest in just talking, counseling and/or prayer together.  Whatever your belief system I highly encourage you to take advantage of this.  They are usually gentle compassionate people who just want to support you.  There is a longing in our hearts for our Creator.  Fall into His arms now & He will carry you through this. 
 
My Mom passed away from breast cancer in 2005 after an 8 year battle, 5 of which it was stage 4.  She had a wonderful attitude about it, her spirits stayed very high.  That's not to say you won't have bad days where all she does is cry & ask why... or angry days or depressed days.  The key is you both are allowed to feel how ever you need to feel that day. 
 
My Mom did more living in those 8 years than she had all the decades before of her cancer free life.  So live life, enjoy everyday, go on trips if that's what she wants, have a huge family reunion, go on a cruise with several close family members or friends.  If that's not your cup of tea then take it slow & quiet if that is more your personalities...
 
No matter what, live & enjoy, but never give up as the others have said.  Never have a defeated attitude.  Be realistic but optimistic.  She is not gone yet... no matter the statistics quoted by the Dr. every patient is different & you do not know what is to come.
 
You & Nancy will definitely be in my prayers!!  Please keep us updated we are here for you and truly care what is happening!  Thank you for reaching out & sharing this with us in the first place.
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I'm so sorry to hear about your wife's illness. Please send her my best wishes for a speedy recovery. 

I'm a big believer in Lugol's solution as a supplement for overall health. It is also known to help with cancers. The other thing that I would recommend is laughter. Cancer is very scary and sobering and a good dose of laughter will do her body and spirit no end of good. Focus on the positive if you can. 

The mantra I use in my life when I need help is a quote from a medieval British saint, St. Julian of Norwich (she was actually a woman despite the name) and she said "All shall be well, and all things shall be well, and in all things, all shall be well". It might sound meaningless, but try saying it outloud to yourself. It really works, and it has really helped me in the past. I wish you both well. 
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Johnray I neglected to mention something else in my post above.  My mother in law was dx with small cell lung cancer in May of 2011.  She did chemo & radiation with prophylactic radiation on her brain because the oncologist explained that small cell likes to reoccur &/or hide in the brain.  She was given the same outlook 2 to 3 years with treatment... as of today Sept. 2014 she is still in remission.
 
The Cancer Center should also have a Social Worker on staff.  The Social Worker at my Mother's cancer center was a life saver for me.  They can help with insurance communications or if you don't have insurance they can help you find help.  They can help with home health aids and equipment.  Plus many more practical every day things that seem overwhelming when you are going through all this. 
 
Educate yourself on the Hospice programs in your area.  People don't like to think about Hospice because it's usually associated with being on your death bed.  But that is not true at all.  My Mother had Hospice for 2 years.  They are Wonderful!  Again the resources they can offer are amazing.
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I am praying for you and Nancy, John! Keep strong.
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Nanook,thank you very much. We both appreciate it. We both know that GOD is her only real chance.Johnray1
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Hi Johnray..So sorry to hear about your wife. My prayers to you both..Dan
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So sorry to hear this Johnray1, my wife and I will also be praying for you both, Danny
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Praying for you both JohnRay. 

My sister died of breast cancer in her early 40s.

She had been diagnosed with stage 3 cancer and knew there were no treatments available so she refused, had surgery to remove the breast and cancer and then went to eating extremely healthy.  It was the 80% raw whole food and 20% cooked foods diet.  The food that does get cooked is cooked at low temps.

She stayed healthy and well for over 3 yrs and when she got very, very, very stressed out (no need to go into details here but let's just say she had a teenage daughter and only child), the it came back and it came back with a vengence.  She was gone within 6 months after a hard fight against it.

I firmly believe that stress is a big part of cancer and healthy eating too and think that if her daughter hadn't done some stuff to stress her out, it wouldn't have come back.

Of course, she told me later that she had been told at the time of her diagnosis that the kind of cancer she had would keep coming back and in shorter and shorter time increments and would be more aggressive each time so I dunno.

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I don't know if this will be any help, Johnray.  But the last post on this thread is possibly helpful.
http://www.ebolainfo.org/zmapp_topic29932_post224626.html#224626
The link he gives is for infectious diseases but apparently some of these cures apply to cancer too.

I followed some of these "leads" on youtube to see where they led.  They may just be "snake oil" again but you never know.

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYd45VXrUH4  Is realy depressing at the start and I would advise skipping the first 20 minutes.  But it lists herbal treatments.  I have not tried cancer treatments, but have been using herbal remidies for years for other things and the results can be dramatic!  The thing with herbal remidies is that they cannot undergo the safety testing of manmade drugs, because this is too expensive if you cannot then go on to patient the result to make money.

Liposomal vitamin C seems to have some followers http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTXSTGGRvKY and there is instructions to make it on http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYRIjhReC8o   If this is rubbish, at least it is fairly safe.  Overdosing on vitamin C only causes diarrhoea.  Whilst on chemo' one would probably not even notice.

There is a big following for baking soda as a treatment.  http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnEQFno794s   Personally I don't have a lot of faith here.  I do not claim to have much data to base this opinion on, so it is just that, an opinion.  Assuming it does work it does so by removing candida albicans from the body.  This is more easily done by using Lufenuron which is marketed as a flea treatment for dogs and cats.  It destroys the chitinous covering of said fleas biochemically.  In doing so it also destroys the cell walls of candida.  If one has a very big systemic candida infection by lowering the imune system chemotherapy would make this worse.  I do not know that candida promotes cancer, but the idea was proposed by an oncologist.  If it is that simple, then of course  fluconazole would do the trick too  (this is available as a fish antibiotic).

I can't make any of these decisions on your behalf, but if it were me I would be using conventional treatments and use some of these alternative treatments as a supportive treatment for the mainstream stuff.  Green tea, red clover and the apricot kernels that Albert suggested all work as a gentle form of chemotherapy so would make a good supportive list to the medical profession's approach.  I've just looked up Kangalite http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/cancers-in-general/cancer-questions/what-is-kanglaite and that seems to be another one on the supportive list. - He's a smart cookie our Albert.  The idea of shark cartilage may have some assistance to offer here too.  It suppresses angiogenesis which cancers must have to continue to grow tumors over a certain size.

Cannabis is the very best treatment for the nausea which comes from chemo'.  There are snake-oil salesmen who are claiming it treats/cures cancer.  I personally have no faith in this, but it will make chemo' much more bearable.  I believe it is legal over the border in California for medical uses.

I will go on looking.
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The idea behind this is sound (if a little odd).  http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGsp5b8VlI0
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My prayers are with both you and your wife. A cancer diagnosis is always frightening.

I might suggest you look into Essiac. It has been around for many, many years. It is all natural and doesn't seem to contain anything that can harm.

I have a very dear friend who is now using this method. She chose to not use any conventional treatments. She has been using this for the past five months. Honestly, I haven't heard one way or another if things are better or worse from a medical testing point. She seems to feel a little stronger and is taking each day as it comes.

I have also read that removing all refined sugars from the diet helps to "starve" the cancer cells. There is a great deal of information on this as well.

The biggest thing to remember is to make sure whatever you do or try will do no harm.

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Technophobe and ParanoidMom, Thanks for the suggestions,but I have been a practicing Family Practioner since 1987. During that time I also got into alternative medicine in a big way.I have found a lot of good and helpful things in alternative medicine that I integrated into my practice. I also found many.many so called "Cancer Cures". I have never recommended one of these cures,but I have seen many people try some them. I have never seen even one that worked.Johnray1 
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Let me add my voice to all the expressions of support and prayer. If I might, I'd like to recommend a book that helped the son of a friend of mine that had lymphoma, Remarkable Recovery, by Caryl Hirschberg with Marc Ian Barash. I don't remember specific suggestions in the book, but the young man told me later (he's alive and well and 30 now) that there were parts of the book that just helped him be more upbeat and positive when he was discouraged or sick and miserable from chemo. Attitude is everything, and it might help in lighten her load. Sending positive thoughts down from Da Burgh to my neighbor in WV and your good wife. God bless yinz!
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I'm sorry if our responses here have upset you in any way. Your original post seemed to suggest you were looking for ideas. I personally never meant to give the impression what I mentioned was a "cure." My prayers are still with you both.
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I am so sorry to hear about your wife. The only suggestion I might add here is to have her quit eating sugar completely.

My cousin had cancer on his lung and brain and has survived for longer than 5 years. I didn't think this was possible so there is always hope.

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Johnray1 please give us updates when you feel ready. Your wife is in my daily prayers so I think about her. I know how hard it is so share when ready.
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Hi Johnray

I am so sorry to hear about Nancy - my thoughts and prayers are with you, her and all your family & friends.

I had a SAR dog who was my 'partner' for years - not just in the Search & Rescue work, but in life. She was diagnosed with a terminal cancer and I did what you are doing - starting looking for cures. The type of cancer she had was inoperable and dogs live 3-9 mos with 6 being about average. She lived 16+ mos and I believe would have been longer (poss even healed) except that as she got 'better' I had blood work done, the vet said she was now 'free of it' so I stopped the Ganoderma mushrooms and within a week it was back with a vengeance, causing seizures etc... I never should have trusted the blood work, never should have stopped the program I had her on, I should have just kept on with treatment - till I felt she was 'well' vs what blood work said - I believe either blood work was blotched (maybe samples switched at lab) or that vet read them wrong/interpreted totally incorrectly. I've kicked my own butt many times for this - not following my gut.

Anyway - for her the Ganoderma mushrooms really seemed to work - here are some links

http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/10-health-benefits-of-ganoderma-lucidum.html

This one has short video:
http://www.ganoderma-for-health.com/ganoderma-lucidum.html

This is a resourse page for all kinds of studies done on it:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=ganoderma%20lucidum%20cancer

I know it (any herb) has different effective rates on different types of cancer, I'm not well voiced in this - esp in humans, but I know if I got diagnosed I would try the ganoderma after seeing how well it worked on Angel.

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Johnray1 I am soooo sorry to hear this news. Your family is in my thoughts and prayers!
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Penham,thank you.We need your prayers.Johnray1
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newbie1,Where can I order some of this Ganoderma Mushroom?Johnray1
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newbie1,I have just ordered one bottle of "Ganoderma Mushroom Spores" and one bottle of "Imperial Blend".Thank you for the suggestion and information.Johnray1
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Too All, have any of you ever heard of the healing power of "Black walnut Tincture". I have used it very successfully in all kinds of unexplained bowel problems and health problems,but I have never used it to fight CA.
I have many patients who now make their own and they swear that it will cure anything. I will not go that far,but I know that it has helped to bring health to many people that the medical world had given up on.Johnray1
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Here is a little info John.  It seems a little promising. I have a close friend battling stage 4 lung and another with stage 3 stomach.  I'm going to send the info their way about black walnut.  I believe you can buy it over the counter at health food stores.  Anything is worth a shot. 



Black Walnut

Other common name(s): black walnut hulls, English walnut, butternut, oilnut

Scientific/medical name(s): Juglans nigra

Description

The black walnut is a hardwood tree that grows widely in the United States, Canada, and parts of Europe. It can reach a height of more than 100 feet. The nut hulls, inner bark, leaves, and nut (also called the fruit) are used in herbal remedies.

Overview

Available scientific evidence does not support claims that that hulls from black walnuts remove parasites from the intestinal tract or that they are effective in treating cancer or any other disease. Early evidence from laboratory research suggests that juglone, a compound in black walnut, may have the potential to reduce cancer risk. However, studies in humans have not been done.

How is it promoted for use?

A small number of herbal medicine practitioners claim that cancer is caused by a parasite. Some of these practitioners claim that a tincture made from black walnut hulls, wormwood, and cloves will kill the cancer-causing parasites, preventing or curing the disease without causing significant side effects. Black walnut is claimed to effectively kill more than 100 types of parasites.

Black walnut is also promoted as a natural remedy for such wide-ranging conditions as acne, thyroid disease, colitis, eczema, hemorrhoids, ringworm, sore throats, tonsillitis, skin irritations, and wounds. Supporters claim black walnut hulls can be used as a mild laxative that eases general digestive problems. Because some people claim that it kills parasites in the stomach and intestines, they recommend black walnut for those who travel to areas with contaminated water supplies.

What does it involve?

One part of the black walnut tree used as a remedy is the hull of the fruit (the outside of the nut), which is harvested when it is green. Black walnut hull is available in tablets, capsules, and tinctures. However, some claim that only a tincture, a preparation in which the substance is mixed with alcohol, is effective. Some companies include powdered bark from the tree along with the hulls in their black walnut supplements.

The leaves of the black walnut tree are sometimes used to make tea or placed directly on affected skin to treat ringworm or other skin conditions. Black walnut leaves are available in capsules and tea bags. The inner bark can be used to make infusions, and is sometimes ground with the hulls.

What is the history behind it?

Ancient Greeks and Romans called black walnut fruit the "imperial nut" and reportedly used the hull to treat intestinal ailments. Black walnut has also played a part in Russian folk medicine since the seventeenth century. Throughout history, every part of the tree has been used in folk medicine to treat dozens of conditions, including the bite of a mad dog. According to traditional Chinese medicine, eating black walnuts builds physical strength. In Texas folk medicine, black walnut extract is considered an effective treatment for scorpion bites.

Today, craftspeople and artists prize the tree's fine-grained wood for making furniture and carvings, and the nuts are a safe and very popular food for people without nut allergies. Walnuts have been noted to contain omega-3 fatty acids as well as antioxidants such as folate and vitamin E.

What is the evidence?

Available scientific evidence does not support claims that black walnut hulls, bark, or leaves can cure or prevent any disease, including cancer. The notion that parasites cause cancer or that they can be killed with herbal remedies is also unsupported by the available scientific evidence.

Of interest, small studies in the lab have suggested that a compound called juglone, which is present in black walnut, may have some antitumor activity. However, studies have not been completed to find out if juglone can help prevent cancer in humans.

In addition, some studies in humans have suggested that eating walnuts (the nut itself, not the hull, leaves, or bark) can lower “bad” cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. Most of these studies were done on the English walnut, a close relative of the black walnut. The study findings may not pertain to black walnuts.

Are there any possible problems or complications?

This product is sold as a dietary supplement in the United States. Unlike companies that produce drugs (which must be tested before being sold), the companies that make supplements are not required to prove to the Food and Drug Administration that their supplements are safe or effective, as long as they don't claim the supplements can prevent, treat, or cure any specific disease.
Some such products may not contain the amount of the herb or substance that is on the label, and some may include other substances (contaminants). Actual amounts per dose may vary between brands or even between different batches of the same brand. In 2007, the FDA wrote new rules to improve the quality of manufacturing for dietary supplements and the proper listing of supplement ingredients. But these rules do not address the safety of the ingredients or their effects on health.
Most such supplements have not been tested to find out if they interact with medicines, foods, or other herbs and supplements. Even though some reports of interactions and harmful effects may be published, full studies of interactions and effects are not often available. Because of these limitations, any information on ill effects and interactions below should be considered incomplete.

In horses, black walnut wood or extract is known to cause a serious inflammatory disease called equine laminitis, which involves a buildup of white blood cells in the hooves, resulting in pain and lameness.

Because of the lack of research, little is known about the potential side effects of black walnut hulls or leaves in humans. However, allergy to tree nuts is common, and severe allergic reactions to walnuts have taken place. People who are allergic to other nuts, especially pecans, may also react to walnuts or walnut products. Note that black walnut is included as part of certain dietary supplements, so check ingredient lists carefully if you have allergies.

Relying on this type of treatment alone and avoiding or delaying conventional medical care for cancer may have serious health consequences.

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/herbsvitaminsandminerals/black-walnut

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Albert, you can buy Black Walnut Tincture at some health food stores and Vitamin stores or order it from several places on the internet,but I have always found it very expensive.
I make my own and my patients do to. I will tell you how I make mine. First I go to Walmart and buy 5 "Sun Tea" jars. The kind of jars that you fill with water and put some tea bags in them and set them out in the sun and make tea. The reason I use the "Sun Tea" jars is that they have spout on the bottom of them and it makes draining the Walnut Tincture into smaller containers very easy.
Then you have to get the walnut while the hull is still green and before the hull starts to turn brown. There are just a few days in the fall that you can gather the Walnuts. When they are at their best with anti-parasitic chemicals. I always find a few Walnut trees in the summer that have Walnuts on them. All Walnut trees do not have Walnuts on them every year. Then I wait until about this time of years and I check the walnut trees everyday. When the Walnuts start to drop from the trees on their own,I start picking up Walnuts that day. If I need to I will knock a few green Walnuts off the tree to get as many as I need. I actually shoot  the twig into holding the
 Walnut with a .22 cal rifle. I do not climb the trees. There would not be any thing wrong with climbing the trees and shaking the limbs, I just like to shoot them off.
Then I fill all 5 of my "Sun Tea" jars with the whole green walnut. Then go to the liquor store and buy a few half gallon bottles of "Ever Clear" grain Alcohol. I cut the grain alcohol 50% with distilled water and I fill the Sun Tea jars, (with Walnuts already in them) with this now 100 proof alcohol.They have quit selling Ever Clear alcohol in this state so now I use 100 proof Vodka straight(I do not cut it.)It does not taste good if it is made with 100 proof Vodka but it still works.
Then set the jars full of Walnuts and alcohol in a place where they are safe from being knocked over and OUT of direct sun light. I let them set there for 4 or 5 day or until the liquid starts turning a browish-green. Then I start draining this tincture off with the valves at the bottom of the Sun tea jars. If you have made go tincture,you can take a small bottle into the sunlight and shake it up and then watch the color as it runs down the side of the container and it will have a greenish tinge to it. It is good for basically ever if you keep the lid on the bottle and not let it Oxidize.I recommend 2 teaspoons three times a day for someone who is really sick and continue it for a few days past when they start feeling better. Many of my patients just take a drink or two three times a day or when their stomach or bowels or sickness starts to bother them again,if it does. I have some patients who just drink some tincture every now and then profolactically. 
If you are treating any alcoholics,you can make the tincture with water. It just  takes bigger doses.Johnray1


There was an interesting event that took place during the American Civil War. The battle was the Battle of Shilo. It was a very big battle with many casualties on each side. One problem that all of the troops had was a lack of water delivered to them. There was one little swampy area that had a large Walnut tree at its edge. Many of the wounded soldiers on both sides crawled to this swampy water hole to get a drink of water.The Walnuts from this large tree had been falling into this water for years. But after the battle and the medical personal were looking for wounded they found many at this swamp drinking the Walnut tinged water. Then some Doctor noticed a few days later,that of all of the people who died of their wounds, not of the troops that they had found at this swamp drinking the walnut tinged water, NONE of these soldiers had died.Johnray1
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Hello, Johnny Ray,
 
Very sorry to hear that.  You might find this link interesting.  http://www.essiacinfo.org/caisse. - http://www.essiacinfo.org/caisse.html
 
Praying for you both.
 
God bless.
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sheep lady.thank You.Johnray1
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So sorry to read about your wife - prayers for you both.

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I do not know if this is any help at all but I have found a clinical trial.


I know I can be very little help and I am sorry for it, but I am still looking and praying for you both.

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