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    Posted: November 25 2015 at 5:50pm
41 kids die from mystery disease in Papua along with some number of local pigs and chickens.

The region was hit by the hog cholera virus from 2005 to 2010 that caused thousands of livestock, especially pigs, to die. “We fear the virus has mutated to humans and this must immediately be analyzed,” said Madai.

based on one local media report, the number of fatalities has grown to 56.


birds and humans dying at the same time very worrying!!!!!
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Nethy Dharma Somba, The Jakarta Post, Jayapura | Headlines | Tue, November 24 2015, 6:27 PM

A large number of children, many below the age of seven, have died of an unexplained disease in Mbuwa district, Nduga regency, Papua, following the start of the rainy season in early November.

A medical team consisting of health workers from Nduga, Wamena and Jayawijaya regencies arrived at the location but have yet to ascertain the cause of the deaths.

“As many as 41 children have died, as of today. They present with a slight illness at first but die shortly after these initial signs. The medical team from Nduga Health Office, assisted by the Wamena Health Office may have returned home, but the cause of these deaths remains uncertain,” said Mbuwa district chief Erias Gwijangge, during a call to The Jakarta Post on Monday.

Erias said Nduga and surrounding areas had experienced drought and were exposed to haze from forest fires. Rain only fell in the past month. When the rain began, a number of livestock, such as pigs and poultry, also died abruptly.

“Many of the children died prior to the livestock but there was no report of child fatalities, only in the last three days,” said Erias.

When contacted by the Post, Wamena City community health clinic analysis member Yan Hubi, who joined the trip to Mbuwa district, said his clinic analyzed blood samples of the children to find out if the children had been infected by malaria, but all were negative.

Yan returned to Mbuwa on Nov. 17. A doctor and several other medical workers are also continuing to conduct medical treatment in Mbuwa.

According to Yan, when a long drought hit the Pegunungan Tengah mountain range region in 1998, including Nduga, a malaria epidemic took place and killed hundreds of people. The symptoms of those who died were similar to the recent deaths.

“They initially caught the flu, then diarrhea and then later, they died. We asked for malaria analysis, conducted a rapid test in the district and later a microscopic test at a lab in Wamena. Of the 70 blood samples, all were negative for malaria,” said Yan, who was also involved in blood analysis during the 1998 malaria epidemic in the Pegunungan Tengah region.

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no mention of this outbreak on the Indonesian Ministry of Health websites, but the Indonesian press and twitter (Hashtag `Kematian anak papua’  or `Papua Child Deaths’) is driving a lot of traffic on the story. Symptoms appear to be primarily fever and respiratory distress.
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Twitter confirmation from the Indonesian MOH Public Communications Office acknowledging the investigation, but ratcheting down the fatal case count to 31 children, not 41 or 56 as reported by the media.


Thursday, 26/11/2015 by  Gert van der Hoek,


Investigate Mysterious Death 32 Children in Papua, the Ministry of Health Inquiry Team to Location  

Jakarta, Ministry of Health has received reports about the mysterious death of 32 children in the District Mbuwa, Ndunga regency, Papua. The team of experts has been sent to uncover the cause of the incident. "My team and DHO Papua were at the scene to conduct an investigation," said Director General of Disease Control and Environmental Health (P2PL) Ministry of Health, Dr HM Subuh, MPH detikHealth when contacted on Thursday (26 / 11/2015). About the latest developments in the field investigation results, Subuh claimed to have not received a report.

Limited access to communication at the site became an obstacle for the latest information quickly. Clearly, Dawn submit corrections that the number of victims is not 41 as reported so far, but 31 cases. Meanwhile, head of the Papua Health Office Dr. Aloysius Giyai, as reported previously detikHealth MKes calls since October 2015 until today the number of victims reached 32 children. See also: About the Mysterious Death of Child in District 32 Ndunga, this explanation Papua Health Office

Most of the victims are children children under the age of 2 years. The reported symptoms include high fever, convulsions and diarrhea. Both the Ministry of Health and the Papua Health Office is still awaiting the results of the examination of samples in the laboratory to determine the cause of death of the boys. Although the symptoms are similar to malaria, tests have been conducted by the officer showed negative results. Another suggestion that developing pneumonia (pneumonia) and ARI (Acute Respiratory Infections). "The important thing now is no reduction of the province and center," said Dawn.
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“We fear the virus has mutated to humans and this must immediately be analyzed,” said Madai.



Now that is one scary movie in the making.   The worst of the worst. 
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This article is from 6 years ago, but it may have some relevance.  Not only have we had 6 previous Cholera pandemics, but Cholera also mutates like the flu, and a Cholera pandemic is almost been expected.

Very rarely over the last decade,  if ever, have I heard a health authority or doctor ever use the term "mutated to humans", as what was mention in the initial post in this thread.  That has got my attention, and that is a very serious statement that shouldn't be taken lightly.

Anyway, the old article I mentioned...

Cholera bug mutates to acquire flu qualities: scientists

Last updated: 01 September, 2009
Kalyan Ray,DH News Service,Aug 31,New Delhi:

They may be different infections caused by different kinds of micro organisms, but scientists have now found that cholera and flu are getting closer and may hit populations across the world with devastating effect.



An international team that analysed the genome of 23 strains of cholera bugs has discovered that they will become more dangerous in future to infect a large number of people. The strains taken for analysis had infected the world in the past 98 years.
The team, led by Rita Cowell, former head of the US National Science Foundation, say the manner of the mutated cholera agents are similar to those observed typically in flu. This would also make the newer strain more virulent.

Public health workers should anticipate emergence of a new strain and prepare themselves accordingly, the researchers reported in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on Monday. “Comparative genome analysis show small changes in the bug's genetic structure particularly in the path that governs virulence and transmissibility," G Balakrish Nair, the Indian contributor to the research and director of the National Institute of Cholera and Enteric Disease (NICD), Kolkata told Deccan Herald.

The world witnessed six cholera pandemics and is currently undergoing the seventh pandemic that began in 1961. Between 2006 and 2008, India reported 7254 cases of cholera. Though Delhi, Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra contributed to the bulk of the infected cases, about 85 per cent of them were spread over five states in the country, including Karnataka.

Experts, however, say that the estimates grossly understate the seriousness of the condition in India. "Cholera is under-reported in the country," Nair admitted.
During an outbreak, any pathogen -be it cholera or flu- comes under collective pressure of immunity. Mutation in pathogens would enable the organism to deceive the immune system.  Observing the epidemic in India and Bangladesh in 1992, the NICED had reported that cholera strain O1 changes its outer jacket to become O139 to evade the body's immunity against it.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/22696/cholera-bug-mutates-acquire-flu.html



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One thing that they should consider is that it's spreading primarily among kids.   To me, that would indicate a possible new flu virus or coronavirus.   

I still say by them claiming that it's a mutated Cholera that has made the leap to humans is a very serious thing to say.  It seems like a toss up between a new flu, new coronavirus, or mutated Cholera.    A new coronavirus is really difficult to diagnose in the early stages.   All 3 would be very bad news I suppose.       


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Thanks for that Albert,

Hog Cholera
Hog cholera is a contagious disease that -- as the name implies -- primarily affects pigs. The virus that causes it is often transmitted through direct contact between healthy swine and infected swine. There are three forms: acute, chronic, and mild.

READ MORE  http://virus.emedtv.com/hog-cholera/hog-cholera.html


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There's a disease research lab in Papua New Guinea that should be more than equipped to determine what it is.  I just hope that lab wasn't trying some "gain of function" experiment and they had some sort of an accident.    In that report they seem to be semi confident in stating hog cholera may have mutated to humans.  That may be true, but could humans be involved, and are we dealing with a potential lab accident. Fairly presumptuous claim to make.

They have a real sophisticated "research" lab right there in Papua.  Coincidence?   Could they have been doing some gain of function research on hog cholera and tweaked it a bit and had an accident?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papua_New_Guinea_Institute_of_Medical_Research

 

 
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Although it doesn’t tell us much more than we already knew, the Indonesian Ministry of Health has posted a statement about the unidentified outbreak in Papua, which has been widely reported to have killed between 30 and 56 children (and possibly some adults) in the past several weeks.

The outbreak is in a remote region already known for having little or no medical infrastructure and a very high infant mortality rate.   

We’ve seen reports suggesting that this outbreak may be related to a concurrent die off of pigs and chickens in the area, but nearly all of the accounts are second hand information. Case counts, time spans, and symptoms described are too vague to even hazard a guess as to the cause.

The Indonesia MOH website was offline for sometime yesterday but they posted the following later that day.


Kemenkes Investigate death of 31 children in Papua

Jakarta, 27 November 2015

Menkes Nila Moeloek Farid presents to mourn and concerned over the death of 31 children in Papua, the Government responsible for the incident in Papua. The data we receive from the Department of health of Papua Prov. 31 children under the age of 2 years who died since October 2000 to the present.

I've commissioned Director General of disease control and environmental health (P2PL) to send an investigation team to the site, epidemiologic investigations (verification and investigation), recounts the Menkes (27/11).

Menkes stated that field trips to locations quite far and heavy. The current rapid response team from the Ministry of health surveillance and the R & D team is already leading to the location, i.e. the Nduga Regency Mbua village, Papua Province.

As soon as the team reached the site will report the results of the epidemiological investigation further, hopefully by that time the situation has been more clearly so that we can determine the next step, the light of Menkes.

Related to this, Menkes was already commissioned the Director-General of disease control and environmental health to convene the meeting, currently underway cross-Ministry coordination meeting/related agencies, among others the BNPB, the Ministry of agriculture and the TNI.

The news was broadcast by a public Communication Centre, the Secretariat-General of the Ministry of health of INDONESIA. For more information please contact Halo Kemkes through hotline < codes locale > 1500-586; 081281562620 SMS, facsimile: (021) 52921669, and the contact email address [at] kemkes [dot] go [dot] id. -

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That will be scary news if they report that the inhabitants of the village are all dead upon arriving.    This next update with their finds could get a little ugly.    I'm guessing this whole thing is not good at all.  I'm still basing this off the council member of Papua implying that hog Cholera possibly mutating to humans.  

The good news is that all pandemic models show that it takes quite awhile for the bug to escape a remote village.   If they determine human to human transmission, they will need to completely cut off that village and not lot anyone leave, including the team investigating.    Hope they understand this could be a one way trip and they will need to ride it out.   If it has mutated to humans as claimed by the council, it's the only option.  Nobody in or out.


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Investigate Toddler Death in Papua, Tim Kemenkes Not to Find Outbreak


Sunday, 29/11/2015

Jakarta, Tim surveillance of the Ministry of Health have reached the location of the death of 32 children in Nduga regency, Papua. So far it has not found indications of outbreaks. In a release sent to reporters, Public Communication Centre (Puskomblik) The Ministry of Health said that a team of 6 people have visited four villages namely Opmo, Digilmo, Ottolama, and Jerusalem.Overland journey taken for 8 hours across the hills with extreme weather temperature of 6 degrees Celsius. The team must be accompanied by a translator because local residents can not speak Indonesian discovered the existence of under-five deaths.

However, there is no official data regarding the number of cases and the record time. Estimated mortality rates mentioned are compiling since June 2015. "When the data is confirmed by the pastor to the homes of patients, it turns out that the toddler had died years ago," so as dikitip of Puskomblik release on Sunday (11/29/2015). See also: Location Death 32 Children in Papua, Sanitation Poor and Lacking Health Services mentioned in the release, Ministry of Health teams have not seen any correlation between the incidence of cases with one another with the peculiarities of outbreaks that an increase in cases of above normal suddenly in a community. But the symptoms are almost the same recognized include cough, shortness, is accompanied by fever and diarrhea.

 The samples and specimens from people and the environment have been taken for examination in health laboratory in Jayapura. Specimens come from people who are sick and a contact person in the form of a blood specimen, swab anal swabs of the nose, throat swabs and sputum.The Ministry will again send a team to conduct health checks and immunization on Monday (30/11/2015). The team will carry medicine and complementary feeding (breast milk), and will ask for the help of the military to penetrate the rough terrain.

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This is getting a little weird.  First we hear animals and people dropping flies, right in Papua, and the council member claiming hog Cholera mutated to humans, etc.... Now, it's in a remote village and they really had no clue about any of it, and things are like usual there.  It's almost as if someone from the remote village  hiked to town, made some crazy claims, and the council jumped on board screaming the shy is falling, and maybe for no reason at all?   I guess they made up the story to bring aid to the village.   Or maybe the guy didn't have translator with him when he made it town, and the council just jumped to conclusion.  Good grief. 
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Indonesian MOH Update On Papua Outbreak Investigation

With growing media and public attention and criticisms (see VOA Indonesia Commission: Government Not Serious Death Case Handle 41 Children in Papua) lodged by local observers, the Indonesian Ministry of Health is in the uncomfortable position of having to respond without having any real answers.

On Saturday we saw the initial Indonesian MOH Statement On Papua Outbreak, which basically said they were aware of the reports and were sending in a team of investigators.

Today we get a much longer report that describes the rigors of getting into the rugged back country, the living conditions (lack of sanitation, clean water or footwear, shared quarters with livestock, etc.), and the meager medical resources afforded to this region.

Complicating matters, the inhabitants of this remote region only understand  local Papuan dialects – not Indonesia.  The resulting narrative is murky, at best.  And of course the machine translation doesn’t help.

Sample have been taken, and lab tests will hopefully reveal more.   For now, the Papuan outbreak remains unquantified, and unidentified.  But at least, with this outbreak getting local media attention, we are getting regular reports from the MOH.
        

The question of the death of a toddler in the Nduga Papua,

Here's Tim Kemenkes search results

Published on: Monday, 30 November 2015 00:00:00,

A Health Ministry team was assigned to browse truth obituary Toddlers in Kab. Have visited the Nduga and doing fact gathering in Mbuwa Regency Nduga, Papua. A combined team of as many as 6 people derived from the a team crisis center Health Office of Papua New Guinea Area Health, laboratory and Biomedical Health R & D Hall Kemenkes visited 4 kampung namely Opmo, Digilmo, Ottolama, and Jerusalem.

The situation of the terrain at the site of fairly heavy with extreme weather, foggy, rainy with temperatures could reach 6 c. The journey from kampung to kampung is 8 hours by walking up and down the Hill. The people do not speak Indonesia, for that team accompanied the translator team task force bare feet and Papua Province.

Team Kemenkes descended on the Court finds there is a Toddler's death, although no official mortality data recorded both the amount and the time of his death. News of the death of Toddler data circulating in the media came from information Minister felt its citizens have long not been present in the Church. The estimated death toll is a compilation of deaths from June 2015 until now. However, when data from the pastor confirmed with came up to the House of the patient turns out to be the Toddler had died last year.

There is a Clinic in Mbuwa, but has not been functioning properly since the location is quite far from the residence of the population, besides public awareness towards the health facilities are still very low. The number of health workers in Clinics as much as 4 people, consisting of 1 person 1 person midwives, pharmacy, 1 head of clinics and 1 person doctor PTT. The reach of health workers towards the houses is very limited with regard to heavy terrain and a closed society against outsiders. According to doctor PTT served for him there (6 months) delivery by health workers rarely do.

The team also found no relationship has not seen the incident case between one patient with another patient with the idiosyncrasies of the outbreak that is increased incidence of cases above normal suddenly in a community. But there are almost the same symptoms in the form of cough, tightness, fever and some are accompanied by diarrhea.

Residents in district Mbuwa stay at home the several honay accompanied cages of pigs in it. Room in house honay has air circulation is not good. Only small children can stand upright in honay. In general the inhabitants do not use footwear. Terkontaminassi water source with pig manure and water never is cooked when it is consumed.

Team Kemenkes has taken the specimen comes from the people and examined in the laboratory for environmental health in Jayapura. The specimen comes from people who are sick and those contacts in the form of a specimen of blood, anal swab, nasal swab, sputum and throat swab.

On Monday (11/29), the Ministry of health sent a team of health will return to conduct the medical examination and immunization and health education. In addition, Kemenkes will bring drugs and MP ASI. Kemenkes will ask for help the TNI in order to penetrate the heavy terrain and difficult access.

The news was broadcast by a public Communication Centre, the Secretariat-General of the Ministry of health of INDONESIA. For more information please contact Halo Kemkes through hotline 1500-586; 081281562620 SMS, facsimile: (021) 52921669, and the contact email address [at] kemkes [dot] go [dot] id.

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Well. If not much else, we know how where and why all the pandemics begin. 'Course, we already knew that.
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Infant Mortality in Papua Investigated, Lab Test Done Now Awaiting Results

Jakarta, Team of the Ministry of Health has conducted a review of epidemiology-related death of 32 children in nduga regency, Papua. Ministry of Health teams taking blood samples to investigate the cause of this mysterious death.

"The team we have taken a blood sample, sample of sputum, swab the throat there is also swab the anus. Sample complementary including land and water were also taken to investigate the exact cause of what," said Director General of Disease Control and Environmental Health (P2PL) Kemenekes, Dr. HM Subuh, met at the Hotel Bidakara, Jl Gatot Subroto, Jewel, South Jakarta, Monday (11/30/2015) night.

"the samples first arrived at 3 pm. The fastest 24 hours we know so maybe tomorrow afternoon (Tuesday afternoon) we can know the result," he added.

"We are confident it is a virus just what virus we do not know yet. It could be that attack the digestive enteroviruses, retroviruses or pneumonia. We are waiting for lab results to be sure," he said again.

Dr. Subuh also doubted the claim saying an epidemic or outbreak of disease. Ministry of Health of the team's findings, there is no mass death suddenly that becomes a marker epidemic or outbreak of disease.

"There's no data there, people rarely go to health centers for treatment because he considered it if you have severe pain. His account is crisscrossing also a matter of how the victim," he said.

"Someone died in June last year, no one died four months ago, some say the death of October. So still we find out. So there is no outbreak and not sudden death many children in a short time," he concluded.
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So basically, 32 Children did not suddenly die, and this is over span of 6 months since last June, and there is no outbreak whatsoever.   I would say this got blown a little out of proportion.



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