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Topic - sixth mass extinction event
Posted: July 20 2017 at 4:02pm By Technophobe
Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

I'm literally at the point where I think climate change mitigation should be part of any serious prepper's long term preps. I think a world far different from ours is an unavoidable future in the next few decades, and you should realistically plan for it. Picking the right place to be is going to be the trick though - get out that crystal ball, and good luck.
Up a hill - sea levels will be rising and flash flooding will be more common,
With trees - they help prevent drought, stop landslides and provide fuel,
With strong structures - winds will rise and earthquakes increase (isostatic readjustment),
With seed that will grow further north (south for the southern hemisphere) and fruit trees that will thrive and produce in hotter temperatures than you face now,
Grow resistant strains - as in survival situations pesticides will be unavailable,
Have good storage - weather prediction may fail with "weather weirding" and you will need back up supplies some years,
Arm to protect what you have - but also cultivate a support network you can rely on.  Survival is easier in groups: that is why our ancestors lived in tribes.
Store some fungicides and learn some simple medicine.  The hotter it gets, the more you sweat, the more you sweat the more fungi love you!


Those of you who rely heavily on potatoes (great for limited space) go for the most blight resistant strain you can get and interplant it with ocu (ocu helps keep blight away and provides a fall-back starch source if the spuds fail.  Slugs hate them too.)  Move the crop each year and plant elsewhere.

If you garden at all, learn to polyploid your plants, they are stronger, better at resisting disease and more productive.

I am fascinated by medicine; especially nutrition: my husband is a botanical nut.  We have (after colossal research, trial and error and much arguing) come up with a minimum plant list for nutritional basics.

Whichever grain grows best in your area and any pea/bean/lentil you get the best crop from  Have a look at what the local farmers grow.  This will give you balanced protein and all the b vitamins (except 12).  If the legume you chose is a species of pea, the holmes can be fed to livestock and the tendrils and pods can be eaten too, increasing production in a limited space.

Oilseed rape (or better still kale) to provide green veg for both vitamin c (leaf) and oil (seed) get a red variety if you can as a source of beta carotene.  After pressing, the seed-cake makes an animal feed.

Sugar beet or beetroot, to supply gore sugar - this enables you to preserve the fruits of the wild plants in your area, or the produce of vineyards, orchards and the veggie plot (beta carotene).  Sugar cane works, but it fills the wrong role in a four crop rotation.  Any species of innula also works for this role, but less of the calories would be available to you.  Spuds can also fill the fourth role, but they cannot be used to make sugar for preserving, so you would also need a red or yellow veg that is clampable to provide the rest of the beta carotene if you go for spuds.

Those four plants can be used as a four crop rotation: keeping pests down and fertility up.  That simple process massively raised the yields and reliability of the farms of our ancestors.

There are two nutrients those plants fail to provide: vitamins d and b12.  Both can be supplied by the last crop: tempeh

Being a fungus, tempeh makes neither d nor b12 under normal circumstances.  However, as the culture is propagated year in year out, it develops accompanying bacterial cultures and these make b12.  Just like us, fungi make vitamin d to protect themselves from ultraviolet radiation.  So before cooking the tempeh you have just cut from the culture, put it out in the sunlight for an hour or so.

These basics are as boring as s**t and a more varied diet will be healthier, but you can survive on just them and a bit of foraging for the rest of your lives if necessary.  If pests eat your crops - eat the pests. SORRY!  

Caterpillars are not normally edible to us; chickens and ducks can eat them.  
Snails carry horrible diseases, so if you are going to eat them, keep them in a barrel of oatmeal for a day or too before eating and COOK THEM VERY WELL!  
Ducks can eat slugs without harm and they love them!  They will patrol your veggie plot for them and then lay eggs.  
Locusts are a particularly good food source.  If you have eaten them, as my husband has, they are quite pleasant and popular in some African countries.  
All birds are edible, but birds of prey carry nasty stuff and rot amazingly fast - best avoided.  
Cook any mammals very well to avoid  disease transmission.  The closer the relative, the more diseases you have in common.  That is why canibalism is such a stupid idea.
Be careful of river and near coastal fish (and the scavengers of those areas like seagulls) as they are quickly poisoned by polution and in a survival situation there will be no regulating bodies.