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    Posted: October 09 2018 at 2:08am
Trump can be incredibly gracious and decent when he wants to be. Kauvanaugh looks amazing.   Look at him he is a good and decent man.   

Kavanaugh is sworn in
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In case you failed to understand my post. (My fault, too hard to talk about!). I am an abuse survivor myself.

Speaking from personal knowledge, I still believe Blaisey-Ford. Her testimony expressed things we feel that others do not.

This, in my opinion, was not the swearing-in of a good man, but a truly great actor.

Unless you have worn my shoes for a few miles, I understand you can't see what I see. But this is not the time to rub salt into these wounds. I understand that some women (may they be dammed to the same part of hell as those guilty of the abuse) lie for their own ends. But I have an unshakeable certainty that this is not the case here.

To those of us who know how the abuse feels, Trump was not being gracious, but gloating. For myself, this has clawed the scabs off of some deep old wounds. I nearly threw an old friend out yesterday who was only visiting for a couple of hours, because he backed Trump on this. Hubby calmed me down and I now realise how emotional this has made me. I am taling a few days off now to collect my thoughts (Sorry boss!). Please try to understand, that for those of us unlucky enough to be "in the know", this is a disaster for justice.
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hey Techno,i hears you ,

what Men dont get ,is there a millions of women and girls out there that a subject to unwanted comments,gropes ,attacks every day,

i know one very attractive young lady ,she says it makes her want to VOMIT the way some men look and comment at her,

i would not trust either Kauvanaugh or ARCH pervert trump any where near my Daughter or grandkids

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I now fear for my son and all men. ANY woman that was in College/University or High School with any man can now get revenge for any action by saying they raped her or accosted her. Now women MUST be believed and men are guilty because they are men.


Look at that woman that said Kavanaugh was part of a gang rape...really. In this country you are innocent until proven guilty. But with 1/2 the country now men are just GUILTY. Men be afraid be very afraid of women!!!
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FluMom - Here's the problem. Women don't come forward because they are ashamed and afraid they won't be believed! So when a women is brave enough to speak up and the powers that be don't investigate, don't believe her, the President of the United States attacks her and makes fun of her on national TV who will be willing to speak up the next time? Women deserve, at the very least, a full investigation of the charges not the dog and pony show the white house allowed!
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I don't fear women, FluMom. At least not as much as it's now apparent that many women fear men.

I recently found this piece written by Jackson Katz, a prominent social researcher. It recounts an exercise he's carried out with hundreds of audiences. I shared it on my social media feed then, and I'll share it now in the hope that it highlights the divide between the sexes to anyone that might benefit from it - and by that, I mean men that might not realize just how different our realities are. The truth is that the odds of being wrongly accused of sexual impropriety are far, far less than a women's chances of being a victim of such abuse.


"I draw a line down the middle of a chalkboard, sketching a male symbol on one side and a female symbol on the other.
Then I ask just the men: What steps do you guys take, on a daily basis, to prevent yourselves from being sexually assaulted? At first there is a kind of awkward silence as the men try to figure out if they've been asked a trick question. The silence gives way to a smattering of nervous laughter. Occasionally, a young a guy will raise his hand and say, 'I stay out of prison.' This is typically followed by another moment of laughter, before someone finally raises his hand and soberly states, 'Nothing. I don't think about it.'

Then I ask the women the same question. What steps do you take on a daily basis to prevent yourselves from being sexually assaulted? Women throughout the audience immediately start raising their hands. As the men sit in stunned silence, the women recount safety precautions they take as part of their daily routine.
Hold my keys as a potential weapon. Look in the back seat of the car before getting in. Carry a cell phone. Don't go jogging at night. Lock all the windows when I sleep, even on hot summer nights. Be careful not to drink too much. Don't put my drink down and come back to it; make sure I see it being poured. Own a big dog. Carry Mace or pepper spray. Have an unlisted phone number. Have a man's voice on my answering machine. Park in well-lit areas. Don't use parking garages. Don't get on elevators with only one man, or with a group of men. Vary my route home from work. Watch what I wear. Don't use highway rest areas. Use a home alarm system. Don't wear headphones when jogging. Avoid forests or wooded areas, even in the daytime. Don't take a first-floor apartment. Go out in groups. Own a firearm. Meet men on first dates in public places. Make sure to have a car or cab fare. Don't make eye contact with men on the street. Make assertive eye contact with men on the street.”

― Jackson Katz, The Macho Paradox: Why Some Men Hurt Women and How All Men Can Help


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Men attack woman......

I fear for my Daughter and granddaughters ,

Not my Son,

How many false accusations by women are out there,and how many women are attacked by Men

How many men kill Women

Let the figures speak for themselves.....

Men need to STOP ABUSING WOMEN
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If you're in the good ole U.S. of A and think sexual abuse isn't a problem, do a google search for Sex Offender registry and add your county and state behind it! These are only the offenders (who live near you) that have been caught, tried and convicted! Over and over again we read of teachers, cub scout leaders, preachers, priests, judges, politicians, police officers, people with power and everyday Joe's and Josephine's being charged with sexual abuse of one kind or another! If the case goes to court everyone of their accusers have to go through the same ridicule, questioning and shaming that Ms. Ford just went through, just not on a national stage!
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Everyone wants to speak in generalities.   In general I agree that sexual assault is a bad scourge on our society. If I believe that, I find the conclusion that I must believe every accuser absolutely absurd.

Fords lifetime friend facing purjury has said Ford never knew Kavanaugh. She even said she received pressure to change her account and refused.

If Fords own friend (who was alleged to be present) doesn't believe her why do you?
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Because she has no reason to lie....

unlike Kavanaugh,who has a lifetime job to look forward to if he lies....

And gets away with it....

He will probably have a good laugh about it with your pussy grabbing

Pervert of a president.....
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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

Because she has no reason to lie....

unlike Kavanaugh,who has a lifetime job to look forward to if he lies....

And gets away with it....

He will probably have a good laugh about it with your pussy grabbing

Pervert of a president.....


Actually, Kavanaugh was already set with a lifetime gig as US Circuit Judge in DC.

Landing on the SCOTUS is an extremely high honor, some might argue even more so than being President! Pres. Obama's legacy is being shredded by his successor, but a Justice can make permanent history with his or her rulings.

And I agree, pervert of a president.
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What was the friends incentive to lie?

You could argue that both Kavanaugh and Ford had motivation to lie but not the friend.
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Well Kavanaughs friend had to lie else he could be found guilty as an accessory to an attempted assault,in a court situation,

And as I think Ford telling the truth I don't think her friend lied,

As I said in another post, theses boys drunk, never gave it a second thought,but it obviously had a deep and lasting affect on Ford,someone else may have laughed it off.

The point here being Men need to Stop abusing women,

Here in Australia there never seems to be a week go by without a woman being killed by domestic violence ,

it has to Stop
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