What preps do you have and why?
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Topic: What preps do you have and why?
Posted By: jacksdad
Subject: What preps do you have and why?
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 1:41pm
| I think this would be extremely useful to those who have just started prepping and are facing the daunting task of planning for an extended SIP. As soon as I can make a list I'll be happy to post what I have and the reasoning (or lack of...) behind them. So, if you're willing, let us know just what preps you have and why you chose them, and how long you're planning on living off them. I think everyone will expect long lists, so don't worry. The experienced preppers could potentially save valuable time for those new to stockpiling, and as I'm sure we're all aware, time may not be a luxury we have here. |
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Posted By: cgh18
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 2:12pm
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Hi all, I started a while back but I buy by the case. I like to think I have in excess of 6 months food on hand for one person.
2 cases ravioli 3 cases of beans, ( they were 3 cans for 1$) 3 cases of canned vegs. 1 case cream of wheat 1 case pasta 1 case apple sauce 1 case tuna 25 lbs sugar 10 lbs coffee and the typical white metal food cabinet full of assorted items. I will stock up on paper product and fresh produce when I think things are out of hand. I choose things that are tasty, easily heated and I always check the expiration code. lots will last by code to 2009. Perhaps the easiest way to figure your needs is by the pound, if you were to eat 2 lbs per day , you would need approx 60 pounds per month. ------------- cgh |
Posted By: johngardner1
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 3:53pm
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Your preps look ok to me. I don't drink coffee or use table sugar since I never eat cereal. How long does 10 lbs of coffee last?
I still think canning is a pointless exercise, for the money you can buy regular canned food which would probably last longer anyway since it was canned via machine than by hand. I'm in an apartment, I wish I had a big freezer like my dad did, bread lasts for years when frozen and that means sandwiches. Be prepared to eat those raviolis cold though, if the power goes out it could be a very, VERY long time before it comes back on, presuming it comes back on at all. ------------- I am not a prophet |
Posted By: johngardner1
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 3:55pm
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Also, count how many cans of each you have, check how many servings per can and you know how many rations you have. If you have four people in your household, thats four rations a day if you starve yourself, which means two cans w/two servings each per day.
I put my nutrigrain bars in my emergency duffel bag. I'm going to get more soon, they're good til about the middle of 2008 so I have to cycle twice yearly. ------------- I am not a prophet |
Posted By: Suzi
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 9:06pm
| I started with staples because they are cheap and I could get the most calories for the dollar. They also will keep easily long term. I know people who are eating the last of their vacume-sealed Y2K rice. If everything turns out better than we think these things can be used with no problem. If it is the end of civilization as we know it, we will have flour, corn meal, rice, beans, sugar, grits, spagetti and cooking oil for about one year. If we can grow something to go with these things they should last longer. I am now working on canned foods mainly for the short term. I would like to have 365 cans of some type of tomato product. I have maybe 75 now. Canned foods are much more expensive when you look at calories for the dollar but staples will only get you so far. Meat is also a problem. Beans will supply protein but I think that will get old. I am picking up several tins of sardines with chili peppers every time I go to the dollar store. I am also buying spam to flavor the beans. I would need 200 cans of spam to flavor all the beans I have but I cannot bring myself to buy that much yet. Watch out for applesause. It turns brown if it gets a little old. I have learned a lot. Also pancake mix does not keep good. |
Posted By: cgh18
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 5:59am
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I forgot to mention I have rice, seasonings and canned fruits. Rice is very important and inexpensive and easily mixed with beans and soups or meats. I do eat out of my stores and replace them. I will buy dry beans and peas. Also remember you pet food supplies.
You will need a source of water, and heat/ fuels. Remember if they get close to expiration dates you can donate them to food pantries. ------------- cgh |
Posted By: JONESIE
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 8:36am
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I bought a lot of soup and canned veggies. And when I tasted it, it was all nasty. (except for Campbell's Chicken Noodle soup).
So I went and bought 1 lb. canisters of onion and garlic powders, and also various herb seasoning combos to go into the canned soups. Then it was tasty.
 So be sure and buy granulated and powdered garlic and onion and other herbs for the canned soups, beans, and veggies, otherwise you will be miserable.
 And 1 pound packages of dried yeast from Gordon Food Supplies are inexpensive. I needed a lot of yeast for all that flour I have in cans. Yeast will keep over 5 years in the freezer if unopened.
And don't forget the very large containers of baking soda and baking powder.
"Perhaps catastrophe is the natural human environment, and even though we spend a good deal of energy trying to get away from it, we are programmed for survival amid catastrophe." -- Germaine Greer-- |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 9:41am
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I probably have the smallest list ever=[
I have been trying to do my preps for a while but i dont get to buy stuff very much becauase most of the $$ goes to bilss in my family and stuff, im only 17 ... but i do have 30 cans of beans, 10 pounds of rice, the typical 5 lbs of sugar, 200 packets of green tea, like 3 or 4 survival food meals(camping and whatnot....)i also have, those on the go packets, about 4 boxes, i have 1 box of breakfast drinks,that'sabout it for now in the food dept......but in other things, i have an emergency radio from radio shack, 12 rolls of toilet paper off to the side...a huge bottle of hand sanitizer to save water, which i need^_^; oh!!!! i have a question, how much water per person per day? i would like to know that. everytime i go to costco, people are always buying in bulk and fighting over stuffi n the aisles. its scaryand i walk past them, and they be saying, its for my emergency kit!! i need it!! i saw one person wheel out 12 cases of 24 pack water...it was scary O_O ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 9:41am
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i meant to say bills* not bilss. sorry bout my typos ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 10:04am
I found this prep from another memeber..i think there name is Guests. Look at what they got so far...how's theres? i know its waaay better than nime 
Guests preps: " I've been prepping for a while, and I'm STILL nowhere near where I need to be. It's frustrating. Everything is mega expensive. I've done well at pawn shops for old tools (sometimes pawn shops are mega cheap). Yard sales are a godsend. And, while I hate chinese goods, and generally refuse to buy them, I have come to realise that there is more at stake than the prospect of giving in to my detestations. Here's what we have so far: 150 lbs of Rice 80lbs of beans 50 lbs of all purpose flour (I'm buying a crapload more tommorow) 10 lbs of semolina flour 2lbs of active dry yeast 15lbs of whole wheat flour 40 cans of sardines/octopus/squid, etc. 50 cans of tuna 50 cans of soup 30 boxes/bags of pasta 15 bags of noodles Approx 20 small bags of dehydrated vegetables 80ish cans of various vegetables 5lbs of salt 50lbs of sugar 20 cans of tomatoes (a big deal in our house) 10 bottles of Tiger sauce (awful, right?) 20 gallons of olive oil 15 bottles of balsalmic vinegar 10 gallons of white vinegar 20 boxes of that parmalait stuff 10lbs of powdered milk (yech!) about 10lbs of dried peppers (I've got em in my garden) all the spices/herbal medicines you could imagine 10 jars of mayo (on sale, baby) 10 bottles of mustard An absolutely endless supply of tea and ginseng A few cases of wine : P A nice store of liquor And, other little goodies- chocolate, pistachios, oils, etc. 10 tubes of toothpaste 20 bars of soap 100 disposable razors 30 boxes of baking soda 2 boxes of 50 rolls of toilet paper 2 boxes of 14 rolls of paper towels (I'm starting on the Mane and Tail shampoo/condit tommorrow- it's cheap as hell and it works like a charm) 10 bottles of cocoa butter (big bottles) 2 first aid kits rain suits oil lanterns (old school) tons of lamp oil guns - smith & wesson M&P 40 cal (compact model, so it fits my hands, as well), Walther p22, winchester defender 1300 12g, My grandfather's 1952 winchester rifle, and we're really psyched, because we're getting ready to buy a colt 9mm AR-15 :D....yeah, we've got a small armory...tee hee almost too much ammunition Correction....wayyyy wayyy too much ammunition We've also got hunting bows absolutely endless fishing gear Spear guns Dive gear boats Bang Sticks ( but, you can only use em in internatl. waters : ( ) Hawaiian spears Cast Iron cookwear (I've been picking it up cheap at Marshalls and TJ Maxx) Chef's knives (My man can cook, what can I say?) Tons of (mostly manual) cooking equipment- and good stuff like pizza stones, spare brick lying around in our warehouse, ceramic cookwear, etc. Firewood Gardening equipment I've got a store of seeds that would make ya'lls jaw drop- Thank you Seedsavers.com ;) We currently have a garden going. It's small, but can be extended considerably, provided there is a need We've also got a multi-acre property that is walled in by a 12 foot, 1ft thick concrete wall, with VERY sharp steel finials on top of it. It has fruit trees, and plenty of room to plant a whole damn farm. It's a real estate development, that hasn't got much going on because of the market We've got a well, tapped, and a pump for it at our house We've got generators tents trailers suvs Lots of rope Compressors A ridiculous number of tools warehouses 2 300gal poly tanks I got from a water treatment plant survival/gardening/herbal/fishing/hunting/sailing/building books...etc. You name it .........but..........THERE IS SOO MUCH MORE we need! I've barely touched down on the food needs- the first aid needs and basic hygeine needs are out the damn door right now. Most of the stuff we already have lying around- dormant, ready to be used should a situation arise. Keep on prepping, guys. We've got so much work to do. " what u think of it? ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: Tadeo
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 1:29pm
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besides the normal stock I have a lot of baby wipes and toilet paper. Nothing like a baby wipe bath! ------------- "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson. |
Posted By: Mo magic
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 3:42pm
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Salt, Salt, Salt!!!! Salt is extremely important to have, the body can not survive with out SALT! Water, food is a must! but your body needs salt. Mo |
Posted By: grammajo
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 7:37pm
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I've been prepping for a long time and am ready for 18 months so my list is too long to post all at one time. Some of my more important ones I'll try to list.
Crackers
peanut butter
canned tuna
rice and dried beans ( these 2 mixed will give good nutrition)
gatorade for hydration
tylenol
advil
sugar and salt for oral hydration mixture if you don't have gatorade
heat source
wood stove, grill, et. for cooking
breakfast bars
dried fruits and veggies
canned soups or stews (good if you have no water or way of cooking)
matches (very important to have lots)
candles
wind up or shaker type flashlights, lanterns & radios
lots of handsoap ( can be used as a substitute for other soaps needed)
personal hygiene items
toilet tissue and kleenex
dramamine for sickness
immodium AD
coffee or tea (good barter item)
wine and cigarettes are also good barter
garden seeds
canned beans for protien
black elderberry wine or jelly ( good for the immune system)
lots and lots of water
nuts
I also planted fruit trees and nut trees for the future
spices
dried eggs
powdered milk
coffee filters
clorox bleach (for water purification)
garbage bags
pet food
boullion cubes
butter flavored crisco
chocolate candies
pop tarts
This is just part of my stores. I hope it's of help to someone
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Posted By: Penham
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 7:38pm
| I have about a years supply of food for 3 people. I have the same amount of HBA items like toothpaste, shampoo, soap, etc. I do not have a years supply of TP, paper products, dog food or cat food. I need to get back to work on that. |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 10:54am
Wow, Grammajo and Penham. 18 months and one year? I'm impressed 
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Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 2:52pm
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Would stores like Costco and Target and Walmart be the best stores to buy preps? ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 4:14pm
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Definitely Costco and Walmart. I've never seen anything in Target I thought would be useful at a good price. Love the store, but not for prepping in my experience. Check out your regular grocery shopping stores too - they often have name brand stuff at promotional prices, or clearance items. I recently bought soup that my local Albertsons was discontinuing (expiration date still 2 years away in some cases) that was discounted from $3.99 to 50 cents. The guy at the checkout looked at me like I was nuts when I rolled up with a shopping cart full of soup and nothing else. His face was a picture when he saw how much my savings were. I eventually made two trips and saved over $150. Dollar stores are okay for some stuff, but check expiration dates. Remember - you get what you pay for.
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Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 4:19pm
| Just picked up more toilet paper and canned veggies at Walmart. Their own brand of TP is $1.12 for six rolls but it sells out pretty quick around here. |
Posted By: Suzi
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 4:29pm
| Buy tomato paste instead of soup. Some brands of soup list paste and water as the only ingredients. Some list spice also. Paste is cheaper and you can use it in other ways. |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 4:48pm
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Oh, one day i was at costco, they were selling emergency kits that are meant for a family of 3. Ah..you had a good buy. My city doesnt have Albertsons but i know what it is. We have Safeway. I am going to costco pretty soon, i should start buying more stuff. I had no idea that walmart had its own toilet paper ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: Tadeo
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 4:45am
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I've seen people mention coffee filters on their lists. What other uses do they have? And, how much lamp oil should one have? I bought 3 lamps and have roughly 2 gallons of oil. How fast does this oil burn in these lamps? ------------- "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson. |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 9:30am
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I wouldnt know that answer.maybe a coffee filter can be used as a cold pack?
Hmm...... Does anyone have an emergency radio? I do but i was wondering if anyone else did.Also, if u do have one, what can it do? I also have a flashlight that you shake and it provides light. I have a question, if the pandemic happened, would landline or cell phones or internet be able to still work?or even electricity at that? Does anyone have walkie talkies(5mi,10mi,30mi)? Would that be necessary? ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: Ro2935
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 9:58am
I have coffee filter papers because I have a couple of water butts that collect rain water, if I need to use this water for personal use I would use them to filter out debrie and bugs then treat with purification tablets, [bleach in the uk is scented and is not safe to use in drinking water here]. No idea about your lamp oil, why not fill one lamp and see how long it lasts, you can then adjust [calculate] the amount you will need in an emergency situation. |
Tadeo wrote:Posted By: Ro2935
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 10:07am
I think that the electricity and land lines will be working for a while, just think that if there was a breakdown of any of these services it would be a while before they where fixed, especially in areas that had civil unrest, would you want to be a repair person in a area where you was going to be attacked, these areas would have to wait until armed personal would be able to assist them, plus if your bills haven't been paid I would expect that your services would be disconnected. Walkie talkies may be useful so you could talk to family members, neighbours, friends but you are going to need plenty of battries as back up. |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 2:30pm
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ah. i see what you mean. Ahh.. so then would postage be disrupted in the case of a pandemic? ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: cgh18
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 2:34pm
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I also just purchased some crank flashlights made by Dorcy at Sears, they seem better than the ones from Wal- mart and I used some Amazon free dollars to buy a crank radio made by Freeplay. Great to have and no batteries needed which will save money in the long run. ------------- cgh |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 2:49pm
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I got my shake up light from sears, the beginning of this year.I got my solar/battery/dynamo powered radio from radioshack...it has a light like a lantern, a siren*dont know what im going to need that 4* and obviously a radio. i also got walkie talkies from radioshack. now its time to build up my battery prep again^_6; ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: Juliane
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 11:12pm
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I bought a woodburning stove . It is in a small room.
So we will have heat and a way to cook food. my basement can store fire wood for a year or or so .
I also have a small solar generator .with panels It will keeop radios and a few lights and a small cd player going
I have been buying can food for
two years.Mostly fruit and vegetables and tuna anc corned beef soups and dog food . I am aiming for six months of food
I am currently only buying canned foods . The crackers I bought have already become stale. l I have thrown out food already because they were stale so now I focas on canned food only .which will be safe forever I hope.
I have ten bags of ten 10lb rice
tea and coffee powdered whitner.sugar.salt.
I will buy flour next yeast, jello cooking oil
This is for two of us.
I have five blankets for each of us plus extra buckets to get water.
I have twenty empty large water contiainers.
I need a water filter
extra warm clothes.
Canning jars
garden equipment
seeds
I have two list my last minute list and my basic list and am stiill on my basic list.
My last trip to the store I will fill up the meat freezer and buy fresh fruit and vegetables.
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Posted By: glenp827
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 10:29am
| Man you people all missed it you forgot your ten year supply of peanut butter. If you can't eat it just slather it on to prevent this dosease that does not exist. and if you get sick slather more on!!!! it can't hurt. and CDC has a CURE for this disease that DOES NOT EXIST!! WE ARE DOOMED!!! |
Posted By: glenp827
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 10:31am
| We all need to be off the grid if no one knows where we are then how could we ever contract this non existant disease!! I am putting my puter back to PRE Y2K status just in case!!! Does Algore sell any PANDEMIC CREDITS from his BUNCO CORP??? |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 11:04am
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Are you mocking the severity of a inevitable pandemic?
------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: Suzi
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 11:28am
| He's a troll, but some of our most valuable members have started out as semi-trolls. It remains to be seen if he has the nerve to stay around and read. I dare him. |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 11:52am
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you have a point....once the signs startbto show...he'll turn around ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 8:06pm
I hope he doesn't leave. I like Glen. I'm not sure which was his best post - Chicken Little or the peanut butter one. I laughed until I nearly peed. Nearly. He just has to be one of those screen writers that I saw striking on TV. Hope things turn around for you buddy... 
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Posted By: prprd1
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 8:20pm
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The only thing inevitable is death!
However, Acts of god, mother nature and man happen on a frequent basis. In other words SH^* happens/hits the fan. Therefore I am an advocate of being prepared! I need to re-inventory and update my list and pictures. But here is my list... http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3430 - http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3430 ------------- bullets and water! |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 8:39pm
| Wow - again I'm impressed. Thanks for that. Lots of good ideas. |
Posted By: Juliane
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 11:34pm
Really good advice
Soup can be made from this base easily
Tomatoe paste some pasta a little of beef boulion
chicken bullion rice canned vegetables.
on and on the
better variety better health in general
I buy mostly canned single ingresiant foods.
I am mostly stocking up on canned food and dry goods.rice sugar salt cocoa coffee tea.baking powder yeast. rice flour.
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Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: December 28 2007 at 11:09am
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dont 4get the toiletries=] ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:07pm
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aww this hasnt been used much either=[
time to start talking on these topics again=] ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: Rockhound
Date Posted: March 10 2008 at 5:13am
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Yes we need more on this kind of topic- good idea shareing- not that 2 way ass-anine back and forth bickering ------------- Will you let everbody in your house? |
Posted By: hachiban08
Date Posted: March 10 2008 at 7:16am
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yes very true cuz ppl keep arguing and digressing from the true severity of keeping things like preps up. ------------- Be prepared! It may be time....^_^v |
Posted By: heather0927
Date Posted: April 08 2008 at 11:54am
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Oh my gosh this forum is amazing!
Hey everyone, I'm 24 and just learned about the bird flu in one of my Biology classes last fall. I've done my own research and I can't believe (well I can believe) we haven't been warned more about this. Or maybe I just wasn't noticing enough news until now. Now I have a daughter of my own and our safety is my utmost concern! Anyway these prepping tools are such a life saver. I'm grateful to any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Heather
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Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: April 08 2008 at 12:54pm
Better late than never Heather..
 Glad you found us and welcome to the forum.
A
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Posted By: Penham
Date Posted: April 08 2008 at 2:46pm
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Welcome Heather! There is alot of good info here. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2008 at 4:38pm
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Welcome Heather. A child sure does give one a different look at the world.
I hope this fourm can help you start prepping. The Mormons have just started selling a "Starter Pack" of food for about 27.00. In this pack it also has information on what you need to store. The web site is www.ldscatalog.com. I am not Mormon but I watch their site because they sell everthing at their cost. If you have any questions please post them here because there are many people here that want to help others get prepared. Good luck. |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: April 08 2008 at 6:58pm
| Flumom are you sure you're not trying to scare people off? Out of all the prepping sites and you post a link to a religious fanatic site? I don't know about you sometimes Flumom. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2008 at 8:00pm
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Hey the Mormons are a little strange but they have been storing food since they arrived in Utah and almost starved over 100 years ago.
They have this storing food down. How do I know because a friend of ours is Mormon and they asked to use our dock at our business to distribute 10,000 5 gallon food buckets to one chuch. Guess what the buckets were unloaded and distributed in one afternoon. Four hours and not one bucket was left. These families store 1 years worth of food and many of them have 5-9 kids. So no Albert I am not trying to link Heather to a religious fanatic site I am trying to get her to a place that might give her some information. Check out Johnyray1's post about how much rice and beans to store. People are struggling out there as to how much to store for specific amounts of time. I always use information of people who have been doing something for much longer than I have and the Mormons are the ones that have been there and continue to do food storage in a huge number and quantity. |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 9:53am
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Posted By: quietprepr
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 12:19pm
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Albert, there used to be alot of info on storage, storage amount calculators, etc. on the provident living lds site. It is not there any more. I got alot of info from there when i was first starting to prep. Too bad they changed it. I don't see alot of useful info on there now. ------------- "Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival." - W. Edwards Deming |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 7:05pm
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For buying canned food with an indefinite shelf life, http://www.mredepot.com/servlet/the-Canned-Meats%2C-Cheese-%26-Butter/Categories - here is a good place to start.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 7:37pm
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Ok Albert maybe you can answer this question. I purchased some of the meat from MEdepot and why does this can meat last longer than the can chicken or roast beef I purchase from Sams Club?
The cans look the same and the cans I purchase from Sams Club have a two year use by date. I asked Albert but anyone can answer. Albert just jogged my memory about MEdepot and the can meat I purchased. |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 9:43pm
| I've personally never purchased anything from MREdepot as of yet, although the folks over there seem like good people. I believe the difference in shelf life comes down to the cooking process of the meat, and then the timing and temperatures used during the canning process. The Australian Red Feather cheese and butter apparently holds its' taste indefinitely, and they do in fact attribute that to their unique canning process. The canned meat you buy anywhere else will be safe to eat after it expires, but it will lose a lot of its flavor and appearance over time. There are companies that specialize in preserving the taste. |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 10:05pm
That lds mormon website is selling 6 cans of canned white rice for $30.00 with shipping. Now, why anyone would want "canned" rice, I have no idea. Since you can also buy 50lb bags of rice and beans at Costco for only $5.00, it seems like just another typical way for the church to try and raise money. Canned wheat? 
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Posted By: Tadeo
Date Posted: April 12 2008 at 1:41am
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I was fixing my boys flat tire today and realized that I will need another method of transportation when/if gas stations closed or gas becomes sparse. We each have a bicyle but not extra tubing, nor do I have a hand pump to air tires. So my next investment is to get extra tires, patches and a hand pump. We also have a kiddy cart that can attach to a bike so this will be great if we have to transport supplies. ------------- "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 12 2008 at 10:40am
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Great idea Tadeo. I am going to check my supplies on the bikes too. I have been looking for a cart for the garden it can double for this also so I will now look with this in mind.
Great ideas people I just love AFT! |
Posted By: Weeping Willow
Date Posted: April 13 2008 at 6:18pm
| hello everyone since joining in 2006 i have started buying everything we eat by the case and keep it rotated we have at least 3 case of everything we eat my small pantry is no for things we use every now and then it can be a hassle sometimes but i have found that by doing this we use are preps and keep it rotated so we only prep what we eat it has taken a while but min stock of any one thing is three case i keep an eye on the meats in cans that is hardest item we have in preps to keep up with |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 13 2008 at 10:09pm
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Albert I can tell you why they use canned wheat and rice. These people relly keep lots of food for a very long time for very large families.
Therefore, they keep everything in cans and even have shelving designed specially for these cans. It is amazing! The Mormons symbol is a bee hive and they are organized as such and keep their food just like bees do in case times get bad. Mormon beliefs are a little different but so are the Catholics and I was raised as a Catholic. We could all learn from these people they know how to prep. |
Posted By: Tadeo
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 3:46pm
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I just ordered two 35gm of Celox Hemostat. This past two weeks one of my boys has had two play accidents, with one requiring a trip to the hospital. Both accidents were some nasty cuts. I know the military uses this stuff for minor to severe cuts, punctures, etc. Anyhow, I figured this will be good stuff to have around the house in case of an emergency of if the shtf and treatment is not immediately available. The cheapest place I found was this: http://www.rescue-essentials.com/servlet/Categories?category=CELOX - http://www.rescue-essentials.com/servlet/Categories?category=CELOX
Also check their free items section. ------------- "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 7:21pm
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Thanks for the heads up I will be buying a couple of these too. I have a child and they can get hurt real fast.
I have worried about bleeding and this seems to fill the bill. |
Posted By: fab4
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 8:46pm
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Hi all,
- basic grains/beans/dehydrated fruit/veggies - one year's worth. Other canned/comfort foods. Beef jerky, nuts, coffee, chocolate, even hard candy for the kids. Alfalfa seeds
- for furry family members - dog&cat food, kitty litter,
- heirloom seeds.
- water: 55 gallon water barrel . 2 others already used to catch rainwater
- for personal safety - gloves, goggles, n95 masks, rubber boots.
- for cooking: grinder, coffee press, weber grill (for wood cooking), camp stove for propane cooking, water purifcation tablets, huge water filter,
- paper plates/bowls, disposable cups, forks, spoons, knives - my thinking is early on when we are not sure who is infected, we don't want to share utensils. I don't trust myself to sanitize them well enough.
- bleach, bleach and more bleach, vinegar, ammonia, baking soda (you can clean almost anything with these things)
- medical kit - basic stuff thats in all kits, plus betadyne, peroxide, immodium, pepto bismol, benedryl, temporary cavity filler.
- God forbid, but if I ever have to set up a "sick room/quarantine" room, I have plastic sheeting, duct tape, disposable surgial gowns, gloves, masks, caps, stethoscope, bp monitor (we already had these), rubber boots, small trash pails & liners, bed pan, disinfecting basins, disposable bed pads, lysol & bleach, CPAP machine (already have), separate thermometer, toiletries, medications, etc for sick patient. CPR manual, other bird flu manual I've found online. Very clear treatment/disinfectant instructions.
- If I set up a sick room, I will set up a safe room for non sick family members, using the same ideas of plastic sheeting and duct tape, plus a positive air pressure blower, and stock that room with 2 weeks supplies. This will put several barriers between the sick and well.
- medications: multivitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Lipitor.
- for power failures: hand crank radio, hand crank flashlights, solar power battery charger (charges laptop, cell phones) Reusable batteries and charger. Candles
- misc: installed outdoor clothes line, zero degree sleeping bags, air mattress
Need to get: Tamiflu, antibiotics, epipen, gun/ammo, plywood for boarding windows?, alarm system, chainsaw or cross-cut saw (for firewood),
I have more stuff related to camping - in case we have to bug out in our camper. A lot of the above plus book on foraging, wildlife first aid, bear repellant, snake bite kit, etc.
Need to get more of the following: toilet paper, papertowels, napkins. Toiletries, razors, feminine items.
- back up "cheapie" prescription glasses (zennioptical)
This is all I can think of at the moment.
Organizing it all is a different matter. I have several months food on hand, the rest will be hidden. I have a bin just for the sick room and adjoining disinfecting room, bags of goggles/masks/gloves in each car, first aid and bug out bucket in a location quick to get to. I keep trying to figure out what goes where, because so many things will need to be divided and go in different locations - i.e., the sick room will be stocked with vitamins as will the safe room.
I have a "plan that I will type up and instructions on where things are and steps to take if there is an imminent threat. Stress and lack of sleep can make a person foggy and forget what to do.
It may be overkill, but I am taking this threat very seriously.
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Posted By: fab4
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 8:48pm
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Oh yeah, I just added superglue to my medical kit - lots of people swear by it instead of stitches...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 10:07pm
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Hi fab4! I can tell you that my husband had a knee replacement last year and they glued the skin over his knee. No stiches or staples and at this time 1 year later you almost cannot see he even had an operation.
I am just not sure if the Dr's use the superglue we get at the grocery store or if there is a special superglue for surgery?? Anyone out there know the answer to this question. |
Posted By: SusanT
Date Posted: April 17 2008 at 12:19pm
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Just added Apple cider vinegar. Many medical uses:
http://vinegar.faithweb.com/about.html |
Posted By: Tadeo
Date Posted: April 19 2008 at 1:40am
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Just got my two 35g packets of Celox in the mail this morning. The packets are huge, so if anyone buys any may want to get the smaller 15g packets. It says on the packet that once you open and use you have to throw away the remaining contents. I told my wife that I pray that I may never open these. ------------- "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 10:39am
Thank you for the information. I have been looking at other products like Cleox and have discovered that Celox is the BEST. I will purchase the 15g packets. Where did you purchase yours from? I also found out that Dermabond is the glue that can be used to "stich" the skin together. I would not suggest that people use superglue that you get at the store. Dermabond is not cheap but it is specific to skin use. Keep the info coming it helps! |
Posted By: Tadeo
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 12:37pm
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FluMom, I searched around and found that this place was the cheapest: http://www.rescue-essentials.com/servlet/Categories?category=CELOX - http://www.rescue-essentials.com/servlet/Categories?category=CELOX I recieved my order within two days of buying. I went to their web site and got their 800 number and ordered over the phone. The company is located in Colorado somewhere. Also, if you get some don't forget to ask for the FREE 4" scissors. These are the medical kind that cuts through anything.
Shipping is a flat rate of $4.95 ------------- "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson. |
Posted By: Tadeo
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 12:47pm
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Actually I was wrong about that price. http://www.beyondbulbs.com - www.beyondbulbs.com was the cheapest at $13.95 for the 15g packets. For the 35g size packets then http://www.rescue-essentials.com - www.rescue-essentials.com will be the cheapest. I think beyondbulbs has a higher shipping rate whereas rescue was a flat $4.95 plus you get the free scissors.
I keep on updating here. Anyways, beyond bulbs shipping for the 15g is $8.95. Definetely go with rescue essentials. ------------- "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 10:21pm
Thank you Tadeo! You did find the cheapest 15g pkts, I saw one at 22.00. I will purchase from rescue - essentials. I found the skin glue it is called Dermabond not cheap 28.00 for one application but if you need it it is better and easier than having to do stiches. It is only good on straight cuts no ragged cuts so I'm not sure what I want to do yet. |
Posted By: Tadeo
Date Posted: April 21 2008 at 12:11am
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$28.00 bucks, YIKES! I wonder why one just can't use regular super glue for this? I also looked into getting a stitch kit but I would probably sew myself to someone. I'll look into this Dermabond. ------------- "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson. |
Posted By: fab4
Date Posted: April 21 2008 at 7:18am
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I haven't been able to find tons of info, the ingredients are very close. Dermabond is supposed to stay on longer, doesn't sting, and is sterile. What about the OTC Liquid Bandage? I haven't tried it - any opinions on that?
I read this is supposed to be for smaller cuts - not recommended for gaping or jagged wounds. Wound needs to be cleaned first, the edges pulled together then the glue applied.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 21 2008 at 4:29pm
I found the answer to my own question: Dermabond is what the Drs use. It is not cheap 28.00 per use and it must be a straight cut no jagged edge cuts. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 21 2008 at 4:31pm
| Ok I'm sick guys I answered my question twice. I need to sleep! |
Posted By: Ro2935
Date Posted: April 22 2008 at 2:07am
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For those people who have suture packs, do you know how to use them? if not now is the time to sacrifice a couple of packs and practice on some raw meat, [the sunday pork roast or chicken are perhaps the best], slice into it then stitch it, now remove the stitches [cut the thread close to the skin and then pull through the otherside, you dont want a lot of thread going under the skin when removing them, think introducing infection. [will try and find some picture diagrams on how to do all these and then post them]
Once you feel confident that you can suture the meat it is time to apply oil to the surface and your hands, Why? to simulate blood; now practice some more, not easy is it.
Ok now you are perfect at this, what happens if you are the one who is injured, who is going to stitch you up, make sure other people know how to use the medical kits as well.
If you have younger children in your group add a picture first aid book, yes they are basic but they may help your 8-12 year old save someones life. If there are first aid courses available in your area why not enrole the family, this is one prep that could save a family members life in an emergency.
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Posted By: fab4
Date Posted: April 22 2008 at 9:21am
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Speaking of sutures - when my son got them, they used some cream to numb the area topically - does anyone know what that cream is?
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Posted By: starspirit
Date Posted: April 27 2008 at 2:33pm
| I'm still stocking masks when I find them at the outlet store I shop.Have over 200 hundred now.I got 17 boxes of 3M 8511 N95 10 to a box for 5.99 a box they sell on line for around $18. a box.I was really happy.Of course the girls that work there wanted to know why buy so many the truth my husband has copd and works around chemicals.I don't tell them the whole true or all the good bargains I get for prepping there would be in their carts not mine.Survival. |
Posted By: Tadeo
Date Posted: April 28 2008 at 2:37am
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Why is that? If I buy a large amount of something I always get some cashier asking what it is for. Like, what the fudge is it their business what you are buying something for. Cashier's need to mind their own business or lose mine. ------------- "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson. |
Posted By: SusanT
Date Posted: April 28 2008 at 4:30am
| Starspirit, what kind of out let store has masks, if you don't mind me asking...I've paid full price for mine and I need to get some more. |
Posted By: SusanT
Date Posted: April 28 2008 at 5:48am
| Another prep I just remembered that will come in handy for many reasons...large rolls of plastic sheeting. I bought 6 - 100 ft rolls. A few possible uses I see are extending gardening season by making a makeshift greenhouse or just frost protection, insulating windows from drafts, and rain collection. It's cheap at Menards, and relatively small to store. |
Posted By: starspirit
Date Posted: April 28 2008 at 1:45pm
| The Bargain Factory its a close out,damage freight from insurance companies,job lots,unclaimed freight that sort of stuff ..This one is very clean not trashy.They have houseware items,food,over counter meds,books,toys,lawn and garden.It always changes so I go often..They have helped my preps alot.Been going there for 3years .Sorta like Big Lots but much much better, its smaller but great bargains.Got blue 7 gal water jugs for 6.99.Its a great place.They have 4 stores in the KC metro area.Look in yellow pages in your area for freight damaged store go check them out.Hopefully you'll find one that works for you. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 28 2008 at 2:43pm
Hachiban08, it sounds like you have a great start on your preps! congratulations on a well rounded collection, you'll be surprised how quickly a couple of cans a week add up.
Save your containers that juice comes in, rinse well and refill for your stored water. Have two gallons per day per person. There are blue fifty gallon barrels at Sams. Each barrel would give a person one months supply of emergency water filled from your tap. Just rotate ever six months. You go girl-good job.
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Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 8:51pm
We must be on the same wavelength - I just bought some plastic sheeting and a couple of big rolls of duct tape. I figured there has to be a million uses for it, and it'll probably hard to get in a pandemic.
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Posted By: Lwilliams
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 10:13am
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hello all, I've gotta say, this is much more than I have ever thought about. It amazes me how thorough you are. Very impressive. You gave me alot to think about as far as my prepardness goes ... Thanks  ------------- http://a1discountvitamins.com/ - discount Vitamins , health and body building supplements |
Posted By: SusanT
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 2:58pm
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It can be overwhelming at first. There is so much information on this site, if you are just starting out. Just start with the basics - a clean water source, food, heat, and self protection. If you have any questions, people here are always willing to help. Welcome to AFT!
Susan |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 8:39pm
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It gets easier, believe me. At first I think everyone finds it overwhelming, but if you follow SusanT's advice and work on the basics it makes it a little easier. You'll probably find yourself looking at everything from a prepping point of view - I know I do when I shop these days. Feel free to ask questions - I think most people are here to help. ------------- "Buy it cheap. Stack it deep" "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
Posted By: Levygoddess
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 8:46pm
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Dont forget to look around at what you may already have that may have another use...such as shelving...tools etc....When I look at some of the list I realize that I have alot of this stuff..and the stuff I dont have I get a little at a time.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 9:31pm
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I make lists and then as I purchase I cross off the stuff. The lists keep getting smaller and smaller.
I also purchase 1-3 items when I go to Sam's or Costco like TP, paper bowls, plates, kleenex, Paper towels ect... It is all one step at a time. I cross them off my list and it is one less thing for me to get. |
Posted By: abeamreach
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 4:11pm
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A thought to other 50+year olds.....especially those with sedentary jobs like me. We are going to be much more physically active than we are now. So I have added epsom salt for aches and sprains, stick on heat patches, hot water bottle, wrist, knee, ankle and back supports.
I was fortunate enough to be able to purchase a 15 acre property with well, trailer, 3 car garage and large storage building*. So I have added gardening tools, seeds, books/articles on gardening, hunting/trapping, bartering. Also more woodworking tools
 , lumber, nails, woodstove, axe, pullimhecomes shoveimhegoes, chainsaw (bar oil and 2cycle oil)Lots of extra prepping, but finally have room for my preps, and room for more preps than my cellar can accomodate, and I can get to my washer and dryer
 now.*from Housing and Urban Development.....google HUD, click on buy house, select state, pick county list and search. If you find something rural, plug address into official county real estate web site and you will find all the information on the property you need. Prices can be VERY reasonable.
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Posted By: Penham
Date Posted: August 26 2010 at 6:10pm
| Abeamreach, how exciting for you! When did you get settled on the new property? Were you able to start a garden this year? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 9:06pm
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Dang, abeamreach...if you are a man and not married I might try and find you...LOL! Do you live in Colorado??? It is hard to find other people who prep most would think we are all crazy.
I have been lazy in prepping and keeping track of things been busy with major surgery but after December I am going to hunker down and get organized. I am going to get in whole grain wheat in #10 cans and a hand/electic grinder. I believe we are going to have food shortages in the not to distant future and wheat will be very needed. We are going to have something happen just not sure if in my lifetime or my kid's. If I am alive in 10 and 20 years I will re-stock all my longterm as needed. My teen knowsI am prepping nut but smart enough to understand it could save his life some day. Guess, I am a life long prepper! |
Posted By: debbiencusa
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 5:30pm
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Couple hints, you may not drink coffee, drink alchohol, smoke cigarettes but these items become money to use to barter for needed items as time goes on and the ability to obtain tuna is almost non existant for example. Alchohol can also be used to clean a wound, anesthtesia if need be, it will excelerate a fire. Salt is also a good barter item. Someone said canning was not needed bc you can buy canned items, true however when you run out of the canned items, you will need to have a way to preserve the apples or dandilions etc so buy the jars and rings and a cheap how to book. ------------- God Bless |