Middle East Novel Corona Virus?
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Topic: Middle East Novel Corona Virus?
Posted By: nc_girl
Subject: Middle East Novel Corona Virus?
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 9:35am
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so have they admitted yet that this is h7n9 or not? Haven't heard much else about it but I'm convinced that their problem is the same one that China's got. Maybe that's why they can't find the source in China, cuz maybe it started somewhere else. Anyone got any ideas on this one? |
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 12:07am
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different virus , this one looks to have come from camels or bats , but hey!! who knows anything is possible at the moment, a reasortment of this coronavirus , H5N1,and H7N9, that that is not improbable, scary yes, virus dont play by the rules , tricky little blighters. ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 2:02am
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Numbers of this are up again (although very low compared to the "official" bird flu figures). "Five people in Saudi Arabia have died from a Sars-like virus and two more are seriously ill, officials say. The seven cases were all from al-Ahsa governorate in the east of the country, the Saudi news agency SPA said citing health officials." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22378541" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22378541 |
Posted By: justintime
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 3:55am
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Posted By: nc_girl
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 9:53am
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call me crazy but I still think that what's in the Middle East is the same h7n9 virus we're seeing in China. They are just too similar and the timing is too coincidental for my taste. The two viruses have too much in common also. Both are related to SARS, both cause quick death and the people die pretty much the same way. Both are new to humans and are corona viruses. I am thinking that maybe the reason they can't find the source in China is because it didn't start there. Just a theory but I'm sticking with it. |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 10:01am
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"The new virus is different from SARS, in that it causes rapid kidney failure". That's a little disturbing  ------------- "Buy it cheap. Stack it deep" "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
Posted By: Diligent
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 12:06pm
| Currently the ambient temperature range in Riyadh : daytime in the 90's F. and in the nightime the 70's F. |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 12:41pm
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Wow. Just shy of 70% CFR compared to SARS 11%. That's not something that H7N9 has shown itself capable of doing if the Chinese numbers can be believed. That's H5N1 territory, and with kidney failure showing up in it's victims too? Usually coronaviruses are not as much of a concern as flu because they mutate much slower, but this one already seems to be a prodigious killer of people, but fortunately still lacking the ability to easily spread. I found a reference to the WHO last November stating that genetically it most closely resembled a bat virus. Now, why does that sound familiar? ------------- "Buy it cheap. Stack it deep" "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
Posted By: nc_girl
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 1:14pm
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ok, maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. I'll sit back and watch. Hopefully all of these things will just die off on their on without ever becoming a pandemic. |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 1:42pm
I think you're right to be concerned, nc_girl. That's still a scary virus. I'm not familiar with the pandemic potential of a coronavirus because it seems to be assumed that influenza is the primary candidate by virtue of it's rapid mutation rate, but this is already killing as many of the infected as H5N1 does. If it were to develop efficient H2H transmissibilty with that kind of fatality rate it could well spark a pandemic. And this while H7N9 is spreading and H5N1 is still out there?  ------------- "Buy it cheap. Stack it deep" "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
Posted By: Yomi
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 3:51pm
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I last 2 months bad dreams and wake up not... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 8:45pm
| I keep saying there are too many people and mother nature is going to find a way to weed out people. It is just when not if! |