Rocketman makes more rockets......fooled again....
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Topic: Rocketman makes more rockets......fooled again....Posted By: carbon20
Subject: Rocketman makes more rockets......fooled again....
Date Posted: June 30 2018 at 1:44pm
North Korea likely making more nuclear bomb fuel despite Trump-Kim talks, report says
Posted about 6 hours ago
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-30/north-korea-fires-the-hwasong-15/9927916" rel="nofollow"> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-30/north-korea-fires-the-hwasong-15/9927916" rel="nofollow - - Pyongyang was testing increasingly powerful weapons prior to the June 12 summit.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-28/north-korea-nuclear-facilities-improvements-made-at-rapid-pace/9920374" rel="nofollow - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-15/kim-jong-un-is-a-trustworthy-person-says-korean-ambassador/9871640" rel="nofollow - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-16/what-are-the-wargames-that-donald-trump-is-looking-to-stop/9872130" rel="nofollow - US intelligence agencies believe North Korea has increased production of fuel for nuclear weapons at multiple secret sites in recent months and may try to hide these while seeking concessions in nuclear talks with the United States, NBC News has quoted US officials as saying.
Key points:
Unidentified US officials told NBC North Korea had stepped up production of enriched uranium
North Korea may have three or more secret nuclear sites
Mr Trump said last week North Korea was blowing up four of its big test sites
In a report on Friday, the American network said what it described as the latest US intelligence assessment appeared to go counter to sentiments expressed by President Donald Trump, who tweeted after an unprecedented June 12 summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un that "there is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea".
NBC quoted five unidentified US officials as saying that in recent months North Korea had stepped up production of enriched uranium for nuclear weapons, even as it engaged in diplomacy with the United States.
The US officials said the intelligence assessment concludes that North Korea has more than one secret nuclear site in addition to its known nuclear fuel production facility at Yongbyon.
"There is absolutely unequivocal evidence that they are trying to deceive the US," NBC quoted one official as saying.
The CIA declined to comment on the report. The State Department said it could not confirm it and did not comment on matters of intelligence.
The White House did not respond to a request for comment.
The report raises further questions about North Korea's readiness to enter serious negotiations about giving up a weapons program that now threatens the United States, in spite of Mr Trump's enthusiastic portrayal of the summit outcome.
NBC quoted one senior US intelligence official as saying that North Korea's decision ahead of the summit to suspend nuclear and missile tests was unexpected and the fact that the two sides were talking was a positive step.
However, he added: "Work is ongoing to deceive us on the number of facilities, the number of weapons, the number of missiles … We are watching closely."
'Disclosing some sites for denuclearisation while retaining others'
Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Non-proliferation Program at California's Middlebury Institute of International Studies, said there were two "bombshells" in the media report.
He said it had long been understood that North Korea had at least one undeclared facility to enrich nuclear fuel aside from Yongbyon.
"This assessment says there is more than one secret site. That means there are at least three, if not more sites," he said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-12/donald-trump-and-north-korea-leader-statement-after-meeting/9861688" rel="nofollow - Read the document in full
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-12/donald-trump-and-north-korea-leader-statement-after-meeting/9861688" rel="nofollow"> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-12/donald-trump-and-north-korea-leader-statement-after-meeting/9861688" rel="nofollow - The statement details the two leaders' plans to cooperate on denuclearisation and peace on the Peninsula.
Mr Lewis said the report also implied that US intelligence had reporting to suggest North Korea did not intend to disclose one or more of the enrichment sites.
"Together, these two things would imply that North Korea intended to disclose some sites as part of the denuclearisation process, while retaining others," he said.
North Korea agreed at the summit to "work toward denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula," but the joint statement signed by Mr Kim and Mr Trump gave no details on how or when Pyongyang might surrender its nuclear weapons.
Ahead of the summit, North Korea rejected unilaterally abandoning an arsenal it has called an essential deterrent against US aggression.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said last week he would likely go back to North Korea before long to try to flesh out commitments made at the Trump-Kim meeting.
On Thursday, the Financial Times quoted US officials as saying that Pompeo plans to travel to North Korea next week, but the State Department has declined to confirm this.
Bruce Klingner, a former CIA Korea expert now at the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank, said the NBC report showed Mr Trump's statement that North Korea was no longer a nuclear threat was "absurd" and that detailed work on a verification regime was required.
Mr Trump said last week North Korea was blowing up four of its big test sites and that a process of "total denuclearization … has already started," but officials said there had been no such evidence since the summit.
This week, Washington-based North Korean monitoring project 38 North said recent satellite imagery showed North Korea had made rapid improvements to facilities at Yongbyon since May 6, but it could not say if such work had continued after June 12.
------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖
Marcus Aurelius
Replies: Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: June 30 2018 at 8:57pm
^As if there were any doubts?
Just wait until Putin gets done with Trump in Helsinki!
------------- CRS, DrPH
Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: July 07 2018 at 7:04am
Secretary of State Pompeo leaves North Korea with promise of more talks but no tangible breakthrough
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 07 2018 at 1:50pm
North Korea says talks with US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo were 'regrettable'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-07/both-sides-seek-to-clarify-on-day-two-of-pompeos-pyongyang-visit/9953504" rel="nofollow - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-30/believes-n-korea-making-more-nuclear-bomb-fuel-us-intelligence/9927908" rel="nofollow - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-14/us-aiming-for-north-korea-disarmament-by-end-donald-trump-term/9868038" rel="nofollow - High-level talks between the United States and North Korea have appeared to hit a snag as Pyongyang said a visit by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had been "regrettable" and accused Washington of making "gangster-like" demands to pressure the country into abandoning its nuclear weapons.
Key points:
North Korea said the talks could "rattle our willingness for denuclearisation"
In a statement North Korea said the US betrayed the spirit of last month's summit
The trip was Mr Pompeo's third to Pyongyang
The statement from the North came just hours after Mr Pompeo wrapped up two days of talks with senior North Korean officials without meeting North Korean leader Kim Jong Un but with commitments for new discussions on denuclearisation and the repatriation of the remains of American soldiers killed during the Korean War.
While Mr Pompeo offered a relatively positive assessment of his meetings, North Korea's Foreign Ministry said in a statement the US betrayed the spirit of last month's summit between President Donald Trump and Mr Kim by making "unilateral and gangster-like" demands on "CVID," or the complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearisation of North Korea.
It said the outcome of the follow-up talks was "very concerning" because it has led to a "dangerous phase that might rattle our willingness for denuclearisation that had been firm."
"We had expected that the US side would offer constructive measures that would help build trust based on the spirit of the leaders' summit ... we were also thinking about providing reciprocal measures," said the statement, released by an unnamed spokesman and carried by the North's official Korean Central News Agency.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-12/donald-trump-and-north-korea-leader-statement-after-meeting/9861688" rel="nofollow - Read the document in full
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-12/donald-trump-and-north-korea-leader-statement-after-meeting/9861688" rel="nofollow"> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-12/donald-trump-and-north-korea-leader-statement-after-meeting/9861688" rel="nofollow - The statement details the two leaders' plans to cooperate on denuclearisation and peace on the Peninsula.
"However, the attitude and stance the United States showed in the first high-level meeting (between the countries) was no doubt regrettable," the spokesman said.
"Our expectations and hopes were so naive it could be called foolish."
According to the spokesman, during the talks with Pompeo the North raised the issue of a possible declaration to formally end the 1950-53 Korean War, which concluded with an armistice and not a peace treaty.
It also offered to discuss the closure of a missile engine test site that would "physically affirm" a move to halt the production of intercontinental range ballistic missiles and setting up working-level discussions for the return of US war remains.
However, the spokesman said the United States came up with a variety of "conditions and excuses" to delay a declaration on ending the war.
The spokesman also downplayed the significance of the United States suspending its military exercises with South Korea, saying the North made a larger concession by blowing up the tunnels at its nuclear test site.
In criticising the talks with Mr Pompeo, however, the North carefully avoided attacking the President, saying "we wholly maintain our trust toward President Trump," but also that Washington must not allow "headwinds" against the "wills of the leaders".
In comments to reporters before leaving Pyongyang, Mr Pompeo said his conversations with senior North Korean official Kim Yong Chol had been "productive," conducted "in good faith" and that "a great deal of progress" had been made in some areas.
He stressed "there's still more work to be done" in other areas, much of which would be done by working groups that the two sides have set up to deal with specific issues.
Mr Pompeo said a Pentagon team would be meeting with North Korean officials on or about July 12 at the border between North and South Korea to discuss the repatriation of remains and that working level talks would be held soon on the destruction of North Korea's missile engine testing facility.
In the days following his historic June 12 summit with Kim Jong Un in Singapore, Mr Trump announced the return of the remains and the destruction of the missile facility had been completed or were in progress.
Mr Pompeo, however, said more talks were needed on both.
https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/ckgj73ey2ymt/north-korea-missile-tests" rel="nofollow - North Korea missile tests
North Korea has accused the US of using "gangster-like" tactics to push it towards nuclear disarmament after a fresh round of high-level talks.
It branded the US attitude at the meeting as "extremely troubling".
The statement, by an unnamed foreign ministry official, gave a starkly different account from one provided by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo just hours before.
He had said progress was made during his two-day visit to Pyongyang.
It is the first time he has visited North Korea since a summit between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un in Singapore.
The leader's meeting ended with a promise from Mr Kim to work towards denuclearisation, but details on how this will be achieved remain thin.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40871848" rel="nofollow - North Korea crisis in 300 words
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44679144" rel="nofollow - Is North Korea sticking with its nukes?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44450000" rel="nofollow - Did the summit rhetoric match reality?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44453334" rel="nofollow - The summit's oddest moments
A key aim of Mr Pompeo during his visit was to firm up North Korea's commitment to disarmament.
But the North Korean statement, carried by the official KCNA news agency, said the US had gone against the spirit of the summit by putting unilateral pressure on the country to abandon its nuclear weapons.
"We had anticipated the US side would come with a constructive idea, thinking we would take something in return," the North Korean statement said, warning its "resolve for denuclearisation... may falter".
"The US is fatally mistaken if it went to the extent of regarding that [North Korea] would be compelled to accept, out of its patience, demands reflecting its gangster-like mindset," it added.
'Great deal of progress'
At the talks, Mr Pompeo did not meet with Mr Kim, but instead with Kim Yong-chol, who is seen as his right-hand man.
In his assessment Mr Pompeo gave little away, but he said they had discussed at length a timeline for disarmament, including the destruction of a missile engine testing facility.
"These are complicated issues, but we made progress on almost all of the central issues, some places a great deal of progress, other places there's still more work to be done," he said.
After the Singapore summit, which also saw the US offer "security guarantees" to North Korea and promise to end its military drills with South Korea, Mr Trump claimed that the North no longer posed a nuclear threat.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44584957" rel="nofollow - However, the president has since renewed sanctions on North Korea , while US intelligence officials have said there is evidence North Korea continues to upgrade the infrastructure for its nuclear and missile programmes.
A state department spokesperson said Mr Pompeo had been "very firm" in focusing on denuclearisation, as well as on security assurances and another important US demand - the return of remains of US service personnel from the Korean War.
As Saturday's meeting got under way Kim Yong-chol joked that Mr Pompeo may not have slept well during his overnight stay at a guesthouse in Pyongyang. Mr Pompeo said he "slept just fine".
On Sunday, the US secretary of state will meet the foreign ministers of Japan and South Korea in Tokyo.
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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's negotiations over the weekend were even
more confirmation that the president and his administration have little
grasp of what they're doing
HUMILIATED AND EMPTY HANDED
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 09 2018 at 2:15pm
"but we shook hands on it " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DUMB AND DUMBER.........................
------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖
Marcus Aurelius
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 09 2018 at 2:37pm
U.S. President Donald Trump suggested on Monday that Beijing might be seeking to derail efforts aimed atdenuclearisingNorth Korea, but added that he was confident that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un would uphold a pact the two agreed on last month.
Washington and Pyongyang have presented differing views in recent days on progress on denuclearisation following a Trump-Kim summit in June. On Monday, Trump suggested that China, North Korea's chief ally, might be interfering in reaction to the Trump administration's stance on U.S.-China trade.
"I have confidence that Kim Jong Un will honor the contract we signed &, even more importantly, our handshake. We agreed to the denuclearisation of North Korea," Trump wrote on Twitter. "China, on the other hand, may be exerting negative pressure on a deal because of our posture on Chinese Trade-Hope Not!"
U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo concluded two days of talks with North Korean officials in Pyongyang on Saturday and said denuclearisation talks with North Korea would be difficult.
North Korea, however, issued a harsh characterization of the negotiations, raising questions about the future talks as U.S. officials seek an end to Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program.
Following the June 12 meeting with Trump in Singapore, Kim made a broad agreement to "work toward denuclearisation" of the Korean Peninsula. But no details were announced on how or when the reclusive state would dismantle its nuclear program.
------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖
Marcus Aurelius
Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 3:05pm
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/11/1779698/-Kim-Jong-Un-snubbed-Mike-Pompeo-for-something-more-important-a-visit-to-a-potato-farm" rel="nofollow - Kim Jong Un snubbed Mike Pompeo for something more
does ANYONE in the Trump cabinet know what they are doing ???????????????????????????
talk about getting played !!!
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: July 11 2018 at 8:20pm
CNN: North Korea satellite images show missile plant construction, analysts say.
------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖
Marcus Aurelius
Posted By: Satori
Date Posted: July 12 2018 at 9:52am
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/12/1779905/-North-Korea-snubs-United-States-on-talks-over-returning-war-dead" rel="nofollow - North Korea snubs United States on talks over returning war dead
Trumpsters were quick claim that his trip to NK was a huge success and diplomatic breakthrough
but now ??????
United States negotiators were left cooling their heels at the DMZ on
Thursday, as North Korean officials failed to show up for a scheduled
meeting on plans to return the bodies of soldiers missing since the
Korean War. The North Korean no-show follows Kim Jong Un skipping
scheduled talks with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/11/1779698/-Kim-Jong-Un-snubbed-Mike-Pompeo-for-something-more-important-a-visit-to-a-potato-farm" rel="nofollow - to visit a potato farm . Overall, North Korean actions seem determined to belittle the United States and slow down the progress of any agreement.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-korean-officials-no-show-for-meeting-about-us-troop-remains/2018/07/12/9624d114-85ae-11e8-8589-5bb6b89e3772_story.html?utm_term=.d4f1875dab5c" rel="nofollow - As the Washington Post reports …
“We were ready,” the [U.S.] official said. “It just didn’t happen. They didn’t show.”
Trump has been PROVEN the incompetent FOOL that he is
the leader of the free world has been PLAYED by a fourth rate disaster of a country
and Trump does NOTHING in response
------------- “The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” Gary Kasparov
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: August 05 2018 at 10:49pm
North Korea has not stopped nuclear and missile programs, UN experts report
North Korea has not stopped its nuclear and missile programs and is violating U.N. sanctions including by “a massive increase in illicit ship-to-ship transfers of petroleum products,” U.N. experts said in a new report.