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Risks of Getting Flu Vaccine Too Early.

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Scary tale, Carbon! Of course, it will not make it to the statistics as she lived.


Although where the seatbelts are concerned, I agree with your son, FluMom, I think those who wish to risk it should have the freedom to do so (not me - a seatbelt definitely saved my life a few years ago when we came off the road in the snow) as it is only their own life they risk.

But not for the flu jab. Unvaccinated people spread a bug that kills others. Believing in freedom, however strongly, does not stretch quite that far. I would agree with the arrest of someone driving dangerously, firing an automatic weapon in a crowd, neglecting food hygene laws or dropping rocks off of motorway (freeway, autobahn) bridges onto trafic below - all risking other peoples lives. Avoiding the vaccination risks other people's lives, along with your own. I expect arrest for "reckless endangerment" is a step too far, but it is a deeply imoral act anyway. Visible or not, they have blood on their hands.
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[I know I am harping on about this (and I disagree with this doc, in that the jab does carry some (tiny) risk and C,D & zinc do boost immune systems a lot) but it is just so important! The flu jab saves lives.]
Sep 30, 2018, 06:09am
You Should Get Your Flu Shot And Ignore This Supplement Advice
Bruce Y. Lee
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If you are 6 months or older, get the flu vaccine. That's the recommendation of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) unless you have a true life threatening allergy to the flu vaccine or its components. If you are younger than 6 months and can read this, congratulations because you are remarkable.

If you think you may have an allergy, talk to your doctor. It may not really be an allergy.

Yes, the flu vaccine is not perfect. Its effectiveness in reducing your risk of the flu tends to range between 30% and 60%, depending on how well the strains in the vaccine match the circulating strains and how nasty the circulating strains are that year. But besides really good sushi, nothing is perfect in life. As they say, perfect is the enemy of good.

Beware of the myths about the flu vaccine floating around like the flu virus. No, the flu vaccine cannot give you the flu. If you happened to get the flu after the flu vaccine, that is called an unfortunate coincidence. No, getting the flu vaccine is not worse than getting the flu. Getting a needle stuck in your arm or something sprayed up your nose is not worse than the flu, which can knock you out for many days or even kill you regardless of how healthy you may be. No, the vaccine is not dangerous. Nothing in life is 100% safe but the vaccine has been tested extensively and each year many, many people get the vaccine without significant problems. No, getting the flu shot one year doesn't protect you in subsequent years. That would be like saying that you don't need to change your underwear. The circulating strains tend to change each year, and the protection that a flu vaccine offers wanes over time. Get a new flu shot every year and please change your underwear much more frequently than annually.

Why then do some people tell you to not to get the flu vaccine? After all, there is currently no better way of protecting yourself against the influenza virus. Well, let's look at a recent Tweet:
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Dr. Joseph Mercola @mercola

Think twice before having yourself or your child vaccinated against the flu. It's better to opt for natural ways to avoid the flu such as optimizing your vitamin D level, increasing your intake of vitamins B1 and C, and more. http://ow.ly/5pYj30lXmfI

12:01 PM - Sep 28, 2018
Flu Shot: Potential Side Effects and Dangers
Findings have shown that flu vaccines may not be as effective as perceived, and that they may lead to negative health consequence

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This Tweet seems to suggest that vitamins and "more" can somehow take the place of the flu shot in preventing the flu. Following the accompanying link brings you to a web page authored by a Joseph Mercola, DO, who claims that "There Are Better Ways to Protect Yourself From the Flu" than the flu vaccine. He writes, "if you want to be protected from influenza, consider practice immune system-boosting strategies that may help shield your body against flu-causing agents. Optimizing vitamin D levels, increasing vitamins B1 and C intake, or taking zinc lozenges when initial flu symptoms appear are known to work better than vaccines in addressing the disease before it worsens." And what does Mercola happen to sell? Vitamins and supplements. Lots of them, as can be seen on his web page. Hmmmm.

What evidence does he provide that these vitamins and supplements can protect you against the flu? He cites 4 papers but does not explain or go into detail how exactly these papers support his assertions. None of these papers really proves that vitamins or other supplements can prevent the flu or work better than the flu vaccine. In fact, one of the papers he cites, published in the journal Epidemiology and Infection, clearly states "it is premature to recommend vitamin D for either the prevention or treatment of viral respiratory infections." Oh, snap. First rule of citing a paper to support your point of view: read that paper carefully.

When someone tells you to avoid vaccines like the flu vaccine, look carefully at what that person happens to be selling. One has to wonder how many anti-vaccination campaigns are actually driven by those with ulterior motives or hidden agendas. Are they really trying to sell you an "alternative" to the flu vaccine like some pill, some plant, some way to crack your back, or some other wellness mumbo-jumbo? Or are they trying to sow discord, as in the case of Russian bots? If you are going to rely on bots to get health advice, you may as well have a newborn infant be your doctor.

It's one thing to convince you that your life will change for the better if you buy that shirt that looks like a potato sack. It's completely different to steer you away from something that can protect your life. The latter is irresponsible. Last year, the flu killed around 80,000 people. While that was an exceptionally bad flu season, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that prior to last season, in recent years, annual influenza-associated deaths in the United States have ranged from a low of 12,000 (during 2011-2012) to a high of 56,000 (during 2012-2013). That same report estimates that "influenza vaccination during the 2015-2016 influenza season prevented an estimated 5.1 million illnesses, 2.5 million medical visits, 71,000 hospitalizations, and 3,000 (pneumonia and influenza) deaths." Snake oil may be harmless when you are dealing with squeaky snakes but not with a major health risk.

So get your flu shot now (October is typically the best month). And be skeptical about anyone who tells you otherwise.

I’ve been in the worlds of business, medicine, and global and public health. And these worlds are a lot more similar and different than you think. Currently, I am an Associate Professor of International Health at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Executive


Source:   https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2018/09/30/you-should-get-your-flu-shot-and-ignore-this-supplement-advice/#68b842c864c0
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