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-A look at [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ for nov 24. A relative low number of reported positive tested Covid19 cases-maybe weekend related-just over 543.000 new cases. Over 175.000 of them-almost 1/3-from the US (!!!!!!). In new Covid deaths we see a record number of over 11.700-most likely there were less deaths reported the days before-so most likely this high number-in part-is a correction. 

[url]https://innovationorigins.com/corona-in-europe-second-wave-shifting-to-the-east/[/url] or https://innovationorigins.com/corona-in-europe-second-wave-shifting-to-the-east/ In Europe Covid increases move east. Though western European countries do still see high numbers. Ireland, Norway and Finland doing OK-rest not so good.

I do not see (yet) a new Peak Prosperity video. Dr. John Campbell has two video's on Australia [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTPtM6LzqU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTPtM6LzqU is one of them...a long one. Australia is at #95 in the worldometers total cases list. Australia, like New Zealand, Ireland, Iceland, Israel should be able to keep cases down due to being a (sort of) island. 

This pandemic is a major problem for countries more central (US, EU, Brazil, India) with lots of international contacts. Yes there are vaccines-but it will take months before they effect this pandemic. The public will to accept even some rules and restrictions in many places is limited. Spread in children and teenagers is a main motor for this pandemic. Closing schools is a hard decision. If we want to-finally-get this pandemic under control we have to stop taking halve measures....!

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[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/urgent-all-military-aircraft-transponders-turned-off-in-eastern-mediterranean-sea[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/urgent-all-military-aircraft-transponders-turned-off-in-eastern-mediterranean-sea

Something seems to be "up."   All military U.S. and Allied aircraft in the eastern Mediterranean Sea have turned OFF their air traffic flight transponders.  Put simply "they've gone dark."

This is unusual insofar as the military is keenly aware of the need for civilian aviation to be able to track military aircraft so as to avoid collisions.

This type of "going dark is __usually__ (but not always) hint of a pending major air strike.  But BY whom and AGAINST whom are the big questions.

DJ-Pompeo meeting the saudi crown prince and netanyahu last sunday in NW Saudi Arabia was on Iran. My impression is that the trump-administration wants to make a new Iran-deal impossible. Most likely by a "limited strike" big enough to do damage to Iran's nuclear programm-the idea is that such an attack would not "give Iran reasons for counter attacks". Any Iran reaction would be seen as Iran agression-and a Biden problem...

[url]https://southfront.org/saudi-arabia-receives-dangerous-gifts/[/url] or https://southfront.org/saudi-arabia-receives-dangerous-gifts/ 

[url]https://southfront.org/saudi-arabia-admits-that-houthi-missile-struck-its-oil-facility-on-red-sea-coast-video-map/[/url] or https://southfront.org/saudi-arabia-admits-that-houthi-missile-struck-its-oil-facility-on-red-sea-coast-video-map/ 

DJ-There was another Israeli attack on Syria [url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-ministry-of-defense-releases-state-on-israeli-attack-in-southwest-syria/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-ministry-of-defense-releases-state-on-israeli-attack-in-southwest-syria/ 

[url]https://www.rt.com/russia/507713-us-navy-mccain-incursion-vladivostok/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/russia/507713-us-navy-mccain-incursion-vladivostok/ The US does not accept the Russian borders in the pacific....

Climate collapse;

[url]http://www.thebigwobble.org/2020/11/australia-was-hoping-for-wet-summer.html[/url] or http://www.thebigwobble.org/2020/11/australia-was-hoping-for-wet-summer.htmlHowever, with Summer still a while away, Sydney temperatures are set to soar over the weekend as NSW is headed for an early heatwave with temperatures inching toward the 50 deg C, (122 deg F) mark bringing with it the threat of another early start to another wildfire season.

and [url]http://www.thebigwobble.org/2020/11/climate-changed-its-broken-and-we-have.html[/url] or http://www.thebigwobble.org/2020/11/climate-changed-its-broken-and-we-have.html 

Music; It's the end-the Buffoons [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUKooDRRtE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUKooDRRtE 

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When the temperature hits 40c in Sydney it's unbearable......hot.....and humid

Not so bad here,we have a low humidity.....

I quite like 40c......in the shade with an ice cold James Boag lager( Tasmanian brewery)lol

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carbon20-Enjoy the moment-nice weather is nice weather...20C in January is nice...also crazy for NL..still nice...

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Let me start with a more critical article on vaccines. [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/what-covid-vaccine-hype-fails-mention[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/what-covid-vaccine-hype-fails-mention ;  An estimate of the number to treat from the Moderna trial to prevent a single “case” would be fifteen thousand vaccinations to prevent ninety “cases” or 167 vaccinations per “case” prevented which does not sound nearly as good as 94.5 percent effective.

also; The reasons for hesitancy are that the uncertainties about safety exceed what they perceive to be a small benefit. In other words, my colleagues would prefer to take their chances with covid rather than beta test the vaccine. Many of my colleagues want to see the safety data after a year of use before getting vaccinated; these colleagues are concerned about possible autoimmune side effects that may not appear for months after vaccination.

or; Based on what we know, the covid vaccine may require two shots every three to six months to be protective. The more shots required, the greater the risk of side effects from sensitization to the vaccine.

Vaccines may need up to six weeks to get effective-so a timeline=vaccination1-three/four weeks-vaccination2-six weeks effect-nine/ten weeks 2,5 months-before vaccine does its job (at best) 

DJ-I do understand we need to get out of this pandemic. There is a safe way out-NPI ! Lots of countries did get Covid19 under control without vaccines !!!! Some "Big Pharma" do everything for profit-if one can get Covid19 under control without these "types" you have to do so ! 

-But we are not. Today will be another mega-spread event-thanksgiving in the US. With all US states the (real) R0 >1 and no NPI on a national level. 

The november 25 numbers [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ .

 -Yesterday we did cross the 60 million global cases. The daily new cases have an upward trend-january 1-21 we will have a 100 million cases...

 -The US had almost (108 out of 609K) 1/3 of all new cases. The trend is towards 1/4 of all global cases will be US cases (now 13 out of 60 million). 

 -Sad to see 1,5 million deaths very likely early december-the over 12.000 reported Covid19 deaths yesterday is another record number. Trend is upward-2 million deaths by Christmas ? 

 -India and Brazil (a.o.) moving towards a second wave-with both cases and deaths going up. 

 -Less then 1% of the global population tested positive (forget about herd immunity)

DJ-The will to go for strict NPI (Non Pharma Interventions-like masks, lockdowns, social distancing etc.) is decreasing-people would love to believe "vaccines" will end the pandemic (like CO2 "vacuumcleaners will save the climate). Vaccines will make a difference-but there are limits. If-indeed-most of the vaccines would need to be repeated every 3 to 6 months-to be effective we may be buying time...

Denmark claims the "cluster 5 cases" in humans (from Covid19 infected minks-making vaccines less effective) was very limited and stopped. The same mutation showed up in Dutch minks-there it did not spread-as far as is tested and made public-to humans. With increasing cases the risks for mutations and spread to other animals grows. 

To be very realistic and hard; THIS PANDEMIC IS FAR FROM OVER !!!!!!

Governments should increase international cooperation to exchange test results, new findings. Vaccines can help but it will have to be NPI that stop Covid19. 

To get rid of this pandemic is possible but it will take years-not months !!!!! We as humans will have to change the way we live-decrease social contacts by 90+%-for a longer time-to beat Covid19. If we had done more earlier we could be out of the problem by now. 

It is good to see many countries have Covid19 under control-there should be as good as no travel between those countries and those that failed to get Covid19 under control. East Asia, Australia/New Zealand can have a "less abnormal" way of living than most European, other Asian or American countries. 

We have to "rethink" global economy and move towards a "global crisis economy". First things first-trying to keep damage limited. Get every human a house, food and drink-if possible keep a sort of economy going. (Grow your own food if you can etc. e-learning/producing). 

There is not even a start for this "new crisis economy"-politics want to move back to the "old abnormal" that did bring us this crisis. 

From time to time there is news on climate collapse on this forum. Not enough action is bringing us close to extinction. I see a growing similarity with the Covid19-crisis-a mix of denial and helf measures making things worse-not better. 

Dr.John Campbell with his view [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt-RHHOMl2g[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt-RHHOMl2g Culture in US,UK, France...

-Thanksgiving will be a US superspreader...(DJ-Also increase risks for flu ?)

-Most likely worldwide-A lot of decisions on municipality/city/region level-barber, restaurant closed in one region but open in the next=spread

-Increasing testing does not help if there is not enough contact tracing (capacity)...(In NL some labs running out of testing materials..)

-UK (Germany, France etc) some extra room for christmas/new year-since people will visit eachother anyway-will increase spread/surge.

Dr.J.C. on the Oxford vaccine [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAvnAkAMmmM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAvnAkAMmmM (They find out by accident that starting with a half dose increased the effectivity..)

WAR

Can we make this crisis much worse fast ? Yes we can ! [url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israel-braces-for-potential-trump-strike-on-iran-axios/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israel-braces-for-potential-trump-strike-on-iran-axios/ 

[url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-tells-us-to-immediately-withdraw-troops-from-syria/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-tells-us-to-immediately-withdraw-troops-from-syria/ 

DJ-Again-without World War I the "Spanish Flu" would have been (very) limited-not killing between 2 to 5% of the global population (1917-1923-most pandemics take a few years). [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/11/israel-is-again-pushing-for-an-attack-on-iran.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/11/israel-is-again-pushing-for-an-attack-on-iran.html 

[url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/reported-israeli-air-strikes-kill-8-pro-iranian-fighters-in-rural-damascus-and-quneitra/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/reported-israeli-air-strikes-kill-8-pro-iranian-fighters-in-rural-damascus-and-quneitra/

A war with Iran is a war between US-Saudi&co-Israel (USI) and Russia-Iran-China (RIC). Such a war will dwarf the Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen wars the west started earlier-and can not win. Those wars already created the largest refugee crisis since World War II. 

We live in interesting times-I watch events hoping I am wrong-I hate to be correct on so many aspects...

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-Another look at [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ ;

 -No new records in both new cases and deaths-still high numbers

 -Germany crossed the 1 million cases, Poland and Iran will be next early december

-Allthough the US is #1 in both total cases and deaths-the numbers per 1mln correct the image-for now. (Cases#12 Deaths#9)

DJ-My impression is the US will see a worsening of this pandemic more then most European countries. Thanksgiving, lack of agreement on NPI-rules will increase the US numbers more.

Dr.John Campbell with another update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z5C5qAwf20[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z5C5qAwf20 

-Hardly any flu around (and some of the flu is "B"-flu spread less easy), rhino-cold-virus is widespread

-US-CDC statistics do not look good. Hospital cases (in early november CDC does not publish fresher data) almost as high as during spring. Deaths will follow increases in cases. 

-Thanksgiving in US compared with Spring Festival in China this february-making the pandemic situation much worse. (DJ-The thanksgiving-spread will not only stay in the US-there is still a lot of (military) travel around the globe. Christmas will also increase the global pandemic...)

-Dr.J.C. vaccines are light at the end of the tunnel but we are not there yet !!! (DJ-Most vaccines need TWO vaccinations three/four weeks between them-then six weeks after the last vaccination one is supposed to be protected-that makes 63-70 days after first vaccination ! We still have to find out in practice, the real world-how much difference (mass) vaccination can make. On the short term NPI has to do the job-later on next year (this year has less then 40 days left..) we may see some effects-decrease of new cases. But that is at least several months away-maybe even a year from now !!!)

-In the UK (lockdown in a lot of places) cases go down very slowly (DJ-In NL, Germany cases decreased also to go up again-even with restrictions). R0 in UK (NL) around 1. (DJ-In the NL news the RIVM (Dutch CDC) is not at all optimistic on christmas and new year in NL. People will get infected at christmas and themselves start spreading it by the new year-schools reopening early january will worsen that third wave...)

-Dr.J.C. stresses mental health part-if people need help ask for help ! DJ-A lot of changes going on and on their way. The economic fall out of this pandemic in most places will show up in 2021-if people reach out (on the internet) they can find help, support from people in the same situation.

DJ-I think Dr.J.C. may be a bit optimistic on how fast vaccines can make a change. We are very lucky if a decrease in cases summer 21-more ventilation, vitamin D etc. gets helped by the vaccines to kick out Covid19. We WILL get there-most likely in 2021-but to avoid false hopes I (DJ) think you have to stay realistic.

No Peak Prosperity video-again..or am I missing it, renamed or so ? 

[url]https://www.debka.com/new-covid-infection-crosses-1000-mark-yet-15-israeli-malls-reopen-for-black-friday/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/new-covid-infection-crosses-1000-mark-yet-15-israeli-malls-reopen-for-black-friday/ 

WAR

-[url]https://southfront.org/asymmetrical-strikes-between-iran-and-israel/[/url] or https://southfront.org/asymmetrical-strikes-between-iran-and-israel/ DJ-I doubt this story. Yemen forces most likely use missiles when they can. The Saudi"coalition" has air superiority-the Houthi's have limited chance to store missiles for usage on Iran demand. Most likely Iran will provide (some) help-but there is a blockade-both sea and air routes to Yemen are under Saudi (&Co) control. It may be KSA/UAE elements support Yemen from the Arab peninsula...

What would trump gain by starting a war with Iran now ? In the eyes of some it may be "now or never". Both trump and netanyahu are very pro-war. Any next president/PM will be less likely to start such a war. Iran will get better protection (from Russia, China and others-the EU is willing to stick to the Iran-deal, India may buy Iran oil). 

Also trump would like to create an impossible position for president Biden as he can...

Climate chaos;

[url]http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2020/11/there-is-no-time-to-lose.html[/url] or http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2020/11/there-is-no-time-to-lose.html

Music [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG6PUNpPuqk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG6PUNpPuqk Earth & Fire-Love of Life


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-Again [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ - no record numbers, still very high numbers for friday nov.27. Over 613.000 new cases worldwide-around 25% of them in the US 164.012. Worldwide 10.818 deaths. The US has 21,7% of all tested cases worldwide, 18,7% of all Covid deaths. 

Europe-as a continent-has 16,727,106 cases-the US-as a State-has 13,454,254 cases. In deaths ALL of Europe has 382,426 deaths, the US has 271,026 deaths. Europe has a population of 747,636,026, the US population is 331,796,277. 

-Another look at the statistics is "turning the tables upside down"-Samoa, Vanuatu are doing "the best" in total cases both having just 1 case. There may be some remote regions not seeing any case, or reporting a case (North Korea) but they are not on the list. 

Laos is the first bigger country-population over 7 million-at #18-39 cases of wich 15 active...no deaths. 

Taiwan at #42-population of 23,8 million-639 cases 77 still active-7 deaths !

Vietnam at #54-population of 97,695,595-1339 cases-134 still active-35 deaths...

New Zealand at #59-population 5.002.100-2047 cases-66 still active-25 deaths...

Thailand is at #70,  Cuba at #95, Baltic States, Finland between #100-125, Australia at #126, Norway at #130 Japan #173 Sweden at #185-The UK at #214, US at #220 (and last). Of course the "total cases" does not put that number in relation to population. 

When you turn the cases per million "upside down" #1 and 2 are ships-#3=Vanuatu, #4=Samoa, #5=Laos then at #6=Tanzania DJ-how good is testing there ?-#7=Vietnam, #9 Cambodia, #12=Taiwan #15=Thailand #17=China (PRC), 

(Other) Islands like  (a.o.) Grenada#41, Mauritius#43,Madagascar#52, Comoros#55 and Cuba#56, Haiti#60, Barbados#64 show being an island offers some protection. 

A look at [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/these-are-best-and-worst-places-live-during-coronavirus-era[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/these-are-best-and-worst-places-live-during-coronavirus-era has to be seen in the perspective I give above. To be honest I'd rather spent my time on a tropical island during this pandemic then in a crowded country with lots of restrictions...

Dr.John Campbell with another update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w26BEGHgqa4[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w26BEGHgqa4 lots of info under the video

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/11/the-vaccine-competition-will-be-ruthless.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/11/the-vaccine-competition-will-be-ruthless.html DJ Competition in vaccines is bad news. As mentioned elsewere on this forum volunteers stopping in other test programms to have a chance on getting the "fastest ready" vaccines is unwise. The total lack of any international government regulation-only giving almost unlimited tax money to private companies working on a vaccine is-again-asking for problems. Both Moderna and Pfizer work for profit and do not want to share their knowledge. AstraZeneca/Oxford was ready to start production in 20 countries-you have to have mass production of a lot of different vaccines if vaccines have to stop this pandemic...so far stupidity ruled in this pandemic and it is not going to stop now...

Next weekend we will see how thanksgiving in the US worked in new cases-in January most of the western world could face an explosion of cases. People getting infected at christmas start infecting others at new years eve-a third infection round when schools start...will we be over the million new cases per day in second half of january ? 

Who is supposed to give the vaccines, do the logistics when the virusspread will be that bad ?  

WAR

DJ-I have been warning for "actions to start a war with Iran"-[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/11/israel-tries-to-provoke-a-war-irans-top-nuclear-scientist-assassinated.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/11/israel-tries-to-provoke-a-war-irans-top-nuclear-scientist-assassinated.html DJ-I do not think it was only an Israel/Mossad operation-the CIA and [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran were involved as well. 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/assassinated-lead-scientist-of-iranian-nuclear-program-brutally-gunned-down[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/assassinated-lead-scientist-of-iranian-nuclear-program-brutally-gunned-down 

[url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/member-of-assassination-group-that-killed-iranian-nuclear-scientist-arrested-state-tv/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/member-of-assassination-group-that-killed-iranian-nuclear-scientist-arrested-state-tv/ and [url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/complete-details-of-assassination-of-iranian-nuclear-scientist-photos/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/complete-details-of-assassination-of-iranian-nuclear-scientist-photos/ 

DJ-At least two of the attackers killed, a lot of traces for forensics to investigate. (No doubt some countries will give Iran help with their intel) [url]https://www.debka.com/father-of-irans-nuclear-and-missile-programs-assassinated-near-tehran/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/father-of-irans-nuclear-and-missile-programs-assassinated-near-tehran/ 

[url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/british-troops-secretly-sent-to-saudi-arabia-to-protect-oil-fields-independent/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/british-troops-secretly-sent-to-saudi-arabia-to-protect-oil-fields-independent/ Both the US and UK are involved in the Saudi genocide in Yemen. 

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/irans-top-nuclear-scientist-assassinated.14522/[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/irans-top-nuclear-scientist-assassinated.14522/ How Iran will and can react is still open. Will they react alone or with allies (Russia, China, Venezuela etc.) ? A RIC-Russia-Iran-China reaction could be economic. Dumping the US$ even faster...

DJ-1963 ZZ en de maskers-La Comparsa [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LzDrSisKIw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LzDrSisKIw  (for a slow start of the day...)

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Let me start with [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/life-wont-ever-be-completely-normal-again-renowned-infectionimmunity-expert-warns-covid-not[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/life-wont-ever-be-completely-normal-again-renowned-infectionimmunity-expert-warns-covid-not DJ-Yesterday Dr.John Campbell mentioned Kenya doing 7000 test per day on a population of 51 million. A lot of countries "we" keep poor are not able to do enough testing to get a realist view on Covid19 spread-forget about contact tracing, self-isolation etc. Also the vaccines will not make much difference-European, Russian, Chinese vaccines will be available within certain limits to some countries-that can produce those vaccines. (US for profit vaccines like Pfizer, Moderna are to expensive, need -60/-80C for storage etc. other countries are willing to fill the gap-for a price.)

-The weekend numbers-sat nov 28 [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ with limited testing/reporting still almost 575.000 new cases, 9231 deaths. Poland getting close to the 1 million cases-Iran will soon follow.

Due to "black friday"/shopping, thanksgiving in the US numbers will go up again-often the weather also is not helping. Schools are a major factor in spread-but is closing schools a solution ? 

-Dr. John Campbell-always very productive-with TWO new video's [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ8u3G73p-I[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ8u3G73p-I Long hauliers update and 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLp6b84x6SI[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLp6b84x6SI further info from a Canadian farmacist on vaccines, acid blockers, mouthwash, mental health (DJ-My dentist tells me mouth wash does not help-if I stop using it I get all kind of infections in my mouth-so if it works-does no damage-use it ! I gurgle the moutwash as a last part of washing my mouth to also clean my throat-I believe in it...for me-maybe for a lot of other people less effective. A Brazil-Sao Paulo study in vivo did find a special mouth wash can protect against/inactivate Covid19 virus in the upper respitory system. DJ-When the virus gets in your lungs mouth wash can not do much.)

WAR

"We live in interesting times" [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/now-iran-funeral-for-murdered-nuke-scientist-air-strikes-missile-launches-to-follow[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/now-iran-funeral-for-murdered-nuke-scientist-air-strikes-missile-launches-to-follow and [url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/nuclear-scientists-assassination-part-of-us-israeli-plan-to-thwart-bidens-iran-reengagement-media/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/nuclear-scientists-assassination-part-of-us-israeli-plan-to-thwart-bidens-iran-reengagement-media/ 

DJ-Iran (and most of the world) would like the US to return to the Iran-deal. In januari this year the US murdered Iran general Solimani visiting Bagdad/Iraq on a diplomatic mission. Most likely [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D%27Andrea[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D%27Andrea was killed by/for Iran after this US crime. 

IRGC-General Mohsen Fakhrizadeh was a veteran of the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War (in wich the west supported Saddam Hussein against Iran-KSA did provide money for "weapons of mass destruction" (WMD)-those WMD later on became an excuse for the US to "liberate" Iraq oil fields-kill Saddam Hussein. The Iraq army killed thousends of Kurds during that war-but the west provided help in doing so-also in Turkey, Iran under the shah. 

An open war with USI (US-Saudia Arabia and other IS supporting gulf dictatorships-Israel) is not in the interest of Iran. They will try to kill a leading Israeli military-nuclear scientist, blow up refinaries, try to go for cyber/electronic warfare black out of Israel/KSA. [url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/israel-embassies-in-high-alert/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/israel-embassies-in-high-alert/ 

Most likely Russia and China could help Iran-to later on offer help to Israel in restoring the damage-at a price. 

When I look at covid cases per million [url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/coronavirus-infection-in-israel-passes-1000-for-second-day/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/coronavirus-infection-in-israel-passes-1000-for-second-day/  Israel is at #16-a new increase of cases is not welcome. New elections are expected within a few months-Netanyahu may be one of the "problematic men" creating a lot of problems. A lot of Israeli's are fed up with him. The trump-netanyahu mix did not bring real peace to the region. (Israel and the Gulf States already were on the same line in many ways. Israeli army giving aid to jihadi's in the Syria war.

Wars and pandemics are a perfect combination if you want population reduction. History is full of those mixes.

Music [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRvTMrdfTAM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRvTMrdfTAM The Last Seven Days-Unit Gloria 1969. DJ-Is religion important ? Yes-"we" as humans-behave like a spoiled teenager ruining "our house" expecting "an adult"/"god" will clean up the mess we created. Some of us use religion as a means to control others-claiming they did get their position from a (self created image of) "god". Pandemics as punishment from an "angry loving god"-sorry-but WE created this mess-and WE have to solve it ! "Super(wo)man does not excist"! 

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A look at latest numbers on [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ for sunday nov.28 may give an impression of a decrease in cases...most likely in part due to less reporting in the weekend. Lockdowns in most of Europe also did bring decrease in cases. Still the virus is stubborn-hard to beat. December will be a month with a lot of shopping, christmas, later on new years eve and reopening of schools early january most likely will bring the third wave...

-[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinese-government-stepping-propaganda-change-covid-origin-story[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinese-government-stepping-propaganda-change-covid-origin-story DJ-The US keeps blaming China for this pandemic-while US Big Pharma maffia is trying to make a profit out of this-in some countries due to mismanagement-out of control pandemic. There have been findings elsewere (a.o. France, Spain sewage) indicating the Covid19-virus was active outside China in 2019. It would be good if China had a lot of proof-and the US would stop its propaganda war against China. In the present international atmosphere it may be impossible to do good research. 

I do understand the Wuhan bio-safetylab was doing research on coronavirusses that could not be done in the US. If I am correct that study was paid for by the US. One theory is that this virus escaped from that Wuhan-lab. But looking at the cluster-5 story in minks-both in NL and Denmark minks did develop this mutation hundreds of kilometers seperated from eachother...it may be Covid19 did start-more or less-in several types of bats at several places. We may never find the real story of how Covid19 started-just like with the "Spanish Flu". 

-Yet another update Dr.John Campbell [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C2KH3Xt3W0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C2KH3Xt3W0 ; Some items-undetected cases play major role in spread of Covid19-how to deal with children-can they spread virus as much as adults without (direct) health issues...

-Some US big pharma companies go for "competition" with companies that do want to fight this pandemic not for profit. It would be nice if governments could nationalize those big pharma companies for the duration of the pandemic. The idea of making profit out of a global disaster is sick. 

WAR

-[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-xi-continues-urge-troops-toward-war-readiness-over-taiwan-issue[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-xi-continues-urge-troops-toward-war-readiness-over-taiwan-issue To "make america great again" trump started a lot of conflicts around the globe. Before that US foreign policy was already a criminal disaster-enforcing ALL international energydeals had to be made in US$ or face an invasion (Iraq, Libya..) in Syria, Venezuela that policy failed. 

-[url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/new-details-revealed-about-iranian-nuclear-scientists-relationship-with-syria-hezbollah-hamas-report/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/new-details-revealed-about-iranian-nuclear-scientists-relationship-with-syria-hezbollah-hamas-report/

The article pointed to “a report published by the” Neeman Foundation two years ago that Iran, under the supervision of Fakhriadeh, has transferred its technological progress to Syria, Yemen, Hezbollah and the Palestinian factions, so that the resistance movements and Syria do not remain at the mercy of the changing circumstances that may prevent the flow of weapons to them from Tehran. ”

The article pointed out that “the plan to assassinate Fakhrizadeh was drawn up during a secret meeting held in 2019 in the United States, in which a number of Israeli military and security leaders, Emirati and Saudi personalities, and a number of leaders of the People’s Mujahedin of Iran (PMOI) participated, adding that “on the agenda of the meeting, one item was the implementation of security operations inside Iran, and an attempt to disrupt its missile, military and nuclear program, as well as developing plans to prevent weapons from reaching Syria, and from there to Lebanon and Gaza.”

DJ-The above quote confirms the Israeli claim Iran is behind groups in Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen etc. It then depends on who's side you are on if you call that terrorism or resistance. The outcome of killing the Iran general near Teheran is [url]https://southfront.org/iran-to-boost-nuclear-activity-in-response-to-top-scientists-assassination/[/url] or https://southfront.org/iran-to-boost-nuclear-activity-in-response-to-top-scientists-assassination/.. Iran claims their interpetation of Islam prohibits making nuclear weapons. (DJ-Both Russia and China see-for now-Iran as a strategic link in their plans-Iran does not want to much influence of both Russia or China in Iran. But China may protect energy projects in Iran they pay for-Russia may protect infrastructure projects (railways, pipelines, a canal-plan-to link the Caspian Sea with the Indian Ocean). 

Climate

[url]https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2975.1900.html[/url] or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2975.1900.html latest posting see 2020 slowly moving towards the 2016 line-will we get at record low arctic sea ice levels again ???

Music; The Modern World-Jonathan Richman [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_SVoOwW4Yc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_SVoOwW4Yc 1972 (!!!)

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Since we live in interesting times... Covid in Children

[urlhttps://www.dutchnews.nl/features/2020/11/yes-children-do-spread-the-coronavirus-heres-how-i-know/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/features/2020/11/yes-children-do-spread-the-coronavirus-heres-how-i-know/ : When my daughter’s primary school in Amsterdam emailed to say that her Group 5 teacher had Covid, I felt slightly uneasy. Coronavirus was something you heard about on the news, but now it had broken through the school gates and was creeping into the classroom. Still, the teacher was at home, she felt fine, and the children were safe. I thought no more about it.
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When a third child reports a positive result on Thursday, I try to book a test for my eight-year-old, who has developed a cough. There’s no need to test under 10s with colds, the local health board (GGD) tells me, as they don’t tend to catch or spread the virus. I mention that three children and the teacher have coronavirus, but they stick to the party line.
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My daughter was, I believe, the eleventh child to test positive. We were locked down with her, caged in the lion’s den. The virus had finally come knocking and I felt my chest tighten with anxiety.

DJ Another Belgian story [url]https://www.en24news.com/world/en/2020/11/damien-8-is-on-ic-who-thinks-corona-is-nonsense-look-at-my-son-abroad.html[/url] or https://www.en24news.com/world/en/2020/11/damien-8-is-on-ic-who-thinks-corona-is-nonsense-look-at-my-son-abroad.html ;The father of eight-year-old Damien, a boy from Liège who is in intensive care after becoming infected with the corona virus, is making an emotional appeal on social media to take the pandemic seriously. “Please take care of yourself, protect yourself and protect others.”

-Animals and Covid19;

[url]https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2020/11/articles/animals/other-animals/covid-in-animals-review-part-10-non-human-primates/[/url] or https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2020/11/articles/animals/other-animals/covid-in-animals-review-part-10-non-human-primates/ 

WAR

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dangerous-crossroads-natos-attempted-infringement-russias-airspace-aand-maritime[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dangerous-crossroads-natos-attempted-infringement-russias-airspace-aand-maritime ; "look how close they put their country to our military bases"

Hal Turner still hopes trump will stay president; [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/wild-rumors-cia-director-said-to-be-arrested-for-treason-or-shot-dead-or-suicided-or-injured-in-frankfurt-gun-fight[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/wild-rumors-cia-director-said-to-be-arrested-for-treason-or-shot-dead-or-suicided-or-injured-in-frankfurt-gun-fight 

and 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/reports-truckers-strike-actually-beginning[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/reports-truckers-strike-actually-beginning 

DJ-No idea what is going on in the US...



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VQ24   !


DJ-Proberbly due to a lot of people working from home internet has some problems -I did try to finish my post twice-I will do a repair job later today....  

DJ-Let me start with an update from Dr. John Campbell on the US [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ku4VCPRLWI[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ku4VCPRLWI ;

-In US cases going up-followed by hospitalizations, followed by deaths. Thanksgiving will see increases in cases from december 2 (that is tomorrow). Cases going up in all agegroups-hospitalizations now higher in the US then during the first-spring-wave.

-Even just 1 in 2,5 hospitalizations did at admission test positive for Covid19. Of all cases something like 1 out of 7 or 8 tested positive. Translating that to US numbers round 100 million-about 1/3 of the US population-may already have been infected. 

-The infection fatality ratio in the US would be similar to the UK ratio-0,25%=1 out of 400 infected dying from Covid19. 

DJ-Maybe it is the media/press-do more children now get ill from Covid19 ? Another question is on how many cases of re-infection are there ? Can you get Covid19 three times ? Four times ? Has that to do with lack of antibodies/immunity or does the virus change enough to be able to reinfect (maybe giving less illness)? How high is the reinfection ratio-if only 1 or 2% gets reinfected it may not have much effect on "herd immunity". If over 10% of people somehow do not get enough immunity against Covid 19 then the big question is why ? Would they need to selfisolate longer ? Can vaccines change the picture ? 

Dr.J.C. is very optimistic-in my opinion. His claim "1/3 of US population means 1/4 million US deaths-all of US being infected=3/4 million deaths-but vaccines will stop that"-in my opinion is unrealistic for two reasons:

1-Reinfections

2-Vaccines will be effective after 9/10 weeks after the first vaccination (with Moderna and Pfizer you need two vaccinations-with 3 to 4 weeks between the vaccinations-and another 6 weeks till the vaccine gives protection) So you may see some early effects of vaccinations end of february 2021...

Also the statistics of the age distribution of cases so far may not completely cover future developments. It may be children do get very ill sometimes but it may take longer for them to get that ill...The idea that even primary young children are "safe" is clearly wrong !

Dr.J.C. UK update showing better trends in the UK [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8KYWQICMMU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8KYWQICMMU due to lockdowns. 

Dr.J.C. has a third shorter  DW-video on Moderna and long Covid [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0LBXV2bTs[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0LBXV2bTs ;



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part 2,

Dr.J.C. mentions 2/3% of people with Covid19 have long term (3 months) problems. Women are doing slightly worse, COPD/BMI 30+ risk factors-if you have 5+ symptoms during early illness there may be increased risk for long term health issues. If there is organdamage (kidneys, hearth) there is a chance of not getting much better/permanent damage. 

-A look at [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ for monday nov-30. The numbers reflect limited reporting/testing sunday. Still almost 1/3 of all of the reported almost 500.000 new cases is from the US. Even with limited testing and reporting in many countries the US is doing not very good. 

-Spain will have mandatory use of facemasks all 2021...vaccines may help but will make a difference end of next year is the story.

[url]https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-11-06/bike-lanes-how-cities-across-the-world-are-responding-to-the-pandemic.html[/url] or https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-11-06/bike-lanes-how-cities-across-the-world-are-responding-to-the-pandemic.html

H5N8

[url]http://www.thebigwobble.org/2020/11/h5n8-subtype-highly-pathogenic-avian.html[/url] or http://www.thebigwobble.org/2020/11/h5n8-subtype-highly-pathogenic-avian.html in China

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/south-korean-duck-farm-suffers-outbreak-highly-pathogenic-h5n8-bird-flu[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/south-korean-duck-farm-suffers-outbreak-highly-pathogenic-h5n8-bird-flu South Korea

DJ-So far H5N8 mainly is a risk for (wild) birds-but the H5-part is a risk for humans. The more infections in birds the greater the risk H5N8 gets for humans.

WAR

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/strong-indications-of-iran-missile-strike-against-haifa-israel-coming-tonight[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/strong-indications-of-iran-missile-strike-against-haifa-israel-coming-tonight claims there are indications of missiles being prepared near the Golan Heights in Syria (by pro-Iran forces). So far nu further confirmation. Iran claims there were findings at the site of the murder of their nuclear scientist east of Teheran-linking Israel to this act. [url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/nuclear-scientists-assassination-was-planned-during-netanyahus-visit-to-saudi-arabia-iranian-fm/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/nuclear-scientists-assassination-was-planned-during-netanyahus-visit-to-saudi-arabia-iranian-fm/ 

Also [url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iranian-military-commander-and-bodyguards-killed-along-syrian-iraqi-border-report/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iranian-military-commander-and-bodyguards-killed-along-syrian-iraqi-border-report/ (no further info on that ???)

[url]https://southfront.org/policy-of-terror-assassinations-of-nuclear-scientists-in-iran/[/url] or https://southfront.org/policy-of-terror-assassinations-of-nuclear-scientists-in-iran/.. 

DJ-It would be a good thing if finally the outcome of the US elections is clear. Trump staying in power due to a supreme court decission is "not good for the sense of democracy". (DJ-If that would be the outcome one would get the image the US is not able to organize proper elections..)

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"DJ-It would be a good thing if finally the outcome of the US elections is clear. Trump staying in power due to a supreme court decission is "not good for the sense of democracy". (DJ-If that would be the outcome one would get the image the US is not able to organize proper elections..)"

Although we're not out of the woods yet, any extreme action such as that is seeming very unlikely now.  Even though I have been concerned about the concept of "faithless electors", the concept that electors could be appointed who would not allot the electoral votes in that state in accordance with the popular vote.  But here are the dates upcoming for each of these matters in detail:

https://www.aei.org/politics-and-public-opinion/key-dates-for-the-electoral-college-and-what-they-mean/


Key dates for the Electoral College and what they mean

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POLITICS AND PUBLIC OPINIONCONSTITUTIONELECTIONS

October 26, 2020

What are the key dates for the workings of the Electoral College?


November 3 — Election Day


Election Day is November 3. We may or may not know the winner of the presidential contest on election night, but we certainly will not have a final tally and certified results until weeks later. States vary widely in the time they allot for certifying their election results. Some may give a final certification the week after Election Day. Others may take over 30 days. And there is the possibility of recounts and judicial contests of elections which could extend the time to determine an official winner of a state.



Ballots are passed out to 16 Electors on the Michigan Senate floor for them to cast their formal votes for the president and vice president of the United States in Lansing, Michigan, U.S., December 19, 2016. REUTERS/Rebecca Cook

December 8 — Safe Harbor


December 14 — The meeting of the Electors


Two key dates loom in December. On December 14, presidential electors must have been selected by the states and will meet as a group in their states to cast electoral votes for president and vice president. But December 8 is also a significant date, the so-called “safe harbor” date. The Electoral Count Act sets this date as an important date for states to make their official selection of electors, as those electoral votes will be given greater protection from challenge when Congress counts the electoral votes in January. The Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore assigned great significance to this date in Bush v. Gore.


January 3 — The convening of the new Congress


January 6 — Congress counts the votes


January 20 — Inauguration Day. The new presidential term begins at noon.


On January 3rd, the new Congress will take office, and on January 6th it will meet to count the electoral votes and declare a president- and vice president-elect. On January 20th at noon, the current presidential term will end and the next one will begin.


This is excerpted from the new fourth edition of After the People Vote, edited by John Fortier, senior fellow at the Bipartisan Policy Center and a member of AEI’s Election Watch team.

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VQ24-thank you for the timeline. 

DJ-Pandemics and politics have a complicated relationship. In 2019 some experts claimed the US,UK, and NL (NetherLands) would be most ready for dealing with a pandemic. A year later it is clear that-due to political decissions-these three countries did a poor job. They went for "herd immunity", "protecting the economy" and keep running behind the facts. 

China showed itself to be able to deal with this pandemic. Yes-they may have underestimated the outbreak in the beginning, may have given lower number of cases then the real numbers. But by "draconian rules" (wich may have cost some peoples lives) China did "smother" the outbreaks. 

Germany also showed their healtcare system was able to deal with large numbers belonging to a pandemic. Decission on keeping hospitals open-in the last decades-was a regional matter. Lots of countries did go for spending cuts on hospitals-Germany did not. Their ICU capacity saved many non-German lives as well-other European countries could bring patients to German hospitals if they ran out of capacity. In testing Germany had a "military style" system doing a superb job-that kind of organization they now will use for vaccinations. 

Another country doing very good is Finland. Social distancing is a way of life in that not that densely populated country-allthough most Finnish people live in the Helsinki area. In many ways Finland is "not the center" for global trade and traffic. 

Countries like Italy, France, Spain had draconian rules-during lockdowns-locking people up for weeks in-often-small apartments. That strategy worked but lifting limitations to soon did bring back the virus. 

-Dr.John Campbell/DW [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRRWhNrAtjA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRRWhNrAtjA on vaccine rollout (<8 minutes-love it !)

-Summer and vaccination combined could end this pandemic (DJ-I think Dr.J.C. is a bit optimistic-but he is an expert-I am not).

-Peak Prosperity/Chris Martenson [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWqNl4UUlH0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWqNl4UUlH0 on what does testing positive on a PCR test mean....DJ-good question but looking at the US numbers-maybe not now (?) (DJ-Even if testing positive in PCR sometimes has limited meaning-hospital cases are going up in many places-a lot of people are (very) ill-and still a lot of them did not get tested..)

-[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ allthough not record breaking the global statistics do not look good ! We did not-yet-reach the 1.5 million global deaths yet-but we are not that far away from that point. We may see two million deaths by january 1-21. [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-covid-hospitalizations-hit-new-record-vietnam-halts-international-flights-after-1st[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-covid-hospitalizations-hit-new-record-vietnam-halts-international-flights-after-1st 

DJ-Vaccines may bring some changes in spring 2021-not much sooner !!!!! Increase of cases in the US and Brazil is alarming. The US may be over 100.000 hospital cases by now. If 2.5% of people infected have long term healthissues the US may see-already-over 300.000 "chronic Covid19 cases". Poland and Iran both will be over the 1 million cases soon. In many countries healthcare is in crisis. 

In NL the problem is less in peak-numbers-we have a stagnation of cases-the duration of pressure on the healthcare system is becoming a problem. HCW-ers working overtime for weeks, a lot of staff getting infected. Spread via children is a major problem. 

December is "top-shopping month" and so-in many places-top spreading month. You can discuss if the january peak will be a third wave or part of the second wave-but it may be very hard not to see increase of cases again. 

-DJ-on politics, I hoped the trump election would bring reforms to make democracy work better (in and outside the US), I hoped Brexit would bring EU-reforms, I now hope this pandemic will make healthcare a priority-but I hope in vain. There may be some truth in that the CCP better represent the will of the Chinese, Cuba has a better performing form of "democracy", even Assad in Syria, Kim in North Korea may have more support then "an elite" "running western democracies" (in wich every $, € counts-not every vote). 

"Dictatorships" need some public support to be long lasting. Older people living in former states of the Soviet Union can compare the old and the new. If "freedom means poverty"for most that "freedom is not freedom at all"!  We-in the west-may have forgotten the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Freedoms[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Freedoms . Extreme income inequality does not mix with democracy !!! Destroying the planet out of greed is a crime !!!!

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Some conflicting reports [url]https://southfront.org/unidentified-irgc-commander-killed-at-syria-iraq-border-reuters-report/[/url] or https://southfront.org/unidentified-irgc-commander-killed-at-syria-iraq-border-reuters-report/ and

[url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-denies-irgc-commander-killed-along-syrian-iraqi-border/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-denies-irgc-commander-killed-along-syrian-iraqi-border/ 

DJ-Can it be there are still "ongoing anti-Iran operations" in the Middle East ? Iran first has to "get a full picture of the attack" before responding ? Yesterday Hal Turner claimed pro-Iran forces were preparing a missile attack from the Syrian Golan Heigths on Haifa-in northern Israel. Most likely "intel" picked up signals of missiles being prepared for launch. (If the IDF knows where those missiles would be positioned they would try to destroy them). Maybe sending out such signals-making Israel very nervous-is part of the revenge. [url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/riyadh-to-permit-israel-flights-to-cut-through-saudi-airspace/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/riyadh-to-permit-israel-flights-to-cut-through-saudi-airspace/ 

DJ-I do think Iran has a nuclear programm for energy (as Iran claims) NOT for weapons. Oil is running out in Iran-they need other sources of energy. Also having nuclear weapons has limited use. Nuclear weapons cost a lot of money to produce, store, protect and you can not use nuclear weapons in most/all conflicts. Iran may get more in having no nukes-from Russia and China then with nuclear weapons and less help from "friends". (Iran has reasonable good relations with both Turkey and Pakistan (Turkey-Iran-Pakistan=TIP) TIP are more or less in the same postion towards Russia, China, the EU,  (even) India as a link between the east and the west. 

DJ-I do not expect a major military attack directly from Iran on Israel. Covered action via proxies is more likely-maybe far away from Israel against Israeli targets (ElAl airlines ? Cyberwar ? )

-China does not want to be blamed for this pandemic. There is no country that does want to be blamed for that. a "scientific view" on how this pandemic may have started-without blaming-is needed-also to prevent a next pandemic (or at least trying to do so..) From NL and Denmark we know how easy Covid19 mutates (cluster5 in both countries) in minks. The way we-as humans-deal with animals has to change !

Music Enya-Aniron [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMyo8I8AKmY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMyo8I8AKmY (In a winter landscape)

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRRWhNrAtjA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRRWhNrAtjAGeneticist Steven O'Brien investigates whether a genetic mutation that helped the inhabitants of a village called Eyam in Derbyshire survive the Black Death pandemic in the 14th century help scientists find a cure for AIDS.

DJ-[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5

C-C chemokine receptor type 5, also known as CCR5 or CD195, is a protein on the surface of white blood cells that is involved in the immune system as it acts as a receptor for chemokines.[5]

In humans, the CCR5 gene that encodes the CCR5 protein is located on the short (p) arm at position 21 on chromosome 3. Certain populations have inherited the Delta 32 mutation, resulting in the genetic deletion of a portion of the CCR5 gene. Homozygous carriers of this mutation are resistant to M-tropic strains of HIV-1 infection.

This research started with finding people that could not get the plague in the 17th century. They did get often the Delta32 mutation from both parents-later research also did find this mutation provided safety against HIV infection. The introduction of the plague in 14th century Europe meant those without this mutation were far more vulnarable for the pest-bacteria-so those with this mutation could survive. Evolution in action. 

The Delta32 mutation unables the virus/bacterial dna getting into the white bloodcells-so you may be in contact with the virus or bacteria it can not infect you. 

What could this finding mean for the present Covid19 pandemic ? 

[url]https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/immune-cells-common-cold-may-recognize-sars-cov-2[/url] or https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/immune-cells-common-cold-may-recognize-sars-cov-2 ;

  • A study of blood samples taken before the COVID-19 pandemic showed that some people already had certain immune cells that recognize SARS-CoV-2.
  • These immune cells also reacted with coronaviruses that cause common colds.
  • The findings suggest that existing immune cells may help account for the wide range of symptoms experienced by people with COVID-19.

DJ-People are NOT all the same. Small difference in genes may make some people much more vulnarable for Covid19, others may be protected by their genes (so not only by earlier infections from more harmless corona (cold) virusses). 

-You have a "fire triangle"-three basic ingredients to enable a fire; oxygen, fuel, ignition temperature. If one of those three is missing you can not have a fire. 

For pandemics one can think of something similar; 1=A virus, bacteria (etc) 2=A host that can get infected 3=Spread of the virus via that host. 

In the present corona virus pandemic finding those with a form of immunity may be interesting; three groups

A-People that had Covid 19

B-People that did have another coronavirus infection now protecting them for Covid19

C-There could be a group of people not vulnarable for corona virusses by their DNA

If one could find out how large group C is-and why (maybe there are more mutations-or you need to have the mutation from both parents) it may help in dealing with this pandemic. 

A NPI approach on pandemics in general should be less animals and less travel. A lot of illnesses have a zoönotic background-come from (other) animals in humans. Jumping up and down the globe is spread. 

-Another article [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/dalio-united-states-tipping-point-could-lead-revolution-or-civil-war[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/dalio-united-states-tipping-point-could-lead-revolution-or-civil-war DJ Democracy should be power by the people in the interest of that people-not an elite deciding what "we" have to accept. 

It is nice to have human rights-but those rights should not be empty words.


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-A look at the numbers [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ for dec 2.

-We stayed under the recordnumber in new cases (over 662.000 nov 13) still 634.000+ (new tested) cases is a lot.

-In new (tested reported) deaths we do have a new-sad-record12,376 people died in just one day from Covid19

-Today we will go beyond the 1,5 million deaths, Poland crossed the 1 million cases yesterday, Iran will cross that line today.

-The US did see a record number of deaths yesterday 2833 (old record was 2744 april 21), the second highest number in new cases-per day-with 203,737 (record number was november 20 204,166). 

A part of the high numbers can be explained by delayed reporting of cases. We will see that also at the end of this month due to christmas and new year. The upward trend is clear-we most likely will be over 2 million deaths by january 1-2021.  Turkey started reporting the real number of cases-not just hospital cases. They may come with corrections on their numbers-putting that country also above the 1 million cases. 

Israel-as a small country-also see a strong upward trend. They had a strict lockdown. Started phased reopenings-but maybe even small steps came to soon. Also religious groups believe in prayer not in social distancing. 

Underreporting and lack of testing still is widespread. "Herd immunity" on a global scale-if even possible-still may be far away. 

The official number of reinfections (tested twice positive within several months) is still low-was 25 a few weeks ago. I (DJ) think we may see much more reinfections-it may be "good" to know what percentage of the population does not get enough immunity after one infection. Also-as time goes on-there will be stories (followed by tested cases) of people being infected three times (or even more). 

Vaccinations may bring some changes-starting from february. But not all the vaccines may bring the same results. (Some vaccines themselves may cause a mild form of Covid19 in some patients-making them not usefull for "the old and ill") It can be that some vaccines will offer only limited protection in some groups. 

-Yesterday I put a link to a timeline-episode of people unable to get the plague or HIV/AIDS by a "delta 32" mutation in their DNA. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5#Evolutionary_history_and_age_of_the_allele[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5#Evolutionary_history_and_age_of_the_allele One thing we may learn from the present Covid19 outbreak is if the [url]https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-05-15/coronavirus-of-today-eerily-similar-to-1889-russian-flu-pandemic[/url] or https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-05-15/coronavirus-of-today-eerily-similar-to-1889-russian-flu-pandemic people who survived (well) the Russian Flu have some genetic immunity against corona-infections. 

Some people may be insusceptible for corona-virus infection due to a mutation in their DNA. People without that mutation may have died in earlier large COrona VIrus Disease outbreaks in some regions. 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/cnns-blame-china-document-leak-shows-that-china-did-nothing-wrong.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/cnns-blame-china-document-leak-shows-that-china-did-nothing-wrong.html DJ-Based on this story one could think Chinese workers imported Covid19 from Italy...Did Covid19 start there ?

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[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/irans-parliament-is-helping-joe-biden-to-rejoin-the-nuclear-deal.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/irans-parliament-is-helping-joe-biden-to-rejoin-the-nuclear-deal.html The long term goal of Iran is to be part of the global community. Also Russia and China want Iran to play such a role for their strategic interests. Iran for Russia is a link to the Indian Ocean. For China Iran (as part of TIP-Turkey-Iran-Pakistan) is a link to Europe and Africa. 

[url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iranian-intelligence-identified-people-connected-to-nuclear-scientists-assassination-spox/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iranian-intelligence-identified-people-connected-to-nuclear-scientists-assassination-spox/ Iran may have a lot of info on "who did what when". The US-Saudi-Israel provocations will go on-untill the Biden presidency-is the most likely expectation. 

Since the US "democrats"want war with Russia [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/cnns-blame-china-document-leak-shows-that-china-did-nothing-wrong.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/cnns-blame-china-document-leak-shows-that-china-did-nothing-wrong.html . The "republican"want war with China [url]https://southfront.org/u-s-reportedly-harassed-chinese-shipping-and-airliner-crews-as-beijing-vows-countermeasures/[/url] or https://southfront.org/u-s-reportedly-harassed-chinese-shipping-and-airliner-crews-as-beijing-vows-countermeasures/ -DJ the outcome is Russia-China and a growing number of other countries getting fed up with US foreign policy insanity. 

Ukraine may choose to work with Turkey-that-with Erdogan-would like to create a "new Turkish empire". [url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/egypt-greece-cyprus-send-message-to-turkey-with-joint-naval-maneuvers/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/egypt-greece-cyprus-send-message-to-turkey-with-joint-naval-maneuvers/ . Even France-confronting Turkey-would like to have "more influence"a.o. in Lebanon. 

Both France and Turkey hope "working with Russia" may be more constructive for their goals. The US is "very unhappy" with the growing number of trade routes linking Europe to Russia and China. From the melting Arctic sealanes, crosscontinental railroads and pipelines to shipping (that also includes India) via the Indian Ocean. The "multi polar world" IS the "new world order" !!!

The pandemic-with the US failing to get a grip on it-is speeding up processes that already started decades ago (maybe with Nixon visiting China/Mao in 1972 [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon%27s_1972_visit_to_China[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon%27s_1972_visit_to_China). 

Music; [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0nQRE07GeA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0nQRE07GeA 1966 Gigliola Cinquetti-Nonho l'eta-I am not old enough...

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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:


Since the US "democrats"want war with Russia [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/cnns-blame-china-document-leak-shows-that-china-did-nothing-wrong.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/cnns-blame-china-document-leak-shows-that-china-did-nothing-wrong.html . The "republican"want war with China [url]https://southfront.org/u-s-reportedly-harassed-chinese-shipping-and-airliner-crews-as-beijing-vows-countermeasures/[/url] or https://southfront.org/u-s-reportedly-harassed-chinese-shipping-and-airliner-crews-as-beijing-vows-countermeasures/ -DJ the outcome is Russia-China and a growing number of other countries getting fed up with US foreign policy insanity. 

I'd warn you against opinion blogs and coming to a blanket conclusion about either party.

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DJ (part 1, part 2 is Dr.J.C./PP video's)

-A look at [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ shows recordnumbers for december 3. Global new cases almost 680.000 increase, global 12,683 new deaths. Part of the record numbers can be explained by delayed reporting. Still there is a serious rise in cases. 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-suffers-record-daily-covid-cases-hospitalizations-pass-100k-global-death-toll-tops[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-suffers-record-daily-covid-cases-hospitalizations-pass-100k-global-death-toll-tops 

[url]https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=IND~USA~GBR~CAN~DEU~JPN®ion=World&casesMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=new_cases_per_million&pickerSort=desc[/url] or https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=IND~USA~GBR~CAN~DEU~JPN®ion=World&casesMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=new_cases_per_million&pickerSort=desc

The US is hit hard and seems to be unable to get a grip on this outbreak. Hospitals must be close to breaking point. This means that the number of pandemic related deaths will go up. 

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/03/coronavirus-infections-week-33-incl-5641-today[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/03/coronavirus-infections-week-33-incl-5641-today DJ-Also excess deaths in NL going up. Lots of care were stopped in the spring wave-most of it did not get compensated during summer. So a lot of people with early cancer, hearth problems etc. are being missed and may face a worse outcome. 

One of the motors behind the pandemic is still open [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/mapping-global-lockdown-where-air-travel-partially-open-and-where-its-fully-closed[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/mapping-global-lockdown-where-air-travel-partially-open-and-where-its-fully-closed 

[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-eat-just-singapore/singapore-becomes-first-country-to-approve-sale-of-lab-grown-meat-idUKKBN28C06Q[/url] or https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-eat-just-singapore/singapore-becomes-first-country-to-approve-sale-of-lab-grown-meat-idUKKBN28C06Q Major changes in meat production (why go for all of the animal when you only want the meat ?) can decrease pandemic risks. 

WAR

Witch Misspelled is correct in warning for blanket conclusions on US parties. A lot of US citizens-and politicians-from both parties-and other parties do realize endless confrontations with other countries only harm the US. 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-sorties-entire-black-sea-fleet[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-sorties-entire-black-sea-fleet DJ-There are many conflicts that can easily get out of control. Russia would like to be a "dominant factor"in the Black Sea. Turkey and Ukraine started working together, NATO is looking for Romania, Georgia to be a third party in that sea.  [url]https://southfront.org/mini-turkey-azerbaijan-is-forced-to-change-date-of-victory-day-holliday-to-please-big-ottoman-brother/[/url] or https://southfront.org/mini-turkey-azerbaijan-is-forced-to-change-date-of-victory-day-holliday-to-please-big-ottoman-brother/ "Help has a price"-Azarbaijan may face "refugee/rebel export" by Turkey.

[url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-is-facing-comprehensive-war-that-is-worse-than-iraq-conflict-rouhani/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-is-facing-comprehensive-war-that-is-worse-than-iraq-conflict-rouhani/  Allthough Iran has a lot of help-the balancing act is what help at what price. Both Russia and China would like to have military bases in Iran-with that influence. Iran may try to seek time to get a clear picture on what to expect from a new US government.

[url]https://southfront.org/trump-administration-fights-iran-in-middle-east-as-qods-force-expands-in-u-s-backyard/[/url] or https://southfront.org/trump-administration-fights-iran-in-middle-east-as-qods-force-expands-in-u-s-backyard/ DJ-On january 3 this year the US murdered IRGC leader Solimani on a diplomatic mission in Bagdhad. Will iran react january 3 2021 on the recent terrorist attack near Tehran killing a nuclear scientist ? Another scenario could be "a larger deal" with Turkey pulling back from Syria and Iraq-Iran and Russia taking over those positions. In return Turkey may get energy from Russia and Iran, trade deal from China. (US forces in Syria and Iraq having a choice between surrender or dead).

DJ-I notice a growing frustration on the US international stand. To force a-possible-Biden government back into the Iran deal "some pressure may be needed". (Even European countries could accept that.)



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DJ-part 2

-In his last episode PP/CM repeated testing positive for Covid19 does not mean you will get SARS-2. (DJ Just like being HIV+ does not mean you have AIDS). In statistics by "cases" they refer to people testing positive for the COrona VIrus Disease from 2019 (CO.VI.D-19) than can cause Severe Acute Respitory Syndrome-2 (SARS-2)).  To keep things simple-testing positive for Covid19 can be without symptoms, mild symptoms-but in both cases the ifected person can spread the disease-I (DJ) mean by cases people testing postive for the COVID-19 testing methods. It is true that not all testing is perfect-far from it-still record hospital cases, deaths-around the world indicate we have a major pandemic. 

PP/CM [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5-S49EqCJ8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5-S49EqCJ8;

-Frontline doctors in the US find Ivermectin [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin giving good results in treating hospitalized Covid19 cases. Studies in Brazil, Paraguay also find major benefits of Ivermectin.

-In Peru chronic Covid patients (wich can be up to 10% of all cases-DJ-also depending on definition-CDC believes three weeks would be enough for recovery-so 3wks+ is "chronic"?) did see improvement when treated with Ivermectin. (A lot of the symptoms look similar to ME-CFS "Chronc Fatigue Syndrome"-often treated as depression in some countries-so DJ-can Ivermectin help in ME-CFS/Fibro Myalgia and other not taken serious diseases ?)

-Also as a preventative medication Ivermectin may be effective.

-Even in late treatment some studies indicate 60% improvement (DJ-So it increases chances of survival, limiting long term damage)

-Expensive ineffective Remdesivir did get promoted (did bring in a lot of profits-did not help anyone)-Ivermectin is cheap-no profits...so no promotion (By NIH/NHS etc ?)

-In Chiapas-Mexico in july 10.000 Ivermectin testcases were distributed-now Chiapas is the only region in Mexico with decrease in cases.

-Also in Romania positive results.

-PP/CM zinc, vitamin B-complex, C, D3, selenium, melatonin may help prevent getting ill, or help recovery in earl stages-next to Ivermectin. 

DJ-Earlier PP/CM promoted HCQ-when I look at the results of Costa Rica, India using HCQ a lot-the statistics are unclear. I (DJ) believe "big pharma"wants to go for profit-not the easy cheap medication. In some countries big pharma seems to be in control of how we deal with this pandemic. Many countries did manage to stop this disease via NPI-strict lockdowns long enough to have long term effects. In that way they managed to also limit economic damage. 

I think PP/CM was wrong in his XYZ-herd immunity idea-the "second wave"in a lot of places being worse then the first wave. Vaccines [url]https://www.rt.com/russia/508581-sputnik-v-mass-vaccination/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/russia/508581-sputnik-v-mass-vaccination/ (Most of the world will go for Russian, Chinese, European vaccines-often made available at no/low cost to countries we keep poor. Those vaccines are not without risks-Ivermectin may be a better alternative...more safe.)

Both Chris Martenson and John Campbell have a medical background. They both provide a lot of info under their video's. 

Dr.John Campbell [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhUh7FWDPMQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhUh7FWDPMQ on vaccines and the US hospital cases. 

-First reported experiences in test trials with Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is that after vaccination the test persons did feel like a "bad hangover" for a couple of days. Second vaccination did give less effects. (DJ-This may indicate those vaccines may not be usefull-or be risky-for the old and vulnarable-they may be better of with other vaccines.)

(DJ-Dr.J.C. is NOT doing much reporting on the Russian and Chinese vaccines that will become most used worldwide. His story is a bit "western" in that sense.)

-AstraZeneca/Oxford adeno-virus-2 doses is next. Then most likely Johnson&Johnson/Janssen Pharma (from Leiden/NL) first used a single vaccination-now also going for two vaccinations with adeno-virus.

- Jonathan Van Tam UK health official-Covid19 will become endemic-Dr.J.C. disagrees-we do no longer see SARS-1 or MERS infections. (But we do have four corona-virusses giving a cold). DJ-Vaccines will not get available for all around the globe. Many "poor" countries hardly do enough testing-several countries do not even have a government. Dr.J.C. is optimistic about Africa-people having some form of immunity against Covid19-DJ-I do not share that optimism. What we see in very limited reporting is that the spread may be slower-less mobility. Also hardly any testing. The image that therefore Covid19 is not a problem in Africa in my idea is wrong. [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ the 2,2 million reported cases in Africa may be just the tip of a major iceberg...

-The [url]https://www.ema.europa.eu/en[/url] or https://www.ema.europa.eu/en will decide on december 29 in Amsterdam on Pfizer (production a.o. in Belgium, Germany)-after that EU member states also have to decide....several weeks later then the UK. The US/FDA will decide on Pfizer dec 10, Moderna dec 17. 

-US CDC data trends look bad-hospital cases going up fast. A lot of cases being missed. 

-How to get the message over to the general public; there is no room for Christmas/New Year in larger groups this year...

-Priority in vaccination for those that will most likely become a burden for healthcare most. (Young people may not get very sick from Covid19). 

-Still "real-politik" a lot of spread will happen this month (around the globe). Hospitals are preparing for an increase in cases-including triage rules ( the "black"scenario)-who can get treatment and who will not get treated (=will die) if hospitals run out of capacity. You may be able to increase the beds-staff may be the problem...

DJ-China may be offering help. In the past some European countries did accept such help. China is able-and willin-to put up staffed emergency hospitals around the globe. 

Again PP/CM claims Ivermectin may do wonderfull-maybe it will get used widely in a crisis. 

-[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/04/covid-outbreak-team-members-threatened-home[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/04/covid-outbreak-team-members-threatened-home In NL the Outbreak Management Team advises on closing restaurants, bars, schools etc. threats are very unwelcome. 

To close some clips from 1896-[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_DGRXvKkD4[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_DGRXvKkD4 sounds and colors added later on...wonderfull timemachine !

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-As expected [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ showing recordnumbers-both worldwide and for the US. Also Brazil, Russia see a stark increase of cases/deaths. News on vaccines may make people feel more safe-while the vaccine only gives-after several weeks-protection after being vaccinated. Thanksgiving is part of the explanation-december-shopping will be a major factor around the globe. (DJ-Correction-dec 3 did see even higher numbers).

Worldwide december 4 did see almost 685.000 new (tested and reported) cases-the US had over 1/3 of them. In deaths 12.126 worldwide-of wich the US had 2718-almost 1/4 of all tested/reported deaths. 

Brazil is seeing high numbers again-but still far from earlier record numbers. (70.896 new cases on july 29, that day also had a record number of Brazil deaths 1554-dec 4 did see Brazil reporting 47.435 new cases/674 deaths).

Russia is now also seeing record number of increases both in cases and deaths. Dec 3 did see 28.145 new cases in Russia-a record. Also dec 2 had a record number of 589 deaths. Russia managed to keep the (reported) numbers quite low during a first wave-in some ways this is their first wave...

Other countries Germany, Poland also seeing record numbers. December is family month-shopping month and people are "tired of Covid 19" -a deadly combination-that will bring us a third-even worse-wave early 2021. 

Excess deaths-indirect pandemic deaths-may go up even faster then Covid deaths. A lot of people with cancer, hearth disease etc already have not the needed care-most likely that may worsen in the coming months. 

Also (air) travel seems to be increasing. We could use more data on changes in age/gender distribution of cases. Does Covid19 now spread via younger children ? What role do animals-often still not tested-play ? From cats, bats, ferrits, minks to mice they could also be a factor. 

Europol is warning for fake vaccins. Since there is a lot of money in dealing with this pandemic-soon a lot of crime will jump on it as well. There may be more money in this pandemic then in drugs, (human)organs, or (sex)slaves...Organized crime can make dealing with this pandemic impossible...Do the vaccines come in time ? 

-Dr.John Campbell-update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5F2lZAwQ88[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5F2lZAwQ88 ;

-Russia (Dr.J.C. like in most countries) real number 10X the reported cases. A doctor claiming healthcare has collapsed. A Moscow cemetary-a lot of space this spring-now almost full. (DJ [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_metropolitan_area[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_metropolitan_area has a population of about 20 million-Russia in all has a population of almost 146 million-so around 14% of all Russians live in and around Moscow-a cemetary getting full in november in such a region may be a false indication.) 

-China-mink farming did increase.....DJ-with the cluster5 mutation showing up in minks in NL and Denmark-jumping into the population in Denmark (they claim they have it under control) any mink farming has shown to be a major bio-risk. China has to reconsider the way they deal with animals-for now especialy with minks-otherwise this pandemic only will get worse..

DJ-China now claims it is uncertain where this pandemic started. There are some findings in Europe (etc) indicating the Covid19 virus may have been more widespread earlier then the first reported Chinese case. China claims India may have played a role...It is "very hard" if not impossible-to find out how this pandemic started. We still do not know how exactly the Spanish Flu started and when-in 1917-with a milder flu as step 1 ??? Was the covid19-virus already widespread in 2019-or earlier-and just one or two steps away from infecting humans ? But mink farming now in China is asking for problems....

-The UK has been following vaccine developments since october 1. That they are the first country to accept Pfizer should not be a surprise. (DJ In the EU the EMA has to look at both Pfizer and Moderna also to decide for what group of people those vaccines are "most fitting". They both seem to give "some stronger side effects" "not welcome in the old and vulnarable" so these vaccines may be used for health care workers, first responders etc-supposed to be in good health. By vaccination health care workers (HCW) you provide indirect protection to those who these HCW work for/with.)

DJ-Since there are billions of $ to be made out of deals with vaccines it is very likely it will increase bribes and corruption. It could be indirect-if a country does not accept US-for profit-vaccines-there may not be other US investments...(We did see this when Belgium did not join the US war on Iraq in 2003-a GM-Ford car factory was closed..)

-Italy will start vaccination january 23-26-that is six/seven weeks later then the UK (DJ-EU member till 1-1-2021-Brexit will give further complications also in medication trade between the UK and EU..). 

A lot of other EU countries will start vaccinations in january. Dr.J.C. Vaccination with Pfizer-after one week after first vaccination some protection-after three weeks-the second vaccination-and it may take another 10 days-so 31 days after the first vaccination-before you get protection. (DJ-Did he not earlier claim six WEEKS after the second vaccination-he may have meant six DAYS...) Still with a limited number of vaccines available (and crime trying to get hold of them....! DJ) vaccines may start to have a very limited effect (end of) february 2021...

DJ-The way numbers are increasing now-early december-staff for vaccinations may get problematic in january. Certainly with deep frozen vaccines-hospital admission-it is a "complicayed job"...

-Anti Vax claim M-RNA will change the DNA-it does not work that way-it is DNA-RNA-proteine..DJ-if-at first-some groups-do not want to get vaccinated-with a shortage of vaccines-others have better chances on getting vaccination. (DJ-The safety of some vaccines-for some groups-may be another discussion. Also PP/CM claiming Ivermectin does a perfect job in preventing/cure for Covid19 may be "interesting". DJ-I think there may be some groups insusceptible for corona-virus. (Due to their DNA) If this would be a large group-not needing a vaccination it may help in getting herd immunity). 

DJ-I think experiences with vaccines will give dynamics. If people have limited side effects and do not get Covid19 most other people will get vaccinations. If there are a lot of side effects-or vaccinated people do get Covid it will influence the numbers as well. In NL there is some discussion on how fast we can get all of the almost 17.5 population vaccinated. One year ? Or faster ? It also depends on when what vaccines will be available...how complicated a vaccination is. (Deep Freeze-two shots=hospital, fridge one vaccination (Johnson&Johnson ?) may be GP).

-In the US both Pfizer and Moderna vaccinations could start in december (with several millions of vaccines-on a population of 331 million-it can help). 

-US numbers; trend is upward. Dr. Robert Redfield-CDC US deaths in february may be 450.000, worst may still be ahead (DJ-Indirect deaths by then could be double that number-getting close to 1 million...) Worst health crises the US has had-(worse then 1918/19 ??? DJ-It most likely will get to that point...social behaviour this month-NOW-can make a change. Clear communications can make a change...but ambulance services already overstretched-with increases on their way...)

-UK Both new cases and deaths-so far-going down (except in Wales-now getting stricter regulations). Pfizer will give 400.000  vaccine (two shots) some protection this month...AstraZeneca/Oxford may get available in the UK later on in december. Dr.J.C. vaccinations will make start being a factor in april...(DJ-Summer, vitamin D, ventialtion-by then-will help..)

-Below the video- lots of links-also to two text books Dr.J.C. has written wich is a very nice gesture...

DJ-Let me be as clear and honest as I can. I am NOT a scientist at all-just "a big mouth" trying to make some sense...YOU can DO a LOT !!!!!! YOU CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE !!!!!! NPI works ! Trying to limit social contacts can slow down-even end-this pandemic ! 

The situation in many parts of the world is moving towards a major crisis. Such a crisis (mixed with political, economic , climate chaos) can "get very dangerous" we all should do ALL we can-this month-to limit the spread. Even more then we have done so far...

Music-O baby love-Mothers Finest 1977 [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC7_LAklaHo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC7_LAklaHo 

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Maybe take some time for "self reflection". I do not have any medical-or science background. What am I doing on this forum for this long ? 

I try to make sense of risks. Since-more or less-the start of the present Covid19 pandemic I try to get a picture of how dangerous this risk may become in "scenario's". I do have a limited history background-pandemics, the weather, are historical factors-main actors often. 

My "sources" all have their own background and limitations. [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/critical-information-about-covid-19-if-your-doctor-is-not-doing-this-it-is-malpractice[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/critical-information-about-covid-19-if-your-doctor-is-not-doing-this-it-is-malpractice Hal Turner following Peak Prosperity/Chris Martenson. Interesting !

Hal Turner is an extreme right wing American-following trump. Chris Martenson tries to "stay above politics"-has a Md-and decades of practice-but is also working for an investment fund...

Dr. John Campbell [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm45WPaZz-g[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm45WPaZz-g has been giving medical training for decades-loves his job. Has medical experience "in the field" around the globe-in some ways very "British"...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/uighurs-forced-to-eat-pork-horror-stories-told-by-chinese-defector-seem-to-evolve.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/uighurs-forced-to-eat-pork-horror-stories-told-by-chinese-defector-seem-to-evolve.html articles often written by "b"...Not all articles are "top quality"-good comments though...

[url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/another-1523-coronavirus-cases-tallied/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/another-1523-coronavirus-cases-tallied/  see [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debkafile[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debkafile 

[url]http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2020/12/polar-ward-climate-zones-shift-and-consequent-tipping-points.html[/url] or http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2020/12/polar-ward-climate-zones-shift-and-consequent-tipping-points.html 

DJ-Perception may give tunnelvision. "Follow the evidence" (Dr.J.C.) sounds great-but often "evidence comes late-or not at all". Our government in NL claims "to make a 100% of the decissions based on 50% of what we need to know". Following this pandemic has a lot of angles to choose from. One can choose to only go for the medical story, or a national story...maybe-with the right background-this pandemic will bring a new generation of virologists, epidemologists, microbiologists etc...that is good-they will be needed. 

Since every pandemic has international socio-economic impacts communications are a main factor. 

I already had a history background-one may claim "history is not a science" and-to some degree be correct. Historians disagree on a lot of things. The reason why it is hard to "learn from history" is even with the right questions you get many different answers...

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries is one of the many sites "only giving some numbers". 

DJ-In my perception in this pandemic "big pharma" did win. Non Pharma Intervention (NPI) may have worked in keeping numbers low/under control-in some parts of the globe. Vaccinations have to "rescue" us. Since we are in a new cold war-[url]https://www.rt.com/russia/508790-moscow-starts-mass-vaccination/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/russia/508790-moscow-starts-mass-vaccination/ western "independent"media have to report Russian Sputnik-V a-was not yet finished testing, b-vaccination only started-by Putin order-because the UK was also ready to start vaccination, c-most Russians do not trust the vaccine...

Still-the info I get-is most of the world may go for Russian, Chinese or European vaccines for economic reasons (free or cheap, no deepfreeze storage). 

What is left out of the discussion on this pandemic-most of the time-is the reasons on why a pandemic "had to happen". The way "we"as humans deal with animals is "unwise". Overpopulation, airtravel means high speed virus transport to super breeding grounds around the globe. Climate collapse put a lot of species close to extinction...

Just over 200 years ago most people believed Earth was the center of the universe-created by a christian god a few thousend years earlier..Based on that perception "white christians"were "top of creation"-had a right to trade in people with a black skin-non believers-as cattle. 

The "god-given order of things" meant a small elite "owned the planet". Poverty was the will of their god. Praying the only healthcare available for most...

How much has changed since those days ? People get older-till 1900 the average age for most to "go" was around 35-40. Science did change a lot. Revolutions also did bring changes-from the independence of the US 1776, the French revolution 1789, to the Russian revolution 1917 "groups of people"did no longer accept the "god-given order of things"...in many ways the Chinese "revolution"1949, and the Iranian one in 1979 fit in with that pattern. 

Western "democracies" "are not at their best"-it has become to much every dollar, euro, yen counts...[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/as-crazed-lefties-loom-u-s-supreme-court-closes-building-until-further-notice[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/as-crazed-lefties-loom-u-s-supreme-court-closes-building-until-further-notice 

DJ-A lot of my "sources"claim the US situation is "critical". It is beyond my field of knowledge to see how things may develop in the US. Hal Turner has-behind paywall "Massive US military moves within CONUS" and [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/pentagon-blocks-biden-transition-team[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/pentagon-blocks-biden-transition-team 

You always have to look at a pandemic at its backgrounds. The Spanish Flu only became as deadly due to World War 1. Almost 1 in 4,5 cases of  (tested/reported-worldwide) Covid19 are-at present-in the US. Almost 1 out of 5 pandemic deaths are in the US...

The trump government did put a lot of money in vaccines-but since the US elections dealing with the pandemic has gone to US states and cities..doing the best they can. It may become a crisis soon...

DJ-Some other remarks/questions;

-If-as many experts claim-a much larger part of the population has had Covid19 infection (in the US it would be-even by the CDC claim-be over a 100 million-maybe by now 1/3 of the US population) and chances for reinfections are supposed to be "very limited"-why then work with the idea of vaccinating ALL of the population ? Would some form of testing-and only vaccinating those (voluntary) who did not yet see a form of infection be the more clever way to use vaccines ? There will be a shortage anyway...

-[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/very-senior-israeli-mossad-official-assassinated-in-tel-aviv[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/very-senior-israeli-mossad-official-assassinated-in-tel-aviv and the MoA-[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/uighurs-forced-to-eat-pork-horror-stories-told-by-chinese-defector-seem-to-evolve.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/uighurs-forced-to-eat-pork-horror-stories-told-by-chinese-defector-seem-to-evolve.html Did Iran kill a senior Mossad official ? Is the US/trump preparing "military action" against Iran ? China ? 

DJ-As always-I hope I am very wrong. A major US or global crisis in this-already worsening-pandemic may be "dramatic"..

Music-polyphonic overtone singing-[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9Qh709gas[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9Qh709gas (An old technique-forgotten in most music cultures [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna-Maria_Hefele[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna-Maria_Hefele

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-[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/2021-will-be-catastrophic-un-warns-humanitarian-crisis-270-million-people-starve[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/2021-will-be-catastrophic-un-warns-humanitarian-crisis-270-million-people-starve Can it be there are billions to save companies but in 2021 no money "for the poor "? 

-a look-as most of the times-on [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries ;

-As expected Poland and Iran #13 and #14 in the over 1 million cases list. Turkey and Ukraine may be next to join that "club".

-India may soon be the second country-after the US-to cross the 10 million cases.

-In the cases per million list-of the larger countries Czechia=#1, Belgium=#2, USA=#3, Switzerland=#4, Israel=#5, Spain, France,Austria, Netherlands and Argentina make the top 10

-In the deaths per million-larger countries; Belgium#1, Peru#2, Italy#3, Spain#4, UK#5, Argentina#6, US#7, Mexico#8, France#9, Czechia#10

DJ-These statistics are based on tested and reported cases. Both testing and reporting are-at best-far from perfect. The number of a/pre symptomatic cases/spread may be between 20 and 40%-a lot of cases are under the radar. Dr.J.C./CDC over 100 million cases so far in the US-with only 15% of them being reported...

If those high numbers are correct-1/3 of the US already did have Covid19 where is "herd immunity" in the story ? Numbers seem to be increasing-no sign of herd immunity at all...

As pressure on healthcare increases in many countries (US, Russia etc) non-covid19 problems will increase fast. 

Staff is becoming more and more a problem in healthcare. Even in countries still with limited numbers the duration of pressure on healthcare starts showing. 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nj-reports-record-6k-new-covid-cases-us-tops-200k-4th-straight-day-live-updates[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nj-reports-record-6k-new-covid-cases-us-tops-200k-4th-straight-day-live-updates 

US

Allthough the only one-as far as I know-reporting it [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/ there may be a conflict in the US military on who will be US president ? (Or is HT only trying to get more money in ?)

VIQueen24 shared a.o. this on dec 1;

Two key dates loom in December. On December 14, presidential electors must have been selected by the states and will meet as a group in their states to cast electoral votes for president and vice president. But December 8 is also a significant date, the so-called “safe harbor” date. The Electoral Count Act sets this date as an important date for states to make their official selection of electors, as those electoral votes will be given greater protection from challenge when Congress counts the electoral votes in January. The Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore assigned great significance to this date in Bush v. Gore.

DJ-so tomorrow-8 december and just over 1 week-14 december key dates. Since trump-and some of his followers (and a lot of critical alternative media) claim the november 3 elections were a fraud "there may be political unrest" in the US. 

WAR

[url]https://southfront.org/fake-assassination-of-top-mossad-agent-near-tel-aviv-and-other-iranian-media-victories/[/url] or https://southfront.org/fake-assassination-of-top-mossad-agent-near-tel-aviv-and-other-iranian-media-victories/ 

Turkey is active again;

[url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkish-forces-launch-heavy-attack-in-northeastern-syria/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkish-forces-launch-heavy-attack-in-northeastern-syria/ fighting SDF/Kurds in Syria.

[url]https://southfront.org/haftar-forces-attack-turkish-proxies-in-southern-libya/[/url] or https://southfront.org/haftar-forces-attack-turkish-proxies-in-southern-libya/  "Turkish proxies alqaeda/IS terrorists"

[url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkeys-defense-minister-boasts-of-turkish-weapons-liberating-karabakh-from-armenian-occupiers/[/url] or https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkeys-defense-minister-boasts-of-turkish-weapons-liberating-karabakh-from-armenian-occupiers/ 

DJ-If Turkey moves in they want to stay...in Libya, Qatar, Syria, Iraq, Karabakh. Cyprus...Turkeys over activity in the region may shift Arab attention away from Iran. In fact Egypt is almost at war with Turkey over Libya...getting support from France, Greece-just like Turkey-NATO members...

At the Covid-total reported cases list Turkey is at #16, Ukraine-an ally of Turkey #18, Iran#14, Iraq#21, Israel#32, KSA#31 Egypt# 60, Jordan#39, wars and pandemics mix perfectly...

Music; 1977 SAm Olivia Newton-John [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubPEhzeSzc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubPEhzeSzc (from [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Newton-John#Early_life[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Newton-John#Early_life ;

Newton-John was born on 26 September 1948[3] in Cambridge, United Kingdom, to Welshman Brinley "Bryn" Newton-John (1914–1992) and Irene Helene (née Born) (1914–2003).[3] Her Jewish maternal grandfather, Nobel Prize-winning physicist Max Born,[4][5][6][7] fled with his family to Britain from Germany before World War II to escape the Nazi regime. Newton-John's maternal grandmother was of paternal Jewish ancestry as well. She is a third cousin of comedian Ben Elton.[4] Her maternal great-grandfather was jurist Victor Ehrenberg and her matrilineal great-grandmother's father was jurist Rudolf von Jhering.

Newton-John's father was an MI5 officer[8] on the Enigma project at Bletchley Park who took Rudolf Hess into custody during World War II.[9][10] After the war, he became Headmaster at Cambridgeshire High School for Boys and was in that role when Olivia was born.

Newton-John is the youngest of three children, following brother Hugh (1939–2019), a medical doctor, and sister Rona (1941–2013) (an actress who was married to Grease co-star Jeff Conaway from 1980 until their divorce in 1985). In 1954, when she was six, her family emigrated to Melbourne, Australia, where her father worked as a professor of German and as master of Ormond College at the University of Melbourne.[11]

She attended Christ Church Grammar School in the Melbourne suburb of South Yarra[12] and then University High School near Ormond College.

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Josh, so funny you mention Olivia Newton John.  This spring, I quit getting satellite radio in the car, ($$$), and just put a bunch of CD's in the car to listen to instead.  Last week I took my mother down to the next town on an errand, and had ONJ playing, and my mother observed she couldn't remember the last time she heard ONJ on the radio.  This led to a discussion about the sad state of affairs with so many 70's artists that we both love, that they are beginning to die off, or are too old or ill to perform anymore.

Tomorrow, as you mentioned, is a big day, with the Safe Harbor, although few in the US realize it.  The other big day with be next Monday, with the actual casting of the electoral votes.  And then we will have five weeks for Trump to act before his presidency is over.  Who else will he pardon?  What kind of laws and practices might he enact to make the Biden administration's work more difficult?  Will he leave the country, as his niece Mary believes? Stay tuned...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tvnews/former-executive-vp-of-trump-org-thinks-trump-will-leave-the-country-before-biden-inauguration/vi-BB1bH68J

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VQ24-When ONJ-the BeeGees -both BAA-British-Australian-American (ONJ even with some German background) had "Grease"and "Saterday Night Fever" I hated it at the time. We now had an "Evergreen top 1000", now a top 4000, from christmas till new years eve a top 2000..ONJ, BeeGees (and ABBA etc) make me smile...looking back teenagers can sometimes overreact...also in "hating" some sorts of music-when you grow older you make your own choices...

On trump...The US is moving into a very major crisis full speed. We-here in Europe-at the same time may be very close to a Brexit-crisis. (The UK army preparing for transport of Pfizer vaccines from Belgium-if roads get blocked by trucks trying to get into the UK). A "hard Brexit" may have consequences for Ireland-medical supplies being on the wrong side of the North Sea...

DJ-this will be a GRIM story...

-[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries numbers of monday-dec 7-reflecting less reporting/testing on sunday-still high numbers, still the US is overrepresented. On dec 4 we did see a so far record number of daily new cases-just over 687.000. Will it be later on this month or next month we cross the 1 million daily new cases line ? 

On december 3 we had 12.839 new reported, tested Covid19 deaths worldwide-we will see between 30.000 and 40.000 deaths per day next month...

December is a shopping and family month. Children have a right to education-school. Vaccines may give a false sense of safety-at best vaccines may bring some safety next summer....

Also here in NL-after stagnation-numbers are increasing. The duration of pressure on healthcare is a growing factor. I (DJ) with my very limited knowledge-just an awfull big mouth-expect healthcare collapse widespread for months early 2021...Russia-and some other countries/states may already be there. Politics-elections in many places-may tend to hide "how bad it is". 

In such a scenario statistics get empty. There will be very limited reporting-most crisis will be in non-Covid19 patients that did their best not to get Covid19. Already-if the US may have seen over a 100 million cases-statistics/testing missed over 85% of the cases-other countries often may do worse...(Another part of this is 1/3 of the US population should have some herd immunity effect-not showing at all...) 

I (DJ) think spread in children, reinfections are (very) underestimated. "We" expect to much to soon from vaccines...[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/worrying-truth-about-new-opec-agreement[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/worrying-truth-about-new-opec-agreement; Continuing optimism about a possible oil market recovery in H1 2021 is largely based on the wishful thinking of OPEC leaders, such as Saudi Arabia, and an irrational view on the positive effects of COVID vaccines on the global economy. The economic effects of a global vaccination scheme, which will likely take 6-18 months due to logistics, financial restraints and political strategies, are going to be minimal in the short term. OECD markets are unlikely to recover in H1 2021, as the availability of the vaccine is going to be a major issue. At the same time, OPEC+ seems to misunderstand that OECD economies are on life-support, it is only financial support mechanisms that are keeping these countries afloat. In 2021 most of these financial injections or QE mechanisms will be put on ice, as debt levels are reaching disastrous levels. A major economic downturn should be expected, and such a downturn would have a direct effect on oil and gas demand.

DJ-Then the India story; [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/mystery-disease-strikes-india-mass-hospitalization-one-dead[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/mystery-disease-strikes-india-mass-hospitalization-one-dead and [url]https://www.rt.com/news/508861-india-msysterious-illness-1-dead-eluru/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/news/508861-india-msysterious-illness-1-dead-eluru/ ;

DJ-If ALL of these cases test negative for Covid19-ALL of them-it is a statisticly significant indication for a Covid19 link. If you would test 250 people at random in the streets of Europe, US, Brazil or India some would have to test positive for Covid19-it is very widespread. If NONE would show up in a "new illness" while the Covid19 virus must be widespread the virus may have changed enough to avoid detection...Again-I do not have any medical background-in India enviromental issues often occur-although the water seems to be not a factor...

[url]https://sputniknews.com/science/202011011080948992-2020-its-not-funny-anymore-scientists-discover-deadly-new-genetic-disease/[/url] or https://sputniknews.com/science/202011011080948992-2020-its-not-funny-anymore-scientists-discover-deadly-new-genetic-disease/ DJ- Most of the times auto immune diseases show up more in women-this disease only hits men.

-Dr. John Campbell with another up date [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oFPU628JCs[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oFPU628JCs

 -Dr.J.C. "Europe is seeing a drop in cases" (DJ-No it is not !!! [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/ , also NL going up-a lot of countries show stagnation-Ukraine, Turkey soon may be other hot zones.) the US and Canada (DJ-and Brazil) cases going up-very limited testing in lots of places...

 -Dr.J.C. loves good news-Australia (for the moment) is doing very well...DJ-[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/ is showing you only have to have a small introduction-somehow-of a (few) new case(s) to end up in another crisis...China is staying on top of things-Australia and New Zealand did learn their lesson by limiting people getting into their country and isolating them...

 -University of Washington-US deaths by april 1-539.000, vaccines can save 9000 lives in the US, masks going up to 95% can save 66.000 lives...NPI, ventilation, masks has to do the job. Russia, China already vaccinating on a somewhat larger scale. The UK will start today-but it takes 31 days to get protection from a vaccination-and vaccination will be limited.

 -Dr.J.C. Why had the US FDA a FOUR DAY thanksgiving break-is the US slow in starting vaccination. The EU-due to burocrazy-is even slower (DJ-Switzerland is even more slow-wants the vaccines to be proven safe before starting vaccination). DJ-Somehow it could send the message autorities do not fully trust vaccinations...

 -Washington University only 15% of US population did see infection (=about 50 million). Others-CDC-come to 30%-Dr.J.C. the 30% more likely-DJ-Why does that not translate in decreasing spread ? Does infection only give limited immunity ? 

 -Dr.J.C.; a lot of "leaders" go "do what I say-not what I do" breaking their own rules-not taking any responsibility for their faillures. 

 -Brazil-testing very limited-basicly no health care for the poor-they die from small causes (apendix etc). But now even for the small rich (criminal) elite in private healthcare a crisis is on its way. Most people know there is a virus-but see it as a daily risk-crisis will show next year...

 -Taking responsibility for experts is a problem; June 8 (!!!!!) Maria van Kerkhove-WHO asymptomatic spread is rare and not a problem-of course she was very wrong but still siiting in her position. Here in NL Marianne Koopmans in februari stated NL was not at risk for this pandemic because we had no direct flights from Wuhan...this virologist (Rotterdam University Hospital "Erasmus") still works as an advisor for the WHO (and to be fair also does make better comments most of the time...)

Some other notes;

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/who-envoy-life-wont-return-normal-least-2-years[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/who-envoy-life-wont-return-normal-least-2-years 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bank-japan-now-biggest-owner-japanese-stocks-434-billion-portfolio[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bank-japan-now-biggest-owner-japanese-stocks-434-billion-portfolio DJ-Central banks bying stocks to "hide the crisis"...buying time-only works if there will be a recovery soon..

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Of course Venezuela did have elections-the west "supports the right wing/semi fascist opposition" calling for a boycot-so 31% of the population went to vote-the US/EU do not recognize the results... still [url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55211972[/url] or https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55211972 a 33% participation in Romania is not a problem ? In some Dutch (provincial) elections participation often is <50%, sometimes even below 40%....Here in NL we have seen two recent "elections" in political parties (Christian Democrats-CDA and "forum for democracy"(=neonazi with a tie) that are "very doubtfull". (Longer ago our present PM became leader of the liberal conservative party VVD-by "putting aside" a woman-Rita Verdonk-that did get more votes. The EU has a parliament that can not send the EU government away-more or less. (In some cosmetics they can send the European Commission away only to see it return-the EU government is made by the governments of member states). 

The US election system may be in need for some reforms-not via electors-but one (wo)man one vote (the French President gets elected that way). ? I do think the Dutch system of national parlement elections-with also small parties getting in parlement. I feel somewhat represented by a smaller party...( in my case an animals rights party-I am not neutral).

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/bidens-jcpoa-plus-plus-deal-with-iran-is-not-a-realistic-option.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/bidens-jcpoa-plus-plus-deal-with-iran-is-not-a-realistic-option.html DJ-It would be welcome if a Biden US government would return to the original Irandeal-there are so many other problems to deal with..[url]https://southfront.org/the-biggest-ever-flotilla-of-iranian-tankers-is-en-route-to-venezuela-with-fuel/[/url] or https://southfront.org/the-biggest-ever-flotilla-of-iranian-tankers-is-en-route-to-venezuela-with-fuel/ 

Russia/Ukraine-[url]https://southfront.org/failed-ukrainian-special-operation-new-details-on-armed-clash-on-ukrainian-russian-border/[/url] or https://southfront.org/failed-ukrainian-special-operation-new-details-on-armed-clash-on-ukrainian-russian-border/

DJ-Turkey is in the middle of Ukraine, Syria, Iran-still a NATO member-on purpose ? Is it following a NATO plan (with IS/alquada-Sunni Gulf dictatorship funded) by "working with Russia/Iran" for its own goals ? In a war with Iran Turkey-Israel-KSA/Sunni dictatorships together may be a major factor-certainly if Pakistan would join such a coalition. The goal would be to end Russian link to the Indian Ocean and China having a link to Europe/Africa. 

Climate 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/nat-gas-plunges-december-could-end-top-3-warmest-all-time[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/nat-gas-plunges-december-could-end-top-3-warmest-all-time 

Music-No Fun The Sex Pistols (for the US Se. Pistol-like weapons) [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RPvfJXh-n0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RPvfJXh-n0 

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I'm not going to quote everything just to cut it down to what I'm commenting on... sorry!  Not enough coffee.

But I did want to say this: There seems to be a disconnect that it benefits society on the whole if society provides these three things to children... ALL children...

1.  Food Security
2. Healthcare
3. An Education

These three things are less about entitlement and more about the benefits to society as these children become adults.  Better to pay for education and the rest now than to have children left behind and wind up stealing and dealing in the streets.  Before any conservatives go nuts, the rest is up to families.  It's not up to the State to teach children ethics and morals.  You can teach a child stealing is wrong, but if they're hungry, sick and don't have the proper education to get a decent job to pay for food and medicine... these children are going to survive any way they can.

That being said, the at-home learning here in the U.S. has been tremendously fouled up according to the seven teachers in different states I have among my family and friends.  So yeah... I see why parents are insisting that if infection rates are low in schools that they're demanding schools remain open.  

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Our government here (not perfect - but trying - - OK, sometimes very trying!) has a mantra about schools: "Last to close, first to open".  That seems to say it all really, not off of the list, just at the bottom.  The loss of educational days is particularily damaging and the covid risks are particularily light - not abscent - just light.  

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[url]https://www.unicef.org/coronavirus/covid-19#latest-covid-updates[/url] or https://www.unicef.org/coronavirus/covid-19#latest-covid-updates lots of info on children and this pandemic-in lots of countries...Worldwide 1 in 5 children now not going to school. In kenya-as an example-for months. Boys start "working"/trying to make a living-lots of young girls end up pregnant...(AIDS must get a boost from Covid19)

Here in NL the pandemic seems to be-most of the time-less active in the north. Still I believe a strict lockdown-for all-for a month may make a difference. The longer before there are serious NPI-the less there will be support for it...

A lot of new cases show up in the young-still not getting very ill. But a main motor behind the pandemic...There was a discussion on an extra week (so total three weeks) school hollidays around christmas and new year to get that spread down. For now our government has not decided to take that step. 

Germany [url]https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-germany-is-no-longer-a-role-model/a-55857791[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-germany-is-no-longer-a-role-model/a-55857791 may be slowly moving into closing schools-as a last step...

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A look at the numbers [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ with the US showing close to record numbers-for dec 8-2913 deaths-just short of the dec 3-2926 record number. On dec 4 the US did see over 238.000-so yesterday over 208.000 new cases is "low". Still in new cases the US yesterday reported more cases then the next 5 countries combined. Out of the over 584.000 new cases worldwide 238.000-more then 1/3 were from the US. Of the 11.714 reported worldwide deaths-2913 were from the US-1/4th....

Allthough lots of countries are in a coronacrisis-the US may be in the most major one from the "rich western countries". Still Brazil, Russia have reports of healthcare collapsing (as well). 

On the US; [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/ominous-u-s-positioning-naval-vessels-off-east-west-coasts-massive-troop-movements-in-conus[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/ominous-u-s-positioning-naval-vessels-off-east-west-coasts-massive-troop-movements-in-conus claims of the US supreme court canceling the outcome of the US elections go on. (I-DJ-take the HT story with a grain/kilo of salt-some may take it much more serious-can be of risk.)

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDsjCeDpwVU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDsjCeDpwVU BP EarthWatch-The US will be sun facing when there will be a solar flare-causing increased risk of earthquakes-DJ-I did take a look at USGS-then turned to BP-in my eyes there was an increased sysmic activity-hope it stays limited...(DJ:-1 If The US is facing that solar flare other countries will be facing it as well-Mexico, Caribbean-even Canada/Greenland have (some) seismic activity, 2-This is not "science"yet-but "statistical coincidence"-if earthquakes are that predictable the USGS would use that knowledge..)

-PP/CM-on censorship [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE2EcKm5Uj4[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE2EcKm5Uj4 ; The Ivermectin showing to be effective-according to YouTube was "not science based" (DJ-Who is YouTube to make such a claim ? I am willing to see a "warning" but just taking that video out goes to cencorship. Dutchsinse has experienced the same in the past-while he had some good points. "Working on the edge of science" means you have to be carefull in the words you use. YouTube still spreads a lot of garbage but blocks PP/CM on Ivermectin...)

 -PP/CM shows an MD in a US Senate hearing asking why all the money went to "new drugs and vaccines" and so little to the drugs already around-with proven safety record-and cheap. (Like Ivermectin,Vitamins, HCQ-used in many poor countries). 

DJ-The CDC(s-like in other countries) NIH, FDA, WHO failed during this pandemic. They are the dinosaurs working for self interests, carreers-not for the common good. They still go on promoting often expensive "new" medications/vaccines and frustrate cheap NPI that could have stopped this pandemic months ago...

 -Ivermectin seems to be very effective in dealing with Covid19-not in bringing in profits for the big pharma maffia. (Sorry if this is insulting the maffia..). DJ-We have the term "banksters" who managed to get their crimes/fraud legal. Money speaks...not votes. 

DJ-In history the story is written by "criminals covering up their crimes". Who financed hitler is an unwelcome question. Who is enabling wars-financing it ? Who is behind IS/alqaeda providing also an excuse for "war on terror"? Who is on top of the drug/cocaine/heroin global trade ? Unwelcome questions-but maybe most of the money is made in what still is illegal trade..bigger then the legal trade done by more honest people. 

DJ-I do not see another video of Dr. John Campbell-most likely he escapes youtube censorship. YouTube should ask itself-do we realy want to go for "funny kittens, mascara tips, gossip"? Or is there room for good info ? (Like [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5kEzxOb-3c[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5kEzxOb-3c -yes it is on "Atlantis/Atlantes" linking it to "Atlas" mountains in North Africa not harming (yet) any major institution...)

-NL situation update [url]https://coronadashboard.government.nl/[/url] or https://coronadashboard.government.nl/;

Increase in newly reported COVID-19 infections is cause for concern

Last week there was a 27% increase in COVID-19 positives compared with the week before. In the week from 2 to 8 December 43,103 newly tested COVID-19 positives were reported. This is an increase of 9,000 COVID-19 positives compared to the 33,949 COVID-19 positives reported the week before. In each safety region the number of newly tested positives also increased. More people have been tested. The percentage of people with a positive test result raised from 11.1% to 11.6% last week. The reproduction number of 20 November has a value of 1.00 (lower: 0.97; upper: 1.03).

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DJ,

-Before going to the statistics some short notes;

 -In NL all minks have been killed that were living on minkfarms. Denmark did the same earlier-still if other countries (China !!!) now increase mink farming the results on bio-hazards are "very limited". [url]https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2020/12/articles/animals/other-animals/covid-19-on-a-mink-farm-canada/[/url] or https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2020/12/articles/animals/other-animals/covid-19-on-a-mink-farm-canada/ (DJ-Most likely a lot of outbreaks on minkfarms simply get ignored-as long as their furs can be harvested and the work is done by people "we dump" if any problems show up-often foreign workers returned to their "own" country...)

 -In Barcelona-Catalunya/Spain in a zoo four lions (3F-1M) tested positive for Covid19-so did some Zoo-workers. DJ-This underlines how easy it seems to be for the virus to jump into cat-like animals. So far there are no indications (but maybe also no testing for it) on spread between (wild) cats of the virus or cats infecting humans. With the growing/exploding number of cases that will only be a matter of time.

 -Angela Merkel had another good speech in German parliament yesterday;-If people visit their grandparents this christmas their next visit will be their funaral-it will be the last christmas with their grandparents. Also-the global economy is shifting. China is growing fast while the US, Europe are in crisis...DJ-Both Germany and NL (working a lot together-Angela Merkel in power for almost 20 years and "our" PM Mark Rutte-around for 10 years or so like eachother-have good, constructive contact. That contact improved due to "other leaders doing a bad job") are close to strict lockdowns to bring the numbers down...

 The  december 9 numbers [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries are not breaking records yet-worldwide. The US number of deaths is a new record. Of the new global cases over 1 in 3 was from the US, of the deaths over 1 in 4 is a US death...The US is becoming more and more the motor behind this pandemic. Unwilling to close borders or accept other countries to close their borders for US citizens.

The US did cross the 200.000 new cases line first-as an incident-nov 20. From dec 2 getting over that line seems to be the "new normal". Hospital cases have been going up for some time-deaths do increase even faster...(in %). One may expect the number of (excess) deaths to "explode" in the US. Hospitals being unable to deal with the influx-already stop admitting the less severe cases and have to go for triage-on "days of life that can be saved" soon. (Russia may be in this scenario as well, rich people from Brazil may seek treatment in other countries-like the US or China). In the EU Germany is the country with a lot of reserves in hospital/ICU care both in beds and staff-but they may run out of capacity soon as well..

The political situation in the US is bad. Trump may be able-via a supreme court decision-to stay in power. Such an outcome would end the "United"in United States-also end the US global leadership...already weak due to endless, pointless wars, trade conflicts even with long term US friends...

Dr. John Campbell another update (in his last update-to put it simply-US=bad, Europe=good in dealing with the pandemic simply incorrect...) [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fXn1PCU2E8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fXn1PCU2E8 ;

-UK expecting 5 million doses of Pfizer this year-to vaccinate 2,5 million. The US may start vaccinations soon as well. In the EU a decission will be taken december 29 by the European Medication Authority after wich member states have to take their own decissions..DJ-Already for NL Pfizer will deliver less vaccines later-not the end of december but early january and 0,5 million instead of the 1 million. Production problems are given as the reason-shortage of a raw material..In the NetherLands (NL) these vaccines will be used for people working in care centers-to provide indirect care. Vaccines will be given at a few-limited-number of central locations. The storage/usage of the Pfizer vaccines make them less easy to use when you have to go to people needing a vaccination. 

-Two allergic reactions in people who did have allergic reactions earlier. Those reactions are easy to treat, not a big surprise, should not stop mass vaccinations.

-First peer reviewed study on any Covid19/SARS-2 vaccine inThe Lancet on the AstraZeneca-Oxford (AZ-O) vaccine. This vaccine is based on chimpansee-adeno virus. (Pfizer/Biontech and Moderna are messenger RNA so far they only had press releases-no studies) Testtrials in UK, Brazil, South Africa in 18+ age groups . (We do not yet know how the vaccine works out in children-DJ of course there is a lot of experience in vaccinating (young) children for other illnesses, we may have still to decide on vaccination from what age groups-12 y/o ? 8 y/o ?)

-In the AZ-O group test vaccinated 30 people showed Covid19 infection, in the control group 101. Some in the test group had at first a half dosis (22/50th) followed by a full (50 billion viral particles) dose. (Low Dose versus Standard Dose-LD/SD) In that subgroup 3 of the vaccinated showed Covid 19 infection, 30 of the test group showed infection=90% effectivity. 

-The Low Dose/Standard Dose with SIX weeks between them also did give less asymptomatic infections (so also less pandemic spread). (The UK subgroup going for the LD/SD six weeks trial was a bit younger but it may not matter (much) for the outcome..) Protection after 21 days after first vaccination-100% protecting against severe Covid19 in test group.

-DJ-The AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine seems to be good, low cost. AZ-O willing to allow production all over the world. Russia and China also mass producing vaccines. Vaccines making a difference is better then expected. (I did read on this forum Moderna having a basic vaccine already in january-but testing/accepting takes time.)

[url]https://www.rt.com/usa/509162-billionaires-wealth-explodes-covid/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/usa/509162-billionaires-wealth-explodes-covid/ DJ-As always some happen to be on a "winning side" of an event while others go bankrupt due to the same event. It should be governments role to "limit damages" and "care for all" -that is what taxation is all about !

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[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/china-hawks-outraged-about-bidens-defense-nominee.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/china-hawks-outraged-about-bidens-defense-nominee.html DJ-The pandemic is damaging the US very hard. The political crisis is even worsening the US. Income inequality, homelessness is a very major US problem. 

This weakens the US more and more...when a lot of US citizens fear their election is stolen (by or the democrats or the supreme court) and protesting against food shortages, losing their house the US gets less and less in a position to start yet another major war. US sanctions may harm the US more then the countries they are supposed to "limit". Russia-Iran-China (RIC) soon may be running the global financial world-and not in US$. 

With the US less in a global leader positions other countries try to be more dominant. [url]https://southfront.org/after-libya-karabakh-turkey-is-preparing-to-ship-its-syrian-proxies-to-kashmir-reports/[/url] or https://southfront.org/after-libya-karabakh-turkey-is-preparing-to-ship-its-syrian-proxies-to-kashmir-reports/ DJ-A Turkey-Iran-Pakistan (TIP) allience "to defend Islam" can create further (global) instability. 

[url]https://southfront.org/footage-of-epic-clash-between-chinese-and-indian-troops-in-ladakh-border-region/[/url] or https://southfront.org/footage-of-epic-clash-between-chinese-and-indian-troops-in-ladakh-border-region/ DJ China is the third (nuclear) country in the Kashmir conflict. 

Turkey and Iran work a lot with Russia, Iran, Pakistan are also main partners of China. But there are differences on religion and interests. Combined TIP has a population of close to 400 million (more then the US or Russia), they are aware of their strategic position and want "value for money"-not to be "partners at al cost". 

No music to end this update-a short history video on a 19th century major health risk-staircases [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1vqQi5Tl70[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1vqQi5Tl70 Stairs in the UK see 300.000 accidents per year today...


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In the Middle East, I see that Jordan is rapidly catching up with Israel's death rate (although their rate of testing, and therefore cases, is much much lower).  Also rising fast, but from a much lower starting base, are Lebanon and Palestine.   Meanwhile the countries in the Arab Peninsular seem to be over the worse (for now).

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-[url]https://www.debka.com/first-covid-vaccines-arrive-as-israels-ruling-party-splits-and-a-new-election-date-is-set/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/first-covid-vaccines-arrive-as-israels-ruling-party-splits-and-a-new-election-date-is-set/ A political crisis-just like in the US-is in Israel, Saudi Arabia. Pandemic pressure, in combination with "foreign developments" may destabilize all of the MENA (Middle East, North Africa). 

For Israel-how many elections can you have-for a national government (with Netanyahu trying to stay out of prison) ? They have a permanent political crisis. Netanyahu trying to balance between Trump and Putin. Now the fourth election in two years...

-[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/america-surrenders-china[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/america-surrenders-china Some claim the main US "weapon"during World War Two was the bulldozer-making airfields high speed. China may be able "to help the world" in this pandemic-the US may soon be in need of help...

-[url]https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/un-emissions-gap-report-covid-pandemic-climate-b1768008.html[/url] or https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/un-emissions-gap-report-covid-pandemic-climate-b1768008.html; The emissions of the world’s richest 1 per cent account for more than twice the combined share of the poorest 50 per cent

DJ-Inbalance leads to revolts...It is a small group of very rich people doing most of the damage-basicly 'the rich are destroying the planet". They are also a major factor in this pandemic by doing most of the viral spread by (air)travel..causing [url]https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/climate-crisis/2020/11/shocking-temperatures-across-arctic[/url] or https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/climate-crisis/2020/11/shocking-temperatures-across-arctic 

Angela Merkel ; [url]https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-angela-merkel-rocks-bundestag-with-pandemic-speech/a-55889232[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-angela-merkel-rocks-bundestag-with-pandemic-speech/a-55889232 ;

-If people "spend too much time with others, now just before Christmas, it could end up being the last celebration with the grandparents," Merkel said. "Surely then we would have messed up. We shouldn't do that."

-Germany holds the rotating presidency of the European Council until the end of 2020."Almost everything is still in flux," Merkel said, referring to the unresolved Brexit negotiations and the forthcoming budget for the bloc as Poland and Hungary exercise their veto power. This conflict could shake the EU to the core. 

-Merkel's stirring performance in the Bundestag on Wednesday made clear that she is fighting for Germans — with empathy, emotion and pathos. She is fighting the spread of the coronavirus and the financial impact of the pandemic, and she is fighting for the lives of thousands of people who have been put at risk. She is fighting for the future of Germany. 

DJ-Merkel has the nickname "Mutti" Mother of Germany...

To put the number of Covid  1,574,838 deaths-this year-in perspective (will we today get over the 70 million cases ? US get into 16 million cases-300.000 deaths ?) [url]https://www.worldometers.info/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/ also has 1,273,770 people killed in traffic this year. The suicide number of deaths 1,011,876...AIDS/HIV did kill 1,586,266 people this year, cancer 7,749,805 at the moment I write this...Smoking did kill 4,717,147 in 2020. Malaria "only"killing 372,104 people.

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"The political situation in the US is bad. Trump may be able-via a supreme court decision-to stay in power. Such an outcome would end the "United"in United States-also end the US global leadership...already weak due to endless, pointless wars, trade conflicts even with long term US friends..."

This scenario is extremely unlikely.  "Safe Harbor" has occurred, all 50 states and the District Of Columbia have certified the election results.  Almost all of Trump's legal options have been exhausted, resulting in him winning only two out of more than 50 cases.  The rest have been denied, dismissed or withdrawn.  Word has it that the filed cases are becoming increasingly desperate and sloppy.  Bottom line is that the main beneficiary of Trump's ploy seems to be Biden, who received a small quantity of votes via recounts.  And more than 1000 people, mostly legal eagles, have signed an open letter calling on bar associations to disavow the conduct of Trump's legal team.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lawyers-group-calls-for-disciplining-trump-legal-team-over-dangerous-fraud-allegations/ar-BB1bN6Nd

I believe that the Electoral College will make Joe Biden our 46th president on schedule next Monday, Dec. 14, and their votes will be delivered on Dec. 23, also as scheduled.  I do not believe the Supreme Court will decide otherwise.  They do not even have to take up the case -- by staying silent and allowing the system to work as described they will most likely make their statement, and they are unlikely to do otherwise, in order to stay above the fray.  I believe any other scenario is as likely as spotting a unicorn in the middle of a solar eclipse.

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"I believe any other scenario is as likely as spotting a unicorn in the middle of a solar eclipse."  Love It !

DJ-The world did get over the 70 million cases just now...or did they correct numbers-seems they changed some...???Most likely the US will get over the 16 million cases...300.000 deaths-another sad day...

South Africa

[url]https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/8-166-new-coronavirus-cases-reported-in-sa-173-related-deaths/[/url] or https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/8-166-new-coronavirus-cases-reported-in-sa-173-related-deaths/ ;

The department has reiterated the plea to South Africans to heed the threat of the rising numbers of COVID-19 cases identified. “There is clear evidence of an exponential rise in transmission and this is cause for serious concern.”

[url]https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/finance/the-uncomfortable-truth-surrounding-covid-19-vaccines/[/url] or https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/finance/the-uncomfortable-truth-surrounding-covid-19-vaccines/ ;

The United States has allocated the simply astonishing figure of $10 billion (R150 billion) to its Operation Warp Speed programme of vaccine development and production to ensure that it has access to sufficient doses.


The European Union has spent €2.4 billion (R44 billion) to immunise all 500 million of its citizens and hopes to begin a mass vaccine roll out in January.

The first country in the world to begin vaccinations, the United Kingdom has pre-ordered 340 million doses for an undisclosed amount of money, saying that details around how much it cost are ‘commercially sensitive’.

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But what of the rest of the world?

The outlook for the emerging world is rather less encouraging.

Klaus Stohr, a former official at the World Health Organisation, is worried.

“My major concern is that people in Southeast Asia, Africa, Latin America will not have a vaccine,” he said.

The majority of people in the world “will have no vaccine well into 2021, and most likely into 2022”.

The solution for everyone else is the WHO sponsored COVAX programme, which is meant to provide vaccines for those countries which have not been able, or simply cannot afford, pre-ordered doses.

South Africa is one of these countries.

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If South Africa has not secured sufficient doses, constant waves of Covid-19 threaten to disrupt the nascent economic recovery throughout the course of 2021 and into 2022, leaving untold economic and social damage.

One can only hope that South African politicians have been working behind the scenes and there is some masterplan in place to ensure this does not happen.


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DJ

-Before going to the daily numbers in the latest news section AI has good info on how to look at these numbers. People dying from Covid19 do not die from heart disease, COPD, cancer....other statistics as causes of death go down. Statistics=simplification. The first article on statistics ignored excess deaths-there are now more people dying then when there is no pandemic. 

Another remark could be made on long term problems after (mild) Covid 19 infection. Believed 1 or 2% of all cases have health issues longer then three weeks-some for months. 

I (DJ) think the chances for reinfection(s) are underestimated-there was very limited testing in spring-we still are missing most infections now. The "multi inflamatory syndrome"-Kawasaki in children may be something we may find more in the coming months.

I (DJ) the global economic impact would be even larger when we would not use NPI/lockdowns. Already health/hospital care is close to breaking point in many places. South Africa is seeing a second wave. The schoolyear just ended there-a lot of spread was in young people celebrating finishing schools. In my opinion South Africa is showing the idea of wide spread immunity in Africa-due to a mix of earlier infections (as Dr. J.C. likes to believe) is wrong. 

In most of Africa there is hardly any healthcare=hardly any testing="no pandemic"...

-The numbers for thursday dec-10 [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (since yesterday it looked like numbers had changed-or do I need coffee ?-I put down the basic numbers). 

Worldwide 70,700,291 cases of wich in the US 16,039,393 (about 23% )

deaths 1,587,608-the US has 299,692-almost 1 in 5

These numbers reflect tested and reported cases and may miss as good as 80/90% of the real numbers !!!!

Another remark; in Dutch news a sharp increase of anorexia may be related to this pandemic...mental health issues increase with the duration/worsening of this crisis. 

-Also from NL [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpRxhFbnGM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpRxhFbnGM how to deal with people refusing to wear masks ? Should you arrest them-use police violence against them ? The group getting arrested did spread leaflets in shops as a group and without masks. When the police arrived they were not in a shop, maybe even at enough distance from eachother (when not in the same household)-you do not have to wear a mask in the street (or even in a shop if that is OK for the shopowner-who then him/herself may get a fine..).

Being Dutch "we do not like rules"...communication/information work better then using police(violence). We have increasing cases/deaths here in NL-may move to much stricter rules/lock downs. Our government taking half steps-telling you should go into a shop alone-but keeping the shop open-is causing a problem. 

Why close libraries, museums but keep the IKEA, garden centers open (and busy) ? If you want people to accept-then follow the rules you have to have clear communications...

-Dr. John Campbell update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WndHeosSVGk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WndHeosSVGk 

 -DJ-Based on UK numbers and ignoring latest numbers (showing a rise) Dr.J.C. claims cases in general in Europe are decreasing...US and a bit slower Canada cases going up...

 -NBC-US media; an allergic reaction is "not a side effect" but a known risk. NBC making up a (stupid) story

-Fed EX-East US, UPS west US for pfizer vaccine distriubutions-40 million this year...

 -Oxford vaccine much easier in handling-FDA still needs to aprove it for the US (still AstraZeneca waiting for aproval-may still takes months...if there is no speed up)

 -Elvis (Presley) in 1956 in public went for a polio vaccination-even with some media claiming "side effects are deadly". He started public accepting vaccines...

 -If you did have Covid19 (recently) a vaccination may give an extra boost (doctors have to decide yet...)

 -Sweden doing much worse then other Scandinavian/Nordic countries (with Denmark at second place-Finland, Norway doing good).

 South Africa-increase of cases most in Kaap Provinsie/Cape Provence Kaapstad/Capetown area. Also increases in Zimbabwe, Kenya..

 -In Europe Slovakia, Germany, France see (slow) increases-often followed by lockdowns

-Peak Prosperity/Chris Martenson update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qySpzhQ2Wwk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qySpzhQ2Wwk  Basicly it is more on how some media do (mis)report on findings-PP/CM did face censorship on Ivermectin and HCQ...but when that is getting the story I (DJ) try to go for info on this pandemics...

-Sanofi/GSK vaccine NOT a successtory (yet) not starting enough production of antibodies in 50+ age group. 

Not so united States [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/u-s-civil-war-over-stolen-election-blue-states-have-all-the-money-red-states-have-all-the-food-fuel[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/u-s-civil-war-over-stolen-election-blue-states-have-all-the-money-red-states-have-all-the-food-fuel DJ-I accept HT is living "in his own reality". Chances for trump to stay in power via a supreme court deal are as good as zero...still I (and the world-lets be not that modest) would welcome a clear ending of US political chaos...

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[url]https://southfront.org/militant-activity-in-jammu-and-kashmir-increasing-amid-rumors-of-deployment-of-turkish-proxies/[/url] or https://southfront.org/militant-activity-in-jammu-and-kashmir-increasing-amid-rumors-of-deployment-of-turkish-proxies/ and 

[url]https://southfront.org/in-video-azerbaijani-soldier-accidentally-revealed-participation-of-pakistani-fighters-in-karabakh-conflict/[/url] or https://southfront.org/in-video-azerbaijani-soldier-accidentally-revealed-participation-of-pakistani-fighters-in-karabakh-conflict/ 

DJ-Pakistan and Turkey may be working together in using Syrian "moderate rebels" in other wars (Karabakh, Kashmir) another major crisis in the making. Turkey also using F16's in Libya may be going to far for Egypt (already in problems with Ethiopia over a Nile-dam...) 

Music-mama&papa's-dedicated to the one I love-the darkest hour is just before dawn....[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fs4MH5ocBs[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fs4MH5ocBs 

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Yes Josh, there seems to have been a massive data dump of back-dated cases yesterday.  Over 807.000 extra cases were added to the Worldometers database.  [there was no significant revision of deaths]  It looks some country changed the definition of "cases".

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Thanks EdwinSm, So it was not a lack of coffee...  (is that coffee...No, the best I could find...)

Any idea of wich country went for another defination of "cases"? Turkey has been in the news...did they correct their numbers-yes-they did...[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/turkey/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/turkey/ now far over 1 million cases...

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-Let me start with [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain#Etymology[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain#Etymology The "captain" has to be a leader providing a safe journey while he/she is in command....we have a lot of bad "captains"...

-The grim dec 11 numbers [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries in new tested/reported cases we crossed the 700.000 line, in deaths close to record-over 12.000 number. The trend is upward. While trump is in a hurry to kill people [url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55236260[/url] or https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55236260 (Five executions are scheduled before President-elect Joe Biden's 20 January inauguration - breaking with an 130-year-old precedent of pausing executions amid a presidential transition. ) the number of US cases remain extreme. Of the global new cases over 1/3 were in the US, of the total global deaths yesterday almost 1/4 were US deaths...with only 4% of the global population those numbers are shocking !

We now still have 20 days (in reporting) this year-will those two weeks see 14 or 15 million new cases worldwide ? 250.000 extra deaths ? Realism-the way people behave-during december-the real numbers could go even higher....

Brazil, Russia, India, Iran, parts of Europe is also doing bad pandemic-wise. 

-Israel [url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/no-restrictions-for-hanukkah-and-winter-festivals/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/no-restrictions-for-hanukkah-and-winter-festivals/ with a R0 of 1,32 what can go wrong....

-Dr.John Campbell again talking to Lindsay-pharmacist from Canada. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOkIkSGYCmw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOkIkSGYCmw =part 2(also on the Canada situation [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm07s-9Pmec[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm07s-9Pmec =part 1)

-Canada moving towards 10.000 cases per day (on a population of 37,8 million -DJ we in NL do far worse higher numbers on 17,5 million population) In northern Manitoba a "first nation" ("Indian") group of 1000 now see over 300 cases...limitations on oxygen, double the number of beds in ICU in some hospitals...

-With the winter just beginning the outlook is bad. Low vitamin D, people not accepting limitating rules, pandemic fatigue...(most likely happening in a lot of places).

-Vaccines coming-will start this month in Canada-in Alberta "politicians" try to use the pandemic for "their game"...

-Flu in Canada now hardly there-very low numbers...co-infection of Covid19 and Flu unwelcome (certainly if those virusses become "partners in spread")

-part 2

-Mouthwash-Lindsay had contact with Brazil-Sao Paulo University- the product was already in development before Covid19-as anti micronbes, regeneration of gums-they added another ingredient and now it is being tested as protection against (some forms of) Covid19. (Ulcers in the mouth another symptom for infection...) [url]https://actascientific.com/ASDS/pdf/ASDS-04-0991.pdf[/url] or https://actascientific.com/ASDS/pdf/ASDS-04-0991.pdf could decrease viral load, may slow down viral spread...Mouthwash also used in Japan (etc) as preventitive...when you gurgle you create aerosols...

-Since the mouth/upper respitory system is the starting point for the infection moutwash may stop the spread further into the body. On the other hand the virus may create some immune response...sort of balancing act...

-no harm-low risk- in using (sorts of) moutwash (some people may be alergic for iodine or other ingredients)-may offer some protection-in combination with other steps (masks, distancing etc...) 

-Alergic reactions during large vaccination campains may be expected (1 in one million)-often limited reactions (headaches etc)-should not be a major issue. Prior checking and good advice may prevent accidents. Asperins much higher risk.

-Allergies for the moment may be an indication for exclusion for some vaccines-still in research.a skintest for allergy may be usefull. (Lots of household products have additives that can give some allergic reactions. In vaccines you need some extra's to keep the vaccine together.)

-Stomach acid is anti viral/bacterial-so stomach acid reducers may decrease defense against Covid19-but people using those should ask medical advice if they want to change those medications (a diet, chocolate may be other ways to change stomach acid).  

Music Golden Earring-Back Home [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8tBX5AMJKk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8tBX5AMJKk (very) 1970





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-[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/12/grim-milestone-number-covid-deaths-surpasses-10000-netherlands[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/12/grim-milestone-number-covid-deaths-surpasses-10000-netherlands and [url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/12/almost-9200-coronavirus-infections-today-rolling-average-surged-57[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/12/almost-9200-coronavirus-infections-today-rolling-average-surged-57 NL had talks with Germany-we-for the first time this pandemic-may face a (more) "strict lockdown from coming wednesday dec. 15 till january (10 ?) [url]https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-german-state-imposes-tough-new-restrictions/a-55901078[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-german-state-imposes-tough-new-restrictions/a-55901078  In Germany federal states-not the central government-can decide on lockdowns etc. They also already have strict rules-but NL is seeing still a lot of people coming from Germany and Belgium to NL shops (that may be closed in Belgium or Germany). 

-[url]https://www.scholendicht.com/schoolstaking[/url] or https://www.scholendicht.com/schoolstaking (in Dutch) From monday parents may tell schools their children are ready for e-learning. Several schools themselves did close due to a lot of cases. Our government most likely wanted the schools to stay open...

DJ-Actions can be to little to late...there may be limited support for a lockdown just before christmas/new year. Our government communications on this pandemic is a disaster-divided still by "trying to save the economy" or "save lives" our government did a lot of damage to both-the economy and public health...vaccines do not change that. 

We may find out vaccinated people take more risks to soon-decreasing support for vaccinations. The damage to public mental health is increasing with each day...

-The numbers for december 12 [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries ; The US is now seeing an increase in cases close to the global increases in august. Weekend numbers will get corrected later on..The US has 1/3 of all new cases-Brazil also showing an increase in cases. Bad news is also the growth in countries like the UK with stricter rules...i expect nexr week some days above 750.000 cases, christmas week may see 800.000+ cases on some days-worldwide, tested and reported. 

According to these numbers now close to 1% of the global population tested positive. The real number of infected cases most likely will be closer to 10% (?) "Experts" claim the US may have had between 50 and 100 million infections-if you would translate that to the world you could end up with 2 billion people having been infected ??? Could that mean something for "herd immunity"? 

-Dr. John Campbell on Ivermectin [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWQtT7dHGE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWQtT7dHGE  (Peak Prosperty/Chris Martenson also did his-very positive-story on Ivermectin and almost got kicked of YouTube...)

 -Used since 1975 against parasites, anti viral. Has side effects, not to be used in combination with some other drugs and only with medical advice.

 -East Virginia Medical School protocol; Ivermectin works as prevention but is helpfull in ALL stages of infection as well "wonder drug".

-Dr.J.C. findings indicate global healthcare should take a look at this (older, relative safe, cheap) drug (DJ-with very limited profits...so not very interesting to big pharma mafia). 

-A study did see good results in South America, Egypt, India; Ivermectin works !

-In march-may  (!!!!!!) four south Florida hospitals used Ivermectin in 280 patients 173 did get Ivermectin, 107 did not. In those severe cases Ivermectin did see 38,8% mortality, not using Ivermectin had 80,7% mortality (=dead) with severe lung involvement. Overall 15% with Ivermectin died, 25% of those without Ivermectin died...

-Most of the patients also did get other medication (HCQ etc)

DJ-Is it not time to ask very serious questions on how "the medical world" works ? Is there a treshold stopping poor countries presenting succes with cheap medication ? Frontline doctors are working hard to save lives-not busy with "peer reviewed randomized-expensive-"scientific" studies ! Big pharma has been pushing first for not working remdesivir-making a lot of profit, now go for (much more invasive) vaccines...if I had a choice between using a tablet or mouthwash for some time-at low cost-or go for an expensive vaccine i may go for the tablets/moutwash (in combination with NPI for the time..) 

I believe China did get this pandemic under control in 50 days...maybe they cheated somewhat..but they seem to have it under control. They are not the only country-will people in Australia, New Zealand-but also Finland etc.-stand in line for a vaccination ? 

The longer this pandemic continues the more my impression grows big pharma is using it to make a dirty profit out of it...with the help of (some) politicians...

WAR

[url]http://thesaker.is/us-hits-search-and-destroy-against-the-new-silk-roads/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/us-hits-search-and-destroy-against-the-new-silk-roads/ and

[url]https://southfront.org/construction-on-nord-stream-2-resumes-as-it-races-against-further-u-s-sanctions/[/url] or https://southfront.org/construction-on-nord-stream-2-resumes-as-it-races-against-further-u-s-sanctions/ 

DJ-Europe has a choice-does it want normal relations with Russia, China, peace in the Middle East or does it want to go on supporting destructive behaviour of the US ? Let me be very clear ! The US should stop fighting Russia, China (etc Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Syria) and work with them or face a break in US-EU relations...US agression against Russia-Iran-China is inderect agression against the EU/Europe. If there is any self respect in "our leaders" it may be time to end NATO and ask US forces to leave Europe. 

Endless wars are destroying the US-spending way to much money on those wars. If that is the US (elite) choice so be it-we as US friends-should not help/join the US in self destruction and go for our own interests (that often may not be US interests). 

Music; [url]https://www.hrdza.sk/[/url] or https://www.hrdza.sk/ from Slovakia [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZALtzTmPz-E&feature=emb_rel_end[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZALtzTmPz-E&feature=emb_rel_end 

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-A good report on mental health and Covid19 [url]https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/eat.23353[/url] or https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/eat.23353 (this one is on eating disorders but in general mental health issues will increase in times of uncertainty-resulting in more auto-mutilation, depression and less care available...) (see also [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellant[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellant)

-[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries Low sunday numbers...of all reported cases over 1/3 in the US...Russia also showing high numbers...

DJ-Genocide by pandemic ? Criminal government inaction ? Both Dr.John Campbell and PhD Chris Martenson/Peak Prosperity now claim Ivermectin is helpfull in all stages of Covid19-from prevention to severe cases. Some of the studies go back to the first half of 2020...how can it be that profit goes before healthcare ? 

-Germany, NL, Flanders (Dutch speaking part of Belgium) see cases increasing (in NL 10% of public in public transport not using masks-even when it is mandatory-there is not enough staff to enforce it). Teachers, parents, students deciding school has to switch to e-learning (Government basicly being ignored..). [url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/14/nl-close-non-essential-stores-covid-press-conference-expected-tonight[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/14/nl-close-non-essential-stores-covid-press-conference-expected-tonight and [url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/13/nearly-10000-coronavirus-infections-pushes-week-total-almost-50[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/13/nearly-10000-coronavirus-infections-pushes-week-total-almost-50 DJ-Our government and "experts"simply seem to be unable to understand how a pandemic works...you need a long term-months/year-plan-not just closing some locations for a few weeks and expect miracles...When you look at new cases in South Korea, Japan this virus is stubborn-with maybe 90% of the spread under the radar. 

You have to go for widespread ad random testing, improve monitoring for re-infections. Maybe even look for spread via animals (cats, rats, bats-we have killed the last farm-mink in NL but ferrets may be also spreaders...you have to check on that !) [url]https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/24/russia-to-vaccinate-mink-against-coronavirus-amid-mutation-fears-a72131[/url] or https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/24/russia-to-vaccinate-mink-against-coronavirus-amid-mutation-fears-a72131 

Dr. John Campbell with another -weekend-update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noaTw8a_5gQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noaTw8a_5gQ  ;

-a list of countries most hard hit-per million [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_City[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_City ;The city's population consists of 160 nationalities. Foreigners represent 70% of the city's population, while Luxembourgers represent 30% of the population, and the number of foreign-born residents in the city rises steadily each year.[3]

-[url]https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/international/[/url] or https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/international/ good info from Canada

-UK two/three days before first symptoms to two/three days after first symptoms people spread most of the virus...ten day quarantaine should be enough (DJ-Problem with that is that if the US has had already between 50 and 100 million cases most of the spread came from people without much symptoms...). In the UK the R0 still much to close to 1 to feel comfortable-with winter on its way-even with already some forms of lockdowns...

-In the US Robert Redfield-in the coming 60-90 days Covid19 will kill over 3000 per day (in the US-"another 300.000 deaths" more or less unescapable...) FDA still has to approve Pfizer vaccine (?) (DJ-I understand vaccination will start today in the US, Canada at least some progress...)

-Russia-most likely a lot of underreporting. Alcohol and Sputnik-V vaccine do "not mix"? (A lot of alcohol consumption may weaken the immune response of the body-make the vaccine work less ? DJ-Would go for more/most vaccines ?)

-DJ-It may be correct "smaller states" like Croatia, Georgia (not the US one) see higher numbers per million-but some regions in larger countries most likely do far worse. If all the people in Luxemburg had Covid19-and nobody else-it would not be a major global issue. 

Music-The Hu (not the who !)-Yuve Yuve Yu [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xZUr0BEfE[url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xZUr0BEfE from Mongolia (?)

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DJ (See also latest news NL, UK new variation)

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/14/millions-more-enter-tier-3-in-england-amid-new-covid-strain-warning[/url] or https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/14/millions-more-enter-tier-3-in-england-amid-new-covid-strain-warning ;

In a surprise announcement, Hancock told the Commons that more than 1,000 cases of the new virus strain have been found in almost 60 areas, predominantly in southern England.

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He suggested the new strain was growing faster than already existing variants but stressed that clinical advice suggested it was “highly unlikely” the mutation would fail to respond to a vaccine.

Prof Chris Whitty, England’s chief medical officer, said there was no evidence the variant is more dangerous, and that it would be picked up by tests.

DJ-Here in NL we are now under a (more) strict lockdown. In the news nothing of the "new form" of UK Covid19-wich has been around for some weeks, in the south of the UK-including London and must have spread all over the globe by now. 

I do not feel more safe when the only "news" on this new form is "mutations happen all the time"-[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAgC9e6Nuo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAgC9e6Nuo Matt Hancock making a decleration is "the only news". Since there is no video of Dr. John Campbell I think he may be trying to get more info. But even the BBC website is "unclear". 

The UK, NL, Germany, Czech Republic, Italy (and Poland ? Flanders ?) now move towards stricter rules. Here in NL the story is our "Outbreak Management Team" did find 90.000 people at last friday dec 11 spreading the virus with a R0 of 1,24-wich means 180.000 people would be spreading the virus december 26....Hospital and ICU can not manage those numbers. It would mean stopping all non-Covid care (wich would harm thousends of others...)

Even childcare, primary schools being closed does not mean "experts" think children are spreading the virus-with children at home parents will be forced to work from home more...

Weak spots remain churches etc. and people (still) going on holiday-even with an "advice" not to do so. Germany will be in lockdown till january 10, here in NL the lock down is supposed to last till january 19-with january 12 a new press conference to see where we are by then...DJ-If the new UK form of Covid 19 is the main motor behind higher numbers being infected this lockdown will have limited effect...

-The statistics [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries as alaways on monday lower numbers. Sunday (dec 13) =low testing/reporting. Of the 528,500 cases close to 199.000 cases were from the US. The UK [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ does show an increase of cases but so do many other countries...

DJ-If I have to judge the story of a new UK form on the statistics I-so far-see not much drama. Let's hope the "new form" may not be such big news...

-AstraZeneca/Oxford worked with Russia on her vaccine [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/russian-cooperation-saves-british-vaccine.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/russian-cooperation-saves-british-vaccine.html (Maybe for some in the US reason not to work with the Oxford vaccine-"Russia=bad" insanity...)

-The US biden now the official winner of the elections. Some trump supporters may still disagree. [url]https://www.rt.com/op-ed/509437-tulsi-gabbard-kamala-harris/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/op-ed/509437-tulsi-gabbard-kamala-harris/ DJ-Tulsi Gabbard has seen war and wants to stop those crimes-as good as all other main US politicians seem to believe in "military answers" only damaging the US. 

WAR

-[url]https://www.debka.com/the-israel-iran-shadow-war-locks-in-on-southeastern-syria/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/the-israel-iran-shadow-war-locks-in-on-southeastern-syria/ DJ-The Israel/Netanyahu "war" with Iran will be fought near the Israeli border. Most likely Russia will-can tell-Iran to stay away from an area close to Israel. 

Weather

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/monster-snow-storm-to-smash-new-jersey-and-new-york-city-wednesday-into-thursday-12-to-17-inches[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/monster-snow-storm-to-smash-new-jersey-and-new-york-city-wednesday-into-thursday-12-to-17-inches 

Some music-The Supremes-1965-Stop ! In The Name of Love [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aax5EDQMOq4[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aax5EDQMOq4 

PS-Of course I will keep an eye on developments-may choose to update if there is more of a story-not just fragments...

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-A look at the numbers for dec.15 [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries high numbers but not record breaking. US almost 200,000 new cases extra. Total increase a little under 600,000 cases (so over 1 in 3 of the new cases is in the US). Over 12,000 new deaths...(and they all have names, a family...)

-Dr. John Campbell update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38i4_4o1DI[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38i4_4o1DI ;

-Cases going up in most country still dealing with the pandemic (DJ East Asia, Australia, New Zealand show you can get out-even without vaccines. Japan, South Korea show that "the virus" can be back very fast..) US had no decrease-UK/Europe had a decrease till recent. In UJ "tier-3" a strict lockdown with still (poorly ventilated) shops staying open, pubs closed-no travel between area's, no indoor visits allowed..Dr.J.C. no=travel is an advice-still a lot of travel going on...

-In the US trend is over 210.000 new cases per day. Afro-American and Hispanic communities hard hit, Asian community doing best. Dr.J.C./DJ Christmas-New Year period from dec.24 till january 2-can become a disaster both in Europe and the America's-a lot of mixing will send infectionrates-and with some delay hospitalisation/deaths up. (DJ-The duration of cases during this second wave-with also non-Covid care still going on-is exhausting medical staff. We may come to a point where there are beds/ICU capacity but no staff..)

-Vitamin D (during winter) extra important ! Vaccination getting started-forms showing vaccination may open doors..

-The [url]https://www.ema.europa.eu/en[/url] or https://www.ema.europa.eu/en has "decided to decide" on Pfizer/(german) BioNTech vaccine "a week earlier" dec 22. They get al the info from the UK, Canada, US...still have to take their own decission. In Germany 10.000 staff at 400 stations ready to start "as good as"now. (In NL vaccination may start mid-january...we have our own red tape..DJ).

-The only peer reviewed western vaccine-AstraZeneca (UK/Sweden) cheap-adeno-virus based is ready for use in the UK-may wait for the US (They may go for "pushing" the very expensive non-practical Pfizer, Moderna m-RNA vaccines..) DJ The Russia Sputnik-5 may not be safe for over 60 [url]https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/12/15/oliver-stone-receives-russian-coronavirus-vaccine-despite-age-concerns-a72355[/url] or https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/12/15/oliver-stone-receives-russian-coronavirus-vaccine-despite-age-concerns-a72355 In Brazil the fascist-US sponsored bolsenaro is pro Astra-Zeneca, the Sao Paulo governer is pro Chinese vaccines.

-UK mutations; H69/70 is deleted, gone-Mink-link ? N501 receptor binding domain change...(DJ these mutation may be discussed elsewere-I will look into it-may be major-or not that much..) Mutations found at monitoring genomes of infectious deseases in UK government agency. Changes/mutations seem to show up more where cases increase faster-in itself this can be alarming...(Dr.J.C. does not know enough of the genetics...Henry L Niman-Recombinomics was very good at that...long time ago..)

DJ-Since these mutations have been around for a few weeks before being picked up-and borders still open-these mutated virus must be widespread. Other countries did report some cases (not clear wich countries). Claim "only 25 mutations" in one year in my opinion may be a bit optimistic...(given being widespread in (millions of) mink, also getting all over the globe in over 70 million humans...)

Dr.J.C. selection pressure-Covid19 being cornered due to vaccines (or other virusses, NPI) may not be a real issue (DJ-but he basicly does not know...UK [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down is looking into it...very specialized.

-Dr.J.C. underlines-vaccines are NOT a cure !!!! They are prevention-may take time to be effective. Vaccination now can protect the person over 1 month (may be offering very limited protection earlier..) . There have been stories of people getting some vaccines then spreading virus...DJ-I do not have that full story yet-but will get in the news soon enough !

-New Zealand may open up borders with Australia mid april...(DJ In NL now travelwarning for ALL countries-so only travel if realy needed-quarantine on return.)

-Germany warning-pandemic getting out of control (just like NL).

-Mental health major issue. Suicide statistics not (yet) showing an increase in UK. In the UK men 16,3 suicides per 100.000, women 5,4-july-sept-UK reported cases..(In NL small shopowners are calling much more all kind of (mental) help lines-they see "their ship sinking" even with government help. Also young people getting into study/social problems...very major issue.)

DJ-The duration of this pandemic may also increase risks for family "events"-often the father/husband taking lives of loved ones before killing himself. Often hidden debts a major factor. 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNM7BhysCq0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNM7BhysCq0 Peak Prosperity/Chris Martenson-"War on Truth" in Brazil...[url]https://www.peakprosperity.com/war-on-truth/[/url] or https://www.peakprosperity.com/war-on-truth/ DJ-Ivermectin. HCQ most likely did save many lives-most in poor countries. Big Pharma is going for "big profit" on this pandemic...If I had a choice between Ivermectin or a vaccine I may feel more safe with Ivermectin...But I only have a limited say in that. 

If PP/CM main point is we can save hundreds of thousends of lives by switching (most) to Ivermectin I think he is correct. It may happen in poor countries where "Big Pharma" can not get much profit...Health Care has to be PUBLIC !!! NOT for profit !!!!

Greed made this pandemic into a pandemic. Politicians and "experts" for sale shows capitalism is "out of control" and getting very destructive (as in climate collapse)...

WAR

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/pentagon-orders-emergency-shutdown-of-sipr-defense-computer-network[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/pentagon-orders-emergency-shutdown-of-sipr-defense-computer-network 

Dutch Rock-Golden Earring-Bombay 1976 [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeRK97iUyME[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeRK97iUyME 

By the way-always wanted an aquarium ? [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVkK36KOcqs&t=1462s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVkK36KOcqs&t=1462s ! (Cats love it !)

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[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/901351-england-new-variant-of-covid19-coronavirus-may-be-causing-faster-spread-in-some-areas-december-14-2020#post901405[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/901351-england-new-variant-of-covid19-coronavirus-may-be-causing-faster-spread-in-some-areas-december-14-2020#post901405 a.o. (would also have to answer on risks for reinfections !);

That particular strain has shown “moderately decreased sensitivity” to the body’s neutralising antibodies, but there have been no indications it could impact the effectiveness of a vaccine, despite apparent genetic changes to the virus’ spike protein.

The UK’s new strain contains similar mutations to the spike receptor, which is the target of the majority of vaccines currently in development, but Dr Andrew Davidson, a reader in virology at the University of Bristol, does not believe this will present a significant issue.

[url]https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/making-vaccines/prevent-covid[/url] or https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/making-vaccines/prevent-covid  a.o.;

People will spread the virus after vaccination with the mRNA vaccines since they are not live vaccines that reproduce the whole virus in the body.

But, we do not yet know if the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines prevent infection or if they only prevent disease:

  • Disease means people experience symptoms of illness.
  • Infection means that a virus can infect a person’s cells and reproduce, but the person may or may not have symptoms or be contagious.

If the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines only prevent disease, a person could be infected following an exposure and potentially spread the virus. Additional studies will be completed to determine whether the vaccines prevent infection as well as disease.. However, given this uncertainty, vaccinated people will still need to use masks and practice social distancing measures for some time.

DJ-There are still lots of questions on vaccines, what "freedom" does vaccination give-and what risk ? 

-Another remark-One may expect 2021 to see more cases/deaths from Covid19 then 2020. Vaccinations only will have some effect later on in 2021. Risks of mutations becoming an increased risk are growing (-by getting more widespread, -by vaccination "pressure"). Health/hospitalcare is getting under severe pressure-if that "line of defense"breakes we may be in very major problems. International cooperation is very urgent. Russia seems to be willing to work with others..


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Some better news is coming out regarding preventing transmission  after vaccination...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1251237?__twitter_impression=true 

Moderna's vaccine is highly effective, FDA says, clearing way for second vaccine

FDA documents show the vaccine is not only extremely effective, but it may also reduce the spread of the virus.

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DJ: Again a thank you for continuing this.  I'm not reading here very often (anxiety management), but always read through everything you've written when I do.  

I watched PP's video (that youtube later deleted!) about Ivermectin. I really wish more studies were being done. He made a persuasive case, but the chance of a doctor prescribing it in the US right now is extremely low.

The other thing that caught my attention was a Dr testifying in the Senate (not the anti-vaxxer) about how appalling it is that there is no EARLY treatment, after diagnosis. The doctor following him talked about a multi vitamin, zinc, vitamin D and Quercetin being recommended, but then went on to talk about hydroxychloroquine. Starts about 1:05 here https://www.c-span.org/video/?478159-1/senate-hearing-covid-19-outpatient-treatment

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-Thanks ksc for the Moderna update-I (DJ) think we have to do everything we can to get this virus/pandemic under control soon ! It most likely will get much worse if the spread can go on in such high numbers...

-KiminNM-I am doing this scenario's thing as "anxiety management". Trying to get good info gives me the feeling I am at least doing something. Eventhough I do not have any science background I think it may still be an advantage to be open minded-learn by following developments this long. 

Thank you for the link-it has also a transcription of what is discussed. It is depressing to see early intervention medication for Covid19-using what is available, proven to be safe-was not "worth"  a study...

One can become very cynical on "how the world works". I do get hope from PP/CM and Dr. John Campbell-people who show they care..even as both fight the old foes-indifference and incompetence in their own way. 

[url]https://innovationorigins.com/genes-as-a-key-to-new-covid-19-treatments/[/url] or https://innovationorigins.com/genes-as-a-key-to-new-covid-19-treatments/ ;

As part of their study, GenOMICC consortium researchers examined the DNA of 2,700 patients suffering from severe cases of COVID-19 who had been treated in 208 intensive care units across the UK. They compared the genetic information with samples from healthy volunteers from other studies, such as UK BiobankGeneration Scotland, and the 100,000 Genomes Project. And they found significant differences in five genes of intensive care patients compared to samples from healthy volunteers: “The genes – IFNAR2, TYK2, OAS1, DPP9, and CCR2 – partly explain why some people become critically ill with Covid-19 while others develop hardly any symptoms,” the researchers say. The mutated genes IFNAR2 and OAS1 are linked to the innate immune system, the genes TYK2, DPP9, and CCR2 to severe inflammatory processes.

The researchers were able to predict the effect of medications on patients on the basis of these findings. For example, it was shown that a reduction in the activity of the TYK2 gene provides protection against COVID-19 or a potentially life-threatening disruption of the immune system that might be triggered by it. There is also good news where this is concerned. A drug already approved for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis, baricitinib, significantly reduces this TYK2 activity.

DJ-This pandemic-maybe the worst global crisis since World War Two-has so many aspects, will change so many things, speed up global processes is also a "birth proces"-a very painfull one-to a new world. We will not return to what was...that door is closed. 

[url]http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2020/12/temperatures-keep-rising.html[/url] or http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2020/12/temperatures-keep-rising.html  can be seen as depressing-in many ways one would lose all hope-blind short term greed destroying everything. History is a pendulum...times are changing-because they always do...let it be.

-For NL [url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/16/negative-travel-advice-aruba-bonaire-sint-maarten-entire-world-now-code-orange[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/16/negative-travel-advice-aruba-bonaire-sint-maarten-entire-world-now-code-orange if you believed you needed to go to jump around the planet-you even had a "right" to do so-the limits are there. Amsterdam International Airport is getting overcrowded every day-our "liberal conservative government"keeps failing with insane "advices" (still no mandatory quarantine for people from high risk countries). "Non-essential shops" during the lock down were supposed to be closed-with no clear definition of "essential" in some cities 50% of the shops today were open...Belgium may close its border to keep "the Dutch" out-since their shops are open since december 1.

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/16/11000-positive-covid-tests-reported-nl-today[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/16/11000-positive-covid-tests-reported-nl-today the last three days our healthcare had computer problems-so delayed reporting now resulting in over-reporting-again...with all these things going wrong we [url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/16/netherlands-economy-4th-best-positions-recover-covid-crisis-wef[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/12/16/netherlands-economy-4th-best-positions-recover-covid-crisis-wef

-[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/901351-england-new-variant-of-covid19-coronavirus-may-be-causing-faster-spread-in-some-areas-december-14-2020-wales-scotland#post901405[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/901351-england-new-variant-of-covid19-coronavirus-may-be-causing-faster-spread-in-some-areas-december-14-2020-wales-scotland#post901405 keeps updating on the "more new UK variation": 

The new mutated form of coronavirus has now spread to Wales and Scotland.
Experts analysing the genetic code of the variant say it is believed to have originated in South East England and was not imported from abroad.

Scientists contributing to the Government surveillance programme warn the VUI – 202012/01 variant appears to be spreading faster than other forms.

... The network of experts said VUI – 202012/01 has caused concern because it is appearing most in areas of the country where infection rates are rising quickest.

They were also concerned because it displays 17 changes to the original virus - many more than previous variants detected by their surveillance.

... The Mirror reported today how one in ten Londoners who caught the novel coronavirus last month were infected with the new strain, according to an expert.

Dr Andrew Page, who is at the forefront of research work into Covid-19, has said the virus's new strain "came out of nowhere".

In the month since detection in October the mutated virus, which has been named VUI – 202012/01, has infected 19.2% of all new Covid-19 patients in Norfolk.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...covid-23172171

DJ-With 17 changes the "new" UK Covid 19 is becoming an increased risk. If there are many changes in the "receptor binding domain" it will effect vaccines and increase risks for reinfection. [url]https://www.scotsman.com/health/are-there-mink-farms-uk-risks-explained-denmark-cull-17-million-animals-after-mutated-form-covid-discovered-3028122[/url] or https://www.scotsman.com/health/are-there-mink-farms-uk-risks-explained-denmark-cull-17-million-animals-after-mutated-form-covid-discovered-3028122 ;

Mink fur farms no longer exist in the UK (the industry was banned in 2000), yet mink remain one of the most controversial 'invasive' species in the UK, and numbers are thought to be on the rise.

Their thriving population is a cause of concern for environmental and conservation groups, but not because of the risk of coronavirus.

DJ-I would not be surprised that the new UK mutated form has somehow an animal link...[url]https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/24/russia-to-vaccinate-mink-against-coronavirus-amid-mutation-fears-a72131[/url] or https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/24/russia-to-vaccinate-mink-against-coronavirus-amid-mutation-fears-a72131 preparing vaccinations for animals may be wise...

-Dr.John Campbell with another update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_0FB7XiqA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_0FB7XiqA (I deal with it tomorrow morning..info under the video)

-[url]https://www.thelocal.dk/20201216/new-denmark-announces-national-lockdown-from-christmas-day[/url] or https://www.thelocal.dk/20201216/new-denmark-announces-national-lockdown-from-christmas-day another European country going in lockdown...; (mink related-the DK government claimed there were no new cases of people with cluster-5 mink mutations...)

Denmark uses a scale level of 1-5 to appraise the seriousness of the current Covid-19 situation in each of its five administrative healthcare regions. Each of those five reasons is now at level four.

The highest level, level five, reflects uncontrolled infection spread and a risk that hospital capacity will be exceeded.

Health minister Magnus Heunicke said at the briefing that 1,808 health sector personnel had contracted the coronavirus during the last week. That is an increase of 70 percent, according to Heunicke.

Music-Lovers of the World, Unite-David & Jonathan (lyrics) [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6T5kygrWio[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6T5kygrWio 1966


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-The december 16 numbers...[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries are breaking records again...global almost 715.000 cases, 13,446 deaths. The US reporting 246,996 new cases, 3486 deaths. (There may have been delays in reporting-giving some incorrect trends-but the major trend was an increase of cases-basicly worldwide.)

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ For the US the number of cases is not a new record, the number of deaths is. California did see 61,569 new cases in just one day-407 deaths. The US states of California, Texas and Florida-a large population-report over 1 million cases...Illinois and New York may reach the 1 million cases within a few weeks. 

Brazil [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/brazil/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/brazil/ did report 68,437 new cases-not a record (july 29 did see 70,869 cases) but a record for the second wave (allthough it may be related to reporting issues-there is an upward trend in Brazil). The reported number of Brazilian deaths is <1000-in the first "wave" the peak was around 1500 deaths per day. 

In the global worldometer-list Turkey #3, Germany #4 in reporting new cases. The America's have over 32 million cases, just over 805,000 deaths. EurAsia come to 39,8 million cases, just over 790.000 deaths. 

DJ-[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/901351-england-new-variant-of-covid19-coronavirus-may-be-causing-faster-spread-in-some-areas-december-14-2020-wales-scotland#post901405[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/europe-aj/europe-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/901351-england-new-variant-of-covid19-coronavirus-may-be-causing-faster-spread-in-some-areas-december-14-2020-wales-scotland#post901405 (being updated) The new UK Covid-20 form (let start calling it that) is seeing faster spread, also in children, most likely an increase in septic shock. Two major further bad points-spread has been going on for at least some weeks-must have gotten the time to spread outside the UK....

DJ-This pandemic is worsening. NPI-even not widely accepted-may be our only line of defense. Hospitalcare is at breaking point-if the UK "Covid20"is as bad as indications look like "a lot of infected will not die in the hospital"...

-Now for "better news" (it can hardly be worse) Dr.John Campbell update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_0FB7XiqA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_0FB7XiqA ;

-Dr.J.C. (using [url]https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus[/url] or https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus or [url]https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/international/[/url] or https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/international/-DJ-Also very good) main reason why Latin American countries report limited cases is they are not testing...

-UK Christmas is supposed to see "a bit more room for social gatherings" -the "good news" is more and more people see it as a very bad idea. (DJ-Christmas and New Year will be superspreader-events around the globe. If the UK new form is as bad as it looks like it can cause a bloodbath. Still (some) people go on holiday-governments did not stop international air travel-DJ they should do that NOW !!!!!-so the new UK "Covid20"will be around the globe within a few weeks..)

1-in-5 rule=One day of relaxing rules may need 5 days of strict rules to undo the damage...

-Spain-10% of population may have had Covid19 this year-about 4,8 million. About 1,8 million cases were reported (the real number was about 2,6 times the reported number). Given the reported/tested Covid19 deaths of just over 48.000 Dr.J.C. comes to an "Infection Fatality Rate of 1%" (DJ The number of excess deaths is higher-a lot of them may be Covid19 related..). Also his conclusion-would the other 90% of Spain get Covid19 the number of deaths would stay below the 0,5 million "because the most vulnarable have already died" shows unrealistic optimism. Madrid and Barcelona did see most cases-maybe 20% of those-younger-population did get Covid 19. In more rural Spain the population is older, healthcare facilities are less available...also if a lot of cases show up at the same time health care would collapse. (Resulting in much more deaths even...but Dr.J.C. loves optimism-"vaccines will bring change in combination with the summer" "recent UK developments" indicate that idea is getting less and less realistic...) 

-The (Cambridge-Ma-USA) Moderna vaccine-35$ per vaccine did see FDA approval. Soon vaccines will be spread around  "the rich countries". -The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is accepted already in a lot of countries (and yes-in a very limited number of cases people may not react alergic). Russian and Chinese vaccins are being exported/used around the globe. Moderna-vaccine can be stored in a fridge -20C and may help vaccinated people in not spreading the virus if they get infected. (DJ-In combination with very strict NPI vaccinations may buy us at least some extra time..) Dr.J.C. poor countries need vaccines as well, DJ-Russia, China will fill in that gap-at a cost. (Dr.J.C. is not following Russia/China vaccines while the may already be more used then western ones...)

- Pfizer-BioNTech peer review study; DJ In short-the messenger RNA goes into the cell (NOT into the DNA !!!) and puts the cells to create a "defense proteïne"on the outside of those cells as a defense recognizing a Covid19 virus. It is all very "nano=small"..the technique is new, Pfizer and Moderna both use mRNA-it is a scientific breakthrough at "warp speed" US-tax funded. 

Vaccine tested on cross-section of society, including BMU 30+, older people, all colors-good results. Side effects after vaccination (maybe a bit stronger then after a flu-shot) headache, fatigue-in younger age group 38C mild fever...DJ If used in care workers it would be wise to spread vaccinations...

Weak points is storage/transport at -70C and it is expensive 25$...Still it is being used already in several countries (UK, US)

-Dr.J.C. has made a few books available as downloads-also now for mobile phones. (He is very happy that he did find out how to get the pdf on his phone...). Much used in "poor" countries. If people can donate it is welcome....

-CHINA

[url]https://www.cgtn.com/special/Global-COVID-19-cases-top-19-7-million-U-S-cases-exceed-5-million.html[/url] or https://www.cgtn.com/special/Global-COVID-19-cases-top-19-7-million-U-S-cases-exceed-5-million.html DJ-China is reporting on global Covid19 from their perspective-they did get it under control. May be able to help if countries are accepting help. China has a lot of experience in mobile hospitals, staff to "crowd pandemic control" (a.o. via "smart camera's"). We may soon see some of those ideas in western countries...

-US

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/declaration-of-foreign-interference-in-us-election[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/declaration-of-foreign-interference-in-us-election DJ - h.clinton made up the insane idea in 2016 "Russia was able to steal the US elections". Does d.trump now come with "China did steal the election"? If US elections are that easy to steal is that not a US problem ? If western countries do not like the outcome of elections/referendums (Brexit) why blame Russia-Iran-China ? Maybe the US should blame-and invade-Greenland ? Liberate oil and gas from landice ? The US needs to reform her political system it is getting destructive ! (see also [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/media-blame-russia-for-cyber-intrusions-without-providing-evidence.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/media-blame-russia-for-cyber-intrusions-without-providing-evidence.html[/url] )

Music-The Toys-A Lovers Concerto [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmJ1AqtTuyo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmJ1AqtTuyo 1965 [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Lover%27s_Concerto[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Lover%27s_Concerto music from J.S.Bach (?) you can mix it with [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s_hIs8s_N4[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s_hIs8s_N4 time-travel...


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