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   DJ, a pandemic is NEVER an isolated event-one has to place it against its background. 
-BRICS+ is an ongoing process ending western domination (after 500 years of western exploitation/terror). In some ways it almost could "feel" as an "invasion from space" for those not paying attention. Western media/politics try to downplay/ignore the major steps...(see also latest news NATO-BRICS+ conflict). 
Oil is a major necessity for pharma/medical industry. BRICS+ soon will be the dominant medical producer. Dealing with another wave of CoViD, H5N1 etc. will no longer be under western control. 
In the (former) U.S. biden may try to push for more war...however the US may simply have no finance for that...A nuclear war would also end the US...Sadly this may NOT stop growing risks for nuclear insanity...
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[url]https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/temperature.html[/url] or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/temperature.html ;
As the image below also shows, rises of some 100 ppm in the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and of some 300 ppb in the level of methane in the atmosphere go hand in hand with a rise in temperature of some 10°C. In other words, it looks like high levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere have already locked in an upcoming temperature rise of 10°C, i.e. a further rise of 10°C is already baked into the cake (ed.: see also the Global warming in the pipeline, by James Hansen et al., 2022).

Indeed, temperatures look set to go well beyond any of the peaks in the Milankovitch cycles over the past 400,000 years. If average temperatures were to rise from 1750 to 2026 by 8.1°C (details below), they would reach a level virtually unprecedented in the entire history of Earth.
DJ the article lookst at a baseline of the year 1750, temperature 13,42C/56,16F
In 2026, it could be 23.10°C (73.62°F) if temperatures were to rise by a further 8.10°C (i.e. from 2016 to 2026). A monthly peak could take the temperature up even higher, to 23.44°C (or, more than 10°C above 1750). In case the clouds tipping point got crossed, the temperature could rise by an additional 8°C, as discussed at the clouds feedback page. 
DJ...all that may be left is damage control...
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SARS-CoV-2: VOC first detections Wildtype - December 2019 Epsilon - September 2020 Alpha - September 2020 Delta - October 2020 Gamma - December 2020 ETA: December 2020 Omicron - November 2021 Anyone else seeing a pattern here?
DJ...so will BA.2.86 (with lots of subvariants)  become the new CoViD driver ? I will start a new item on BA.2.86 now detected worldwide...even with very limited testing...
[url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/08/eurosurveillance-asymptomatic-infection.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/08/eurosurveillance-asymptomatic-infection.html ;
In early July the Italian website https://sivemp.it/ (Sindacato Italiano Veterinari Medicina Pubblica) carried a brief news story (link), which described the virus (isolated from the poultry) as HPAI H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b of a genotype (BB) recently found in northern Italian gulls, and that it carried a rarely found mammalian adaption (T271A in the PB2 protein) that may increase its zoonotic potential.

The puzzle being that this mutation - which has been found in a small percentage of mammals infected with the H5 clade 2.3.4.4b virus - has not been previously seen in infected avian species in Europe.  This raises the possibility of transmission from mammals back to poultry. 

Today the Journal Eurosurveillance has a follow up report, which includes a second round of serological testing of both humans and dogs.  While no humans tested positive, the antibody titres in the dogs continued to show strong signs of past infection. 
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It was surprising to observe that the virus characterised in this study, detected in hens, differed from all other HPAI A(H5N1) clade 2.3.4.4b viruses circulating in poultry and in birds by a mutation in the PB2 protein, T271A, which is a marker of virus adaptation to mammalian species; it has previously been shown to be associated with increased polymerase activity in mammalian cells [2,10] and is present in the 2009 pandemic A(H1N1) virus [2]. It should be noted that this mutation has never been observed in H5Nx viruses of clade 2.3.4.4b collected from birds in Europe since 2020. In contrast, it has been detected in ca 7% of clade 2.3.4.4b viruses identified in mammals in Europe, including the virus responsible for the outbreak on a mink farm in Spain [15]. This molecular finding suggests that virus spread from mammals to birds cannot be excluded.
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As we've discussed previously, there are now dozens of genotypes of HPAI H5 clade 2.3.4.4b viruses circulating around the world, and many genetic variations may exist within each genotype. 
It is not totally unexpected that dogs and cats infected with one genotype might experience severe illness or death, while those infected with another might remain asymptomatic. 
And that's the rub.  We aren't dealing with a single, monolithic, HPAI H5N1 virus. We are dealing with literally scores of similar avian viruses, on multiple continents, all pursuing their own evolutionary path.
Those viruses that remain in wild birds or poultry are expected to evolve differently than those that spill over into marine mammals, mink, or peridomestic animals. 
The fact that some mammals - particularly companion animals - may be able to carry (and potentially spread) the virus without showing overt signs of illness, means that investigators will have to rely on more than cursory inspections when it comes to ruling out mammalian infections. 
DJ...so H5N1 spreading from birds into mammals-companion pets....cats, dogs !!!!-and back into birds....Lots of different types of H5N1....All alarm-bells should be ringing !!!!

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	DJ, a pandemic is NEVER an isolated event-one has to place it against its background. -BRICS+ is an ongoing process ending western domination (after 500 years of western exploitation/terror). In some ways it almost could "feel" as an "invasion from space" for those not paying attention. Western media/politics try to downplay/ignore the major steps...(see also latest news NATO-BRICS+ conflict). Oil is a major necessity for pharma/medical industry. BRICS+ soon will be the dominant medical producer. Dealing with another wave of CoViD, H5N1 etc. will no longer be under western control. In the (former) U.S. biden may try to push for more war...however the US may simply have no finance for that...A nuclear war would also end the US...Sadly this may NOT stop growing risks for nuclear insanity... ---------- [url]https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/temperature.html[/url] or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/temperature.html ; As the image below also shows, rises of some 100 ppm in the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and of some 300 ppb in the level of methane in the atmosphere go hand in hand with a rise in temperature of some 10°C. In other words, it looks like high levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere have already locked in an upcoming temperature rise of 10°C, i.e. a further rise of 10°C is already baked into the cake (ed.: see also the Global warming in the pipeline, by James Hansen et al., 2022). Indeed, temperatures look set to go well beyond any of the peaks in the Milankovitch cycles over the past 400,000 years. If average temperatures were to rise from 1750 to 2026 by 8.1°C (details below), they would reach a level virtually unprecedented in the entire history of Earth. DJ the article lookst at a baseline of the year 1750, temperature 13,42C/56,16F In 2026, it could be 23.10°C (73.62°F) if temperatures were to rise by a further 8.10°C (i.e. from 2016 to 2026). A monthly peak could take the temperature up even higher, to 23.44°C (or, more than 10°C above 1750). In case the clouds tipping point got crossed, the temperature could rise by an additional 8°C, as discussed at the clouds feedback page. DJ...all that may be left is damage control... ------------- CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 9h SARS-CoV-2: VOC first detections Wildtype - December 2019 Epsilon - September 2020 Alpha - September 2020 Delta - October 2020 Gamma - December 2020 ETA: December 2020 Omicron - November 2021 Anyone else seeing a pattern here? DJ...so will BA.2.86 (with lots of subvariants) become the new CoViD driver ? I will start a new item on BA.2.86 now detected worldwide...even with very limited testing... [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/08/eurosurveillance-asymptomatic-infection.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/08/eurosurveillance-asymptomatic-infection.html ; In early July the Italian website https://sivemp.it/ (Sindacato Italiano Veterinari Medicina Pubblica) carried a brief news story (link), which described the virus (isolated from the poultry) as HPAI H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b of a genotype (BB) recently found in northern Italian gulls, and that it carried a rarely found mammalian adaption (T271A in the PB2 protein) that may increase its zoonotic potential. The puzzle being that this mutation - which has been found in a small percentage of mammals infected with the H5 clade 2.3.4.4b virus - has not been previously seen in infected avian species in Europe. This raises the possibility of transmission from mammals back to poultry. Today the Journal Eurosurveillance has a follow up report, which includes a second round of serological testing of both humans and dogs. While no humans tested positive, the antibody titres in the dogs continued to show strong signs of past infection. - It was surprising to observe that the virus characterised in this study, detected in hens, differed from all other HPAI A(H5N1) clade 2.3.4.4b viruses circulating in poultry and in birds by a mutation in the PB2 protein, T271A, which is a marker of virus adaptation to mammalian species; it has previously been shown to be associated with increased polymerase activity in mammalian cells [2,10] and is present in the 2009 pandemic A(H1N1) virus [2]. It should be noted that this mutation has never been observed in H5Nx viruses of clade 2.3.4.4b collected from birds in Europe since 2020. In contrast, it has been detected in ca 7% of clade 2.3.4.4b viruses identified in mammals in Europe, including the virus responsible for the outbreak on a mink farm in Spain [15]. This molecular finding suggests that virus spread from mammals to birds cannot be excluded. - As we've discussed previously, there are now dozens of genotypes of HPAI H5 clade 2.3.4.4b viruses circulating around the world, and many genetic variations may exist within each genotype. It is not totally unexpected that dogs and cats infected with one genotype might experience severe illness or death, while those infected with another might remain asymptomatic. And that's the rub. We aren't dealing with a single, monolithic, HPAI H5N1 virus. We are dealing with literally scores of similar avian viruses, on multiple continents, all pursuing their own evolutionary path. Those viruses that remain in wild birds or poultry are expected to evolve differently than those that spill over into marine mammals, mink, or peridomestic animals. The fact that some mammals - particularly companion animals - may be able to carry (and potentially spread) the virus without showing overt signs of illness, means that investigators will have to rely on more than cursory inspections when it comes to ruling out mammalian infections. DJ...so H5N1 spreading from birds into mammals-companion pets....cats, dogs !!!!-and back into birds....Lots of different types of H5N1....All alarm-bells should be ringing !!!!
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 02 2023 at 4:33am
	[url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/cdc-nowcast-ba286-update.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/cdc-nowcast-ba286-update.html ; While the Internet appears to be transfixed by rampant speculation over the future impact of BA.2.86, it still doesn't show up - even as a blip - on the CDC's bi-weekly Nowcast. Instead, based on limited surveillance and testing (only 4 of 10 regions submitted enough data for regional analysis), EG.5 (21.5%) and FL.1.5.1 (14.5%) lead a very deep stack of roughly 30 variants currently being tracked by the CDC. While currently in 6th place, HV.1 has shown impressive growth, doubling (from 2.5% to 5.1%) over the past 2 weeks, while most of the other variants on the list have lost ground. Despite the hype over BA.2.86, it is EG.5, FL.1.5.1, and a short list of other XBB variants that are probably responsible for the recent increase in cases. DJ-CDC update on BA.2.86; Based on current information, existing tests used to detect and medications used to treat COVID-19 continue to be effective with this variant. Scientists are evaluating how previous immunity from vaccinations or past infections protect against this new variant. Tests of how well antibodies block the virus from infecting cells give us one measure of how well one part of the immune system might handle BA.2.86. Along with antibodies, other parts of the immune system have important roles in protecting people from the most severe outcomes of COVID-19. These other parts of the immune system have been less affected by viral evolution and are not predicted to have decreased activity against BA.2.86. CDC’s current assessment is that the updated COVID-19 vaccine, which will be available in mid-September, will likely be effective at reducing severe disease and hospitalization. Immune responses generated from prior infection also help protect against severe outcomes of COVID-19. There is currently no evidence that this variant is causing more severe illness. That assessment may change as additional scientific data are developed. CDC remains committed to releasing updates on trends and observations of this variant. UK [url]https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-of-concern-variant-risk-assessments/situational-assessment-for-sars-cov-2-variant-v-23aug-01-ba286[/url] or https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-of-concern-variant-risk-assessments/situational-assessment-for-sars-cov-2-variant-v-23aug-01-ba286 ; Meeting and assessment 29 August 2023. The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) is aware of new data since this date and continues to assess all available information. Through the limited available global genomic surveillance, the variant is present in multiple countries on multiple continents, detected at a low prevalence amongst clinical cases or in wastewater. Although an increasing number of countries are reporting detection, there is as yet no clear signal of growth within any of these individual countries. The BA.2.86 phylogeny shows one sublineage within which most European cases are located but does not otherwise have a high degree of substructure. The time of most recent common ancestor (tMRCA) is estimated at 3 June (range 29 April, 1 July) assuming exponential growth. BA.2.86 is an outlier in terms of geographic dispersion when compared to other nodes in the SARS-CoV-2 global phylogeny in 2023 with similar tMRCA and which are still circulating. However, it is not the most extreme outlier. This analysis does not incorporate countries detecting BA.2.86 through wastewater. The group considered hypotheses of a mass gathering event seeding multiple countries, an ongoing outbreak in a country without surveillance, or widespread community transmission undetected by surveillance. All 3 possibilities were still considered plausible, though widespread high-level community transmission is not best supported by the phylogeny. No conclusions can be drawn about the fitness of the variant based on this data, and a full range of options – from less fit than other circulating variants, to a large jump in fitness – are still possible, given the available data. There is no laboratory data available. Two samples are in culture in the UK and we are also in contact with international partners. Neutralisation and other phenotypic data is still likely to be one to 2 weeks away at minimum in the UK. The extant UKHSA variant of concern definition requires us to demonstrate (or confidently predict) a detrimental change in biological properties, as well as a growth rate compatible with displacement or maintenance. At present there are a wide range of possibilities for the fitness and growth of the variant and there remains uncertainty about the impact of the mutations present. BA.2.86 does not, therefore, meet this definition of a variant of concern. The Variant Technical Group discussed whether the current surveillance context required an updated approach to designating and acting on variants. However, any such updated definition of a variant of concern would include a higher level of confidence on positive growth than is available at present for BA.2.86. DJ; CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 13h U.S: Covid in wastewater at highest level since February 2023 https://biobot.io/data/ - Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · 2h Replying to @gwladwr Up and up and up… …a bit like what we’re seeing with the Scottish wastewater surveillance figures (which are currently at their highest point in over a year!). Shame we don’t have wastewater surveillance for the rest of the U.K. anymore. - Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · Aug 31 THREAD: England Covid update TLDR: modest August wave with flatlining hospital admissions, but expect a bigger wave later this autumn 1/12 - Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · Aug 31 However, Zoe symptom tracker app estimating significant increases recently. Very hard to know how reliable Zoe trends are, given far fewer people reporting, but it's worth bearing in mind. So what could happen next? 3/12 - Prof. Christina Pagel @chrischirp · Aug 31 BA.2.86 ("Pirola") is an Omicron variant, but as different to current Omicron strains as Omicron was to Delta - this means it might well evade existing immunity a LOT better and is why it's being closely watched around the world 5/12 We're not in same situation as Omicron, as in Dec 2021 most people hadn't had Covid yet and were on 2 vax doses. That is not the case now - most people on 3 doses & at least one infection. That gives us broader immunity. However....... Many of us 18 months out from last jab & a while out from last infection so I suspect there could be a lot of infections, but hopefully more limited severe disease and more limited new Long Covid. A big or biggish new wave in autumn/winter never a good thing though. 9/12 DJ, ventilation, masks, limiting contacts does limit risks. Federico Gueli @siamosolocani · 12h What i am seeing thx to the huge tracking workload by NKrMnZr with FLip and EG.5.1 family is unprecedented. We count more 60 independent emergence of this combo on EG.5.1 backbone. Lets say 80% of them are artifact, to say: still something unprecedented. And mainly from China - Josette Schoenmakers @JosetteSchoenma · 5h I totally agree! I just noticed yesterday how many different Flip branches there are under EG.5.1 and how well they are all tracked by NKrMnZr on GitHub , after 2 of such samples from the Netherlands showed up. DJ...BA.2.86 may be getting a lot of attention-lots of other variants (also) could be of risk. A "bad" recombination could result in a much higher risk of CoViD. Such a recombination/mutation can show up in non-human hosts....Another risk could be in time between infection and first symptoms getting wider...What looks mild may result in much higher long term illness... The total lack of testing-sequencing-reporting is making this -potential- major crisis an even larger risk.
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 03 2023 at 1:21am
	DJ, Again-I am NOT any kind of expert-just try to get an opinion based on info... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-surge-in-okinawa-again-is-a-reflection-of-what-is-in-store-for-the-rest-of-the-world-non-stop-infections-and-reinfections-till-you-eventually[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-surge-in-okinawa-again-is-a-reflection-of-what-is-in-store-for-the-rest-of-the-world-non-stop-infections-and-reinfections-till-you-eventually die....This story claims CoViD developing into a "slow killer" with at the start no/mild symptoms but the virus taking its time to spread and stay in its hosts...See also; CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 11h Japan, Okinawa: Covid cases rise for the second consecutive week. As of the 27th August, there were 144 hospitalized patients (5 in critical condition). There were 110 inpatients in the 597 beds reserved for coronavirus at key medical institutions. https://ryukyushimpo.jp/news/entry-177 - 6874.html CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 13h Spain: Experts 'baffled' by surge in Covid cases. Sales of antigen tests have skyrocketed during the week of August 21 to 27th. https://mundodeportivo.com/actualidad/202 - CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 10h Spain: Collapse in the outpatient clinics of Barbanza, Galicia, due to the confluence of diseases. Medics attending to 70 patients a day. 30902/1002062278/expertos-sorprendidos-subidon-casos-covid-comunidad-mas-afectada-dct.html and [url]https://health-study.joinzoe.com/data[/url] or https://health-study.joinzoe.com/data may indicate immunity after vaccination and/or infection is running out. CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 15h UK: Largest Covid wave since March 2023? CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 13h New Jersey: One in four care homes reported a Covid outbreak in the last week. 158 nursing homes have outbreaks, with 1,861 cases and 15 deaths among residents and staff. In my view CoViD is much worse than both the flu or a cold...Flu-types result in immunity after infection. The reason why the Spanish Flu timeline may run from 1917 to 1923 is in the time it did take to spread from Europe/US to the rest of the world...(India and Java may have seen over 1 million flu-deaths each...but there was no good civil administration in the colonies). [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ still lower than pandemic years for excess deaths. Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · 11h Apparently asking this question of the principal data scientist at @UKHSA (who criticised me for quoting “irrelevant” wastewater data which has just been published) is enough to get me blocked. It’s a real shame because I’d genuinely LOVE to know what other data we can use. It looks like lots of "leaders" still want to go for "pandemic=over" bla-bla...just like they claim the climate collapse is under control or NATO is winning its neo-colonial war against BRICS... [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/uk-hsa-situational-assessment-for-sars.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/uk-hsa-situational-assessment-for-sars.html ; Now that 90% of the world's nations are no longer reporting COVID hospitalizations and deaths (see No News Is . . . Now Commonplace), and with the WHO moving to monthly (not weekly) epidemiological reports, we find ourselves facing an uncertain fall - and an emerging BA.2.86 variant - with far less real-time data than we'd like. The decision to declare `victory' over the pandemic, and `move on' by treating COVID as if it was equivalent to the `flu', was motivated by widespread (and understandable) pandemic fatigue, economic concerns, and political necessities. Of course, for it to work, the SARS-CoV-2 virus would have to cooperate. While it's true we've seen far fewer hospitalizations and deaths over the past 6 months, Long COVID continues to plague, and sometimes permanently disable, millions of those infected. - And as the SARS-COV-2 virus evolves and mutates, the number of pharmacological treatment options continue to dwindle (see ECDC: SARS-CoV-2 Variant Mutations Conferring Reduced Susceptibility to Antiviral Drugs and Monoclonal Antibodies), and vaccines become less effective. While a `milder' Omicron lineage has reigned for the better part of two years, the SARS-CoV-2 virus continues to evolve, as it circulates in both human and non-human hosts (deer, mink, rodents, etc.). The emergence of a dominant post-Omicron lineage at some point may not be inevitable, but given the mutability of the virus, it is a pretty good bet. Whether that is happening right now is up for debate. BA.2.86 represents the biggest antigenic leap we've seen with COVID since Omicron burst onto the scene in the fall of 2021, but our collective switch to a politically expedient `Don't test, don't tell' strategy deprives us of badly needed data. Right now, we don't know how well this variant is transmitting, the extent of its spread, or much of anything at all about its severity (or lack, thereof). BA.2.86 could turn out to be a flash in the pan, unable to compete with more transmissible XBB variants. Conversely, BA.2.86 might be a contender. Or possibly a springboard for one of its descendants. Even it doesn't currently have the `right stuff' to conquer the world, it demonstrates that big leaps in COVID's evolution are still possible. DJ...if you do not even monitor a high risk disease how one can control it in time ? Profits "economy" again being put above global public health...The rich need to get even more rich now...even if it will kill us all soon... Beyond crazy...humans are self destructive !
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 05 2023 at 6:22am
	Josette Schoenmakers reposted Ninaad Lasrado, PhD @lasradoN · 12h New data from our lab @BarouchLab on the Neutralization Escape of BA.2.86, FL.1.5.1, EG.5.1, and XBC.1.6. We had a well-defined cohort of 66 participants, with people who did and did not receive bivalent mRNA vaccines. A thread. - Barouch Lab @BarouchLab · 12h New data from the Barouch Lab on BA.2.86. 1. NAb responses to BA.2.86 were lower than to BA.2 but were comparable or higher than to current circulating variants. 2. NAb titers to all variants including BA.2.86 increased following XBB infection -(NAb=Neutralizing Antibodies= immunity reaction/protection) There is a lot of discussion on new variants-and immunity. BA.2.86 "is still developing" ... JWeiland @JPWeiland · 12h Replying to @JPWeiland Based on the data alone (suggested reduced infectivity AND only modest immune escape) one would think it wouldn't spread at all, and die out. But we're finding it popping up everywhere and growing. Something isn't adding up, but I'm not sure what it is. - CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 15h Israel: BA.2.86 at 16% of cases in one hospital. "Samson Assuta Ashdod University Hospital announced on Monday that BA.2.86 accounted for over 16% of cases in Israel as of Sunday night based on Health Ministry data." [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-claims-that-ba-2-86-variant-found-in-waste-samples-from-5-locations-in-near-bangkok-urgent-validation-needed-from-thailand-medical-authoritie[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-claims-that-ba-2-86-variant-found-in-waste-samples-from-5-locations-in-near-bangkok-urgent-validation-needed-from-thailand-medical-authoritie DJ..If there was still effective immunity one would not expect to see BA.2.86 cases this widespread... CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 16h Spain: Covid cases up by 70% in one week. The incidence rate of Covid-19 in Primary Care in Spain is 130.2 cases per 100,000 inhabitants. It has increased by 69.53 percent compared to the previous week, when there were 76.8 cases and CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 16h Italy: Covid cases up 28% in one week. The regions that have recorded the greatest increase in new cases are Lombardy and Veneto, both with more than two thousand weekly infections, followed by Lazio and Campania. - CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 16h BA.2.86 may already be causing "significant community transmission" in Britain. - CoronaHeadsUp reposted Mike Hoerger, PhD MSCR MBA @michael_hoerger · Sep 4 Replying to @BNOFeed That's about a 24-folder underestimate. We are closer to 5.6 million cases per week in the U.S. DJ, Josette Schoenmakers @JosetteSchoenma · Sep 2 I totally agree! I just noticed yesterday how many different Flip branches there are under EG.5.1 and how well they are all tracked by NKrMnZr on GitHub , after 2 of such samples from the Netherlands showed up. there are more variants than BA.2.86...and -again- much higher risks may be in variants that result in symptoms later on... People with COVID-19 From ZOE Health Study reports 1,185,587 People are currently predicted to have symptomatic COVID in the UK Updated 5 September, 5:00am DJ, self reporting of symptoms, waste water data, on top of very limited testing give an indication...And the indication points to moving towards another major crisis...
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 06 2023 at 3:30am
	[url]https://www.estofex.org/[/url] or https://www.estofex.org/ ; Storm Forecast Valid: Wed 06 Sep 2023 06:00 to Thu 07 Sep 2023 06:00 UTC Issued: Tue 05 Sep 2023 18:53 Forecaster: GROENEMEIJER A level 2 was issued across parts of Greece for exceptionally heavy rainfall, and to a lesser extent for tornadoes. A level 1 was issued across an area surrounding the level 2 area for the same hazards, and for large hail across the southwestern Aegean Sea and the Peloponnese. A level 1 was issued around the Caucasus mountains for large hail and heavy precipitation. A level 1 was issued for Southwest England and western Brittany for large hail and locally heavy precipitation. DJ, Parts of Greece may have had over 1 meter, up to 3-4 feet of rain within 48 hours...[url]https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/083846.shtml?cone#contents[/url] or https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/083846.shtml?cone#contents "Lee" could become a US/Canada problem end of next week...as a major hurricane... Weather disasters are the outcome of exponential climate collapse...Lots of scientists did warn...only to be ignored by "politics"...Empty words do not solve problems...so we should prepare for even more crazy weather only getting more bizarre...we are on that train... CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 15h MERS: Three cases, two deaths in Saudi Arabia. From 13 September 2022 to 12 August 2023, three lab-confirmed cases of MERS-CoV, including two deaths, were reported to WHO by the Ministry of Health of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. - CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 15h Italy: H5N1 in pet cats and dogs "Here we report a case of influenza A(H5N1) infection in a domestic cat and five dogs living on a rural backyard poultry farm where an HPAI H5N1 outbreak was notified." See also ; [url]https://www.poultrymed.com/templates/showpage.asp?DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=178&FID=5008&IID=86395[/url] or https://www.poultrymed.com/templates/showpage.asp?DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=178&FID=5008&IID=86395 ; The virus that was identified in hens on the same farm, potentially responsible for transmitting the virus to the pet carnivores, belonged to the BB genotype. This genotype emerged in Europe in May 2022 due to reassortment events involving gull-adapted H13 subtype viruses. The PA, NP, and NS genes were acquired from these subtype viruses. Genotype BB was initially identified in Italy in January 2023 and has since spread widely among black-headed gulls in northern Italy. This spread led to mass mortality events around Lake Garda in the same geographical area where the affected farm is located. Interestingly, the virus characterized in this study, which was detected in hens, differed from all other HPAI A(H5N1) clade 2.3.4.4b viruses circulating in poultry and birds. It exhibited a mutation in the PB2 protein, specifically T271A. This mutation is a marker of the virus's adaptation to mammalian species and has previously been associated with increased polymerase activity in mammalian cells. Notably, it is also present in the 2009 pandemic A(H1N1) virus. Despite the infection, the pets described in this report showed no symptoms, raising concerns about the possibility of subclinical infections with zoonotic viruses in animals that are in close contact with humans. DJ-A-symptomatic spread of H5N1 in company animals with the virus better able to spread/infect also humans.... CoronaHeadsUp reposted Ninaad Lasrado, PhD @lasradoN · Sep 5 New data from our lab @BarouchLab on the Neutralization Escape of BA.2.86, FL.1.5.1, EG.5.1, and XBC.1.6. We had a well-defined cohort of 66 participants, with people who did and did not receive bivalent mRNA vaccines. A thread. -So...like climate change or NATO wars main stream propaganda/corrupt politics go for "we did beat the virus" while we are moving towards a total collapse... -Economic; BRICS+ controls global energy...NATO de facto is at war with BRICS... -Health care can not deal with several pandemics at the same time...CoViD, H5N1 no doubt lots of others Idengue/malaria) -Political...present "leaders" did lead us towards this total crisis... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/ba-2-86-news-total-of-36-ba-2-86-sequences-now-found-in-the-united-kingdom-ba-2-86-spawns-new-sub-lineage-ba-2-86-1-with-orf1a-k1973r-mutation[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/ba-2-86-news-total-of-36-ba-2-86-sequences-now-found-in-the-united-kingdom-ba-2-86-spawns-new-sub-lineage-ba-2-86-1-with-orf1a-k1973r-mutation How cynical can one get ? Do "politics/governments" decrease testing/reporting to hide their total failure and crime ? Will we get even more censorship (outsourced to "social" media) ? Will we see an escalation of wars because the alternative would show how bad western political emptyness is doing ? ---------- I would love to believe better times will come...but HOW ???? Politics did run away from the problems they created...kicking evermore cans down the road...and there is an end to that ! I do no longer know what is worse, nuclear all out war or the mix of pandemics, climate collapse and social system break down...The only "good" thing of avoiding nuclear war could be maybe some survivors may be able to build a better world...Climate collapse, pandemics know no borders...BRICS+ will see very major problems as well... The economic damage both climate and pandemic disasters will bring will be unpayable...we have to rethink the economy to make some (young people) survive... For now we are agressively denying the scale and number of problems...For the "west" it is like a billionaire ending up homeless...down on the street... People may be unable to catch the massive scale of problems knocking on our door NOW !!!...Reminds me of tsunami-waves much higher then expected...destroying cities... ------------ Heat waves able to kill millions of people with hours... Diseases -very likely slow killers- with simply NO healthcare capacity left... Food/water crises in major cities with millions of people in very serious problems... Internet/power collapse...for a growing number of people for a growing amount of time.... We HAVE !!!! to prepare for this but we push trillions into crazy wars....In a democracy you may not get much votes by warning for very bad scenario's...Even if people could see present, last few years, as a very clear warning... Masks may help keeping virus particles out...but when dealing with a flood, extreme heat in combination with pandemics people may no longer care about those masks...
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 07 2023 at 7:50am
	Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · 54m Scotland have updated their Covid wastewater signal today. It’s now DOUBLE the previous high from the whole of the last 12 months. This isn’t just a little ‘blip’, we’re looking at some serious exponential growth here. @UKHSA @SRileyIDD , are you paying attention? a look at [url]https://health-study.zoe.com/data[/url] or https://health-study.zoe.com/data ; People with COVID-19 From ZOE Health Study reports 1,219,750 People are currently predicted to have symptomatic COVID in the UK Updated 7 September, 5:00am DJ...very likely the UK numbers may give a hint on global increase... CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 9h Nature: SARS-CoV-2 infection and persistence in the human body and brain at autopsy. "We show that SARS-CoV-2 is widely distributed .. and that virus replication is present in multiple respiratory and non-respiratory tissues, including the brain. link [url]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05542-y[/url] or https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05542-y CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 16h CDC: Around 15% of all U.S. adults have experienced Long Covid. Some states have far higher rates of Long Covid than others. https://cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/pulse/long-covid.htm DJ long-often chronic-CoViD infection makes CoViD much worse than a flu or cold... Josette Schoenmakers @JosetteSchoenma · 21h 84 BA.2.86 now, because of 10 new ones from South Africa. Gauteng 6 Mpumalanga 3 North West 1 In total since the 15th of July, 13 out of 103 samples were BA.2.86 in SA. 8/57, 3/3 and 1/1 for the 3 provences resp.! Please note how different this chart looks. No cluster! The BA.2.86 by now will have several sub-variants... [url]https://twitter.com/JosetteSchoenma/status/1699429618543956373/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/JosetteSchoenma/status/1699429618543956373/photo/1 also in NL waste water... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/experts-and-health-authorities-claims-that-current-sars-cov-2-sub-lineages-do-not-cause-disease-severity-so-why-are-covid-19-hospitalizations-increasi[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/experts-and-health-authorities-claims-that-current-sars-cov-2-sub-lineages-do-not-cause-disease-severity-so-why-are-covid-19-hospitalizations-increasi and [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/south-korean-ferret-study-finds-sars-cov-2-nsp12-p323l-and-g671s-mutations-causes-enhanced-transmissibility-and-virus-replication-in-upper-airway[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/south-korean-ferret-study-finds-sars-cov-2-nsp12-p323l-and-g671s-mutations-causes-enhanced-transmissibility-and-virus-replication-in-upper-airway Of course mainstream ignoring real news...."pandemic is over" , "climate problems after 2100", "Ukraine is winning" insanity...
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

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	The post above showing 'CoronaHeadsUp' does not align with the date on its Twitter thread, which only goes to 19 Aug., apparently 2023. Until recently, all Twitter threads showed the most recent posts first.
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	[url]https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us7000kufc/executive[/url] or https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us7000kufc/executive M 6.8 - Morocco 2023-09-08 22:11:01 (UTC) 31.110°N 8.440°W 18.5 km depth - [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/09/rutte-and-royals-express-concerns-for-moroccan-quake-victims/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/09/rutte-and-royals-express-concerns-for-moroccan-quake-victims/ ; The magnitude 7.2 quake, which hit southern Morocco overnight on Friday, has killed more than 600 people according to Reuters. It is the worst earthquake since 2004, and struck in the High Atlas mountains where the most casualties occurred. DJ, related [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Agadir_earthquake[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Agadir_earthquake In Morocco over 800 people got killed by a relative not that strong earthquake. Very likely most people were at home, some sleeping, when the quake happened. [url]https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/084731.shtml?cone#contents[/url] or https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/084731.shtml?cone#contents In the Atlantic "Lee" may bring problems. Within a week to the east of the US, Canada...later on it may move hot air towards Greenland/Arctic. Brazil, China a.o. did see major damage due to extreme weather the past few days. Climate collapse is a motor behind worsening storms, quakes and pandemics. CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 14h UK: "Pressures inside my hospital & many others have to be seen to be believed at the moment. Horrendous, worse than so-called winter crises." and Rachel Clarke @doctor_oxford · 23h 1. Summer is over and pressures inside my hospital & many others have to be seen to be believed at the moment. Horrendous, worse than so-called “winter” crises. The government knows this, they know it will only get worse in the run up to winter, & they simply don’t give a damn. DJ...I would have loved it to be WRONG on a pandemic pause !!! I would LOVE to see CoViD, H5N1 NOT to be a risk... "Politics" is supposed to work for the public...at present derailed "politics" are working AGAINST public interests ! (When I look at NL most "politicians" have an ego more than an answer...). Cat in the Hat reposted tern @1goodtern · 3h A short thread about the current accuracy of reporting of daily covid death counts in England. My experience of the situation in England is that most hospitals are only testing people with serious respiratory illness for Covid. DJ...BA.2.86 "not a major risk"...only spreading like wildfire....[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/u-s-medical-news-modeling-platform-shows-720,000-new-daily-covid-19-infections-in-america-in-last-24-hours-with-1-in-46-americans-currently-infected[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/u-s-medical-news-modeling-platform-shows-720,000-new-daily-covid-19-infections-in-america-in-last-24-hours-with-1-in-46-americans-currently-infected ... So what will be next ? A total ban on CoViD testing ? Punishments for any info on the next pandemic wave on the internet ? Prof. Christina Pagel reposted JWeiland @JPWeiland · 12h September 8th US update: Community spread of Covid is "high", with a correction upwards last week as well. Current estimates: 720,000 new infections/day 1 in every 460 new people were infected today 1 in every 46 people currently infected DJ, defund scientists not spreading the message politics want them to spread ? Eric Feigl-Ding reposted Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing · Jan 28, 2022 Claim: “67% of #COVID hospitalized are vaccinated? Vaccines not working?” No—due to “base rate fallacy”. To illustrate—suppose 50% of unvaccinated are hospitalized, while 10% of vaxxed are, but many more vaccinated. You can get the 67% above. Don’t be misled! Or do "politics" support des-info campains...? DJ-I hate to go for claims like "When does a politician lie ? When (s)he opens her/his mouth !" But just like with climate collapse politics FAIL !!! So...further escalation of NATO wars ? As an excuse for even more censorship ? The basic pandemic problem is both bad politics and most of the public going for non-sense des-info...
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 10 2023 at 5:28am
	CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp Neher: "BA.2.86 is clearly transmitting well and has likely caused 100s of thousands infections since its emergence earlier this year. Otherwise it would not have been picked up by the much scaled down surveillance." and Richard Neher @richardneher · 19h Some more thoughts on BA.2.86 and preprint with @sigallab https://mstdn.science/@richardneher/111035088239391703 DJ and BA.2.86 may be only part of the new high risk new variants...Public healthcare is exhausted and destroyed by politics... New Scientist @newscientist Children between the ages of 4 months and 2 years who have had covid-19 are more likely to have antibodies that attack insulin-producing cells, a feature of type 1 diabetes Politics just let it happen..."boosting natural immunity".... CoronaHeadsUp reposted Nicholas @NicholasJN85 · Sep 6 Chapel Hill COVID-19 Wastewater values currently the highest of the ENTIRE pandemic: 150M copies per person, higher than 137M copies during Omicron. #CovidIsNotOver https://covid19.ncdhhs.gov/dashboard/wastewater-monitoring and CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp Kei Sato: "Neutralizing antibodies induced by any vaccine, including 3 and 4 doses of monovalent vaccine, bivalent vaccination of BA.1, and bivalent vaccination of BA.5, have almost no effect on BA.2.86." https://naokoiwanaga.theletter.jp/posts/fa689430-4df5-11ee-a74c-ab7fc073140e DJ, again...there is hardly any testing left... [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/americans-divided-mask-mandates-make-comeback-amid-covid-19-surge[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/americans-divided-mask-mandates-make-comeback-amid-covid-19-surge Governments have lost public trust...In crisis communication others may give it a try... I think there is a point in -limiting social contacts AND -masks in public spaces AND -ventilation AND -good testing AND -honest info AND etc.... It was supposed to be a government job to protect the public from danger...and governments simply did not do their job ! [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-news-amidst-flawed-covid-19-variant-monitoring-and-fake-claims,-new-preprint-suggest-ba-2-86-is-more-transmissible-and-possibly-wide-spread[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-news-amidst-flawed-covid-19-variant-monitoring-and-fake-claims,-new-preprint-suggest-ba-2-86-is-more-transmissible-and-possibly-wide-spread and [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/two-respiratory-virus-updates-from-cdc.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/two-respiratory-virus-updates-from-cdc.html
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 11 2023 at 4:32am
	DJ, I think the CoViD-pandemic-pause may be over. One of many questions is if BA.2.86 [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BA.2.86[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BA.2.86 is behind a lot of spread. Pinned Raj Rajnarayanan @RajlabN · Sep 9 #COVID19 #VariantDashboard - #USA Top #SARSCoV2 Lineages #21DAYTRENDS XBB.1.16.6 (8.3%) EG.5.1.1 (7.3%) EG.5.1 (6.7%) FL.1.5.1 (6.3%) XBB.1.16 (5.9%) GJ.1.2 (3.7%) XBB.1.5 (2.9%) EG.5.1.3 (2.7%) HV.1 (2.7%) Tracker: http://tinyurl.com/mryj4uu7 \| 09/08/23 A.o. indicate a mix of (sub)variants may be increasing. CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 13h Japan: 100,000+ new Covid cases in one week. The average number of cases at the 5,000 institutions came to 20.50, marking the third straight week of an increase in the average. and CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 13h Japan to end free COVID-19 vaccinations in March 2024. - CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 18h Scotland: Infection expert calls for return of free Covid tests "If you can, get a lateral flow test, and I would like to see lateral flow tests become freely available again because a lot of the people who would be taking them, can't afford them." DJ..."politics" simply in denial of the pandemic make matters worse... CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 13h Arkansas: Gorilla tests positive for COVID-19 Kivu, the zoo’s silverback gorilla, tested positive after displaying mild symptoms earlier this week. as a reminder of CoViD by now also being widespread in non-human hosts. Cat in the Hat reposted Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · 13h Replying to @_CatintheHat To make matters worse, we’re starting this Autumn term with Covid rates even HIGHER than they were this time last year… …and the year before… …and the year before that! In fact, it’s currently worse than it was during any of the 3 national lockdowns. link [url]https://twitter.com/_CatintheHat/status/1700987683965936010/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/_CatintheHat/status/1700987683965936010/photo/1 still lots of governments tell people with only mild symptoms should go to school, job etc... Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing · 14h · Want to know why even mildly symptomatic sick folks shouldn’t attend school/work? Because they can exhale high viral loads for 8 days! (as high as 1,000 virus copies per minute! #MaskUp? If you don’t stay home or mask—use at least #HEPA. #COVID19 https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2023/09/covid-patients-exhale-up-to-1000-copies-of-virus-per-minute-during-first-eight-days-of-symptoms/ DJ, since also investments in ventilation were often NOT made we repeat now a lot of mistakes in a short time... JWeiland @JPWeiland · Sep 9 September 8th US update: Community spread of Covid is "high", with a correction upwards last week as well. Current estimates: 720,000 new infections/day 1 in every 460 new people were infected today 1 in every 46 people currently infected So...with also the climate becoming a total disaster...lets escalate wars !!!! CRAZY !!!!!
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 13 2023 at 3:27am
	Josette Schoenmakers reposted Andrew Urquhart @wolfeagle1989 · Sep 11 CoV-Spectrum has new data. On #Collection42 https://cov-spectrum.org/collections/42, BA.2.86.1 (even without the UK care home cluster) is now in the lead followed by BA.2.86. Note: this could be influenced by sampling bias. The next leaders are XCH.1 followed by GS.4.1 (XBB.2.3.11.4.1). 1/ and Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · 13h Since I posted these charts 4 days ago, the ZOE Covid data has gone silent… No updates since 8th September. @timspector @ChristinaYHu @Join_ZOE - what’s going on? Please tell me you haven’t pulled the plug? DJ...less and less info on -what seems to be- increasing number of CoViD cases... [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/niaid-study-identifies-concerning-h5n1.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/niaid-study-identifies-concerning-h5n1.html ; They singled out one mutation to monitor: “… we are particularly concerned by the presence of PB2 D701N in 2 sea lion samples, and in a human case reported in Chile, as this mutation has been specifically linked to mammalian host adaptation and enhanced transmission.” - “An even larger concern,” they say, “is the possibility of spillover into human populations.” They say public awareness campaigns are needed to inform people about the presence of HPAI influenza and to avoid contact with animals that appear ill. The study notes that the outbreak in Peru occurred along the Pacific coast and during the summer, when many people go to the beach. “It is not uncommon,” the study states, “for beachgoers (and their pets) to interact with sick and disoriented animals without any knowledge of the risks, or for free-roaming dogs in rural and semi-rural coastal areas to encounter sick or dead animals as they scavenge for food.” In particular, they note, workers responsible for cleaning animal carcasses need additional training in the proper use of personal protective equipment and on waste management and disposal. “People in contact with sick and dead animals infected with HPAI A/H5N1 are at risk of infection,” the researchers say, “and human cases could be missed in the absence of active and obvious human-to-human transmission.” - Although there is understandably a good deal of concern over past and present GOF (Gain of Function) experiments on H5N1 in laboratories around the world (see here, here, and here), the largest unregulated, and largely unmonitored, laboratory in the world is nature. And over the past couple of years - to our potential detriment - it appears to be working overtime on H5 avian flu. DJ...there could be protection, masks, ventilation, limiting travel and mass meetings.... [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/09/fewer-amsterdam-children-are-vaccinated-rate-drops-to-83/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/09/fewer-amsterdam-children-are-vaccinated-rate-drops-to-83/ The number of Amsterdam children vaccinated against diseases such as measles has fallen for the third year in a row, according to new figures from the regional health board. Just 83% of the under-twos in the capital were fully vaccinated last year, compared with above 90% in the years up to 2020. The trend is similar among younger children and teenagers, the health board said. The World Health Organization has set a 90% target for childhood vaccinations to reduce the risk of a measles or polio outbreak. It has named the mistrust of vaccinations – driven by the coronavirus pandemic – one of the 10 biggest risks to global health. DJ, "for profit pharma" may reduce public trust in pharma.... My view; Governments have to do public duties themselves. From public housing, transport to public education and healthcare....The "market" idea, "privatizing everything" , " only profits matter" neo-liberal/conservative madness has to stop ! [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/hurricane-season-could-pummel-american-supply-chains[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/hurricane-season-could-pummel-american-supply-chains We are dealing with a "mega-mix" of very major risks...but "politics" still is in denial modus... The extreme rain/floods in Derna/Libya in part could kill thousends because NATO did destroy the Libya Qadaffi-government. Furter escalation of wars in Ukraine, Syria, Niger, Sudan etc. -to stop BRICS- is increasing the risks for global public health. Climate disasters may be a new "normal"...resulting in cholera, malaria etc. worsening...famines... STILL we do not see a global answer. Maybe one of the reason BRICS is growing is they may take the problems more serious.
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 14 2023 at 3:22am
	CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 11h Covid may have permanently damaged people's immunity. "People are turning up at long Covid clinics and saying: 'No one told me that my fourth or fifth infection could cause this'. and CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 11h Study: Model-based assessment of the risk of sudden failure of hybrid immunity to SARS-CoV-2 "Our findings suggest large jumps in viral evolution may cause failure of population immunity resulting in sudden increases in mortality." link [url]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.02.26.23286471v1.full[/url] or https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.02.26.23286471v1.full ; Abstract In the fourth year of the COVID-19 pandemic, public health authorities worldwide have adopted a strategy of learning to live with SARS-CoV-2. This has involved the removal of measures for limiting viral spread, resulting in a large burden of recurrent SARS-CoV-2 infections. Crucial for managing this burden is the concept of the so-called wall of hybrid immunity, through repeated reinfections and vaccine boosters, to reduce the risk of severe disease and death. Protection against both infection and severe disease is provided by the induction of neutralizing antibodies (nAbs) against SARS-CoV-2. However, pharmacokinetic (PK) waning and rapid viral evolution both degrade nAb binding titers. The recent emergence of variants with strongly immune evasive potential against both the vaccinal and natural immune responses raises the question of whether the wall of population-level immunity can be maintained in the face of large jumps in nAb binding potency. Here we use an agent-based simulation to address this question. Our findings suggest large jumps in viral evolution may cause failure of population immunity resulting in sudden increases in mortality. As a rise in mortality will only become apparent in the weeks following a wave of disease, reactive public health strategies will not be able to provide meaningful risk mitigation. Learning to live with the virus could thus lead to large death tolls with very little warning. Our work points to the importance of proactive management strategies for the ongoing pandemic, and to the need for multifactorial approaches to COVID-19 disease control. DJ, Both CoViD and H5N1/flu types are the known risks...M-pox showed to be a surprise...Climate collapse, crazy wars only increases risks... We are moving into a dangerzone that could become massive killing events soon...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Daniel[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Daniel may be one of the indicators of things to come...NATO regime change resulting in a failed state did worsen the response on this weather disaster. The storm/rain itself turned out to be larger-maybe more south-than expected. So in part even a good functioning state could not have prevented part of the destruction... [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derna,_Libya#Storm_Daniel[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derna,_Libya#Storm_Daniel ; On 10 September 2023, Storm Daniel made landfall in Libya near Benghazi. While moving east-southeast, the storm caused torrential rainfall and extreme flooding in Derna, prompting the government to declare a state of emergency for the area,^[26]^[27] after two dam collapses (next day)^[28] caused floodwaters to inundate the areas around the Wadi Derna river.^[29]^[30] At least 2,000 people were confirmed dead,^[31] while a government minister said that 25% of Derna had "disappeared",^[32] with large parts of the city dragged out to sea.^[33] DJ. Derna had a population of 90,000...25% of the buildings-near the river-may be gone...very likely close to 25% of the population with it...most of them ending in the Mediterranean Sea...A next step in this crisis could see lots of diseases...with NATO also restarting conflicts against a pro-BRICS eastern Libya government... Disaters are bad...a mega-mix of disasters means "mega-death"...
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 15 2023 at 11:02am
	Cat in the Hat reposted Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · Sep 13 2.6 MILLION LONG-TERM SICK (U.K.) That’s yet another record high and the number keeps rising & rising. This is not a surprise. It’s predicted by practically every study worldwide into the chronic long-term effects of Covid… - Cat in the Hat reposted Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · Sep 13 ENGLAND: Covid booster only available to a small proportion of people (over 65’s, high risk & HCW). They will be getting last year’s leftover vax supplies. USA: Covid booster available to EVERYONE aged 6 months & older. They will be getting the NEW updated XBB vaccine. DJ, [url]https://www.rivm.nl/en/news/covid-19-vaccination-for-risk-groups-over-60s-flu-vaccine-group-care-workers-and-pregnant[/url] or https://www.rivm.nl/en/news/covid-19-vaccination-for-risk-groups-over-60s-flu-vaccine-group-care-workers-and-pregnant ; From 19 September 2023 on, the first people will receive an invitation for COVID-19 vaccination. The first invitations will be sent by RIVM to people aged 60 years and older. No invitation letter will be sent to care workers, pregnant women, or people aged 18 to 59 years who receive an annual invitation to get the flu vaccine. Starting in mid-October, these groups can make an appointment directly with the Municipal Public Health Services (GGDs) via planjeprik.nl or 0800-7070. This also applies to people who are not in the target groups, but would still like to receive a COVID-19 vaccination due to a vulnerable family member or as advised by a treating physician. The Municipal Public Health Services (GGDs) throughout the country will start giving the COVID-19 vaccination as of 2 October 2023. The latest available vaccine will be used, which has been adapted to target the XBB variant. There will also be ; Don't want an mRNA vaccine? Then you can get a vaccination with the alternative vaccin Novavax. Call 0800 - 0174. And of course tax funded...DJ-I would not be surprised if DIY/at home tests also may become available for some groups for free...If you have a high risk family member you also can get vaccinated... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-sars-cov-2-infections-continue-to-surge-in-united-kingdom-with-covid-19-hospitalizations-increasing-by-30-percent-in-a-week[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-sars-cov-2-infections-continue-to-surge-in-united-kingdom-with-covid-19-hospitalizations-increasing-by-30-percent-in-a-week DJ, UK hospital-CoViD cases were quite low...so 30% increase still is not a major risk for "the system" yet... [url]https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/[/url] or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ and [url]https://health-study.zoe.com/data[/url] or https://health-study.zoe.com/data also NOT alarming yet.... Prof. Christina Pagel reposted Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD @PeterHotez · 5h 1/n What is Nipah virus? India rushes to contain outbreak. I’m watching this one closely, Nipah, like Covid, Ebola = zoonosis from bats. I imagine conspiracy websites will also allege it came from a lab. In the meantime we’re ignoring what needs to be done DJ, a mix of measures may help containing outbreaks...a mix of crazy non-sense may spread outbreaks.... [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/who-dead-bodies-from-natural-disasters.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/who-dead-bodies-from-natural-disasters.html ; The magnitude of the flooding disaster in Derna, Libya continues to unfold, but as of yesterday the death toll had risen to over 11,000 and there are still 10,000 people missing. It is likely the total death toll will approach 20K. Mass casualty events - such as we saw with the Boxing Day Tsunami of 2004 (est death toll > 230K), and the 2010 earthquake in Haiti (est. 300,000 deaths) - inevitably raise concerns over the public health risks from dead bodies. Initial recovery efforts are, understandably, directed towards helping the survivors, while the recovery of bodies takes secondary importance. As a result, bodies can sometimes remain in place for days or even weeks, and in warm climates, decomposition rapidly takes hold. But with few exceptions, decaying bodies from trauma or natural disasters (as opposed to epidemics) do not pose a serious threat of spreading disease. If they did, the life expectancy of medical examiners, morticians, and rescue and recovery personnel around the world would be substantially shortened. - Though local authorities and communities can be under immense pressure to bury the dead quickly, the consequences of mismanagement of the dead include long lasting mental distress for family members as well as social and legal problems. Well managed burials include easily traceable and properly documented individual graves in demarcated burial sites. This should ensure that the exact location of each dead body, as well as the associated information and personal belongings, is known as outlined in guidance developed by the organizations, in particular the ICRC/IFRC/WHO Manual for the Management of the Dead After Disasters. Cremations should not take place before the body is positively identified. - The bodies of people who have died following wounds sustained in a natural disaster or armed conflict almost never pose a health danger to communities. This is because victims who have died from trauma, drowning or fire do not normally harbour organisms that cause disease with common precautions. The exceptions are when deaths occur from infectious diseases such as Ebola or Marburg diseases or cholera, or when the disaster occurred in an area endemic for these infectious diseases. Under any circumstance, dead bodies near or in water supplies can lead to health concerns, as the bodies may leak feces and contaminate water sources, leading to a risk of diarrheal or other illness. Bodies should not be left in contact with drinking water sources. “The belief that dead bodies will cause epidemics is not supported by evidence. We see too many cases where media reports and even some medical professionals get this issue wrong,” said Pierre Guyomarch, the head of ICRC’s forensics unit. “Those who survive an event like a natural disaster are more likely to spread disease than dead bodies.” - The only time dead bodies pose a health risk of epidemics is when the deaths resulted from some infectious diseases or when a natural disaster occurs in an area where such a disease is endemic. Lime powder does not hasten decomposition, and since dead bodies in disaster or conflict are generally not an infectious risk, the disinfection of these bodies is not needed. After any contact with the deceased, hands should be washed with soap and water, or cleaned with alcohol-based hand rub if there is no visible soiling. a. The ICRC, IFRC and WHO urge all parties to conflict, and responders in disasters, to follow established principles for the management of dead bodies, for the good of all of society, and have offered further support as needed. DJ, diseases can also get imported by aid-providers (Haïti UN peacekeepers from Nepal are linked to importing cholera from Nepal [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_Haiti_cholera_outbreak[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_Haiti_cholera_outbreak ) However lots of wounded may overrun health care capacity in a larger region...
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 17 2023 at 4:11am
	On sunday september 17 1944 [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Market_Garden[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Market_Garden ; Operation Market Garden was an Allied military operation during the Second World War fought in the German-occupied Netherlands from 17 to 27 September 1944. Its objective was to create a 64 mi (103 km) salient into German territory with a bridgehead over the Nederrijn (Lower Rhine River), creating an Allied invasion route into northern Germany.^[8] This was to be achieved by two sub-operations: seizing nine bridges with combined US and British airborne forces (Market) followed by British land forces swiftly following over the bridges (Garden). British General Bernard Montgomery was the architect of Market Garden. resulting in [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arnhem[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arnhem ...(there have been several battles of Arnhem [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arnhem_(1813)[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arnhem_(1813) ...if the NATO-BRICS+ war escalates further another "battle of Arnhem" may be the end of Arnhem...) There has been a lot of discussion on this operation/battle being a success or disaster...It did weaken the Germans...but "after Arnhem" hope to end the (European) war in 1944 was gone...Most of the people that died in this world war died in/after september '44... ---------- It would have been so welcome to see "war" as something of the past...Civilization and wars would not mix...It is sad to see that after napoleon, nazi's had to move east now nato had to move east again...A main reason why people do NOT learn anything from history is they do NOT want to learn a thing from history... Pandemics take years...but it does not get votes to tell people there are no easy solutions...Climate collapse may be a fact...but people do not want to give up their illusions...promoted by a consumer-ism and blind capitalism...Profits/short term even if in the long term it will destroy the planet... So...yes, we may be at the end of a "pandemic pause"...On the brink of "public health collapse"....outbreaks of MANY diseases, mixed with climate disasters, wars, socio-economic break down. I have a limited background in history; events ALWAYS need to be linked to their background to better understand them. Without World War One the Spanish Flu very likely could have been limited...taking less lives... CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 10h Flu/RSV coinfection produces hybrid virus that evades immune defenses "Two common respiratory viruses - influenza A virus (IAV) and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) - can fuse to form a hybrid that better evades certain antibodies in vitro" and CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 11h Laura Miers: Public health has been captured. It protects business at the expense of humans. Save yourselves. DJ..if we do not change the way we live we soon will not live... Peter Kalmus @ClimateHuman · 19h I'll be part of the March to #EndFossilFuels tomorrow in NYC, because we all must show up and push, together, for Biden to end fossil fuel expansion and declare a climate emergency. For godssake. To find a march near you: http://fightfossilfuels.net Pandemics are NOT isolated events !!!! [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/09/fossil-fuel-benefits-boost-industry-by-up-to-e46-billion/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/09/fossil-fuel-benefits-boost-industry-by-up-to-e46-billion/ ; Industry that uses oil, gas and coal benefits by up to €46.4 billion a year from lower taxes, government investment and other indirect subsidies, according to leaked figures from the economic affairs ministry. The information is included in documents that should have been published on Tuesday at the government’s budget presentation, but has been widely quoted in the Dutch media. DJ...[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/09/junk-in-the-environment-boosts-parkinsons-cases-30/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/09/junk-in-the-environment-boosts-parkinsons-cases-30/ ; The number of people in the Netherlands with Parkinson’s disease has gone up 30% over the past decade, according to a new study, published in Dutch medical journal NTG. The research, carried out at several Dutch hospitals, shows that the increase is due to both pollution and pesticides, and that fact the population is getting older, lead researcher Bas Bloem told the AD. The amount of “junk in the environment”, including pesticides, is a major factor, Bloem said. “We know that farmers and market gardeners have much more risk of developing Parkison’s and people living close to arable farms also have a higher risk.” We are-at the end-destroying ourselves ! Post See new posts Conver Cat in the Hat reposted Pedro Lérias rplerias.bsky.social @RPLerias Study: Long COVID in a highly vaccinated population infected during a SARS-CoV-2 Omicron wave – Australia, 2022 (preprint) 1. 18% reported Long COVID symptoms; 2. of these, 17.9% reported reducing/discontinuing work/study; 3. more vaccine doses reduced the risk. DJ
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 18 2023 at 3:03am
	DJ, here in NW Europe september and october may bring lots of migratory birds with an increase of (new types of ???) avian-flu. In wild birds H5N1 still was detected-eventough the number of H5N1 detected in poultry/farm birds did decrease. With wild animals eating infected birds the number of H5N1 (etc) infected wild animals also is increasing. From sea-lions to house cats... Another worry is "SARS-3" -with CoViD widespread outside humans...Both H5N1 and CoViD can get mixed with diseases not known in humans...We-as humans-may have NO defense/immunity against that kind of new diseases. CoViD infection itself may result in a weaker immune response... On top of that climate collapse and the insanity of wars even worsen the background for human survival. DJ-I find it very hard to believe "global politics" can be that blind for global risks... Peter Kalmus reposted People vs. Fossil Fuels @FightFossils · 14h Peter Kalmus: I am a scientist. The scientists of the world has spoken. We have to stop expanding fossil fuels a ramp down fossil fuels as quickly as we can. It could not be more clear. #ClimateAction #ClimateEmergency #EndFossilFuels fossil fuels are only part of a far bigger problem...We have to ACT NOW on so many "fronts"! CoronaHeadsUp reposted T. Ryan Gregory @TRyanGregory · 20h Hospitalizations in Canada are once again higher than the peak of the Delta wave. No one could have foreseen this. "sarcasm"...the pandemic-pause is over... CoronaHeadsUp reposted Federico Gueli @siamosolocani · 17h Lineages to watch: BA.2.86, Flip HK.3 JG.3 Flip+452R DV.7.1 HV.1 (452+456) Recomb Flip: XCH XCL XCM Flip+478: JF.1 GW.5 GW.5.1.1 Mix mutations: GA.4.1, GS.4.1, JE.1 , FL.1.5.2, XBB.1.16.24 , XBB.1.16.15, GL.1 , GJ.1.2 With 484K: EG.6.1.1 FL.30 No 486P: FW.1.1 CK.1.1.1 JH* ...among lots of others....Most countries have given up on testing...may miss also H5N1-linked spread in humans untill people end up in hospital/ICU... Cat in the Hat reposted Dr Sally Witcher @SalWitcher · 1h Why is there worldwide failure to grasp that Covid is airborne, spreads via tiny aerosols like smoke, & that therefore clean air & respiratory, not surgical masks, are needed? It's not just exasperating, it's genuinely bizarre. They cannot possibly not know. H/t @docjon55 YES...still better use surgical masks than no mask... Cat in the Hat reposted Lucy_of_somewhere @LucyofL · 17h The humane and economically rational response to Long Covid is to: A - Throw £ at finding a cure B - Stop more ppl getting it The prob is that both require the gov to admit LongCovid exists and getting reinfected constantly isn’t a good idea. CoViD is NOT flu !!!...There will be cases of "Post Viral Syndrome" also with flu...however with CoViD risks are much higher, and much more damage is done ! Cat in the Hat reposted Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · Sep 16 Replying to @_CatintheHat Meanwhile, they’re seeing a similar worrying trend in the US too… In late August, Covid ED visits for 0-15 year olds (the two yellow lines on this chart) reached the HIGHEST rate since the start of the pandemic, surpassing rates even for the oldest age group (75+). Since children in most cases/countries do not get vaccinated against CoViD they now start showing up in statistics of CoViD-infections... Cat in the Hat reposted	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 19 2023 at 1:42am
	[url]https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2023/09/a-climate-of-insanity.html[/url] or https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2023/09/a-climate-of-insanity.html ; As the emission of greenhouse gases continues, new fossil fuel projects are subsidized, global warming accelerates, bushfires and floods engulf the planet, climate science is ignored, climate change projections are kept away from the public eye, nations invest in killer submarines rather than water spraying aircraft and other fire-fighting equipment, politicians talk about clean coal, radioactive waters are spilled into the ocean, nuclear weapons are readied for a MAD scenario, the media reports sugar-coated semi or untruths, politicians routinely betray their original pledges and playboy billionaires fire rockets at space with plans to settle on Mars. Inherent in the nature of insanity is the fact that those inflicted by it are unaware of their mental state, nor are crowds of people or for that matter political parties, and business elites, leading populations to catastrophe, from the scale of Jonestown all the way to Auschwitz and Berlin to Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Which has now reached a planet-wide scale. According to NASA former chief climate scientist James Hansen, the global temperature in the current El Niño is exceeding the previous El-Niño (2015-16) temperature rise rate of 0.18°C per decade, reflecting the current increase of the Earth Energy Imbalance (EEI) and accelerated heating. The change is in part due to reductions of the cooling effect of human-emitted aerosols (Figure 1). - According to Hansen et al. (2012) “Burning all fossil fuels would create a different planet than the one that humanity knows. The paleoclimate record and ongoing climate change make it clear that the climate system would be pushed beyond tipping points, setting in motion irreversible changes, including ice sheet disintegration with a continually adjusting shoreline, extermination of a substantial fraction of species on the planet, and increasingly devastating regional climate extremes”. The habitability of Earth and the future of life are issues that are to a large extent avoided by the largely privately-owned corporate media and even by state media, occupied as they are by advertisements, sports contests, fashion parades, cooking shows and popular frenzies such as recently generated by the kissing of a football cup winner. Is there a way out for humanity and much of nature? If the multiple $trillions spent by Sapiens on the military and war were directed to environmental defence, including drawdown of atmospheric greenhouse gases, the possibility exists? A/Prof. Andrew Y Glikson Earth and Paleo-climate scientist DJ...I have a limited background in history...for most politicians history has to be ignored.... CoronaHeadsUp reposted Emmanuel @ejustin46 · Sep 18 HIV patient with presumably long-term COVID-19 infection = SARS-CoV-2 sample B.1.1 with a gain of 89 mutations ? "A highly divergent SARS-CoV-2 lineage B.1.1 sample in a patient with long-term COVID-19" https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.09.14.23295379v1 - Cat in the Hat reposted Dame Sa 3.5% @LongCovidHell · 19m Replying to @LongCovidHell Governments once told us that the following were harmless: Asbestos Lead paint Coal mining Smoking UPF food Because rich people were making money & it would cost a lot of money to undo it. Now they’re using our kids in an unethical herd immunity experiment. I do not consent. - Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · 38m I’m getting increasingly worried about the trend we’re seeing re: Covid in young children. And it’s not just here in the UK. People are raising the alarm in other countries too: US, Spain… Something different is happening here. And it’s very concerning. DJ, is there any point of talking reason to the insane ? Does protest serve any goal ? Cat in the Hat reposted Marvin @MarvinH2_G2 · Feb 8 Repeating a prev. angry comment: My (Dr) sister is BANNED from wearing FFP in a NHS covid ward. I handed her a spare N95 (I'd flown from USA to UK) in Scotland & tears welled up in her eyes. She said I wear better PPE in shops than she's allowed on covid wards. Think on that. Maybe repeating mistakes till the last HCW-er ? Just like "defending Ukraine till the last Ukrainian ? Cat in the Hat reposted Susie Dent @susie_dent · 17h Word of the day is another outing for ‘mumpsimus’ (16th century): one who sticks rigidly to their position, despite clear evidence that they shouldn’t. Are there any limits to stupidity ? YES...but the limit is ending our planet as a place of live...
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 20 2023 at 5:13am
	CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 15h Bird flu reaches the Galápagos Islands Dozens of dead and sick birds on two islands located north of the archipelago in the Pacific. and CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 16h H5N1 in Two Free-Ranging Black Bears, Quebec, Canada. "This female [bear] was wandering between vehicles, fell into a river, and began circling. Upon the arrival of park officials, the animal was in lateral recumbency and convulsing in a ditch." https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/29/10/23-0548_article DJ, H5N1 spreading from infected birds into mammals-now on a global scale... CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 17h South Africa: About a quarter of South Africa's poultry lost to H7N6. South Africa is already experiencing egg shortages and may start to face meat shortages within 4 to 6 weeks. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7 ; Influenza A virus subtype H7 may refer to: Influenza A virus subtype H7N1 Influenza A virus subtype H7N2 Influenza A virus subtype H7N3 Influenza A virus subtype H7N4 Influenza A virus subtype H7N7 Influenza A virus subtype H7N9 So is H7N6 new ? [url]https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/south-africa-battles-high-path-h7n6-avian-flu-poultry[/url] or https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/south-africa-battles-high-path-h7n6-avian-flu-poultry ; Outbreaks of highly pathogenic H7N6 avian flu that began at the end of May have led to the loss of about a quarter of South Africa's poultry, with layer farms hit hardest, according to a poultry industry official quoted in a South African agriculture publication. According to the World Organization for Animal Health (WOAH), the first outbreak began on May 29 in Mpumalanga province in the eastern part of the country. The outbreaks have spread to farms in four other provinces: Gauteng, Free State, Limpopo, and Northwest. and [url]https://agriorbit.com/hpai-crisis-new-south-african-strain-kills-fast/[/url] or https://agriorbit.com/hpai-crisis-new-south-african-strain-kills-fast/ ; “The new H7N6 strain of the virus is far more contagious than the H5N1 strain we have seen causing problems across the world recently,” Bisschop said. He added that the death toll was continually rising. - Izaak Breitenbach, CEO of SAPA’s broiler division, said while South Africa’s commercial poultry sector’s biosecurity was of a high standard, avian influenza was highly infectious. “The virus can be carried into a cage on a single dust particle, so it spreads incredibly easily. Even if your poultry houses stand 100m apart, that is close enough for the virus to jump from one house to the next.” Breitenbach added that wild birds perching on the roofs of poultry houses was their biggest problem. “If that bird loses just a feather, it could potentially float into the poultry house and cause the spread of the disease.” DJ...also no info on wiki on h7n6 in Afrikaans...[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6349713/[/url] or https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6349713/ ; Since 2013, H7N9 and H5N6 avian influenza viruses (AIVs) have caused sporadic human infections and deaths and continued to circulate in the poultry industry. Since 2014, H7N6 viruses which might be reassortants of H7N9 and H5N6 viruses, have been isolated in China. However, the biological properties of H7N6 viruses are unknown. Here, we characterize the receptor binding preference, pathogenicity and transmissibility of a H7N6 virus So a mix of H7N9 and H5N6...so far known in China now showing up in South Africa. AIVs, including H5N1, H5N6, H7N2, H7N3, H7N7, H7N9, H9N2, and H10N8 virus subtypes (Bender et al., 1999; Lin et al., 2000; Fouchier et al., 2004; Centers for Disease Control et al., 2012; Ostrowsky et al., 2012; Gao et al., 2013; Chen et al., 2014; Mok et al., 2015; Yang et al., 2015), have occasionally broken the species barrier and infected humans but have not been able to disseminate. The major reason underlying their limited human transmissibility was the weak affinity of these viruses for human-like receptors (Imai and Kawaoka, 2012). However, Human-type receptor recognition by AIVs is probably necessary but not sufficient for their transmission via respiratory droplet in a ferret model. An H5N1 virus that recognizes both receptors is not transmissible via respiratory droplets between ferrets (Maines et al., 2006). Therefore, other important phenotypes, such as HA stability and replicative ability linked to high polymerase activity, also have been shown to be needed for efficient airborne transmissibility in the ferret model (Imai and Kawaoka, 2012; Linster et al., 2014). Poultry function as “vessels” for the transmission of many AIV subtypes from poultry to humans. Since 2013, H7N9 and H5N6 subtypes of AIVs have been reported to spread to humans in China (Hu et al., 2014; Yang et al., 2015; Zhang et al., 2016). H7 subtypes of AIVs have circulated in poultry in China since 2002 (Li et al., 2006), and human infections with H7N9 subtype viruses were reported in China in 2013 (Gao et al., 2013). In recent years, H7N9 has shown an increasing trend in prevalence among AIVs in domestic poultry in China (Shi et al., 2017). Since 2000, N6 subtypes of AIVs have been found in poultry in China. N6 subtype influenza viruses circulated widely in duck populations in southern and eastern China in 2006 (Bi et al., 2016), and the first human infection with an N6 (H5N6) subtype virus was reported in 2014 (Yang et al., 2015; Zhang et al., 2016; He et al., 2018). Notably, H5N6 viruses have become a dominant subtype in poultry in southern China (Bi et al., 2016). These reports suggest that H7N9 and H5N6 subtypes of AIVs can to cross the species barrier and infect humans, emphasizing the need for continued surveillance of the circulation of these AIV subtypes in poultry. In China, H7N6 subtype influenza viruses were first isolated in 2007. The first isolate was found in Yunnan Province in 2007 (Lam et al., 2013). The second isolates, which might be reassortants of H7N9 and H5N6 viruses, were found in Jiangxi Province in 2014 (Lam et al., 2015). The third isolates were found in Zhejiang Province in 2016 (Wu et al., 2017). In this study, the zoonotic capability and pathogenicity of a reassortant H7N6 virus (HB95), which have acquired its genes from H7N9 and H5N6 viruses, is characterized and evaluated as a potential threat to human health. DJ...when will it mix further with H5N1, when will H7N6 show up outside (South) Africa ? Outside birds ? [url]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brucella-canis-dogs-humans-symptoms-b2414863.html[/url] or https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brucella-canis-dogs-humans-symptoms-b2414863.html CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 18h UK: Brucella canis infects three humans. The incurable canine disease spreads through contact with an infected animal’s fluids and, while usually mild in human cases, can result in meningitis and septicemia. DJ, what factor does decreased immunity after CoViD infection play ? [url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/eid-journal-stability-of-monkeypox.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/09/eid-journal-stability-of-monkeypox.html After simmering for decades in west and central Africa, 16 months ago Monkeypox (aka `Mpox') burst onto the international scene (see WHO Europe: Statement By WHO Regional Director On Monkeypox Outbreak Investigation) following reports of cases in 12 non-endemic countries. In July of 2022 the WHO Director Declared Monkeypox A Public Health Emergency Of International Concern (PHEIC). New case reports peaked in the fall of 2022, and continue today at a much reduced level. Although the WHO discontinued their PHEIC status for Mpox last May, concerns over the future spread, and evolution, of this virus remain. Many countries do not screen for, or publicly report cases, and the true incidence of the disease is hard to quantify. While many were surprised by this sudden epidemic, Monkeypox's spread out of Africa had been long predicted (see EID Journal: Reemergence of Human Monkeypox and Declining Population Immunity - Nigeria, 2017–2020). Like all viruses, Mpox continues to evolve and diversify, as discussed in the 2014 EID Journal article Genomic Variability of Monkeypox Virus among Humans, Democratic Republic of the Congo, where the authors cautioned: Small genetic changes could favor adaptation to a human host, and this potential is greatest for pathogens with moderate transmission rates (such as MPXV) (40). The ability to spread rapidly and efficiently from human to human could enhance spread by travelers to new regions. On a 2020 report, published by the Bulletin of the World Health Organization, researchers warned that our waning immunity to smallpox put society at greater risks of seeing Monkeypox epidemics (see WHO: Modelling Human-to-Human Transmission of Monkeypox). While the vast majority of Monkeypox cases have occurred among men who reported recent male-to-male sexual contact (MMSC), a small - but notable - number of cases reported no such activity. Yet another disease simply ignored "to save the economy"..... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-covid-19-infections,-hospitalizations-and-deaths-rising-in-russia-new-worrisome-sars-cov-2-sub-lineage-also-discovered-in-russia[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-covid-19-infections,-hospitalizations-and-deaths-rising-in-russia-new-worrisome-sars-cov-2-sub-lineage-also-discovered-in-russia DJ link to [url]https://github.com/cov-lineages/pango-designation/issues/2292[/url] or https://github.com/cov-lineages/pango-designation/issues/2292 XBB.1.9.1 with further mutations... CBS News @CBSNews · Sep 19 People across at least 10 states have now been infected by BA.2.86, a highly mutated variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 that authorities have been closely tracking. https://cbsn.ws/48hRQKO of course lots of other variants of CoViD widespread..."Politics" may decide to stop testing to hide for this reality... Raj Rajnarayanan @RajlabN · 4h Anti-Science is a Disease Guidelines for Patient Engagement: Focus on Healing, Not Blaming DJ...we need politics to work for the people...
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Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 23 2023 at 3:05am
	Good update from indie_SAGE [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdPodz1hT44[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdPodz1hT44 ; Join us for a discussion on the resilience of healthcare systems, with guests Prof John Drury, Prof Steve Thomas & Dr Anna Sagan, hosted by Prof Anthony Costello & Dr Steve Griffin, and Dr Kit Yates on trends and situation update. DJ, there are still some statistics/indicators on waitinglists for UK (public) healthcare. An important point Dr. Anna Sagan (WHO-Europe) made; if lots of HCW-ers break down it should be seen as an indication the healthcare system itself is not up to the pressure-HCW-ers fall back on their own reserves... DJ-We now face "poly-crises" and "perma-crises"...one crisis following another-also crises in different fields; economy, climate, wars... CoronaHeadsUp reposted JWeiland @JPWeiland · 11h BA.2.86 Pirola's global growth advantage is becoming more clear. I excluded South Africa's data (way too messy), and the UK care home cluster. Estimated weekly advantage is 74%, with a 50% CI of 56-96%. If this holds, it would suggest Pirola outcompetes the strongest FLips. and CoronaHeadsUp reposted Outbreak Updates @outbreakupdates · 13h Six weeks after admission, the patient was declared dead. Creutzfeldt-Jakob, Prion disease Doctors from Mount Sinai Queens’ said it’s “highly likely” COVID contributed to a New York City man developing fatal prion disease. (link [url]https://nypost.com/2023/09/22/nyc-mans-fatal-brain-disease-linked-to-covid-19-highly-likely/[/url] or https://nypost.com/2023/09/22/nyc-mans-fatal-brain-disease-linked-to-covid-19-highly-likely/ ) both as indicators; new variants may see the CoViD-pandemic restarted/worsening and CoViD could increase risks for (more) other infectious diseases. CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 11h Moscow: Covid-19 hospital to reopen. Hospital reopening 'due to a sharp increase in the incidence of coronavirus in Moscow.' Between Sept. 4 and Sept. 10, the number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in Moscow increased 67%, from 346 to 510. https://news.ru/moskva/kovidnyj-gospital-v-sokolnikah-vozobnovit-rabotu/ and CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 11h Russia: Covid cases up 48% in one week. Hospitalizations increased by 20.6% in the same period - September 11th to 17th 2023. A mask mandate has been reintroduced at Moscow's Government House DJ, TASS/TACC used to give daily numbers on Russian CoViD cases-they may restart providing data. CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 14h US: Type 2 diabetes rates in youth rose 62% after COVID pandemic began. Rates of new-onset type 2 diabetes climbed 62%, and type 1 diabetes increased 17%. DJ, no doubt there will be global numbers linking CoViD and diabetes... CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 14h South Africa: H7N6 'worst bird flu outbreak the country has seen' Poultry industry “ravaged” by the current outbreak. 'It’s been catastrophic. We’ve lost about 15% of national production.' link; [url]https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-09-21-sa-company-results-the-latest/[/url] or https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-09-21-sa-company-results-the-latest/ More info; [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9#Epidemiology[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9#Epidemiology and [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9#Human_to_human_transfer_of_virus[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9#Human_to_human_transfer_of_virus ; Kawaoka says, “H7N9 viruses combine several features of pandemic influenza viruses, that is their ability to bind to and replicate in human cells and the ability to transmit via respiratory droplets.” Further, because several instances of human-to-human infection are suspected, Kawaoka stated that “If H7N9 viruses acquire the ability to transmit efficiently from person to person, a worldwide outbreak is almost certain since humans lack protective immune responses to these types of viruses.”^[21] DJ, so is H7N9 a bigger-human- flu-risk than H5N1 ? Cat in the Hat reposted Bunny Peculiar @bunny_peculiar · 33m Brilliant but depressing thread. Repeat #Covid infections in kids an inevitable, serious time-bomb as long as air in schools remains unmonitored & unfiltered. Time for mass building of Corsi Rosenthal boxes for classrooms. But first we have to admit there’s even a problem DJ...there are lots of things we could & should do to limit risks...point however corrupt politics is putting profits above public health. "Genocide by pandemic" almost seems to be the strategy in a lot of countries-if "genocide via climate collapse" or pushing for nuclear war was not even a worse story... If governments keep acting this way there is NO !!! hope for this planet !
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 26 2023 at 3:14am
	Less time-overload of all kind of info...so I make a short selection; CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · Sep 25 Shi Zhengli: Serial passaging of wild-type virus in mice. SARSr-CoV virus "showed increased infectivity in mouse lungs and induced interstitial lung pneumonia in both young and aged mice after intranasal inoculation." link [url]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37607058/[/url] or https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37607058/ ; Our previous study demonstrated that the bat SARSr-CoV rRsSHC014S induces respiratory infection and lung damage in hACE2 transgenic mice but not wild-type mice. In this study, we generated a mouse-adapted strain of rRsSHC014S, which we named SMA1901, by serial passaging of wild-type virus in BALB/c mice. SMA1901 showed increased infectivity in mouse lungs and induced interstitial lung pneumonia in both young and aged mice after intranasal inoculation. Genome sequencing revealed mutations in not only the spike protein but the whole genome, which may be responsible for the enhanced pathogenicity of SMA1901 in wild-type BALB/c mice. SMA1901 induced age-related mortality similar to that observed in SARS and COVID-19. Drug testing using antibodies and antiviral molecules indicated that this mouse-adapted virus strain can be used to test prophylactic and therapeutic drug candidates against SARSr-CoVs. IMPORTANCE The genetic diversity of SARSr-CoVs in wildlife and their potential risk of cross-species infection highlights the importance of developing a powerful animal model to evaluate the antibodies and antiviral drugs. DJ...so anti-CoViD drugs may be tested on mice...but also mice may catch/spread CoViD...(and lots of indications mice, rats are spreading CoViD in lots of places...). CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 16h Molnupiravir linked to transmissible virus mutations. "Our work is important because it demonstrates that molnupiravir treatment can give rise to significantly mutated viruses which remain viable, and in some cases transmissible" link; [url]https://www.standard.co.uk/tech/science/university-of-cape-town-university-of-cambridge-francis-crick-institute-university-of-liverpool-nature-b1109324.html[/url] or https://www.standard.co.uk/tech/science/university-of-cape-town-university-of-cambridge-francis-crick-institute-university-of-liverpool-nature-b1109324.html DJ Yet another study indicating anti-virals may result in new variants of CoViD....in fact could WORSEN !!! the health crisis over time... (So the hard choice could be NOT to use anti-virals-wich could mean more people dying...or buying time wich could result in new variants...) CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 15h Disease X could kill 50 million. The next pandemic is already on the way, says Kate Bingham. link; [url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12551251/pandemic-disease-x-covid.html[/url] or https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12551251/pandemic-disease-x-covid.html CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 13h Canada: About 1 in 29 people are currently infected with Covid. Let's just repeat that: About 1 in 29 people are currently infected with Covid. and CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 13h Russia: Clinical trials begin for upgraded Sputnik V COVID vaccine. 100 people will take part in phases III-IV trials for the updated Sputnik V vaccine. Vaccination of children from 12 to 18 years old against coronavirus has been suspended in Russia. https://tass.com/world/1679237 DJ....the picture I get is CoViD -a.o.- is "out of control"....so "testing stopped"...It may be a matter of time before we end up in serious hospital crises... BA.2.86 keeps spreading and could be a major problem.... Cat in the Hat @_CatintheHat · 1h “The right to health is an internationally recognised human right. That’s the theory. In practice, and regrettably, the legal system has become an instrument to control and limit that human right to health.” Brilliant article. Thank you, @KamranAbbasi https://bmj.com/content/382/bmj.p2152 another story on Long CoViD; [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/long-covid-news-icahn-researchers-identify-blood-biomarkers-for-long-covid-while-showing-immune-and-hormone-disruptions-in-those-afflicted[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/long-covid-news-icahn-researchers-identify-blood-biomarkers-for-long-covid-while-showing-immune-and-hormone-disruptions-in-those-afflicted DJ...there must be hundreds of millions of people (and animals ?) dealing with long term health issues after catching Covid....
	We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Online Points: 95847	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 30 2023 at 4:57am
	CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 5h Ukraine: Covid cases almost double in one week. From September 4th to 10th 2023, 1,241 cases of coronavirus were recorded. From September 11th to 17th, there were 2,203 cases. link [url]https://globalhappenings.com/healthcare/420734.html[/url] or https://globalhappenings.com/healthcare/420734.html ; Now in Ukraine a gradual increase in the incidence of COVID-19 has already begun, because the coronavirus epidemic season begins earlier than the flu season. It is predicted that at the end of this epidemiological season, the Pirola strain will prevail in our country, which is now actively replacing Omicron in Europe and the USA. Deputy Minister of Health, Chief State Sanitary Doctor of Ukraine Igor Kuzin spoke about this. He noted that the new Pirola strain requires special supervision and monitoring because not all of its properties are known. “Essentially, this is a mutation around the Omicron variant, which has all the characteristics that were inherent in the basic Omicron strain. This means that it is transmitted just as quickly, does not cause severe disease in people who do not have an immunocompromised condition or concomitant non-infectious serious illnesses,” said the doctor. Sooner or later, this strain will end up on the territory of Ukraine. This in turn will lead to an increase in the incidence of coronavirus, which is why Pirola is likely to prevail in Ukraine at the end of the first quarter of 2024. Now, according to Kuzin, the incidence of COVID-19 is gradually increasing. Thus, from September 4 to 10, 1,241 cases of coronavirus were recorded, and from September 11 to 17 – already 2,203 cases. The doctor called on people with cancer and cardiovascular diseases, older citizens, as well as those who have not yet received vaccinations or have not completed the entire course of immunization, including two boosters, to get vaccinated against coronavirus. There are currently about 5 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine in Ukraine, which are mainly distributed among regional centers. These are the CoronaVac, Pfizer, Johnson and Johnson vaccines and the Pfizer vaccine for children. A new, mutated variant of the coronavirus, Pirola, is circulating in Europe and the United States and could cause a surge in COVID-19 cases. The new strain was discovered in August and is officially named BA.2.86. Read about its symptoms here. DJ, BA.2.86 is mutating quite fast...so to claim "only limited symptoms" may be "very optimistic".... CoronaHeadsUp @CoronaHeadsUp · 14h Romania: 14,861 Covid cases reported last week. That's nearly 3,600 more than the previous week. It's the fourth-largest wave of the pandemic so far, and still rising. Health Dept report: https://docdroid.net/i1fj0I9/buletin-de-presa-18-24092023-english-pdf… https://romania.europalibera.org/a/raport-covid-septembrie-2023/32609972.html… DJ, Romania is SW of Ukraine...A mix of war and pandemics, refugees, is bad.... [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/dramatic-footage-shows-nyc-hit-floodpocalypse-after-rainstorm[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/dramatic-footage-shows-nyc-hit-floodpocalypse-after-rainstorm Extreme weather and pandemics also tend to see worse perspectives.... Dr Ben King @benking01 · 19h I can understand why vulnerable people avoid attending healthcare settings. Have arrived for my Flu vaccination at the GP surgery and am sitting amongst many unmasked others. Some are coughing. I thought that lessons might be been learnt from the early peaks of this pandemic lots of spread, lots of hosts...also lots of denial.... [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-mysterious-pediatric-hepatitis-infections-were-actually-autoimmune-hepatitis-triggered-by-covid-19-due-to-t-cell-cross-reactivity[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-mysterious-pediatric-hepatitis-infections-were-actually-autoimmune-hepatitis-triggered-by-covid-19-due-to-t-cell-cross-reactivity lots of damage at lots of places.... But what is the point...people are "tired of CoViD/pandemics/climate "stories"....
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