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    Posted: December 26 2015 at 4:41pm
Most of you know I absolutely hate cold weather and here we await ice/snow storm #2 of the season. Due to arrive tomorrow with ice and sleet to hit first, later turning to snow. A 2-3 day event. Well, actually a 4 day event because it started today with heavy rains and winds.

I was in denial earlier today watching surfing on tv and burning my Yankee beach candle pretending the little thing in the corner of the tv screen saying "blizzard warning, winter storm warning, flash flood watch, tornado watch" didn't exist. Tornado watch? really it's the middle of winter?

So if, I'm not around we lost electricity, Wi-Fi or something. A lot of you see me on Facebook too, so you will know if you don't see me here or there. Ugh! Did I say I hate cold weather???????
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FluMom has this hit you yet? I think you are getting all snow?
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Hi Penham, we had a skiff of snow last night 2". It is really cold 22 in the day and 1 at night.    Not much snow in the Denver/foothills area but the mountains are really getting hit especially in the southern mountains. Central mountains are getting less but still lots of snow.

Hunker down have plenty of snacks on hand. Be sure to have deviled ham and stuff that does not need refrigeration in case the electric goes out. Just keep the fridge closed and the freezer closed!

You guys are not ready for stuff like this. I have had my fireplace insert going full blast as soon as I get up until we go to bed, house family room/kitchen/living room is at 68 degrees but our upstairs bedrooms must be 50. We have down comforters so we stay warm in bed no matter how cold.

Keep us up to date as to how you are doing if you have power. Good luck!
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Still have power, and Wi-Fi, limited Dish, no local channels are coming through. The wind is horrible. We have had solid ice coming down for about 5 hours now. We are expecting 1" of ice then 6" of snow. Some people in the town 5 miles north of us have already lost their electricity I am seeing on Facebook.
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Lost our electricity about an hour ago. Normally I keep my thermostat at 65 but this morning I bumped it up to 70. Glad I did cause the temp has dropped 6 degrees inside the house in an hour. We have a ventless gas heater in the main bathroom so I have that fired up the door open to the kitchen and all other areas blocked off. We will eventually have to move to that part of the house later in the day as it gets colder. Will try to check in later if the cell towers don't go down.
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We lose our internet connection in heavy snow as we have a satellite link that bounces off a near by mountain. I think one of the best ways to keep warm is to eat porridge. I know that sounds odd but porridge generates internal heat. If you feed it to chickens in warm weather they shed their feathers! That and layer up and wear a woolly hat. 
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Be safe, everyone, this is weird weather!  Tornados, ice storms, record warmth....

Some is due to ENSO (El Niño Surface Oscillation) events, but ongoing climate change is also a factor.  

We have new wildfires in California, tornadoes in Texas and the US South, major floods in Latin America and the UK....

I don't mind cold weather as I like to ice-fish, but Chicago is in the 40Fº range right now.  No snow for Christmas, we had drizzle.  I can do without the heavy snow of two years ago, thanks! 

Take care,  Chuck

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Not sure if you're around to read this, Penham (12 hours since you last logged on) but take care of yourself and check in as soon as you can so we know things are okay.
And I was complaining about having to put long pants on this morning... Ermm


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Climate change doing its work; 
This depression will bring 4c "heat"to the Arctic ! 

Unfortunately, this larger overall pattern marks a progression away from typical North Atlantic weather and toward a much more stormy environment. It’s an environment that is all too likely to be marked by features of warm air invasions moving up through the Barents and into the High Arctic during Winter. Of the Northern Hemisphere storm circulation tending to wrap around Greenland as the center of cold air shifts from the North Pole to the last bastion of dense glacial ice. And of a very unstable storm generating cold water and surface air temperature zone deepening and gaining an ever-stronger hold within the North Atlantic.

These are influences we see now. Ones that are impacting both the current powerful storm over Iceland and the unprecedented surge of warm air that is now preparing to invade the High Arctic. And though El Nino likely also played a part in the shifting of the storm generation zone toward Iceland, the far northward propagation of warm air into the Barents and High Arctic along with the extreme strength of the predicted storm are both likely new features of an overall altered pattern. What we witness here are both climates and weather features changing before our eyes in the form of what to us may seem a freak event — but what is actually part of a dangerous transition period away from the stable climates of the Holocene.


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19 hours now with no electricity. We just got the ability to get on the Internet and to make phone calls, we could only text since last night. Warm part of the house is 50 degrees I have a gas heater rest of house is 40 dgrees. Charged phones on laptop last night, charging in truck now.
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Penham, hope you keep warm! I keep my house at 55 and sometimes it gets that cold and it is cold! I would let water drip in all of your faucets so you don't get frozen pipes.   

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I miscalculated lol, its 32 hours without electricity. Tonight will be worse, supposed to get to 18. I did leave taps running last night and will tonight.
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Penham stay safe and dry, the US and UK, South America are now seeing flooding and extreme weather. 

A long(er) term weather forcast(attempt): https://www.wxrisk.com/the-wxrisk-com-snowstorm-page/
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We got our electricity back at 2:00am so we did 39 hours without. It was nice for it to come on in the middle of the night the low was 18 tonight. Today has been a cleanup day, trash out, laundry, dishes. We just got our WiFi back a few minutes ago, I went out and knocked the ice off the cable. We have DISH. So everything seems to be working ok. Got the fridge cleaned out from all the spoiled food, cooked a nice roast, things are good.
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WiFi is out again. But can get Internet on my phone. Expecting snow tonight.
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Severe weather-wise there are "trends"connected to the jetstream. In the UK more or less the same regions have been hit with "once in a hundred years floodings" three times this month. The same area's have seen this weather earlier at least twice this decade. Reality is that this "extreme"weather will get worse and something to expect almost every year. 

For the US the "Polar vortex" will return. Since the "cold-reservoir" has become Greenland, more than the Arctic, the "weather North Pole"has moved closer to the US. The jetstream has become very irregular, bringing both extreme warm or cold weather. The Arctic is almost without sea-ice due to global warming-cold has to come from somewere.

The present storm-systems on the North Atlantic are unique and extreme-so far. But this may become the "new normal". This stormsystem is bringing above freezing temperatures to Iceland, even eastern Greenland and the Arctic. This will damage the build-up of sea-ice, cause more melt and methane-release. 

"Severe weather" is escelating-with more and stronger storms, more extremes. The present "Super El Nino" is only contributing to this escalation. 

The melt of landice in Greenland, Northern regions (Canada, Siberia etc) and Antarctica means the underlying landmass is rising. Both the melt and rise of land mean that the sealevel is rising (faster than calculated by the IPCC etc.). This means that the pressures on the earthscrust is getting new shapes causing earthquakes. 
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http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2015/12/the_storm_that_caused_tornadoes_will_heat_the_north_pole.html

paul.beckwith.9 is on facebook, giving good (but dramatic) weatherinfo. 

More severe weather worldwide on its way. From the slate article: On Wednesday, the North Pole will be warmer than Western Texas, Southern California, and parts of the Sahara.
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It is pretty wild over this side of the pond too.  My friend was out at 3 this morning rescuing his horses - whose stables no longer exist (wind).  Most of the low-lying-land in the North of England is under water (rain) and 1/2 of Scotland is without power (wind).  The worst of the weather is in the West of Scotland but there are even flood warnings over this side.

Living on a hill, the flooding does not worry me and we had the foresight to plant trees - so landslides are unlikely, but the wind is so high it would be dangerous to go outside at the moment.  The wind rises with the tide and falls again with it.  It is only just after low tide now!  SCARY!!!
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Techno, there are two stormsystems moving hot air from Africa/Spain up north towards the Arctic the coming 120 hrs. http://www.nauticlink.com/nieuws/knmi/weerkaarten.html

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We are supposed to have yet another ice storm next weekend which is going to be worse than the one we just had. I guess I need to get prepared!
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hi Penham
I live in southern California I have never seen so many nites in a row of freezing weather. We save a bunch of plastic bottles up and set them outside to freeze and swap them as they defrost to help keep the food good for a little bit longer when the power goes out.
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Freak storm pushes North Pole 50 degrees above normal to melting point

By Angela Fritz 

December 30 at 7:12 PM 
(This story has been updated to include buoy measurements that confirm the North Pole temperature climbed above 32 degrees on Wednesday.)
 
A powerful winter cyclone — the same storm that led to two tornado outbreaks in the United States and disastrous river flooding — has driven the North Pole to the freezing point this week, 50 degrees above average for this time of year. 
From Tuesday evening to Wednesday morning, a mind-boggling pressure drop was recorded in Iceland: 54 millibars in just 18 hours. This triples the criteria for “bomb” cyclogenesis, which meteorologists use to describe a rapidly intensifying mid­ latitude storm. A “bomb” cyclone is defined as dropping one millibar per hour for 24 hours. 
NOAA’s Ocean Prediction Center said the storm’s minimum pressure dropped to 928 millibars around 1 a.m. Eastern time, which likely places it in the top five strongest storms on record in this region. [Washington, D.C., eclipses warmest December on record by an enormous margin] “According to the center’s records, the all­ time strongest storm in this area occurred on Dec. 15, 1986, and that had a minimum central pressure of 900 millibars,” Mashable’s Andrew Freedman reported on Tuesday. “The second strongest storm occurred in January 1993, with a pressure of 916 millibars.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/12/30/freak-storm-has-pushed-north-pole-to-freezing-point-50-degrees-above-normal/


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