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Colonel
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Something to keep in mind about the Ebola figures that we're seeing -
those are only those who go into the hospital system. I am vice
president of a non-profit corp. that supports missionaries in Sierra
Leone, so I am in fairly regular contact with folks who are deep in the
bush and jungle areas there (they are in a remote gold mining village). Here are a few tidbits that I've gotten:
1) When the natives are sick, they do NOT go to the hospitals. In their minds, the hospital is where people go to die, so if you don't want to die, you don't go to the hospital. Instead, they go to the witch doctor (yes, just like in the old Tarzan movies). 2) Deaths that occur out in the bush are not reported. They're just buried. 3) They received a warning from the U.S. Embassy about Ebola, but as they suspected, the embassy downplayed the whole issue and claimed there was nothing to worry about (much like the government does here). I try to keep them informed with sources other than the government when they're able to get to email or to a place where phone service is available. 4) In the villages, what we consider normal personal hygiene is simply non-existent. It is not a matter of them not knowing - there are major programs trying to get folks to not defecate in public areas, wash their hands, etc. - they simply refuse to do it. They consider that "whte man's culture" and won't do it. |
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Colonel - we don't hear from you nearly enough. Great post, and very informative. Thank you
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Colonel,Good post and good information. It is true. No one knows how big this really might be. Johnray1
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Colonel
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Thank you, jacksdad. To be quiet honest, I'd forgotten about this forum until I started searching for more info sources on Ebola. It's been quite a while since I've posted anything here. It's going to be one of my primary sources now. I'll try to keep it a two-way street and report what I learn from the folks who are over there now. One of them will be returning home later this summer and I'll be able to talk it over at length. The last one to head over there left before the outbreak, so we really didn't have an opportunity to talk about precautions. One of our rules though, is that everyone going over there has their own personal bug out bag designed for that specific situation. In fact, the europeans who go there to work at the gold mine (operated by a German company) have bug out bags in their rooms at all times. It's just S.O.P. over there, but that's a topic for another day.
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Colonel I could not agree more, both with what you said and what you implied.
When I was a child in 1940s and 50s New Zealand, my family arrived with nothing and spent all its money on a small patch of land. We had no water and so dug a well. We had no food, so we planted corn, kale and kept chickens. We had no home, so my father built a wooden bungalow. My father bartered for a pushbike. He cycled the six miles into town each day and got a job. I snared rabbits until the job paid for a rifle. By the time we left we were doing very well.
It appears from your posts that you and I have visited similar places in Africa. At first I was horrified by the manner in which women were treated by the encroaching Islamic creed which now appears to have taken over most of Africa and the equally barbaric behaviour of the witchdoctors as you call them and the animistic beliefs. The barbarism of the Arabic and white races during the slave trading days and the time of early Christian missionaries, who forced their own superstition upon the natives and cared more about giving them a bra and a bible than educating them in basic survival, did not help. However instead of learning from experience it appears that the African people in general (and that is a big generalisation) seem only interested in acquiring wealth, power and satisfying their baser instincts. In the 1970s you could find whole villages dead and abandoned from disease and internecine warfare. They are better at it now because an AK47 is a far more effective killing machine than a spear or machette.
Do not (and this applies to all readers) believe for one moment that the attitudes of most of the African people are shared by people of African descent that live in the western world, in particular the USA, Australia, New Zealand and Canada etc.. Most Afro-American and Afro-Europeans that I know that have visited Africa (to see their homelands) came back as horrified as you and I were. In fact one American USAF friend of mine in the late 1980s was so shocked that he sat and cried in my house when I asked him how he got on with his “brothers”. I was winding him up without realising how badly he had been affected by what he saw.
Finally, ebola was one of the viruses that was looked at for its military potential in the last century, along with mutated TB and two or three other possible candidates of African origin, both incapacitating and deadly.
Maybe we should just leave Africa alone. Let them rot, along with the Middle East. Then we would not have to worry so much about MERS and ebola rearing their ugly heads in these benighted realms. If this sounds P****d off and aggressive you are right. It is! I have had enough of watching my friends die, everywhere from 'Nam to Afghanistan, for people who do nothing with the gifts they are given and throw them back in your face. You cannot help anyone who will not try to help themselves. |
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Colonel
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WillobyBrat, you summarized the situation quite well, sir.
The natives were quite helpful and eager to have our missionaries there at first. Despite being told quite clearly that we were NOT there to give them things, but to spread The Gospel, they assumed that we really didn't mean it. After all, that's what ALL the white men do in Africa - they donate stuff. When it finally dawned on them that we really meant what we said, the attitude changed greatly. There were several attempts to do great harm, including trying to burn down the mission compound and contaminate the water supply. Things have slowly improved and are now to the point where the village chief spoke at the first graduation of the Bible school and said that his people had treated the missionaries wrongly at first, but they had now proven themselves. Nothing is ever stable there, but for now anyway, relations are getting better. All that was to say that you're right when you said, "Maybe we should just leave Africa alone." The Western habit of throwing money at Africa has done far more harm than good. While it makes the donors feel good, it fosters a sense of entitlement and dependency that, in the long run, will destroy a people. It is what is destroying America. Also, to clarify a point: while I am the VP of the non-profit that supports the missionaries, I have not been to Africa myself. I'm just relaying what I have learned personally from those who are there. |
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Colonel,I thought that I had read some where that you made a statement about "before the collapse" happens here. Many of us are peppers. Could tell me and the rest of us some idea about the "collapse" and what will cause it and a time line of some kind about when it might happen? Thank You,Johnray1
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I suspect that most folks who are at a site like this are preppers to some extent. I further suspect that we have chosen not to believe the government sources and the major media talking heads that are telling us that everything is fine - don't worry, everything will be fine. I look at what is going on, and I have my own thoughts about the future viability of not just the American economic and political system, but something far broader than that. I'd be glad to share my thoughts on the topic, but only after making it very clear that I have no special sources. I have access to pretty much the same information as anyone else with an internet connection. Perhaps I have a few sources that others may not have access to, but none of any real significance. Perhaps my customers and clients for the past 19 years (politicians, candidates, and others involved in political campaigns) have given me a different perspective than most folks would have, but that's just the understanding of how the political mind thinks and reacts. As for timing, I don't think anyone can predict that. Frankly, I'm surprised that we're doing as well as we are right now. That all depends on what finally breaks that begins an unpredictable chain of events. There is just no way to predict that. The world keeps getting more and more complex, and the cost in resources just to maintain that complexity keeps rising. At some point, it will collapse. Every complex civilization has, and there is absolutely no logical reason to think this one is any different. That is what I assume will happen, and that is what I plan accordingly for. Unlike many, or perhaps most, I assume that once the machine of civilization grinds to a halt, it will be a very long time before another machine of civilization starts up again. It won't be a restart of what we have now; it will have to be something completely new. I am not so much prepping for myself, but for my grandchildren (all under age 3 right now) and their children. Again, I'd be glad to pass along my thoughts (in an appropriate section of this forum), but as I said - I have no special knowledge. |
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Colonel, Thank You,Very Much.Johnray1
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I agree with you Colonel I am in my 60's and I am prepping for my son and any grandchildren I may have in the future.
I commend your organization spreading the word of the Lord. |
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My thoughts exactly. It's arrogant to think that we're any better at this than all the civilizations that have gone before. |
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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
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Colonel
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It's important to understand where a person's prep priorities are to understand what they think will happen. For some, they will point to their supply of food storage, and that is certainly important. For some, it will be their water system or perhaps their solar powered utilities, and that's important also. For some, it will be guns and ammo and other defensive tools, and that's very important also. For me, what I take pride in is the tools that future generations will need to rebuild. Our technololgy is now stored mainly in digital format, and that is very vulnerable. I have spent the past several years roaming through thrift stores, estate sales, and used book stores to amass a rather impressive library on a wide variety of topics. In addition, I have collected about a dozen slide rules and sets of drafting instruments and a drawing board and T-square. Those are the same tools that put man on the moon, designed the Boeing 747, and the vast majority of skyscrapers and bridged in the world. Without computers, those are the tools that will be needed to keep mankind from descending too far down the scale. The food storage, gardening, water, and defensive areas are vital, and without them, the books and slide rules and drafting instruments would be meaningless, but once the basics are taken care of, we need to remember what future generations will need in order to rebuild. Don't forget home schooling materials either - we need to be able to teach those future generations how to read and write and do math. |
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PRECICELY Colonel, ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON. YOU SAID IT ALL. Technophobe and WillobyBrat replied in sterio, so Technophobe (who does the typing) wrote our reply. Your's is a very lucky family to have you.
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Like the idea of slide rules. LOL, I would need directions for those! But you are correct we will need to rebuild.
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I was probably among the last of the students taught using the slide rule. When I first started college, everyone carried their slide rule in a case hanging from their belt or in a briefcase or pack. You could tell who the rich kids were because they would always sit next to an outlet so they could plug in their calculator. By the time I finished college, slide rules had almost disappeared and calculators were everywhere. It is amazing how fast that change was made. The slide rule instruction books are as much for me as they are for others. I had started carrying a small one with me - I was determined to relearn how to use it. We get so spoiled with calculators and computers...
I just got back from a trip to the local Goodwill store. I came back with some good textbooks - General Chemistry, Mathematical Palette, Statistics, Elementary Algebra, and several others. I already had some similar ones, but these look very nice. When I look ahead at what life might be like two generations following a collapse, I see a world where an entire generation would be largely illiterate and uneducated. I want to make sure that my decendants are among the few who are educated and have the knowledge and skills needed to make things happen. Now THAT is power! I really enjoy the feeling of knowing that my efforts today could make a huge difference in the lives of others generations from now - all for the price of some $1.99 books from a Goodwill store and a few sliderules from ebay. |
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We had this discussion before, Astrologic, and I disagreed with you then. I don't think there's ever been a time in mankind's history when we've been as enlightened and selfless as you'd like to think. Our natural instinct is to survive and to defend our families even if that means resorting to violence. I prep so I don't have to steal from someone else, but my preps also include the means to protect them from those who would leave my family without the means to survive. In a SHTF situation, violence against us would be met in kind. Sorry, but I see no value in rolling over and dying when the going gets tough. |
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Astrologic said -"I look at this world as a very large space ship. Each one of us are on specified ships
that are in various ways, connected to other vessels. Some are pirate ships, others are political party barges among other maritime vessels, then there is the home port." This is total B S! I don't know why anyone is responding to it! Astrologic, Aurora, whoever. If you play their game, they win! Stop responding and they will go away! I don't know about everyone else but I come here to find real news/information about infectious disease. I'm not looking for a bunch of B S about spaceships! Pleeeeeease stop incouraging this! |
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Another way to look at the idea of "I won't use violence" is this: If you allow those who initiate force against those wishing to live in peace to have their way, then you are rewarding their behavior. They grow in number and in power while those who wish to live in peace (but are unwilling to do the hard work required to maintain that peace) will shrink in number and in power. You have turned the world over to the barbarians. You have directly contributed to that which you claim to abhor.
There is no "walking away". There is no "escape". This is the real world - not a science fiction fantasy. In the real world, there are some really bad people, and there are also average people who are quite willing to do really bad things to other people when they get desperate. The idea of "give them what they want and they'll go away" is sheer nonsense. Even if it were true, what if what they want is my wife or my family? We have a responsibility to defend our own lives and the lives of our families and our loved ones. There is no walking away from that. If someone decides that they will not use violence against those who would use violence against them, then save your money when it comes to being prepared. Enjoy it now rather than buying food and other items for the brutal thugs who will not hesitate to use violence to take it from you. This is not a game or a book or a movie. |
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Spot on again JD and Colonel. I am quite a pacifist myself and believe in the "minimum necessary force" approach.
1, Can you buy them off and if you do, will they return again and again for more? 2, If no to the first part or yes to the second, can you defend against them non aggressively? 3, If no how much harm must you do to stop them and stop them permanently? Sadly, human beings being the agressive apes they are, often lethal force is needed in survival situations. If I have followed the above process (which can be calculated in an instant) I will sleep nights with a clear concience. The other part of the formula is: Never start it, always finish it. |
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That pretty well sums it up. I will not INITIATE the use of force against others. I will not ACCEPT the use of force against me or others who wish to live in peace. I will use any amount of force necessary to stop the threat of aggression by others against those who wish to live in peace - including the use of lethal force. |
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Astrologic, I know that you are not alone in the way you look at the topic of defense. There are those in my own extended family who, like you, refuse to accept the idea that the use of force - including lethal force - may be required of you. Before you make a decision that would lock you into that position, I strongly suggest that you take a good long look at the world as it really is. The following link is not some hypothetical scenario. It is not someone's fantasy. It is real. It is what is happening in the world today - the video was taken only days ago. You could say that "that's the middle east - that would never happen here." You could say that if you are determined to willfully ignore reality. You could not say that if you have any interest in understanding the nature of fallen man. I don't want to take this discussion in a religious direction, but The Bible makes it very clear that man is inherently wicked, is capable of the most brutal and ruthless and cruel behavior, and that has ALWAYS been the case throughout history. Take a few minutes and watch each of the short video clips here. You will want to turn away and not watch it. You will want to do anything you can to deny the reality of it. You do so at your own risk - and at the risk of any others who you care for. http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shocking-videos-the-post-collapse-world-will-be-violent-and-brutal-extremely-graphic-imagery_06132014 |
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Chilling! But, sadly, not exactly a surprise.
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Astrologic, am I reading your posts right - are you talking about suicide?
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Please don't do anything suicidal. I may not agree with your point of view but I would be devastated if you did something that meant we would never hear your view on things again. |
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We just lost a really bright young adult to suicide. He was a team mate of my son during those formative years. Super bright,super talented. Was one of the 'TOP TWENTY UNDER TWENTY' which is huge in Canada. Youngest person ever to travel to both the arctic and Antarctic. Member SOI(Students On Ice).
Sad beyond belief and none of us can understand how this happens. We are all struggling to find answers that don't exist. I can't stop crying. |
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Astro', sometimes we may dissagree with you. But that does not mean we don't value your opinion. Far from it, you have been a hard working contributor and we appreciate that. I do hope we are jumping to conclusions here but if not rethink please. Believe it or not, you are valued.
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To All who Want to Survive and to those who do not want to Survive.I have something to tell all of the people who want to survive when the SHTF and for those who do not want to survive. If you are among the people who do not to survive if you can not have all of the Amenities and nice way that we live now,you will die.-----If you do not prep any and if you want to kill yourself if the SHTF,do not worry,if you do not want to live,you will not. If you want to survive,you have to want survive so bad that you are willing to do anything and live in any conditions.I want to survive so much,that if I have to live under a rock cliff and eat Opossum and wear animal skins,I still want to survive.I f any of you are do not want to survive that much,do not worry,you will not. Even some of us who want to live that much ,will still die.But if you do not really want to survive in any conditions,you will die.The will to survive is more important than any stores and supplies that you may or may not have. If you have the will to live ,you probably will. Johnray1
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I don't think Astrologic is contemplating it now, but her posts (both now and in the past) have alluded to it as being an alternative to living in a post-SHTF world. As I've said before, I don't see the value in rolling over and giving up, especially when my survival will likely be the thing that keeps my family alive. Colonel is absolutely right when he points out that giving in to violence and intimidation means "...you have turned the world over to the barbarians. You have directly contributed to that which you claim to abhor."
I'm not prepping so the first person who wants my stuff gets to walk away unchallenged. Not on my watch, and not when my family's life may depend on what we've stockpiled. |
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Johnray I'm prepping now so my (and my family's) life post SHTF is easier and more pleasant. We are survival types already! |
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Yep - that quote says it all
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Technophobe, That is the same reason that I am prepping. Personally,I could leave my house naked and during a blizzard and before I would die,I would find shelter,food and water and do just fine. Johnray1
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FYI - Following is the Ebola Update from the U.S. Embassy in Sierra Leone, sent to U.S. citizens currently in that country:
U.S. Embassy Freetown, Sierra Leone Security Message for U.S. Citizens: Update on Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) June 13, 2014 This is an update to the notice of June 6, 2014, in which we alerted U.S. citizens to the outbreak of Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) in Sierra Leone. As of June 13, there are 43 confirmed Ebola cases with 16 fatalities. All of these cases can be traced back to contact with individuals in Kailahun District, near the Guinea border. The Government of Sierra Leone is implementing new surveillance, detection, reporting, and prevention measures as part of a more robust national strategy in addressing the outbreak of the EVD. A number of these measures only apply to Kailahun District, the epicenter of the EVD outbreak: 1. Passengers entering and leaving Kailahun District will be screened at health checkpoints. 2. All schools will be closed in Kailahun District. Alternate arrangements are being made for students taking the upcoming National Basic Education Examination (BECE). 3. Public gatherings will be prohibited. This includes gatherings at cinemas, cultural activities, and night clubs. Other measures will apply across the country: 1. Cross-border trade fairs (known locally as “Lumors”) will be temporarily closed. 2. Any person with symptoms of EVD must be reported to the appropriate community health professional. 3. All deaths must be reported and certified by an authorized health professional prior to burial. 4. All EVD related deaths must be buried at the place of occurrence under the supervision of health personnel. Contracting the virus can be avoided through practicing good preventative measures. The virus is easily killed by contact with soap, bleach, sunlight, or drying. You will not contract EVD if you are not in contact with the body fluids of someone who is ill with EVD or the corpse of someone who has died of EVD. Also avoid bat and primate (bush) meat as it can transmit EVD to humans. The U.S. Embassy is open for business as usual, including the consular section. For more information: · Continue to visit the U.S. Embassy Freetown website and Facebook page for regular updates. · Visit the World Health Organization website. · Visit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website. We strongly recommend that U.S. citizens traveling to or residing in Sierra Leone enroll in the Department of State’s Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP). STEP enrollment gives you the latest security updates, and makes it easier for the U.S. embassy or nearest U.S. consulate to contact you in an emergency. If you don’t have Internet access, enroll directly with the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate. Contact the U.S. embassy for up-to-date information on travel restrictions by visiting the U.S. Embassy Freetown website. You can also get global updates at the U.S. Department of State Bureau of Consular Affairs website, where you can find the current Worldwide Caution, Travel Warnings, Travel Alerts, and Country Specific Information. If you don't have internet access, you can get current information on safety and security by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States, or for callers from other countries, a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). Also follow us on Twitter and Facebook. The U.S. Embassy in Freetown is located at Leicester Square, Regent. If you have questions or concerns about safety or related issues, contact the consular section at the Embassy by sending an email to consularfreetown@state.gov or calling 232(76) 515-000 or 076-515-000. For after- hours emergencies, please call Tel: 232-(76) 515-000 or 076-515-000. |
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I forgot to mention that they were very appreciative of the information I was sending them. That is information that I got from this forum, so my "Thank You" goes to all of you who post information here. What you do is not just passing along interesting information. In this case, what you are doing is making a very real difference in the lives of those who are truly in danger of contracting this disease (among many others in that area).
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Following is a message from the missionaries to the church and supporters:
Tuesday June 17, 2014 To our praying friends: Undoubtedly many of you have heard news regarding the recent outbreak of the Ebola virus in West African countries. We have hesitated to generally request prayer for this because we weren’t directly effected by it and didn’t want to cause undue alarm. It was hoped that the virus would be quickly contained in Guinea, the country where the outbreak started. Unfortunately that is not the case and we now feel that the time has come to ask you, our prayer partners, to bring this matter before the Throne of Grace. After beginning in a remote area of southern Guinea the virus crossed the borders of Liberia and Sierra Leone. People in the region are fairly transient and the borders are porous facilitating the spread of the virus. Ebola has now reached Kenema, a large town about 4 hours to our south-east. You may recall from Field Reports that this town is on our evangelism circuit. This is also the town where our son John attends school. He is currently home and has given us the report of general panic as there have been several deaths from the Ebola virus. Medical personnel have confirmed the deaths to be from Ebola but it is not being reported on the radio or in other media as yet. Some consideration was given to the possible closing of schools in Kenema as there remains only four weeks to this academic year but as of Tuesday the decision has been made for the schools to remain open. John returns to Kenema on Wednesday. Fortunately, because he’s in SS-3 (equivalent to 12th grade) he will only have one week of exams and then will return to Baomahun. Stephen and Aimee along with one or two students had planned to travel Kono district in the extreme east of Sierra Leone. This was a reconnaissance trip to make necessary arrangements to add this heavily Muslim region to the evangelism circuit next dry season. It is also very close to the area where the Ebola virus crossed into Sierra Leone so it was decided it would be in the best interest of everyone involved to not make this trip. We want to stress that there’s no cause for alarm. Ebola can be easily contained through quick prudent actions. The main problem here is the horrendous personal hygiene and lack of community sanitation. Further complicating the issue is people’s reliance on traditional medicine (witch doctors, black magic etc.) Many are denying that there’s even an Ebola virus at all and therefore take no precautions. Others die in remote villages without going to a health post so the spread goes unreported. Two years ago Sierra Leone had a cholera epidemic. It also happened to be just a few months before the presidential election which didn’t look good for the incumbent who was up for re-election. The government imposed a news blackout regarding the epidemic and told hospitals, clinics, and health posts to STOP reporting the number of deaths. The government also impounded all available doxycyline, the preferred antibiotic used to treat cholera, and hoarded it in Freetown making it unavailable to small clinics such as the one in our town. Our medical officer was unable to adequately treat the sick and many died. Consequently we’re a bit suspicious as to why the Ebola deaths in Kenema are not being publicly reported. Bo is the next large town from Kenema. Please pray that it doesn’t reach Bo as it is a main hub for country-wide travel as well as travel to Liberia. But with the rains we won’t be traveling much and will be extra cautious with physical contact. Thank you for praying; it’s greatly appreciated. We’re well and still having fun. |
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jacksdad
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I'd say there was a big difference. I think missionaries continuing to work in an area that they know harbors a dangerous virus are to be commended for their dedication. I'm sure they're aware of the risk and are taking precautions.
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There is no way that I will be able to convince you otherwise, but I'll reply anyway. No, they do not think they are special and they know that God is not going to give them any special protection just because of what they are doing. God answers prayer when it suits His purposes, but that doesn't mean automatic protection. I personally knew two missionaries who were killed on the field. One was killed in China - suspected of being CIA rather than a missionary (just about as serious to the Chinese government though), and the other was killed in Sri Lanka after rescueing a native child who had fallen into a river. He then lost his balance and was swept over a waterfall as his wife and infant daughter watched. I work with another missionary who suffered a broken back after a water tower collapsed as he was working on it. The work of a missionary is something that most folks can't even imagine. Why do they do it? Why do they knowingly expse themselves to Ebola (not to mention the malaria and other diseases that they have already contracted while over there)? I guess you have to be a Believer to understand. When the God who created you and the entire Universe instructs you to spread The Gospel throughout the world, you do it. You can ignore it if you want, but the day will come when you will regret that decision. We all die. This is not a religious forum, so I won't take this any farther, but it is a serious mistake to say they are in denial because they remain there. Some people have a higher calling. Some people are willing to face danger in order to help others. To imply that they are stupid for remaining there ("How are those who needlessly stay, any different than the African people who don't believe Ebola is present, or who merely think that one gets infected if they are cursed?") is just unbelieveable to me. You may as well condemn a soldier for not running away at the first sound of gunfire. Some people have amazing courage and a deep love for others. It saddens me to know that you not only don't share that, but you mock those who do. I am humbled to have the privilege of just knowing and working with missionaries. The bravery that they exhibit just by being where they are and doing what they do - compared to those like you who would cower in fear at the mere threat of a disease somewhere in that area and mock those who don't cut and run like you - well, there just isn't any comparison. If I took the position you have taken, I would hang my head in shame. |
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Just to set the record straight - the worst poverty here in America is like royalty compared to the wealthiest natives over there. You just have no clue if you think this is "panning for future tithing" (Also for the record, tithing applies ONLY to the Old Testament Jews. It does not apply to New Testament Christians - a teaching that has made my pastor very unpopular with many other pastors.) These are not salaried people - this is a husband and wife, retired from the Coast Guard and using his own retirement to fund the missionary project. There is also a single young woman who is helping them. They intend to live the rest of their lives there. |
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