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Posted: March 22 2016 at 4:11am |
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3:14 a.m. PST http://variety.com/2016/biz/news/brussels-hit-by-subway-airport-terror-attacks-at-least-21-casualties-1201735942/ Medclinician |
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Brussels, the capital of Belgium and the European Union, has been hit by two coordinated blasts – one in its subway and another one at its airport — causing so far 21 deaths on Tuesday morning. It’s the deadliest attack perpetrated in Belgium, France’s neighboring country, since WWII.
The blasts at Zaventem airport – Belgium’s largest — killed 13 people and was caused by a suicide bombing, per the Belgian prosecutor. 35 people have been injured. The bomb attack in the subway took place roughly an hour later at the station Maelbeek in Brussels which is located 400 meters from the European Commission, now placed under maximum security. At last 10 people have been killed in the subway blast. Charles Michel, Belgium’s prime minister, called the attacks “blind, violent and coward.” “We’re at war. Europe has been repeatedly attacked and we must be determined to fight terrorism. The threat is even greater today than before the Nov.13 attacks at the Bataclan and Stade de France,” said Manuel Valls, France’s prime minister. Local media have noted the attacks on Belgian soil come four days after the arrest of Salah Abdeslam, one of the prime suspects in the Nov.13 Paris attack, in Brussels. Explosives were found in Abdeslam’s apartment, leading investigators to think that he was plotting another attack. Police have been conducting anti-terrorism raids in Belgium to track down Abdeslam’s suspected accomplices: Laachroui Najim, Mohamed Abrini and Khalid and Ibrahim el-Bakraoui, according to report. comment: We have come a long way from some terrorist with a bomb in his shoe. It is only a matter of time until we see something like this happen in the U.S. Medclinician |
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This is terrible - there is chaos in both areas - two attacks on on the subway and the second an hour later at the airport. Footage just hitting the independent networks...
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I had an instructor who was a Greek national with Canadian citizenship....he said that Europeans scoffed at US terrorist preparations, and acknowledged that there would be occasional terrorist attacks/bombings as a fact of life. They were willing to make this trade-off with the money spent in the US on homeland security, loss of privacy from surveillance, high US gun mortality rates etc.
Personally, I wouldn't put up with it. This has come a long way from the occasional bomb by Basque separatists, German gangs, Greek Communists etc. There is a new reality in Europe, and all I can see coming out of this is strife.
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This is the beginning of a new situation in the world. There will be more than occasional attacks, but more orchestrated disasters in major cities similar to what happened in Paris. As the refugee population streaming out of Syria which does included terrorists and combatants moves into Europe and Africa as well as the U.S. Perhaps the call to "bring them to justice" is a matter of the technology and intelligence network to do so. |
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One of the discussions in Europe is about internal border control. It is an old discussion but the refugee-crisis brought new life to it.
I live not that far from the German border. Burglars, robberies etc. is often border related. A crime in one country, than the criminals run to another (nearby) country. If you want to limit international crime you need some border control in my view. The refugee-crisis, terrorist attacks only underline the need for better border controls. I did not expect an international politician to say something else than what they are saying-I do not believe in them. IS and Al Qaeda are the outcome of stupidity by western foreign policy makers. Regime-change creating chaos and a bases for terrorists (in Somalia, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria) is one of the basic mistakes. Tony Blair, George Walker Bush etc. are the real terrorists !
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Without taking sides - although clearly these were terrible acts and perhaps should finally convince people, as I have been trying to do for 15 years of the real threat to America someday after it first erupted in Europe, and U.K. that in creating Isis to fight a proxy war - training and supplying them- this makes the Al Queda look like a warm up. This group is much more organized and possesses technology which now threatens all countries. Many of their warriors are not even Arabic, but European and this is much more than a Jihad - it is a type of warfare focused on one primary objective - creating terror and fear and willing to create and train martyrs to do so. For some leaders to stand up now and say "let's get serious" one might say - yes, let's get serious. This is not Ebola or a small group of people wandering with goats and living in tents not even that organized. The seeds have already been sown. As the Director of the CIA said http://hotair.com/archives/2016/02/15/cia-chief-isis-attack-attempts-on-us-inevitable/ The question here may be less will they and more have they. CIA Director John Brennan told CBS’ 60 Minutes that he views ISIS attempts to attack the US as “inevitable.” He follows that up by saying that successful attacks are not necessarily inevitable, but have they already taken place? Quoting: comment: Hopefully not. We cannot bring the primary bomber to justice. He is dead. He has become more than a bomber now. He is a martyr. There is no time to wait and hear what candidates for the presidency will do. It doesn't matter. They are not even elected. There is one man that must rise to the task and be our Commander and Chief and deal with this. No matter what has been promised - done - win or lose- President Barack Obama - this is your time to shine or to fail. History will remember you a great deal by what you do now. Medclinician - JB - CWN |
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If international governments seriously want to fight terrorism they would do something about bank-secrecy. IS needs money. But the international flow of money is-for a large part-secret. Several countries (Switzerland, Luxembourg) have become rich in doing dirty (financial) deals with dictators, terrorists etc.
Another point of discussion is what works to prevent terrorism. Checking travel-documents is not the real issue (the 9-11-2001 Saudi terrorists in the US (via Hamburg Germany) had legal documents). States should not start terrorist organizations or allow private persons to do so. (The Irish Republican Army IRA had a lot of financial support from the US, most from people with Irish background). In 1990 Osama-bin Laden in western eyes was a "freedom fighter" for his jihad against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Nelson Mandela (ANC) was a "terrorist". Ho Tji Min wanted to talk to Woodrow Wilson in 1919 about independence for Viet Nam. President Wilson did not want to talk to him. (During world war 2 the Vichy-French government in Viet Nam worked with Japan. Ho Tji Min was backed by the US to fight against Japan. The Viet Minh/Viet Cong was mostly a nationalistic movement that became "communist" only because after 1949 the Chinese Communists would support them. ) The Arab Spring "changes" has a background of people wanting more freedoms. But the protests are being hijacked by "intelligence agencies" for their agendas. Most wars (in Africa-Congo alone over 2 milion people killed) are "no news". Another "weapon against terror" is better education. From diamonds to some materials in mobile phones can be related to "criminal sources" but the world seems to accept that. |
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https://www.rt.com/uk/336752-brussels-attacks-schengen-galloway/
Free movement between European states should have been abandoned after the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) attacks in Paris last November, former MP George Galloway said in the wake of Tuesday’s bombings in Brussels. |
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https://www.rt.com/news/336985-brussels-terror-nuclear-plants/
Brussels suicide bombers Khalid and Ibrahim El Bakraoui were planning attacks on Belgian nuclear power stations, Dernier Heure newspaper has reported. TrendsBrussels terror attacks The newspaper exclusively reported that the arrest of Paris attacker Salah Abdeslam accelerated the plans of the terrorists. The brothers planted a hidden camera in front of the home of the director of the Belgian nuclear research program, the paper said. Evidence obtained by the authorities shows that the same terrorist cell was behind the Paris attacks in November that killed more than 130 people and this week’s Brussels bombings, which claimed the lives of 31 people and injured over 270, the paper wrote. As the chaos surrounding the coordinated suicide attacks on Belgium unfolded on Tuesday morning, we reported that energy utility Electrabel was evacuating two nuclear power plants, Doel, made up of four reactors, and Tihange, comprised of three. Electrabel would later dispute that account, drawing a distinction between a full evacuation and the utility’s generous offer to non-essential employees: “...people who are not strictly necessary on site can leave.” Around 60% of Belgium’s electricity comes from seven reactors in the country’s Tihange and Doel plants. Two of the reactors – Tihange 2 and Doel 3 - reopened in December after a repair process that lasted 21 months. But Doel 3 on the Dutch border had to be shut down again one week later. To defeat the “vicious enemy” that is Islamic State, US and Russia and the EU need to work together, share information, and stop the rampant political correctness, former head of US military intelligence General Michael Flynn told RT. “What I’ve heard over the past 24 hours is a bunch of excuses” from Europe following the fatal Brussels airport and metro attacks, Flynn said in an exclusive interview on Wednesday. “We have to stop apologizing for the political correctness that I see just running rampant.” Flynn, who led the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) between 2012 and 2014 and commanded US Special Forces in Afghanistan and Iraq before that, believes there is a direct link between migrant crisis and the Brussels and Paris terror attacks. There is very little coordination between EU nations right now, even as border controls “absolutely” have to be tightened, Flynn warned, reminding that Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) has said it wanted to infiltrate Europe and the US through the refugee stream. |
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Very disturbing. I really don't think people who have not been involved with nuclear weapon development or capabilities can really appreciate in terms of a melt-down - Europe is ruined for 50,000 years or more. Sorry this guy is a little less than pg with the f word in here - but this is a good video. It's up to you Albert. Everybody is always worried about proliferation of nuclear bombs. A nuclear power plant is a potential nuclear bomb. There should be as good a security here as you would have for a nuclear silo or hangar where live nuclear bombs are kept. Any less is irresponsible to the point where it is unacceptable for this and we not be survived if something far worse than a few bombs in a subway and airport go off. Medclinician pg warning ... |
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This guy should use better language and better prepare his presentations. A terrorist group inside a nuclear powerplant would have enough knowledge if they want to do serious harm.
Nuclear powerplants need water to cool/control the nuclear reaction. Without the water you could get a meltdown-but that could take some time. (I would have to look at the Fukushima-story but proberbly you are talking about days before all the water is gone.) There should be plans to regain control of the control-room if a (niclear)powerplant falls in the hand of terrorists. Blocking the inlet of cooling water-so they have to stop the reactor producing electricity is another danger. In Germany there have been bomb-attacks against powerlines from a nuclear plant (long time ago)-that would make production (in that plant )of electricity useless. There are two nuclear-centers-both with more (over 40 year old) reactors in Belgium. Tihange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tihange_Nuclear_Power_Station and Doel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doel_Nuclear_Power_Station When there is a serious problem at Doel Nuclear Power Plant it would shut down Antwerp Harbour https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Antwerp after Rotterdam (NL) the second largest European port. In the worst case a disaster in Tihange or Doel would effect millions of people in Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany (maybe-depends on the wind also the Ruhr-area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhr and maybe northern France. In that worst-case the economic damage would be in the billions/trillions of Euro's.
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