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    Posted: July 04 2006 at 1:55pm
Not bird flu, but this bears watching. TWO fired.

One (a SCUD type) hit the sea of Japan. N. Korea's been warned about doing this before, and agreed to a treaty in which they WOULDN'T shoot things in Japan's direction a few years ago. They just broke it.

News just said they're "not sure" if the second was the big missile. Also no word on where it hit.

North Korea vowed an "annihilating strike" yesterday against the US and there was a news report this morning indicating satellite reconnaissance showed fuel trucks & other vehicles leaving the launch pad on their big missile.

*Shrug* They could just be acting up to get our attention -- they have a long history of attention-getting behavior on the date of their enemy's celebrations. (The last missile shot over Japan was on a Japanese holiday.)

But it bears watching. As I've noted before, they don't have to hit us to do some real damage if they've got a nuke mounted on that big missile -- they just need to explode it at very high altitude over North America. Instant infrastructure failure.

Personally, I was expecting them to pull something messy around 8PM EST -- during 4th of July celebrations.
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Update: They fired the Taepedong 2. It blew up in flight.

Be interesting to see which way it was aimed ...

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/07/04/korea.missile/
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IT blew up?   Or, did we help it blow up?
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Wait. They updated the story, above, I think. They fired a Taepedong 2 which failed in flight, but it wasn't the one WE have been watching. So that means they had at least 2. They haven't fired the one we've been watching yet.

I think I'm going to go do something else and try to ignore this story. If they do something spectacularly stupid (more stupid than this!) I'll know soon enough.
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Good point.

Though given the state of their rocketry (the Taepedong 2 is supposed to be cobbled together out of parts of other rockets) -- blowing up at launch may not be outside the realm of possibility. That's probably the best possible scenario.

Be pretty funny in a sick sort of way if they tried to start a nuclear war with the US and all their missiles failed.

If we did shoot it down, we'll probably never know ... it's to the US' advantage, I'd think, for the world to think it went blooey on its own.

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North Korea launches missiles, US holds UN talks

TOKYO (Reuters) - North Korea launched up to four missiles on Wednesday, including a long-range Taepodong 2 that appeared to fail in flight, a U.S. official and media reports said.

A Pentagon official in Washington told Reuters two of the missiles launched by Stalinist and secretive North Korea appeared to have been small Scud-type models.

Experts say the Taepodong 2 is a multi-stage missile with a possible range of 3,500 km to 4,300 km, which could put parts of Alaska in range -- the cause of U.S. concerns.


A State Department official in Washington told Reuters a long-range missile, believed to be a Taepodong 2, failed 40 seconds after it was launched.

Japan's Kyodo news agency quoted the Japanese defense ministry as saying North Korea could have fired four missiles in all. (Complete article at following link)

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-07-04T214008Z_01_N04284348_RTRUKOC_0_US-KOREA-NORTH-MISSILE.xml&pageNumber=0&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage2
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Channel 7 news is talking about this right now. They announce three missiles were launched. Two mid-range scuds, one at 1430 hours; another scud a half hour later. The third missile was the one we've been watching for over a month, the Taepodong 2 only lasted 42 seconds of flight before it broke up in it's first stage. The Taepodong 2 is said to have a 6,000 miles range capable of reaching the United States. No link, just the evening news.

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I think the warhead of concentrated BS was too much for it.
 
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I heard there were 5 missle launched and they may have one more to go.

I guess North Korea wanted us to have some really big fireworks today.

Cheney is now in the Colorado Mts. hiding out.  (NORAD)  This feels almost surreal.  Here we are concerned about Bird Flu and then this nuclear stuff makes that seem like small potatoes compared to missiles.  Whewwieee what a day!!

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oh what a fourth of july, turned on and said six were fired, and then how avian flu has killed 53 out of  40. Yikessss, maybe some people say that. I hope so.Cry
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http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/07/04/korea-missile.html

North Korea test fires five missiles

Last Updated Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:32:45 EDT

North Korea test launched at least five missiles and maybe 10 on Tuesday, including a long-range intercontinental Taepodong-2 that has roused international controversy.

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"We do consider it provocative behaviour," U.S. national security adviser Stephen Hadley told reporters at a special briefing Tuesday evening. "You are going to see a lot of diplomatic activity here in the next 24-48 hours."

In South Korea, the Yonhap news agency cited government officials saying 10 missiles were launched.

U.S. President George W. Bush met top advisors Tuesday evening, while South Korea called an emergency cabinet meeting for Wednesday morning, a government official said.

The missiles were fired over four hours, and four short-range models all crashed into the Sea of Japan.

The Taepodong-2, which officials suspect could hit the United States, failed after 35 seconds.

The U.S. has been warning Pyongyang not to test the long-range missile.

The other missiles are believed to be mid-range Rodong missiles. They landed in the sea about 600 kilometres from the Japanese mainland, Japanese public broadcaster NHK said.

Tests said to violate international moratorium

Reports in June said satellite images showed booster rockets being moved to a launching pad, with 10 fuel tanks close by, indicating preparations for a launch of the intercontinental missile.

North Korea has denied it was preparing to launch such a missile, but Washington and Tokyo warned that such tests would be considered provocative and a violation of the 1999 international moratorium on long-range missile tests.

North Korea last fired a missile over northern Japan into the Pacific Ocean in 1998, one year before it agreed to a moratorium on any further tests.

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Hi,
 
Kuddo's to Rapture Ready who called this event two weeks ago.
 
My hat's off to you!
 
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Originally posted by kr105 kr105 wrote:

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Kuddo's to Rapture Ready who called this event two weeks ago.
 
My hat's off to you!
 
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Ditto! And to think of all the grief she caught for it, too. I wasn't even paying attention to NK before her post but I've been following it since. As of now, NK has fired 10, count 'em 10 missles. Sorry, no link TV news (CBS & CNN)
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We need to keep North Korea in Check. Any measure taken to do so is appropriate, including strategic bombing.  The leader of NK is nutz (Even more so than his father.) and can be expected to do most anything..


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Originally posted by Cygnet Cygnet wrote:

Good point.

Though given the state of their rocketry (the Taepedong 2 is supposed to be cobbled together out of parts of other rockets) -- blowing up at launch may not be outside the realm of possibility. That's probably the best possible scenario.

Be pretty funny in a sick sort of way if they tried to start a nuclear war with the US and all their missiles failed.

If we did shoot it down, we'll probably never know ... it's to the US' advantage, I'd think, for the world to think it went blooey on its own.

Originally posted by JoeNeubarth JoeNeubarth wrote:

IT blew up?   Or, did we help it blow up?

    


I called an old friend from my Navy days, and he assured me that their missle never would have gone any further.  (i.e. We assisted it in "falling apart.")
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Larry King Live  had a decent show on it tonight.
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So right Joe.

When I lived in South Korea the Koreans told of how Dictator Kim would watch cartoons for hours holding a 357 magnum,...... he's a paranoid idiot.
The scariest.

When the famine hit there about 8 years ago over a million children starved to death while the military was well fed. Over two million perished. Kim denied help from many world hunger organization.

Gotta have your priorites in order.

Insane, paranoid, cruel, inhumane......got the picture?

He also likes young teenage girls.....alot.
YUCK!


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I just finished watching Fox News and they said it was up to 10 missles now that had been fired, only one of them was a long range missle and it "blew itself up".
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 if China's got bird flu ,so does North korea. we know they are starving from the lack of food and now dying from bird flu. he wants a barganing chip, so he fired  his toys, to get food and medical supplys. let's see how much aid he gets,, roxy
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They fired another one as of 9:00 am eastern time.  I  think they will continue all day......since Pres.Bush didn't give much attention to it yesterday.  His lack of response probably ticked them off.
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