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Topic: Russia, Georgia, Ukraine, BLK Sea AreaPosted: August 16 2008 at 9:42am |
Gori cathedral (view from the Gori Fortress) WIKIPEDIA
What Cease Fire?
Russians have exploded the railway bridge in Kaspi?
The railway bridge has been exploded by Russians in Kaspi, Georgia today. As a result the railroad does nor function anymore and civilians are not able to move on the trritory from West to east and vice versa.
This also shows up on the timeline of the...
Ministry Of Foreign Affaires Of Georgia web site.
16 August 16:00 Russian military denies Turkish and Ukranian airplanes permission to enter Georgian airspace in order to take part in putting down the fires in the Borjomi district forests. The fires started as a result of dropping of fire setting engines in the area by Russian aviation. source
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 11:03am |
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Russian occupants blowed up railway bridge in Kaspi
Russian Military People Exploded Railway Bridge in Kaspi and Railway Connection between East and West Georgia Stopped: Georgian Foreign Ministry
16.08.08 16:03
Georgia, Tbilisi, 16 August /corr. Trend News N.Kirtskalia / Railway bridge was destroyed today in Kaspi region on the stage of Metekhi-Grakari. The Foreign Ministry of Georgia reported that Russian servicemen mined and exploded bridge. As a result explosion of bridge, railway connection between East and West Georgia stopped. Transportation of cargos and passengers is impossible because of this. Georgian Foreign Ministry expresses protest that Russian side continues to destroy the infrastructure of Georgia in spite of the signed ceasefire agreement. The correspondent can be contacted at: trend@trend.az |
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 11:53am |
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RUSSIA IS NOT BACKING OFF
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Media is not publishing this????
Russian Occupants in Kaspi in Georgia
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 12:08pm |
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Kaspi is very roughly halfway between Gori and Tbilisi
Railroad goes through south Kaspi.
See Map here-
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 12:30pm |
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If anyone finds this on US media please comment. thanks.
RUSSIAN OCCUPATION ARMY EXPLODED THE RAILWAY BRIDGE IN THE KASPI DISTRICT
** UPDATE ** Statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia Despite the international community???s efforts and the signing of documents on cessation of hostilities, the Russian Federation???s armed forces continue military actions against Georgia, destroying civilian infrastructure. On 16 August 2008 troops of the Russian occupation army mined and exploded the Metekhi-Grakali span of the railway bridge in the Kaspi district. This subversive-terrorist act resulted in the severing of railway links between the east and west of Georgia and connections with Georgia???s seaports. Moreover, the bridge used to provide a route for refugees from the Russian-occupied territories into safe places. Russia is pursuing deliberate policy aimed at undermining Georgia???s statehood, including through bringing about humanitarian catastrophe. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia calls on the international community and friend countries to take urgent measures to avert humanitarian catastrophe in Georgia and prevent destruction of Georgia???s statehood. Tbilisi, 16 August 2008 For further information, please contact: Nato Chikovani, Press Office, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia: +995.77.507.726 MAP Showing Railway http://upcoming.yahoo.com/place/CmrptcSYCJqUU6x5 |
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 1:06pm |
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 1:26pm |
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interesting article at
Israel backs Georgia in Caspian Oil Pipeline Battle with Russia
Gives background info..
some excerpts-
"...Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan...
...Aware of Moscow’s sensitivity on the oil question, Israel offered Russia a stake in the project but was rejected....
...Last year, the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel...." |
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 1:59pm |
Welcome Mary - you are posting some very interesting data. Have been so caught up in the Gulf and birds that haven't been monitoring Russia's military moves in Georgia and the southern province. There is a distinct split between Western media and what you can find on other crawlers which do not flow through Yahoo, Google, or Dogpile. While the battle is over oil, the battlefield is unlikely to be the Caspian sea. As you know there were 1,000 Israeli troops involved in the fighting, Medclinician |
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 2:06pm |
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Taking GEORGIA APART "peace" by "peace"....
RUSSIA MASSES NAvAL FORCE OPPOSITE GEORGIA'S AJARIA REGION
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GEORGIA
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find at bps.berkeley.edu/publications/2004_04-sani.pdf
Islam and Islamic Practices in Georgia EXCERPT-
ISLAM IN AJARIA
The region of Ajaria was Islamized quite late. Until the 1770s, most Ajarians were Christian.
Islamicization began after Ajaria was incorporated into the Ottoman Empire in the early seventeenth century and accelerated especially after the 1820s. When the Ottomans ceded Ajaria to Russia in 1878, some 6,000 Muslim Ajarians fled the region in search of refuge in Turkey.
Orthodox Christian missionaries also began actively proselytizing in the region in the late nineteenth century. The long-standing Christian presence in the region remains as such today.11
The Muslims of Ajaria are, virtually without exception, Sunnis. Sufism, however, is rare, despite its widespread presence in Turkey to the west and among other Muslims of Georgia. Moreover, in general Islamicization in Ajaria was rather superficial, as Islamic practices in the region intermingled with non-Islamic traditions often linked to Georgian Christianity.
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Videos of Georgia...lovely country.
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 2:29pm |
Rally in front of Russian Embassy in Minsk disbanded by policemen with machine guns (Photo, video)16:20Activists of the Young Front organization tried to hold the rally in support of Georgia in front of the Russian Embassy in Minsk. 15 activists of the organisation gathered near the Embassy with slogans: “Stop aggression”, “Russia-Georgia: war with peacekeeping intent?”, “One sixth part of land – is it not enough?” VIDEO
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 2:41pm |
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Hello Med :) liked your posts.
I'm thinking...
US will not launch an attack on Iran... not in this age of proxy war.
I imagine we are downplaying Georgia because Europe is very dependant on Russia energywise. No move is a good move there. France is ok due to nuky plants every 30 miles. Ukraine is very brave to stand with Georgia. Russia's game is to drive folks nuts until they do something off the wall in anger.
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 2:52pm |
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Finally - Our media reports it.
It was on the Georgian Gov website early this morning.... all of the fires
and the blown up railway was on youtube early this morning. Do we not love the internet?
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read story here...
TBILISI, Georgia (CNN) -- Georgia accused the Russian army of destroying a key railway bridge Saturday and starting massive fires in the scenic Borjomi Gorge, in violation of a new cease-fire agreement between the two countries. |
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 3:58pm |
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The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline
(sometimes abbreviated as BTC pipeline)
is a crude oil pipeline that covers 1,768 kilometres (1,099 mi) from the Azeri-Chirag-Guneshli oil field in the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean Sea. It connects Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan; Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia; and Ceyhan, a port on the south-eastern Mediterranean coast of Turkey, hence its name. It is the second longest oil pipeline in the world after the Druzhba pipeline. The first oil that was pumped from the Baku end of the pipeline on May 10,
Even before its completion, the BTC pipeline was affecting the world's oil politics. The South Caucasus, previously seen as Russia's backyard, is now a region of great strategic significance to other great powers. The U.S. and other Western nations have consequently become much more closely involved in the affairs of the three nations through which oil will flow. Some have criticized this degree of western involvement in the South Caucasus, arguing that it has led to an unhealthy dependence on undemocratic leaders.[citation needed] The countries themselves though have been trying to use the involvement as a counterbalance to Russian and Iranian economic and military dominance in the region.[15][22] It is seen similarly by Russian specialists claiming that the pipeline is aimed to weaken the Russian influence in the Caucasus. The Russian Parliament Foreign Affairs Committee chairman Konstantin Kosachev even stated that the United States and other Western countries are planning to settle their soldiers in Caucasus on the pretext of instability in regions where the pipeline passes through.[23] The project also constitutes an important leg of the East-West energy corridor, gaining Turkey greater geopolitical importance. The BTC pipeline also supports Georgia's independence from Russian influence. Former President Eduard Shevardnadze, one of the architects and initiators of the project, saw the construction of the pipeline through Georgian territory as a certain guarantee for the country's future economic and political security and stability. This view has been fully shared by his successor President Mikhail Saakashvili. "All strategic contracts in Georgia, especially the contract for the Caspian pipeline are a matter of survival for the Georgian state," he told reporters on 26 November 2003.[24] [edit] EconomicsAlthough some have touted the BTC pipeline as potentially removing the dependence of the US and other Western nations on oil from the Middle East, in reality it doesn't change global dependence on Middle Eastern oil as it supplies only 1% of global demand during its first stage.[citation needed] However, the pipeline diversifies the global oil supply and so ensures, to an extent, against a failure in supply elsewhere. Critics of the pipeline—particularly Russia—are skeptical about its economic prospects and see this as politically motivated.[25] Construction of the BTC pipeline has contributed significantly to the economies of the host countries. In the first half of 2007, a year after the completion and launch of BTC pipeline as the main export route for Azerbaijani oil, the real GDP growth of Azerbaijan hit a record of 35%.[26] Substantial transit fees accrue to Georgia and Turkey. For Georgia the transit fees are expected to produce an average of US$62.5 million per year.[22] Turkey is expected to receive approximately US$200 million in transit fees per year in the initial years of operation, with the possibility of increasing to US$290 million per year from year 17 to year 40. Turkey is also benefitting from an increase in economic activity in eastern Anatolia, including increased importance of the port of Ceyhan, which had experienced significant reductions of activities since the 1991 Gulf War.[27] The reduction of oil tanker traffic on the Bosphorus will contribute to greater security for Istanbul.[28] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan_Pipeline#Possible_transhipment_via_Israel
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 4:14pm |
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"HERE'S THE BRIEF ON RED POUPON..."
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 4:41pm |
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It Sorta is About Oil... also about protecting the world order.
and here we are on the other side...
The country up there in white is, Azerbaijan, a V. I Country.
Azerbaijan is a member of the United Nations; the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe; NATO's Partnership for Peace; Euro-Atlantic Partnership; World Health Organization; CFE Treaty member state; the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development; the Council of Europe; the Community of Democracies; the International Monetary Fund; and the World Bank. .................... BP Oil Co. Sangachal Terminal
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Wikipedia
The Sangachal Terminal is large industrial complex consisting of a Natural gas processing Plant and Oil production plant. It is located on the coast of the Caspian Sea 45 kilometres (28 mi) south of Baku, Azerbaijan.
The terminal is operated by a BP led consortium and is one of the largest oil and gas facilities in the world. Others involved in the terminal are partners from AIOC, Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, Shah Deniz and South Caucasus Pipeline projects. The terminal receives oil from the Azeri-Chirag-Guneshli field and natural gas from the Shah Deniz gas field. The oil is exported via the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline to Turkey's Mediterranean coast and via the Baku-Supsa Pipeline and the Baku-Novorossiysk Pipeline to Black Sea coast. Total production is expected to reach more than 800,000 barrels per day (127,000 m³/d) in 2007, and around one million barrels a day by 2009. |
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 4:50pm |
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 5:27pm |
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The above map (please slide the bar to see entire map) is from this source...
The Trans/Caspian gas pipeline would run under the Caspian Sea from Türkmenbaşy to the Sangachal Terminal, where it would connect with the existing pipeline to Erzurum in Turkey, which in turn would be connected to the Nabucco pipeline,
thus taking natural gas from Turkmenistan to Central Eaurope.
ALL IN FAVOR?
Caspian Sea Oil and Natural Gas Export Routes
a good read here- older but interesting background.
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Wikipedia
The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline (sometimes abbreviated as BTC pipeline)
is a crude oil pipeline that covers 1,768 kilometres (1,099 mi) from the Azeri-Chirag-Guneshli oil field in the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean Sea. It connects Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan; Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia; and Ceyhan, a port on the south-eastern Mediterranean coast of Turkey, hence its name. It is the second longest oil pipeline in the world after the Druzhba pipeline. The first oil that was pumped from the Baku end of the pipeline on May 10, 2005 reached Ceyhan on May 28, 2006.[1
Remember this on August 11th?
A fire on the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline in Turkey was extinguished on Monday, a senior source at BP, a major shareholder in the pipeline, told Reuters. The pipeline carrying Azeri crude, which passes through Georgia, was hit by an explosion on Turkish territory two days before conflict began over the South Ossetia region.
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 5:31pm |
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Excerpt-
11 August 2008
As the great powers seek energy security, Turkmenistan is at the center of a number of pipeline proposals. After years of isolation, Turkmenistan has been host to hundreds of official delegations from the world’s great powers, as Europe, Russia, China, and India pursue energy security with an eye toward the country's gas deposits. President Berdymukhamedov has forsaken at least some of his predecessor’s inward focus, in favor of a “multi-vector” natural resource strategy. The strategy relies on multiple hydrocarbon export routes, and the various gas importers each have a route in mind. Key pipeline proposals include the
Caspian coastal pipeline,
the Central Asia-China pipeline,
the TAPI and IPI pipelines,
and the Nabucco and Trans-Caspian pipelines.
From Wikipedia- Turkmenistan
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 6:08pm |
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Actually... We are very close to Russia
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The Bering land bridge was a land bridge roughly 1,000 miles (1,600 km) north to south at its greatest extent, which joined present-day Alaska and eastern Siberia at various times during the Pleistocene ice ages. It was not glaciated because snowfall was extremely light due to the southwesterly winds from the Pacific Ocean having lost their moisture over the fully glaciated Alaska Range. The grassland steppe including the land bridge and stretching for several hundred miles either side of it has been called Beringia.
It is believed that a small human population of at most a few thousand may have survived the last ice age in Beringia, isolated from its ancestor populations in Asia for at least 5,000 years, before expanding to populate the Americas sometime after 16,500 years ago, as the American glaciers blocking the way southward melted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait_Bridge
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Posted: August 19 2008 at 3:31pm |
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http://unomig.org/media/headlines/?id=11211&y=2008&m=8&d=19 19 August, 2008
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia made a statement on 18 August on recent developments in the country. "As it was indicated in the statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia dated 13 August 2008, representatives of Abkhazia''s separatist authorities profited from the escalated situation in the Tskhinvali region and, in violation of all agreements and treaties signed up to this day and with the assistance of Russian invaders, occupied Upper Abkhazia and conducted a mass cleansing of the region''s ethnic Georgian population.
"The Russian Federation''s troops have gone beyond the security zone. Currently there are approximately 9,000 Russian servicemen and their hardware and military equipment stationed in Abkhazia''s adjacent Samegrelo-Zemo Svaneti region and Poti. Divisions of the occupation army are looting state buildings and population, mining and exploding bridges, transport and economic infrastructure.
"Military and civilian vessels have been sunk in the Poti port, warehouses - robbed, docks - exploded. Exact amount of damage is difficult to calculate due to the presence of armed invaders in the region. "Separatists together with Russian servicemen shifted Abkhazia''s administrative border up to the Enguri River and occupied the villages of Ganmukhuri and Khurcha of the Zugdidi district.
"Russian ''peacekeepers'' have not even tried to prevent the movement of Abkhazian separatists thus violating their mandated obligations, which were affirmed already on 10 August 2008 by the UN Under-Secretary General for Peacekeeping Operations Edmond Mulet at an emergency session of the UN Security Council held in New York.
"It needs to be emphasized that such actions of the Abkhaz separatists and Russian ''peacekeepers'' represent a gross violation of the 1994 Moscow Agreement on Ceasefire and Separation of Forces and all resolutions on the existing situation in Abkhazia, Georgia adopted by the UN Security Council.
"Both the Russian Federation and representatives of Abkhazia''s separatist authorities call on the Georgian side for compliance with the agreement, which they have themselves ''trampled'' without the slightest hesitation. "It is absolutely obvious to the international community that the Russian Federation chose destruction of economy with the use of military force and ethnic cleansing as an instrument for implementing its foreign policy," the Foreign Ministry''s statement reads. (Geo MFA)
THESE NEWS ITEMS .............
Published on Tiraspol Times & Weekly Review (http://www.TiraspolTimes.com)
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