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You get some truth when it comes from a third party US Senator! Maybe we can free ourselves if we free ourselves from the Left/Right paradigm!
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That is the smartest thing I have seen on these political posts in quite some time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
free ourselves from the Left/Right paradigm
 
 
Most of the rest has and is just political theatre will very little truth with intentions of polarization. No one seems to get it though, to buzzzzy blaming everyone else instead of just looking in the mirror.
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If you want to understand our national debt, then watch this Tony Robbins video.  Taxing the wealthy will not solve our problems.  We have to CUT SPENDING on entitlements.
 
If you don't want to watch all 20 minutes worth, then forward to half way to get near where Tony talks about taxing the rich.
 
The problem is simply that we're stuck between a rock and a hard spot.  Cut spending now and we'll collapse now.  Spend and create more debt and we'll have a worse collapse later.  Take your pick.  Taxing the wealthy isn't going to fix this.  We have exponential growth in our national debt.  Nobody wants to face this problem, so a collapse is going to happen at some point.
 
The "tax the wealthy" is simply political rhetoric designed to get people to hate Republicans.  Out of control spending created this problem.
 
Here's another video sure to get your attention.  U.S. budget CAN'T be balanced.
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Well they cretainly have you conned
 
What a Laugher
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Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

Well they cretainly have you conned
 
What a Laugher


Please explain how taking money from wealthy people and giving it to government is going to fix the economy.

I'll wait.

The government is a net loss to the economy and wealth redistribution just plain out does not work.

Then I want you to explain how any part of Zer0's economic policy has even been a slight success.

Again I'll wait.

The bottom line is that taking money/raising taxes on the people who *MAKE* jobs and giving it to government isn't going to help the economy. Zer0's policies have been an economic catastrophe.
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Please explain how giving another 15% tax cut to millionares and billionares is going to fix the economy. The record and history shows just the opposite unless of course you believe in the falacies and fictional crap being spread by the radical right. Wake up TG this is not a you vs me him vs her them vers us.
 
Its about whats right and whats wrong (That Simple)
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Anf please dont give us the Same Old Trickle Me Down Some   Ecoenomic BS
 
IT was a scam the first time and its a scam now
 
 
A broken record that has failed and refuses to go way. Maybe this time it will just take down the whole Country, of course thats what some are rooting for anyway!
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You can take more money from the wealthy if you want, but the Democrats will only spend it.  That is the problem.  Perhaps we need to tax more & spend WAY less.  The economy is on a course to collapse due to all the unfunded liabilities of social security, Medicare, Part D, Welfare, Food Stamps, and supplemental income for all those illegal Mexicans who keep running across the border because we simply do not have Homeland Security.  If you want to talk about what's a joke, then it is Homeland Security.  We should rename it to Homeland INSECURITY!
 
So, Mahshadin, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN TO FIX THIS MESS? 
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Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

Please explain how giving another 15% tax cut to millionares and billionares is going to fix the economy. The record and history shows just the opposite unless of course you believe in the falacies and fictional crap being spread by the radical right. Wake up TG this is not a you vs me him vs her them vers us.
 
Its about whats right and whats wrong (That Simple)


GIVING!?!

You think that we're GIVING them an extra 15%?!? As in all wealth comes from the government? I'll let you in on a little secret: Absolutely no wealth comes from the government, Obama's corruption aside. (Solyndra etc)

If the government lets me keep another 10,500 a year, I'll be pretty happy.

Here's a crazy idea: How about we let people keep the money they've earned? You on the left keep going on about how we need to make the rich pay their fair share, but they're already paying 90% of the total tax bill while those under $50,000 don't pay a dime.

The bottom line is that giving money to government simply does not help the economy. This game of class warfare is old and tired. Especially so utilizing the government to force wealth equality.
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Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

Anf please dont give us the Same Old Trickle Me Down Some   Ecoenomic BS
 
IT was a scam the first time and its a scam now
 
 
A broken record that has failed and refuses to go way. Maybe this time it will just take down the whole Country, of course thats what some are rooting for anyway!


Bullsheit. The problem for you guys on the Left is that Reagan's policies *WORKED.* Taxes were cut drastically, the Left howled that blood would run in the streets, the economy soared, and tax revenue at the government actually went up.

Christ's sakes, even Clinton said that raising taxes at times like these is an astoundingly bad idea.

Government does not create jobs. Private businesses do. They can not afford to hire more people when the government takes a large cut.

Example: My family owns a large amount of rental property and employ six people nearly full time. My father's business clears right around $1,000,000 a year in revenue. Are they rich?

Problem is that taxes take their cut, we pay appx $250,000 in employee salaries/insurance, expenses, etc, etc, ad nauseum. Bottom line they make right around $150,000 a year. Are they rich? Technically they're millionaires, realistically they're doing pretty good, but raise their taxes fifteen percent and they're going to be either reducing pay, skimping on property upkeep, or outright firing some of the employees. Government kills jobs. Giving the government more money from small businesses is what will kill our economy.

Zer0's cataclysmic policies is what will surely take down the country. Nobody in history has done as much damage as Zer0.
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Yup your right Obama spent a lot of money (FOR WHAT) to clean up the Right Wing Mess, which of course you or any of the right will not accept responsability for. The Republican President, Senate, and house Spent and grew government more than the 4 previoous adminsistrations combined and didnt pay for any of it. All you all want to do is scream and yell about everyone else and never face the music of your own (What A Joke). You call me a flaming liberal which I am not, I simply will not sit back and allow this filth and lies to continue without some rational discussion of REALITY.  They have recieved their break in a VERY LARGE WAY, over 50% tax break over that period (ENOUGH IS ENOUGH). Even Reagan realized this during his administration and raised taxes 9 times when it was neccessary, but I am sure todays radical right will not acknowledge this or come up with some BS story to feed you. The top 1 percent has done well getting breaks from government over the past thirty years while the other 99% have all given up or paid more (ENOUGH IS ENOUGH). At this point this kind of replaying past policy on todays environment is just outright IRRESPONSIBLE. You all like to spen like drunken soldiers when your in office and then when it comes to pay for it you blame someone else or the poor for your own broken record policies that happened to woirk once and have failed over and over again since.     ITS TIME FOR A REALITY CHECK, Stop blaming everone else for your problems and take a good look in the mirror which is where you will find the snaswers if you brave enough to admit to mistakes and bad policy. Based on what I am hereing I doubt it though looks like were headed for another OFF the Cliff as the right has turened itself in to a dictorial establishment and refuses to discuss any other policy and acting like stubborn children who have their toy taken away from them.
 
This my way or the highway approach the republican party has embraced recently is what will bring down this country as they create more and more gridlock trying to shovel more and more of the countries wealth to the top 1%.
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Mahsahdin, Get a grip!  That right wing mess that you refer to was created when the democrats moved social security into the general fund & spent it year after year after year!
The next problem occurred when George Bush created Medicare part D (drug plan).  This is a humongous expenditure, which our government simply cannot afford.  Plus, we are now giving supplemental security income (SSI) to illegal aliens.  Also, for the record, Obama has outspent Bush's 8 years in only 3.5 years.  We simply cannot afford this.  Also, you cannot tell me in good conscience that you have never known anybody to milk the system for personal gain.  I'm referring to people who take their unemployment with no intention of looking for work.  I'm referring to people who spend beyond their means, lose their home, & then end up on welfare and food stamps.  We all know someone who abuses the system and when you multiply that by the entire country, then you have more waste.
 
All Obama has ever done is blame everyone but himself.  He hasn't and won't ever accept responsibility for anything!
 
Understand one thing, this problem is not fixable!  The problem is one of exponential growth of the national debt.  Blame all Republicans if you want, but BOTH parties are to blame.  I just happen to feel that the Democrats are slightly more to blame because of all their liberal social spending programs.   www.nationaldebtclock.org
 
If you looked at the two video's that I posted on page 2 of this thread, you would realize that taxing the rich at 100% of their entire income & confiscating their entire fortunes cannot possibly fix this mess.  Nobody can fix this mess.  So, why don't you look in the mirror and ask yourself how you can possibly blame a single party or president.
 
The problem is SOCIAL PROGRAMS that we cannot afford any longer.  Social programs are what the Democratic party has always been about!
 
If you want to talk about "dictatorial establishment", then look at your own Democratic party who pushed through Obamacare and wouldn't give anyone time to even read it.  They rammed that down Republican's throats.  Now you expect that Republican's will want to work with them on anything?  In fact, Obamacare wasn't even up for debate!!!  Tactics like this is why we are stuck with an unworkable government.  In using your words above, this was the Democratic party's "my way or the highway" on healthcare.  Don't blame anybody but you're own liberal, left-wing, Democratic party for this crap.
 
Once again, all you do is complain, but I haven't heard you make one statement about what you would do to fix our national debt problem except to "blame" Republican's for not taxing the rich enough.  Put up or shut up & explain what you would do to fix this if you were the president!!!
 
I don't believe we can spend our way out of this because we've got very little to show for all the trillions that were spent during the Obama years.  Obama went along with the Fed on this idea, but it hasn't worked.  I read a few years back that we're going down like an elevator with its cables cut & I believe he was right.
 
All I've been able to discern from your posts is tunnel vision on your left leaning ways while you refuse to look recognize that our problems were not created by a single party.  There's more than enough blame to go around.  In fact I'd like to do away with the two party system and have people simply vote their conscience rather than party lines for everything.
 
I hope you take the time to listen to the speech regarding the jobs outsourcing problem.
Page down once & watch the Economic Decline of America.
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Of course Elver
Its always someone else   
 
Time To Wake up and stop being a Political Zombie
 
This Zombielike following not only of the Right but of the Left as well that is the problem. The in ability to accept responsability and absolute refusal to do so is the big lie of our time. Alway blaming others for your demise rather than just looking in the mirror where it really exists.
 
As in most posts like this, I am simply bringing to light the obvious deception not a political stance or position which you and others have mis-interpreted as political ideology, which is just not the case. It is not one or the other, this is the great deception and those who support such idiology to the point of deception  are the deception and it is time for everyone to start understanding this!!!
 
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So, what is your grandiose solution?  I'm waiting............................................................
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Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

Yup your right Obama spent a lot of money (FOR WHAT) to clean up the Right Wing Mess, which of course you or any of the right will not accept responsability for. The Republican President, Senate, and house Spent and grew government more than the 4 previoous adminsistrations combined and didnt pay for any of it.
 
Hahahaha! Last I checked the Democrats had hegemonic control of both houses of congress two years into Bush's second term, and a rubber stamp president when things started getting really ugly, and things didn't start really going downhill until they had control. I actually distinctly recall Bush warning the American people that the housing mess was coming and you on the left shouted him down because he was "Stupid." "Bawwney Fwank" specifically made millions off the mess and was the guy chiefly calling Bush a liar for even insinuating that we could use our properties as ATM machines.
 
Looks to me like W was actually smarter than you gave him credit for.
 
That said, Bush was a Liberal just like Zer0, who seems to be blazing the same trail Bush himself did a few years ago. And Zer0's been the boss for some time now, blaming the Right for your side's failures just isn't going to hunt anymore. We tried your way, Europe lives your way, and they are abject failures.
 
But maybe we should just pass all Liberal legislation so we can see what's in it?
 
Zer0 didn't spend money trying to clean up schit. He spent all that money literally gang raping medicare and throwing it at his political buddies. I know where all this vitriol from you comes from, and it's not from disgust with the Republicans, it's with yourself for being hoodwinked into believing that Zer0'd be anything different.
 
Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

You call me a flaming liberal which I am not, I simply will not sit back and allow this filth and lies to continue without some rational discussion of REALITY.
 
I've said no such thing. Zer0 is a failure. Accept it. You voted for him just as I voted for W at the time. Both are failures. Abject failures. I've accepted that my vote was wasted, perhaps it is high time that you accept and admit that you voted in a failure and move on.
 
Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

They have recieved their break in a VERY LARGE WAY, over 50% tax break over that period (ENOUGH IS ENOUGH). Even Reagan realized this during his administration and raised taxes 9 times when it was neccessary, but I am sure todays radical right will not acknowledge this or come up with some BS story to feed you.
 
So we need to tax more? How about spending less?
 
Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

The top 1 percent has done well getting breaks from government over the past thirty years while the other 99% have all given up or paid more (ENOUGH IS ENOUGH).
 
Mahshadin the top one percent is paying ALL THE GOD DAMNED TAXES!!! The bottom 70% doesn't pay a damn thing. That is FACT. How damned much more do you want from those people? I'll say it again because I think you missed it: If you make less than $50,000 a year you're not paying anything in taxes.
 
Originally posted by Mahshadin Mahshadin wrote:

At this point this kind of replaying past policy on todays environment is just outright IRRESPONSIBLE. You all like to spen like drunken soldiers when your in office and then when it comes to pay for it you blame someone else or the poor for your own broken record policies that happened to woirk once and have failed over and over again since.
 
Holy jumping jehosaphat! Isn't that *EXACTLY* what the Left is doing right now????? The policies of the Left plain out don't work. PERIOD. So they're screaming that we need to keep doing what's killing us for it to work and blaming someone that hasn't been in office in four years when they had full, filibuster proof majorities in all legislative branches of government for four years.
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1.  Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term didn’t exist at that time ?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 & Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right ? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya , East Africa".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet
exist ? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya)

3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological
Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged.

How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it
until 1978 ?

http://http//www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx
(http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx)

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media ?

4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama’s book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I’m not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama’s “birth certificate” says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when he was born. That should have put his father’s date of birth approximately 1936—if my math holds (Honest! I did
that without a calculator!!!)

 

Now we need a non-revised history book—one that hasn’t been altered to satisfy the author’s goals—to verify that WW II
was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn’t have been more than 9. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes (still qualifies as a “liar”) ?

Why doesn't anybody care about these mistakes which point to the obvious fact that his birth certificate is a FAKE!

 



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Originally posted by Elver Elver wrote:

1.  Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term didn’t exist at that time ?

No it doesn't. It says "African." 


Originally posted by Elver Elver wrote:

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 & Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right ? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya , East Africa".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet
exist ? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya)


Very, *VERY* interesting.


Originally posted by Elver Elver wrote:


3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological
Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged.


How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it
until 1978 ?

http://http//www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx
(http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx)

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media ?


Now that *IS* interesting.


Originally posted by Elver Elver wrote:


4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama’s book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I’m not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama’s “birth certificate” says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when he was born. That should have put his father’s date of birth approximately 1936—if my math holds (Honest! I did
that without a calculator!!!)

 

Now we need a non-revised history book—one that hasn’t been altered to satisfy the author’s goals—to verify that WW II
was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn’t have been more than 9. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes (still qualifies as a “liar”) ?



Ordinarily I'd agree with you that something's up here, but he's been shown conclusively that he's an out and out liar and piece of crap. I'm 50/50 on whether or not he's lying on this one.


Strange when being a liar might help him, isn't it?


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I feel 100% positive that his birth certificate is a fake.  Nobody used the word African back in the sixties.  The term was "negro".
 
Why also does he use a dead guys social security number from Connecticut? 
 
I wonder constantly if his loyalties lie more with the Muslim countries than with the U.S.  He's got a lot of ties to Muslims as well as his own schooling in Indonesia. 
 
If in doubt, vote him out!
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I heard from a secret friend of a friend he has a nazi tatoo
 
 
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Oh wait just got independent confirmation that was the other guy
 
 
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