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I am new to the group.  However I am not new to the survival and rpeparedness secne.  Here is a really long list of some of my preps.  I hope it helps just one person.  Prehaps it will give you Ideas on organization and what to include  or not include. Feel free to ask questions and I am open to critisim.

I have not included Firearms, Storage foods/ goods (TP)

Here is a link to some of the pics

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55313666@N00/


Two Rubbermaid totes His/Hers:

Sleeping bag
Fleece Sleeping bag/liner
Neat sheet
Storm candle
Coleman wind up radio
Sterno 2 cans
NBC gear pack:
Gas mask
Two filters
NBC protective suit
Chem. Suit gloves and over boots
4 light sticks (orange, green, blue & white)
Space blanket
50 ft. Para-cord
Potassium Iodate tablets

PSP Pack (Personal Sanitation Pack):
Collapsible cup w/ lid
Foot warmer packet
Emergency poncho
Kimberly Clark pre-moistened bathing cloths 8 ct. pk.
ZEP antibacterial hand wipes
Coleman surface disinfectant
Curad Complete minor wound care
Health Guards toilet seat covers 1 pk. 10 ct.
J&J first aid to go packet
Gold Bond lotion 2 travel size bottles
Lava hand cleaner wipes
1 roll TP


Kitchen tote:

4 Emergency storm candles
2 Nalgene quart containers
Sterno stove
6 extra cans Sterno
2 GI mess kits
Coleman wind up flashlight
Small fillet knife
tube tent

4 chemical cold packs

Towels to go

Plastic cutlery

Roll-up cutting mat

Jansport sport water bottle

Collapsible cup w/ lid

Sewing kit in soap dish

Breakdown camping spit

Mylar water bladder

4 Ziploc bags w/ Mylar space & 4 oz. Emergency water

Vacuum sealed box of strike anywhere matches

 

2 Rubbermaid water bottles:
drink mix packet

4 oz. Emergency water

Cylume light stick

 

Fire kit:

Fat wood

Strike anywhere matches

 

Food bag:

Mountain House beef stroganoff w/ noodles

2 Mountain House Turkey tetrazzini

Freeze-dried ice cream

4 MRE’s w/ heaters

40 instant coffee packets (vacuum sealed)

3 chemical cold packs

 

 

Extended Kitchen tote:
Porkert Grain mill
Meat grinder
Coffee grinder
3 Boxes strikes anywhere matches vac sealed w/fire starter

 

 

BOVK (Bug out vehicle kit):

Craftsman 12volt 300PSI compressor
750K candle power spot light
Tow strap
2 road flares
Prestone 300watt dc-ac power inverter
2 tie down straps
Bungee net
2 Stanley T-handle screwdrivers (1 ratcheting)
Craftsman 3/8”-11/16” clench wrench
Craftsman ¼”-7/16” clench wrench
Craftsman adjustable wrench (1 large &1 small)
16 oz. Ball pien hammer
7 ½” breaker bar
3” & 6 ¼” extensions
¼-3/4” 7mm-19mm Gator grip socket
2 metal file (1 flat & 1 blade type)
2 ¼” drive ratchets
Small pair of Channel Lock pliers
¼” drive socket set
4 Shop rags
100MPH tape
Electrical Tape
Nylon wire ties 1 dozen
Haynes Shop manual
Gasoline Siphon
Light weight coveralls
Leather Work Gloves

Combustible Kit:
Alumaseal radiator sealant
Permatex
Fuel tank sealant
Fix a Flat

 

Tent/Pack Repair module:

nylon quick release buckles 3 each
nylon slider
nylon repair tape
Camp Dry 1 can
Tent Stakes asstd. Styles approx. 25
Utility knife
3’x1” nylon compression strap
black electrical tape
white duct tape
Duro denim & canvass repair
Seam Grip seam sealer
16 yd. 9/64”x48’ nylon cord
small Bic lighter

Assorted tent strings

Sunglass keeper

Wrenches for stoves


 

Medical Resupply Kit:


Blood loss control:

One Handed tourniquet
1.5” wide Micro pore paper tape 3 rolls
1” wide water proof tape 1 roll
½” wide water proof tape 2 rolls
4” Kling gauze roll 28 ea.
2” Kling gauze roll
J&J Butterfly closures 60 ea.
Spenco 2nd skin 3”x13”
3”x3” gauze pads vacuum-sealed 5 ea.
3”x4” Telfa pads vacuum-sealed 5ea.
1 ½”x3” Telfa pads vacuum-sealed 5ea.
4”x4” gauze sponges 3 pk. Vacuum-sealed 24 ea.

1 Ziploc bag:

8”x4” gauze sponge
4”x4” gauze sponge 12 each
3”x4” Telfa pads 5 each
3”x3” gauze sponge 6 each
1 ½”x 3” Telfa pads 6 each
Band-aids assorted 50 asstd.


Sanitation & wound cleaning:

0.9% Sodium Chloride irrigation solution 2- 250 ml.
Alcohol preps 100 ea.
6 oz. Band-aid Antiseptic wash
Bactine wipes 5 ea.
Coleman antiseptic wipes 15 ea.
2 oz. Coleman hand sanitizer
3 PDI germicidal clothes 11 ½ “x11 ¾ “
2 Biohazard waste bags
2 pks. Bio-zorb fluid stabilizer
4 oz. Coleman Disinfectant cleaner
Insect repellant wipes 6 ea.

Stabilization:

Finger splint Lg.
Finger splint Sm.
Rubber Elastic sport wrap
Instant cold pack 7 ea.
EZ Heat reusable chemical hand warmer 2 ea.
Triangular bandage 40”x40”x56”
Space Blanket
Disposable thermometers 2 ea.
SAM splint

Equipment:

Phlebotomy tourniquet
EMT shears
60-cc/ 2 oz. Syringe 2 ea.
1 cc tuberculin syringe 26g 3/8 2 ea.
CSR scissors sterile pkg.
3-0 Polyester Suture 18” 2 ea.
4-0 ne-9 Dexon “s” polyglycolic suture 27”
1 c-4 Dexon “s” Polyglycolic suture 36”
DAN oronasal resuscitation mask
3m Nexcare all purpose masks 5 ea.
GI Minor surgical kit

Misc. Equipment:

Emergency poncho
Cylume light sticks 1 red, 1green, 2-2” red
Crazy glue 4 single use tubes 2 pk.
Sharpie twin tip permanent marker
Memo pad
Pocket Doctor reference guide


Pharmaceutical / Dental:

Ammonia inhalants 10 ea.
1 oz. Ipecac syrup 2 btls.
Cortisone ointment 1% 15 g. 1 tube
Ciproxina 500 mg. 16 tblts.
Tylenol 3 (acetaminophen with codeine) 30 tblts.
Vicodin (Hydrocodn 750 mg.) 20 ea.
Percocet (Oxycod 325 mg.) 15 ea.

Dental:

Dentemp temporary dental cement 1 kit
Red Cross Toothache Medication 1/8 oz. 1 btl.

Rx/ OTC resupply kit:

Sudafed pk. 24/ 30 mg. 2 packs
Aleve 50ct./ 220 mg.
Ibuprofen 50ct./ 200 mg.
Diphenhydramine (sleep aid) 16ct./ 25 mg.
Benadryl 24 ct./ 25mg.
Bayer childrens chewable asprin 36 ct./ 81 mg.
Epinephrine inhalant (Primatine Mist) .5 oz.

Diagnostic:

 

Stethoscope

Blood pressure cuff

 

 
Get Home Bag (GHB):

 

Makarov IJ-70 .380 acp

3-7 rnd mags

Holster

Al Mar SERT knife

Tasco 10x25 binoculars

Can of 10% pepper spray

Cable ties

Knit Watch cap

Magnesium fire starter w/ Spyderco ladybug

Bag of assorted nuts/pop tarts or flavor of the day

Ziploc bag of 6 packets of instant coffee

2 pouches of drinking water/emergency blanket vacuum-sealed together

Barnes & noble bag Heavy duty plastic (looks innocent entire contents of GHB will fit inside can also be used for H2O)

 

Nite eyez pouch:

                 SOG Paratool

                 Mini Mag Light w/ red lens

                 Frog multi tool

 

Large first aid kit:

                 Vacuum-sealed 50 strike anywhere matches

                 Vacuum sealed 10 packets of instant coffee

Vacuum-sealed trioxane fuel tablets

2 pr. Of exam gloves in Ziploc bags

Small Swiss army knife w/ blue LED light

Small Bic lighter

Sharpie twin tip marker

 

ZIPLOC bag:

                 Advil

                 Benedryl

                 ½ inch waterproof tape

                 3” Kling gauze

                 Gauze pads

                 Alcohol preps

                 Assorted Band-aids

 

 

1st generation survival kit: (kept in BOV)

Compass pouch:

Eze-lab Diamond sharpener
spyderco dragon fly
storm whistle
magnesium fire starter
(the remaining items are vacuum sealed)
single edge razor blade
1 2" wide band-aid
1 off towelette
10 alcohol preps
small assortment of band aids
8 caffeine pills
11 yards of dental floss
4 curad ex. long bandages
4 butterfly closures
2 iodine swabs
1 hand sanitizer wipe
2 "magic" birthday candles (the kind that relight themselves)
2 safety pins


Fish kit (in cigar tube):

3 lead sinkers
4 hooks
mepps spinner
lines wrapped around tube ends secured with duct tape.


Film canister:

Space blanket
tweezers
large fish hook
P-38 (the famous lil can opener)
4 more safety pins
cable saw
iodine tablets 6 in a pill key fob

bandanna

 

Assorted Camping Gear:

 

Motortrend 10million candle power spot light
2 Self inflating sleeping pads
1 closed cell foam sleeping pad
1 folding camp cot
1 dining fly
2 pup tents
1 dome tent
2 folding chairs
2 folding stools
1 folding camp table
2 GI duffel bags (quick fill of pantry goods i.e. throw and go)
1 Coleman lantern
3 jerry cans of H2O 5 gallon each
8 gallon unleaded
1 gallon Coleman fuel

Coleman 2 burner propane stove

Coleman propane lantern

Coleman artic cat propane heater

Extra sleeping bag (3 season)

 

 

CERT pack:

EMT gloves 3 pair
Dust masks 3 each
Notebook
Pen
Sharpie markers 2 each
Folding knife
Emergency space blanket
12 hr yellow Cylume light stick 5 each
EMT shears
Safety goggles
Window hammer/seat belt cutter
Spark free gas/H2o shutoff tool
Basic AMA first aid kit
Book of CERT forms
CERT team vest
4’x6’ tarp
hard hat
leather work gloves
yellow lumber crayon
50’ nylon cord
flashlight
Coleman Disinfectant surface cleaner


Small tool kit:

Pliers (needle nose & blunt) 1 pr. Each
Screw drivers
3/8 drive socket set
yellow caution tape
CERT green Duct tape
Electrical tape
(white, blue, green, yellow, red, black) 1 roll each

 

BUG OUT BAG (2nd line gear):

Lowe Alpine Walkabout 50:

Tactical Solutions vest w/ camel back bladder
Drop leg holster
Frost cutlery mini dagger
BDU top and bottom (woodland camo)
OD tee shirt
Boonie hat (dessert tan)
Black knit ski mask
Rag wool finger less gloves/mitten (Thinsulate)
Seal waterproof socks
Cold Steel Bushman
CKRT neck knife
Garmin Etrex GPS
Brunton Classic compass
Black Diamond climbing harness
Princeton Tec Dual Headlamp
Rayovac 2 AA cell flashlight
10 AA Batteries
2 AAA Batteries
2 one quart Nalgene Bottles
MSR Mini Waterworks water filter
Iodine tablets
Trip wire
Waterproof match container(19 strike anywhere)
Emergency Candle
Trioxine Fuel Tabs
100 MPH tape
Otis cleaning kit
Dessert Camo Bandanna
Kershaw Carabiner knife
Mainstay Bar
Coffee (10 cups)
MRE
100 ft. rope

Repelling harness

 

 

Armour’s module:

 

Large Plano shooters case:

2 Bronze wire brushes

2 Brass wire brushes

2 Nylon brushes

1 Copper wire brush

Mini mag light fiber optic attachment

2 aaa bore light

Hoppes Gunsmith screwdriver

4 assorted firearms screwdrivers

2 punches

Choke gauge

2 Makarov cleaning/ disassembly tools

Colt disassembly tool

Hoppes Cleaning Kit

Outers Shotgun cleaning kit

Assorted files

Pick set

Marine Tuf-Cloth

CleanBore Pockit .380 cleaning kit

Outers 22 cal. Cleaning kit

2 extra pistol cleaning rods

.45 acp spiral brush

.45acp cleaning brush

38/357/9mm cleaning brush

22 cal. Brush

45 acp patches

22 cal. Patches

Solvent swabs

7.63x39 Bore snake

 

Knife/Flashlight Maintenance module:

 

Lansky’s knife sharpening system

Lansky’s Diamond System

Lansky’s clamp mount

Ez lap Diamond hone

Arkansas wet stone

Small oil stone

Princeton Tec flashlight

Towels-to-go paper towels

Schmichrome polish

Spyderco delica

Italian stiletto parts knife

Cold Blue gun blue

H&K speed loader

2 extra Mosin nagant stripper clips

SKS gas tube

2 20 rnd. Detachable SKS mags

Extra wooden AK stock

Mini Mag LED upgrade

Assorted extra holsters

Extra jar of powder solvent

Black Magic gun blue/black

Extra Mini Mag light parts

Red lenses for mag light

Assorted Spare flash light bulbs (standard, mini mag, SureFire e1)

Rifle grease

Allen wrenches assorted sizes

Rubber ear plugs

Hell fire trigger system 

Mosseberg 500 2 shot extension tube

Extra target arrow heads

Knife pocket clip

Assorted extra gun locks

Again I hope this helps.

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  Thank you so much,You have done a great job prepping.  How long did it take you to put this together.? Some of the stuff i haven't heard of.what are neat sheets?  Please PM me.
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Daaaaaaaaarn, WOW! man what a comprehensive list! DARN! WOW!

Impressive first post. Sort of last man standing stuff. 

Alot of this stuff on an initial buy would cost big bucks.

From this list can you advise what a family of three may need for   a good basic start out kit for a worst case scenereo (it may never come to that but more info is always better) list.  Some folks are really new to this and your wisdom would be appreciated and by me too! Oh, by the way welcome. -Kevin

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Originally posted by prprd1 prprd1 wrote:

I am new to the group.  However I am not new to the survival and rpeparedness secne.  Here is a really long list of some of my preps.  I hope it helps just one person.  Prehaps it will give you Ideas on organization and what to include  or not include. Feel free to ask questions and I am open to critisim.Again I hope this helps.

 

Awesome Preps.   How much food do you have and what types?  Also, what is your water supply/backup?  Thanks!

Is your plan to bug out to the wilderness and live off land?

Damn man...wish I lived wherever you are: that is the way to go.

 

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Bannor...Unfortunately I do not feel that I have enough food or H2O stored.  Other that the Mountain house freeze dried entrees pictured in the kitchen tote and the dated MRE’s  (I have really got to replaces them) Most of what I have is can goods of items we use every day, this makes rotation much easier.  I do try to keep some extra flour, sugar, and evaporated milk, powdered Gatorade, and powdered eggs on hand.  (Vacuum sealed and stored in 5gal buckets) on hand.  I also tend to be a date and price watcher at the local grocery market, if I find a commodity with a really long date or exceptional price I will pick up a few cans even if it is an item not normally used. Heck I do not normally use Freeze dried entrées and MRE’s (once in a while though) over all I have about 3-4 months supply.

 

H2O I keep 17 gallons of drinking water stored in jerry type cans and a couple of cases of bottled drinking water.  I have an MSR Waterworks water filter and live near a couple of small lakes (I figure if I treat the water with Iodine tablets and or bleach, Filter it then boil it we should be good). Water is heavy bulky and hard to transport if you need to bug out.

Bugging out…I do not have any plans to bug out unless absolutely necessary. I like my home and have nowhere to bug out to.  I am sure I could impose on some of my relatives that live in farm country as I would be able to at least offer them extra supplies, labor and knowledge (I would not be showing up on their doorstep empty handed, But I do not know if they are really prepared themselves)

Stormriderfla…Every ones idea of a worst-case scenario varies from H5n1, mutant zombies, terrorist or nuke attack, Mother Nature. Therefore a basic start out kit will vary as well.

For safety sake I am assuming that you reside in Florida and that your worst-case scenario is H5n1. Also, since you reside in FL you have basic preps for a hurricane. Which would mean you have the basic content of the CERT module listed in my original post.  For the H5n1 pandemic scenario, I recommend a lot of food/water stored ahead, quality dust type face masks (which I am currently lacking) with gas mask type masks they are too expensive to throw away and would need to be sterilized after every use before entering your safe zone. A wide array of over the counter cough cold and flu meds.  (Fever reducers, decongestants, expectorants ect.) I would also include some well-researched homeopathic remedies. 

If you are starting with zero supplies I would start with the Items listed in the CERT module and kitchen tote.  After that I would recommend a quality shotgun or 22. cal rifle

(Not the best for mutant zombies and the like but most versatile for procuring food and providing minimal security for you family) 

I have found a lot of my supplies I was not even aware I had until I got everything organized.  Look around your home.  Do you have those plastic utensils for the carry out the other night in the drawer? Don’t forget that sleeping bag and blue trap in the garage (yeah the tarp in with the paint rollers) Do you see the picture I am painting?  Like I said at the beginning I hope I can help at least just one person. If anyone has any questions or advise feel free to post it or pm me.

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Maybe I missed it but I didn't see rat and mouse poison on anyone's list yet.  Or fly killer.  We had a strike of our refuse collectors once.  The cities were piled with bags of rubbish and running with rats, buzzing with flies.  With BF there could even be bodies in the streets.

Also, I got some stuff called macroporous tape that sticks to the skin without (much) irritation.  I used to use it to hold band aid on.  Now I intend to use it if TSHTF to seal round the edges of masks.  Apparently their weakest link is their imperfect seal.  The air just gets in round the side and by passes the mask.

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  Hi Beth, Where can i find the Macroporus Tape?  I'm not familiar with it.  Please PM me thanks.
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prprd1~ thank you so much for posting this. Your list seems to cover all bases and very well at that.
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Beth…That is excellent advice. It is on my list!! See I have been doing this survival and preparedness thing a long time and am still learning!

 

Could you please pm me with a link to the macro porous tape?

 

Daydreamer… It does not cover all the bases.  Beth is making up some new one that I had not considered.  Dealing with rodents (must get mouse and rat traps, more .22 cal ammo and .22 cal shot shells) 

 

Maybe I should create another module for just waste removal/ pest control any Ideas?

 

Rattraps

Poison

Contractor grade refuse bags

Bleach

Rubber gloves

Leather gloves

Shovel

 

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             the best thing to keep mice and rats out of your house is 100% PURE PEPPERMENT OIL...put on cotton balls and place up, down and all around the house.     they hate the smell and will not go near it, i and my friends have done this and we have no mice or rats.........you have to repete this every 4 months or so..........much better than mouse traps  and poison........please do nor use PEPPERMINT oil for cooking that will not work, must be 100% PEPPERMENT OIL....good luck.....SUNSET
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Hi prprd and Missipi Mama!

Could I be facetious and suggest you add body bags!

Seriously though.  The macroporous tape I got in an ordinary chain pharmacy called Superdrug, that we have over here (UK).  I imagine you can get it anywhere.  It was next to the band aids and stuff like that.  Its not woven like band aid, or if it is its VERY fine weave.  I think it may be intended for fixing bandages to the skin.  I discovered it five years ago when I was giving up smoking and needed something to stick round the edges of my nicotine patches which used to come off in the pool etc. Their head office is in a town called Croydon near London but I'm afraid I don't know the address.  It is such an ordinary sstore though that I'm sure everything they sell can be got in the US.

I'm new to this site and also not very technical.  What does PM me mean?  Beth

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  Hi Beth and welcome to the site.  PM means send me a private message.  You will finde the word private messenger at the top of your computer screen to the right .  You will be able to send a message to me or any one you choose, and no one else will see it.  Are many people in your country planning for the bird flu?I think the tape is called by another name her in the US.  I went looking for it today by that name coudn't find it, but I did locate the tape you described.  Thanks a lot Beth.
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Sunset…I Figured the best thing would be a cat.  Not mouth wash for mice. Mmm minty fresh breath.     Ribbing aside, I will have to look into that I was unaware that scent of peppermint was unappealing to rats and mice.

 

Beth…Welcome if you are new then I flat out wet behind the ears because you have over twice as many posts as I do. AND yes body bags should be added to the list although I guess in a pinch the contractor grade refuse bags could be used as make shift body bags.

 

 

Thanks Beth, this got me thinking maybe Duct Tape/100 mph tape (the military version)

Even with body bags.  The contractor refuse bag may still come in to use and they will need to be sealed.
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prprd1....welcome aboard..this is a great list..I will have to copy it and go through and see what I have missed...thank you...
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You know, I think everyone's list is a bit different from the next person's list. I learn something new with every list I look at. I am very glad that you shared your list with us. And yes, even you learned something by sharing it with us.
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Whatever you do don't use duct tape to seal a mask on your face!!! We have something here called DUCK tape which is used for sealing all sorts of things including leaky pipes.  I read you could use it for removing warts so God knows what it would do to your skin. Dissolve it? Even if your US duct tape is not the same, for your face you need something meant for skin from a pharmacy.

One more prep I have (talking of pipes), is a pump type gadget that makes a vacuum briefly in a toilet, and shifts blockages.  It cost about £10 (15-20 dollars?).   I use one normally to save the expense of calling out the experts, so although its not cheap its worth it.  In an emergency there would be no experts and a blocked WC would be awful.  I also have caustic soda which you can put down the kitchen drain to unblock it. 

And does anyone know where to get a UV room air cleaner? And about how much they cost?

Missipi Mama.  I'm glad you found some skin friendly tape. People here bought tamiflu (the lucky ones who gcould find it)and water and batteries last October.  I've seen people with whole trolleys full of water.  But on the whole I don't think much of it is going on.  We don't have a culture influenced by 9/11 and  the anthrax scare and all those hurricanes.  However I've also heard that those who do prep keep quiet about it for security and because no one likes to appear scared.  Also our government is playing it down a lot.  Not like that Leavitt(?) guy you have going round all the states telling people to stash food.

Love to you all.  Beth

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Beth…No I don’t plan on using duct tape on my face.  I was suggesting that to seal up the contractor grade garbage bags (make-shift body bags).  You can use the duct tape on blisters. I have used it often when backpacking just apply it directly to the skin surface where you are getting the hot spot.  It will eventually wear off, but provides you with a nice friction free surface.

 

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Try this link for a UV air purifier.  I have one of the air filters without the UV and it works well. They are also very quiet. Though they are a little pricey.

 

As for keeping on the down low about your preps, the longer you prepare. The more people will start to catch on.  They may not say anything but they will start learning they can rely on you to borrow your pocketknife or the scissors in your purse. Hey Beth do you have any aspirin or a band-aid.  I certainly recommend trying to stay low key as much as possible.  Just the learning aspect will key others in to your mindset.  They will remember you took that First aid/CPR course, joined the local Community Emergency Response Team (CERT), or taught wilderness survival to your kids scout troop. When things get bad they will come to you, which may or may not be a good thing.     
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Prprd 1 Thanks for the help.  Yes I have band aid aspirin cocodamol ibuprufen and clove oil for toothache.

MOST IMPORTANT I think, I have bought some packets of electrolytes - the sort you take with you if you are going to India or Africa and risk serious dehydration from diaorreah (spelling?).

It can be a lifesaver if someone is sick.  Water needs to have some salts and trace minerals in it and a little glucose.

I got it in a chain pharmacy - iit was out on the counter for travellers.

My children know I'm prepping.  They saw the stuff when they came home at Christmas.  I expected a lot of teasing but they didn't give me much flack.  My youngest came round the other day and asked me how long I had preps for.  I said it depends how many of you turn up (I have five, one still at home, and 3 have partners).  I only hope they do turn up, and in time.  I couldn't bear to think of them living in big cities in tiny rooms with no preps.  No one else knows.  Beth

 

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