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Originally posted by lauramiii@hotmail.co lauramiii@hotmail.co wrote:

can anyone tell me about a site that gives a clear hand washing technique
I saw it on Oprah once ... wash thoroughly with soap & water (like described above would be good) and don't stop sudsing up and rubbing till you are finished singing 'Happy Birthday' or the 'ABC's! She filmed people at the sinks washing their hands, at her studio, and you wouldn't believe how many people just skimmed under the water with NO soap ... never mind the people who just didn't do it! I always watch in a public bathroom, now to kinda take my own poll...and I'm not seeing very good results either!! I'm always standing there still scrubbing when one person stops and another starts! And then I can tell you I DON'T touch the doors going out ... I use elbows and paper towels for that!-k
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Has simple pictures in a pdf document
 
www.health.gov.on.ca/english/ public/pub/pubhealth/pdf/handwash_tech.pdf
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But they are still not up after a week!!!Cry
 
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Hi, One thing that is truly useful is bleach. If you never used bleach in your kitchen before, try using it now to sanitize dishes and tools used in food preparation. Bleach's effectiveness is multiplied by the addition of vinegar which lowers the pH of the hypochlorite and makes more chlorine available. A 250 ml wash bottle with 10 mls bleach and 30 mls vinegar and brought to volume with tap water is effective.
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I always thought that ADIS can be transmitted via a mosquito bite.
Why not BF, but I think you need a special kind of mosquito the one that can transmit malaria .
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I'm sure if it could be transmitted through mosquitos we would have heard more about it by now............  wouldn't we??  I think I read somewhere.....  maybe one of Joes posts......  about insect vectors.  Someone who knows ease our minds!   PLEASE!!!
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Been lurking for a month or so.  It seems very obvious that clusters are ocurring.  I apologize if this reference has been posted and discussed.  It was under a menu heading of "references" on a CDC page.  Looks like last fall referring to cases from first half of '05.
 
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Sorry, I don't seem to know how to make the original comment come up in my reply. I, also having trouble controlling my font size!

 

Endman said:

I always thought that ADIS can be transmitted via a mosquito bite.
Why not BF, but I think you need a special kind of mosquito the one that can transmit malaria .

Endman and 7 Strong, You can go to this link Titled:

Why Mosquitoes Cannot Transmit AIDS

by Wayne J. Crans, Associate Research Professor in Entomology

http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~insects/aids.htm

Headings in the article include:

Mosquitoes Do Not Ingest Enough HIV Particles to Transmit AIDS by Contamination

Mosquitoes Are Not Flying Hypodermic Needles

Mosquitoes Digest the Virus that Causes AIDS

Perhaps the BF will behave similarly in mosquitoes.

 

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Thanks for the info Spirit.  I thought if it were possible we would have heard it before.
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Originally posted by 7Strong 7Strong wrote:

Thanks for the info Spirit.  I thought if it were possible we would have heard it before.

Given that West Nile virus is spread by the mosquito, I would not rule out H5N1 being transmitted eventually by the same vector.
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Had to bring me down huh Thomas?  kidding of course.....  It sure would be nice to to hear from someone who knows. 
 
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Dead Right you are about most people not washing their hands in the bathroom! Disgusting. That is why I carry the little alcohol bottles of sanitizer in my car. After shaking hands with these folks, I use it right away!  BF or no BF we should all keep up our handwashing!
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Right now there appears to be no evidence of Mosquito born H5N1 -
 
But watch out for the flies Thomas Angel!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4967188

Q: Can mosquitoes be a vector for the spread of avian flu virus? -- Carol Taylor, Lovington, New Mexico

A: Influenza is not normally a disease that is transmitted by a vector such as a mosquito. But because the virus is relatively environmentally stable, mechanical transmission by insects, such as flies, is a possibility. Since the virus can survive for long periods in the wild, flies might pick it up when they land on feces or infected birds, and then carry it to other animals. Mosquitoes typically transmit diseases, such as West Nile Virus, by ingesting blood from infected animals, then transmitting it to the next animal they feed on.

Based on your comment and respecting your views and observations, I looked up some more papers on the subject, but it's still not clear about transmission through the mosquitoes. "Not clear" in that they seem to say  there isn't transmission, but we have to constantly question.
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There have been no reports of AI being spread by mosquitos.  This is probably because the virus travels on airborne vectors and is primarily a pulmonary disease.  Coughing releases it from the deep lobes of the lungs in those who are infected, and it then has to make it down into the lower lung in recipients.  It's just not efficient yet.  This is NOT a blood-borne pathogen.  The idea of mosquitos carrying bird feces dust on theie feet is also a non-starter, because there is no vector to get it into your lower lungs.

For handwashing info, check out the video page in the forum.  There's a great one from Australia.


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Mosquitos are not a vector as far as we know.  As Carpenter correctly pointed out, AI is not a blood borne disease.  We do test blood for antibodies to it, though.

There is always the remote possibility of the virus mutating into a form that can be carried in the blood.  I would think the odds of being hit by a meteor are greater.
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Originally posted by carpenter carpenter wrote:


There have been no reports of AI being spread by mosquitos.  This
is probably because the virus travels on airborne vectors and is
primarily a pulmonary disease.  Coughing releases it from the deep
lobes of the lungs in those who are infected, and it then has to make
it down into the lower lung in recipients.  It's just not
efficient yet.  This is NOT a blood-borne pathogen.  The idea
of mosquitos carrying bird feces dust on theie feet is also a
non-starter, because there is no vector to get it into your lower lungs.

For handwashing info, check out the video page in the forum.  There's a great one from Australia.



    I think at the moment mosquitoes a further down the list of scientific priorities. Possibly the new British research facility on Zoonosis may one day yield some answers.

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