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slcmom
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 10:54am |
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Even a hand grinder is tedious for real baking. I think a mill stone would be okay for emergencies, but probably a real pain in the butt otherwise. Don't forget if you all of a sudden start feeding your family freshly ground wheat EVEN IF YOU CURRENTLY EAT WHOLE WHEAT PRODUCTS, you will need a huge supply of Immodium AD. Huge. It takes some getting used to, so start baking with it now.
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 11:19am |
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Proudest Monkey, Thanks for the grinder info - I just ordered a hand-grinder! Also, your recipe is much appreciated!
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 11:31am |
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My electric mill can grind the wheat flour much finer than my
hand-cranked grinder. I am thinking about buying a better quality hand-cranked
model from lehman's:
I bought a really good book back in 1999 called Making the Best of Basics: Family Preparedness Handbook written by James Talmage Stevens. After reading through Stevens book, I was convinced that wheat would be a good thing to store and use for emergencies. This is what Stevens said in his book, With such a wide range of uses, wheat is considered by many experts to be one of the most basic food storage items. sicmom, I agree with what you said about the Immodium Ad. Wheat needs to be gradually added to the diet. |
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 11:44am |
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Thanks slcmom,what kind of problems can introducing freshly ground wheat into a diet bring as i have 2 children who do not have any reactions to wholewheat bread is there some kind of reaction the body may take ,the Immodium AD how will this help and how long should we use it.Thanks.
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 12:02pm |
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I think what sicmom was trying to say is, if you introduce 100 % whole wheat into the diet, too much and too fast, it can cause gastrointestinal problems, resulting in diarrhea. Just intoduce it gradually into the diet, and you should not have any problems. |
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 12:31pm |
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Thanks PM |
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 12:38pm |
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Mountainwinds-
When my wife makes pancakes from fresh ground whole wheat, I take them with me to work and eat them like bread all day long. I am not a chef, but the pancakes really taste better if freshly ground from whole wheat. |
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 12:49pm |
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FYI, I have posted an idiot proof, whole wheat bread recipe on another thread. My teenage son can make it. If you've never made bread, it is really much, much easier than you might think. I also have a whole wheat roll recipe and a breadstick recipe if anyone wants them. |
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 12:58pm |
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Please post the breadstick and roll recipe.
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 1:12pm |
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Breadsticks 3 C. flour (freshly ground whole wheat)
2 Tb. sugar
1 1/2 tsp. salt
1 1/4 Tb. yeast dissolved in 1 1/2 C. warm water
Mix dry ingredients, then add wet. Let rise for 15-20 min. Roll dough onto greased cookie sheet then cut into strips. Pour 1/2 cube melted butter OR sprinkle with butter buds. Sprinkle with any or all of the following: garlic, salt, onion salt, parmesan cheese, parsley flakes, season all. Bake at 375 for 20 min.
(Takes about 40 minutes including baking time)
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 1:19pm |
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Whole wheat rolls
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3 1/2 C. flour (freshly ground whole wheat) (Grind enough wheat for about 7 1/2-8 cups flour total for this recipe. Set aside the remaining flour. ).
1/4 C. potato flour (if available)
1/4 C. powdered milk
2 1/2 Tb. Yeast
2 Tb. soy dough enhancer (if available)
Mix dry ingredients thoroughly to keep the powdered milk from forming lumps.
Then add:
3 C. warm water
1/2 C. canola oil
1/2 C. honey or sugar
Mix until blended, cover and allow to sponge for 10-15 minutes. Then add:
2 eggs + 1 egg white well beaten
1 Tb. salt.
Continue to add wheat flour until dough starts to pull away form the sides of the bowl (if using a Bosch or Kitchenaid) or until dough is sticky, but manageable. (About 3-4 Cups) Knead for about 5 minutes using a dough hook or with a little canola oil on counter and hands.
Form dinner rolls and place in well greased pans. I make pull apart rolls with these and using canola on my hands form golf ball sized rolls and place 20 in a 9 1/2 x 13 pan. For other roll shapes, you may need to add a little more flour. Let rise until double and fill the pan.
Bake at 350 for 15-20 min or until golden brown.
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 1:20pm |
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Thank you!
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 1:22pm |
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One other quick note, hard WHITE wheat makes baked goods that are much less dense (and I think taste better) than hard RED wheat. If your family is used to refined flours, there will be less of a taste shock if you buy the hard white wheat.
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 2:27pm |
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As this is a new area for me i have searched the web and the cheapest price for wheat i found in the UK 10ltr for £13.95 i don't now how much that is in USD,is this dear or a average price to pay,also i have read using sour dough as a yeast works to raise the bread ,also added fruit juice helps the bread rise is this a fable or will it work .
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 2:38pm |
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Ravendawn,
I LOVE sourdough bread! Hubby isn't crazy about it. You can make your own starter or purchase commercial sourdough starters and just have to tend them. Each time you bake, you use part of your starter to build a "sponge" and feed the remaining starter so it's ready for the next baking. I haven't done it in quite awhile so someone else can probably explain it better. You can make oodles of wonderful baked goods with sourdough starter. Think each starter will develop it's own unique flavor over time, regardless of whether you begin with commercial starter or not. |
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 3:30pm |
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Thanks oknut,i used to work in a commercial bakery and for 2 years i baked bread and it was quite easy apart from the mixer forgetting to add the yeast occasionally to the mix ,so starting from the ground up is a challenge i will enjoy
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 11:14am |
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MW,
Have you bought that wheat grinder yet? |
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 11:53am |
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Looking at different models. I might be interested in cooking on top of the stove, like pancakes or fried bread, but the oven uses to much propane. I have 1250 gallons worth of tanks, which gives 1000 gallons of propane, which should last three years if I conserve.
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 12:08pm |
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I bought the hand grinder that is pictured above, got it the other day.
I also bought wood (1 1/2 cords), just in case I run out of fuel, and I
have a kerosene burner as well. I have a link somewhere for outdoor
bread making, but I have to find it. I believe it is on the other
computer. I will post it when I get a chance. Someone may have already
posted it on this thread.
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 12:08pm |
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Just a thought, I'm planning to use a dutch oven and charcoal for any emergency baking. Depending on your oven size You can bake for an hour with about 40-50 pieces of charcoal. To bake bread, you can stick a cake pan in the bottom of the oven (with a few pennies in between to create a dead space). The loaves will be funky shaped, but who cares. You can also stack dutch ovens, so you can use the charcoal on top of one as the heat for the bottom of another. There is another thread on here somewhere with more dutch oven tips.
There is also the solar cooker option.
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