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    Posted: May 19 2006 at 7:39am
            I wanted to start this thread, because I just started to do Home Canning for the first time and had some questions.  Home canning is a great way to boost your inventory of meats, veggies & fruits.  Much better than store bought and greater variety when you watch sales and take advantage of seasonal fruits!  There is the initial cost of the Pressure/canner/cooker and then the jars and some other ingredients for pickling/jellies, if you do those.  All the jars, etc. are just getting into the stores now, so they should be readily available. 
            I thought we could share info on where to find products, books that are useful, suggestions and help each other out with questions that you can't find answers to.  There is a great place to call @ the University of Georgia (that was recommended to me by our USDA, when I called them and they didn't know the answer to my question) It's:
 
 the National Center for Home Food Preservation
Phone #706-542-3773
 
            I just canned my first (3) quarts of ground beef and will add beef cubes to that today!  This is going to be really helpful to our family, not only as a way to increase our BF food supply, but to have such easy access to meats that can be quickly used for meals when we return home from our many soccer weekends out of town, or summer vacation outings! -k
 
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ready mom,
 
I've been canning for 30 years,  both hot water bath and pressure. I started when my mother in law brought over a truckload (so it seemed) of canning jars for me to get started since she was convinced our large family would starve without them . She would come over now and then to check on my progress and left relieved that we would be okay.

I  haved canned 102 pints and quarts of pork cubes, beef cubes and chicken chunks using the raw pack method since it is less time-consuming  to prep the meat.  I agree that the taste is far superior to anything  else  from the store, although I will admit that the chicken  more resembles tuna for some reason. .....Good luck with your pressure canning  and enjoy
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Mary ... I'd be interested in knowing how the uncooked canned meats are.  I'm still nervous to try my cooked canned meats!  Something about doing it yourself makes me think I'm going to end up poisioning ourselves!  LOL And working out of a book isn't like having someone standing there saying 'yep, you did it right!'-k
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Readymom,

I know how you feel. When I first started using the pressure canner, I was sure I would mess something up. I would go back and re-read the instructions over and over again. Like everything else, after a while it is second  nature.....

Raw packed meats come out very good and tender.  The exception to this is the chicken which ends up  very much like canned tuna, both in texture and taste...Chicken does much better hot packed  with broth as a soup etc...   The other meats (beef and pork) are very good alone  as raw pack. The one thing that  I don't like too much is the the way the raw packed meats look after they have been processed, since there was no added liquid,  the meat sits above the liquid and it has a darker, dry look to it, but this in no way affects the product.

When it comes to safety, Pints at 10lbs. pressure for  75min.  Quarts  for 90 min.. you can't go wrong........BTW I have the All American canner which has both the weight and pressure dial  guage,  although my last canner had only the dial guage. ..   It is probably a good thing to be a bit nervous.  Keeps us on our toes....

Keep canning and have fun with it. I told my husband that I am not going to stop till I have used up all my mason jars....Last count several years ago there were 300 something. So I am about half way there..

God Bless                                          (don't know how to use the icons yet)
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ReadyMom,

Just another thought.  I have been putting away many, many jars of the canned butter.  I  had checked all over the net looking for warnings about it and someone on  the thread had mentioned a concern about botulism....
I  asked   DH who works in microbiology (since 1977)  if  it is something to worry about since I would NOT want to take any chances.  He gave me a long  rundown on all the conditions it would take to make it a problem and does not have  much of a concern.  He will eat it without a second thought.  I asked him to GO BACK,  look it up and check with his co-workers  plus the dept. head and make very, very sure.   I will  keep the butter and use it once I am sure it's safe. It really is soooooo very  good.    He said he would ask.


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ReadyMomand Mary, I just picked up a pressure canner and did my first two batches of meat, beef one weekend and chicken this past weekend. I think it made a believer out of my Mom, whom I kidnapped for instruction. I have never had the slightest interest in canning or the like before and I told her why I was learning (for the umpteenth time, she lives with my sister in the next town over and they were not prepping before) to can and preserve. My granmother lived through the 1918 flu and she took care of her sick and dying relations (age 17) until it was over. She always canned, had a garden and had animals for meat while Mom was growing up (they lived through the Great Depression) and was still canning when I got to know her. So I knew I could get Mom to show me how and the great thing that has come out of it is that Mom is now paying attention to BF news and tring to "put up " a little here and there. I attained knowledge I am going to need, and my goal is to now get my grown daughters trained. Maybe they will survive to train theirs. What a nice thought, instead of losing our culture, we are regaining it. Jo
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jo007athome,

Good for you and especially good  for your Mom, now that she is on board.  There has to be a  secure feeling having her near, and with helpful advice.   I agree that it seems to be a dying art..30 yrs. ago when I began canning, people, (family)  told me canning had gone out with the dark ages....          Well I guess the dark ages are back........(hope not)

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Mary, I call it the enlightened age, people are going back to their ancestors ways. Ways that were self sufficient and ecologically sound too. Maybe if enough people go back to basic living the rest will see how well it works and try it too. Sure hope so. I for one intend to make Grandma proud even if it took 45 years to learn this stuff. She was a survivor and that is my ultimate goal. thanks for the post. Jo
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Ready Mom-so glad your canning is going good. Had two different people give jars the past several weeks, we now have 13 extra cases of jars.Hamburger meat is on sale this week for $.99/lb, planning on putting up about 60 pounds.

Canned 20 quarts of peaches last week.
 
Have been using dehydrator, family eats banana chips as fast as they come out of the dehydrator. Looking forward to trying new fruits and veggies.

 

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ReadyMom,

Which pressurecooker/canner did you get, and where did you order it from? I saw the Presto on Amazon.com, is that the one you got?

I have never canned before, but am thinking about learning (when I hear arklatex putting up 60# of meat WOW!). This would be a great way to store meat without the freezer.


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I have canned about 60 pint jars of pork this week (already had around 90 pork/chicken from last month) - some in a veggie/pork broth and others in tomato puree with hot peppers. I don't can meat chunks in water because that's what they'll end up tasting like - you want to can them in a flavorful broth.
 
I stayed up late last night (til 4 am) and did 40 or so just yesterday, starting at around noon time. The pork comes out flavorful and tender. Normally, 2 large pork loins fill a canner of 16 pints but yesterday I used lots of tomato puree with garlic, oregano, basil and wine vinegar so it made more (I packed it more loosely).
 
The pork cubes in broth (broth made with salt pork, onions, bay leaves, garlic, celery and a can of tomato paste (sometimes add a little chicken broth, too - if you like, you can strain out veggies, but I don't; and I also don't can the salt pork, just leave it behind in the broth). After canning, I add kale or cabbage, pasta and meatballs to the leftover broth and serve it for that night's dinner. 
 
Pint jars are processed at 75 minutes 10 lbs, but I think this really ends up being much longer because it reaches 10 lbs pressure on the dial longer before the weight vents. The dial seems to consistently read about 14 lbs pressure when the weight is at 10 lbs but that may be because I'm at sea level. It takes about 40 minutes for pressure to drop to 0 and at least that long for pressure to come up (I have a cast iron burner). 
 
I don't start timing til the weight rocks the second time. I'm currently using a 22 quart All-American canner but in past lives I've used 16 and 22 quart Mirros (weight gauge - the big old heavy type canners). I've also had Prestos but don't much care for those.
 
One year I went overboard and started and grew 200 tomato plants from seed and ended up canning them.
Tip: Use a special tomato strainer like a Vittorio strainer if doing large quantities).
 
Over the years my family has eaten nearly every type of home-canned food - baked beans, corn, meat pasta sauce, bean soup and other dry beans like lentils and black beans, tomato puree, relish, jams, peaches in brandy and apple rings and piccallilis, beef stew, vegetable soup, canned chickens in broth, canned chicken breast tenders and my new favorite is pork loin. I never found anything "off" but always check and be careful and boil 10 minutes before tasting. I just opened 2 jars from 1982 that I had stored and they seemed fine - nice vacuum, looked/smelled good, but I only wanted the jars back :) There are still more old jars in there for me to deal with. 
 
Canning is a fun way to prep!
 
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Mirage,

I am really impressed.  Printed out your post to refer back to. So how about sharing some of those recip's you mentioned,. They really sound good..I am assuming that you do not raw pack anything, since as you mentioned, they don't taste all that good...I  am such a chicken (no pun intended) when it comes to getting away from the book.  I have looked on the net for some help, but haven't had much luck with anything other than stew.

I tried beans once and the jars cracked in the canner. I figure that the product was to dense and caused the breakage..I also never use anything other than real canning jars because I have heard of them breaking on occasion...

So if possible, could you share just a few of your favorites.......Just out of curiousity, about  how much have you bottled up????
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Could you let me know how the ground meat comes out. I have not had too good of luck with it.  I may have overpacked the jars, because I swear that the juice inside still looked pink.  I had 15 pints and didn't want to waste them , so I put them back and did another round.  I had used the raw-pak method with them and maybe I should pre cook the meat from now on......I want to be absolutly sure about these things......Garden is now in and will be canning vegtables and fruit  till I can't look at them anymore..........Good luck to all of you......
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Originally posted by Mary Mary wrote:

Mirage,

So how about sharing some of those recip's you mentioned,. They really sound good..I am assuming that you do not raw pack anything, since as you mentioned, they don't taste all that good...I  am such a chicken (no pun intended) when it comes to getting away from the book. 
 
It might sound as though I were getting away from the book, but I'm not really, if you investigate a little further. For example, in the newest Ball Blue Book, there is a paragraph on page 58 which talks about Combination Recipes. It says, "For recipes containing vegetables and meat, the length of processing time must be adequate for the vegetable or meat requiring the longest processing."  And so I stick with that. Also, they tell you to pack the meat in broth, and broth is made from bones, meats, and veggies - I do that also. If I pack things in tomato puree, that's a plus because it's a high acid ingredient, but I still adhere to the processing time for the ingredient that requires the longest processing in a pressure canner.
 
Quote I have looked on the net for some help, but haven't had much luck with anything other than stew.
 
There are some recipes at www.cooks.com, and an extensively detailed article about home canning chili at: http://www.cooks.com/rec/story/173/

Quote I tried beans once and the jars cracked in the canner. I figure that the product was to dense and caused the breakage..I also never use anything other than real canning jars because I have heard of them breaking on occasion....
 
You're right in not using anything but home canning jars - I usually only use Ball Jars. It must have been scary to have one break in the canner, but it was probably just a defective jar and I wouldn't worry much about it happening again.

Quote So if possible, could you share just a few of your favorites.......Just out of curiousity, about  how much have you bottled up????
Yes, I'll be happy to post a few recipes here. Can't say exactly how much I've canned in the past 2 months but it's overfilling one of those large metal roller carts from Sam's - and there's no room to put the latest batch so just bought another shelf to set up.
 
Last count was 130 jars meats and about 40 jams. But if you meant over time, I've been canning for over 30 years (started when I was just a kid!). :)
 
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Mirage,
Thanks a lot......will go to cooks,com..  Having read that you were up till 4 a.m. canning meat,  I guess I will have to stop feeling sorry for myself and buckle down.   Just a few recipes that include peppers, spices etc.  should help offset the plain raw packed stuff..  Thanks again
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Originally posted by grace grace wrote:

ReadyMom,

Which pressurecooker/canner did you get, and where did you order it from? I saw the Presto on Amazon.com, is that the one you got?

I have never canned before, but am thinking about learning (when I hear arklatex putting up 60# of meat WOW!). This would be a great way to store meat without the freezer.


I got it on line ... Amazon ... for $79.99 (no shipping).  They predicted a couple of weeks shipping 'cause I got the free shipping and I still got it in a few days! -k
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mary,  the jars will cracked if they are touching in the pot, don't over load the pot roxy P.S. still haven't tried to pressure can, brand new in the box,  a xmas present years ago, i told my sister you do it ,and i'll stand back and watch, she's older, she can go first, lol  roxy
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Mary, when doing raw pack hamburger it will still have a pinkish to it when done, so  don't worry. Anything under 10 lbs of pressure for 60-75 minutes  is done. I just did 12 1/2 pints of butter, thanks all for the recipes and encouagement. Finishing up with 5 quarts of chicken that was 20 lbs before processing. Sure is a comfort to look at those jars and know that they will be there when we need them. I am grateful to have started prepping when I did, otherwise I'd really be pulling my hair out now!Big smile
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?????- in one of my jars of beef cubes ... the water is just skimming the top of the meat and so it's not 100% covered ... is this a problem?? -k  (I love having this link to go to, while learning how to do this! And YES --- to know these jars are here for us is a blessing! THANK YOU!!! -k
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