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Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:58am |
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Zoe17, What part of the U.S. do you live in. I am in Northern New Jersey and have been looking for a group. At one time I was very interested in working with Walton Feed (www.waltonfeed.com) but they did not have trucks coming to deliver to anyone in this part of the country. Very disappointing for me. To be truthful I have been ordering on my own for so long that I gave up on the idea and I haven't really looked into it lately. I would be curious to know if there is any interest out there for those who are living in the NY,NJ.eastern PA area. Let's Talk.
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Posted: February 07 2006 at 12:37pm |
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I am in the Southeast,sorry.
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Posted: February 08 2006 at 10:23am |
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I have a butter dish,has been on my kitchen counter for years. Comes with a lid,dish for the stick of butter, and the bottom holds water. The idea behind it is, the water from below evaporates keeping the butter fresh.You could use this idea for your tins of butter once opened. Just check the water level every few days. More so in the summer. |
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Posted: February 08 2006 at 1:55pm |
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I'm sending orders out to NY, PA and NJ all the time. But I'd like to comment about the trucking and group buys.
Group buys require you to wait until everyone has ordered (usually) and paid their money. Then the orders go in and you pay whatever the group 'buy' price is. I have always been able to beat these prices, but don't do group buys very often simply because they are a hassle for all concerned. Group ordering for freight is similiar, you have to wait until enough people have ordered to either fill up a freight truck or enough orders accumulate to single drop off point (minimum 1,000 lbs) to qualify for freight shipment. In both cases, you're having to wait on enough people getting on board, which is fine under normal circumstances, but I don't think these are normal circumstances right now. In fact, I think we are all in dire trouble. The fastest way is to get people you know to order all at the same time and get a freight shipment going, combining the orders to a single destination point. A 1,000 lbs is really not a very big order and can easily be "wished for" by a single family (or even an individual), but I acknowledge that it isn't cheap or easy for people to just up and do. We are just not used to buying food like this in advance. I would like to caution people on what is happening now with food shipments - at the moment, freight shipments are five weeks out (orders going in now). This is only going to get worse and worse. Having survived the Y2K rush, I can tell you that we expect to exceed that demand by a thousand fold - which is really only another way of saying, "forget it". Once shipment times reach several months (and they will), those who have waited that long to try to stock up will be in a very very, risky position. This is ill advised in my opinion. UPS times are not too bad still, 2 - 3 weeks. We've made a huge amount of progress, but we're working 7 days a week right now (at least I am). We can't go any faster, and I fully expect these times to increase to what we saw pre-Y2K (10 months or more). So - you decide what your "pucker factor" is (how long you can wait) before you panic or start to "lose it". I'm already seeing this now with people wanting it yesterday but ordering tomorrow and getting it next week and still aren't happy. We really are doing the best we can. I've been warning those who will hear that the food pipeline is only so big and can only produce just so much. We "there" right now. Shipping times are now going to continue to increase as order volume goes up. Availability of goods is going to do the opposite as manufacturers get tapped out. This is not something limited to just the canneries. I've noticed a lack of certain supplies in particular in the major stores. I can't find a ham for example, to save my life. Well, yes I did, but I had to drive 30 miles to get it (so I bought more then one). Same with brown sugar and some other basic staples, Costco was sold out. I also have heard about the major distribution centers - they are running as fast as they can too. We're "there" right now and it will be interesting, scary, disturbing, you name it, to see what happens next. I'm not looking forward to the other shoe dropping. What is REALLY going to be scary is when sustained H2H makes the news, then all bets are off. I have heard from many various officials in unconfirmed reports. I don't think anyone is making a mistake by prepping. Buy what you eat, eat what you buy. Don't wait and don't fool around. It's a cheap insurance policy that you can cash in and probably will. |
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Posted: February 08 2006 at 3:09pm |
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Thanks Libby: I just placed an order from the internet grocer. Nice, got lots of stuff for a great price. Does anyone have any knowledge where to buy powered mailk and powered eggs that have a good shelf life? |
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Posted: February 08 2006 at 3:12pm |
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Order now to avoid back orders. If and when the media picks up the H2H, wherever it may be, the stores will be depleted quickly.
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 11:09am |
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Thank you Spoon. I found great stuff, including eggs and milk at www.survivalacres.com , at www.internetgrocer.com . Two great places, one has what the other one does not. SurvivalAcres is a great guy. He walked me through all my items and suggested items that were better and some for less money. He knows his stuff. Might I suggest the MRE's. Ready to go meals, very portable, ready to eat and easy to heat if you want too. One MRE a day has enough calories for one whole day. Imagine that. I'll be back to buy more soon. I just have to find a spot for the 300+ pounds of food I purchased yesterday. It was a great experience. Thanks again. |
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 11:20am |
i cannot order the stuff....i have tried but i am in canadier eeh....
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 12:01pm |
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I have also found a list of foods to buy to stock up on. The website is www.planforflu.com here is the list that is on there but I would encourage you to check out the site... Emergency Pantry: The List Baking mixes (Pie crust mix plus canned pie filling =cobbler) Hope this comes in handy! |
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Posted: February 17 2006 at 6:14pm |
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Hi everyone. This is going to sound like a really dumb question at first, but hopefully not. What is the shelf-life of canned goods? The reason I ask is because I went shopping today for supplies and the canned goods like canned vegetables, fruit, ravioli, etc. Said BEST BY OCT. 07 or BEST BY DECEMBER 08. I was thinking canned goods lasted indefinitely. I want to be certain before I fill my garage up with cans. What about pasta? What is the shelf life of spaghetti? You can buy a box of it for $0.50 at WalMart. I want to buy a boatload of it but, again, don't want to have to throw it out or find out that it is stale when it is too late to go back out and stock up again. Any thoughts? |
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 7:01pm |
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There were some good "egg substitues" mention for baking under the
topic of Powdered Milk. I would recommend reading some of those postings. Now, for my terrible experience with powdered whole eggs. I wanted some brand that could be used for occasional scrambled eggs. I wonder if there is a brand someone has tasted that was edible. I tried a sample from one company and it stayed in my mouth about 1 second. It was horrendously awful. Bleh!!!
Please, if you have actually eaten and mostly enjoyed some scrambled eggs made from whole powdered eggs, let me know where I might obtain some. I am not too picky because I have eaten fresh egg whites as scrambled eggs (with a little milk) for quite a while. Many thanks. Rocky
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 7:04pm |
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You can also freeze milk, until there's no power. Just make sure to shake it up well after thawing.
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 8:44pm |
RE pasta -- again, I have some leftover from y2k days and it is fine. Just store it carefully.... |
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 9:00am |
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Ok being a math dummie is killing me! Now can anyone help with food storage in a hot humid climate? may-october? Well I saw all the great sites for the food and even a site on storage But worse case is house temperature pushing 80 How could I store food safely? |
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 9:19am |
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Hi I'm from sunny fla 18 years worth. Store the syuff inside the house. When the power dies it gets hot so I vent the room. We have tile floors and my next option would be put stuff on the floor. As for humidity. I have no clue. In old old fl, people used the rafters area of the cabin because of the air flow.. These are just practical guesses...I could use the info too. |
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 2:19pm |
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YEA!!!! the freeze dried eggs arrived!!!! YEA!!! the freeze dried eggs arrived!!!! ......I need a vacation |
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 5:56pm |
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Tile floors also no rafters no breeze
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 6:26pm |
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Just my two cents...I think we have reached the stage in history, where
we need not have to worry too much about "shelf life" on canned foods,
I too stocked up big time for Y2K and except for the pinto beans (now
bean rocks) none of the food went to waste, and a lot of it is still in
storage ready for use. Since I have two mechanical grinders, even
the beans will be used for refrieds...
Please don't worry about shelf life, just buy what you normally eat, and lots of it in a big hurry. |
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 6:53pm |
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I agree valgard1. I am buying mostly canned goods due to my daughters food allergy to wheat. It is more expensive then the survival food that you can buy in bulk. I figure my family will be willing to eat canned food over freeze dried food. It is taking up a lot of space but it will get eaten at some point. The food that will expire first is the dehydrated stuff. I've got everything organized by expiration date anyway.
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 8:41pm |
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StormRider, where did you purchase your freeze dried eggs? Can they be used for baking?
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