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    Posted: June 08 2009 at 1:51am
Originally posted by Spoon Spoon wrote:

Hi MM,

Bannor and I just recently set up VHF transceivers (2-meter HAM) on both ends... it works.  We can communicate no matter what happens.  We can also here a lot of what's happening in our area.

If you're interested, I or Bannor can give more detailed instructions.  Each setup ran about $500 (radio, AC power supply, 100' cable, antenna and mount).

You should get a license.  Not that difficult.  We're in the process but wanted to set up the radios first to make sure we could communicate.  For now we just listen... soon we will be able transmit legally.



Tell Bannor we have been working on this for two years. This is a very sophisticated system and I have 5-6 programmers in Silicon Valley working with our "Defense company" on this. The layers of encryption as well as compress for which we have written highly advanced socket code working with programmers from Thailand goes far beyond a simple local broadcasting network. We must be able to communicate with U.K. and Europe.

I first posted concerning INet 3years ago. As with all good ideas, it has made the rounds. The challenge for those of use who have been programmers since 1978 in Silicon Valley, my true home- is in the new technology we are developing.

This information is being released several weeks prior to the manual. There is no way that what we are doing can be developed this fast and compete with our system.

Although submitted to .gov and scheduled for demonstration when we can to DHS - also offered to set up a "write you own project' there are many political considerations.

There are many island groups working on Prep- however even though they interface across states, interfacing with the infrastructure is important. That we are doing currently in an unofficial capacity.

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I read with interest your comments about getting an FCC license and operating modified CBs in the 10 meter band.   I am an extra class amatuer (ham) radio operator (KF0GV).   First, do not buy a CB that has been modified to operate on the 10 meter band.   10 meters is not only considered a ham band, IT IS an amatuer band.   Operating on 10 meters with a modified CB or with an FCC type accepted ham radio without an FCC license is illegal.    The FCC has really been stepping up enforcement lately and the fines can be in the $5,000 to $10,000 range.   So, to everyone out there - Don't do it.   You are not welcome on 10 meters unless you are properly licensed and have the proper equipment.   Having said that, it is not at all difficult to obtain your license to operate on the 10 meter band or on any of the lower HF bands.   10 meters is considered a relatively high frequency HF band and is not very reliable for long distance communication (DX) unless you are near or in the solar maximum of the 11 year cycle.   Right now, we are at the bottom and DX communication on 10 meters is almost non-existant except for some infrequent sporatic E communication which usually is short lived and only United States wide or at most to northern South America.    The FCC just passed a new regulation that eliminates the morse code requirement entirely.   I believe that will go in to effect on or about February 1, 2007.   So, now, you don't even have to learn the code to get your FCC license to operate on the ham bands.   There still are various levels of licenses which I think will be Technician, General and Extra.   Each test covers more detailed and difficult information and therefore requires more study to get to a higher level.   My recommendation is to study for and take the tech. and general class exams and get your license.    Then you will have ample frequency priviledges.   Take your extra class license exam later if you are in the hobby to stay.   If you get your General class license, you will be able to operate on all of the other HF bands including 15, 20, 40, 80 and 160 meters.   20 and 40 provide reliable world wide communication year round and throughout the highs and lows of the 11 year solar cycle.   We welcome new hams and are eager to help.   If anyone has any questions about becoming a Ham Radio Operator, I'd recommend contacting the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) at www.arrl.org and someone can help you there.   Or contact someone in your local area.   The ARRL can refer you to local Ham radio clubs.    Good luck!
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SOSCharger is a brand name. Looks pretty much identical to the handcrank sidewinder unit on your page though.
 
Either way, the gist is the same. Your page says compatible with most popular models. Motorola is on that list, but my phone is 6 or 7 yrs old. One of the 1st digital Startacs to come out.
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Hi,
Not sure if by 'SOS' you mean a brand name (I don't know it) or "emergency". For the Sidewinder hand crank charger that we carry, we have a complete list of phones compatible using one of the included adapters.

Adapters for other cell phones not included in this list are available for $5.00 including shipping. We can email you that list, or you can email us the make and model you have.(see email on site)

As for the question below, height restriction above roofline is probably covered by local ordinance, or maybe county. Any licensed builder would probably know, otherwise contact would be with local, township, or county building office.


Originally posted by FictionWriter FictionWriter wrote:

I looked at that SOS Charger. Looks like a nice unit, but my phone is old enough to where it ain't supported. Oh well.


Question on the radio issue: Someone mentioned a 100' mast. I'm assuming that refers to the antenna? Ok, I live real close to an airport. 1.5 to 2 miles from the runway. My house is on the takeoff/approach path.  What are the height regulations concerning maximum mast height? I'd hate to make an investment only to have some 'official' tell me the mast is too high?

 

Any idea where i can find the info?


    
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I looked at that SOS Charger. Looks like a nice unit, but my phone is old enough to where it ain't supported. Oh well.

Question on the radio issue: Someone mentioned a 100' mast. I'm assuming that refers to the antenna? Ok, I live real close to an airport. 1.5 to 2 miles from the runway. My house is on the takeoff/approach path.  What are the height regulations concerning maximum mast height? I'd hate to make an investment only to have some 'official' tell me the mast is too high?
 
Any idea where i can find the info?
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rocky,

i have wanted a volcano stove for some time--after i saw your post i did a search and you have a terrific price for the stove and accessories---ordered one today.  i have a solar oven that i love using and a reagular camping propane stove, but im really glad to find the volcano II becasue it is more versital than just he propane stove.

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In answer to some questions:

Solar/Handcrank Radios by Freeplay (The Summit) $43.50
Weather Alert Portable Radios by Oregon Scientific $34.50
           (includes emer. alerts stations as well as NOAH)
2-Way Radios by Motorola-FRS/GMRS (12 mile radius) $65.50
Radios and Flashlights

Hand Crank Cell Phone Charger (The Sidewinder) $22.50
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Why go all around town and spend hours searching the internet?
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Hope to see you there. Just email me or give me a call if you need special help, have questions, etc. Contact info on our website.

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Thank you 2ifbyC.I'll definately check it out after I get my radio.
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 I am planning to add a bc246t to my preps.I am a rank novice to scanning, could someone advise me as to what type of antenne I could buy to improve reception.Thank you in advance.
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More on radios:
There are various qualities of GMRS/FRS handheld radios. General purpose consumer grade radios with 22 channels sell for under $40. Better quality radios are available at ham radio stores for about $160. The latter have greater range and use rechargable batteries.
    
Note 1: Check actual frequencies in instruction manual. Channel numbers may not correspond between cheap FRS radios and good GMRS/FRS designs.

Note 2: There are some frequency (channel) limitations in certain regions. Check these for legal operation.

Note 3: Remember to register and get your FCC license for the GMRS radios, which send out high (above 0.5 Watts) power.    
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*** CAUTION ***
Communications in a pandemic (declared disaster) may not work as expected-

Internet access: may not be working after 3-4 days (saturated, maintenance issues at ISPs, capacity commandeered!)

GMRS/FRS Walkie Talkies: 2-3 mile range (need batteries) - need to work out a link to ham radio RACES operator in advance. Best for neighborhood use/support. GMRS radios require FCC license ($80, no exam). FRS does not seem to need license, but has reduced power (range). GMRS would probably have to be operated on low power, anyway, to conserve batteries.

Telephone: lines probably not available (much capacity commandeered!) May offer spotty service at best.

Cell Phones: failed quickly in 9/11 disaster (after 15 - 30 minutes!) Local "gummint" has the switch, too. Consider it commandeered!

Text Messaging: was partially effective in Katrina disaster, uncertain status in pandemic situation.

Ham radio: may well be limited to RACES operators by law, but probably working to some extent, may also be limited by such law to emergency traffic only. Possible availability for welfare traffic (family member status, etc.).

My recommendations:
(1) Take CERT training (posted this elsewhere, also).
(2) Form a CERT team in your neighborhood.
(3) Get FRS/GMRS radios - buy and learn to use them with your neighbors.
(4) Locate ham radio RACES operator (only for emergencies) He/she can listen on your FRS/GMRS frequencies but cannot speak on them legally. However, he/she may have licensed FRS/GMRS radio, also. Many do.
(5) Practice communicating with your ham operator. He/she may have a path to local Emergency Services (police, fire, medical, etc.).
(6) Work out contact schedules ("skeds") to conserve batteries and time.
(7) Be sure you have enough batteries.
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  Hi everyone, I am taking a ham radio class.  It is being offered free at the Mormon Church in my area.  I have six weeks left.  I hope i have enough time to finish and take my eaxm.
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Originally posted by Spoon Spoon wrote:

CB radios are a great way to communicate when everything else fails.  A standard CB signal only travels about 4-8 miles, but mods can be made.

A friend of mine, who turned me on to this site, has done some research regarding converting base stations.  He found ways to enhance the signal across multiple states.

It's not cheap ($500-$700), but it might be a great way to continue this forum.

I, or my friend, will post more detailed info soon for anyone interested.



Please, do NOT do this!  I'm an air traffic controller and we currently get CB interference from an illegal CB transmitter on one of our ATC frequencies.  Apparently, the CB frequency is something like the 5th harmonic of our ATC frequency and it interferes with our ability to talk to airplanes at times.

The FCC has a REASON for the rules they post.
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  radio shack has gmrs radios on sale, clearance, for  $29 including batteries and dual slot desktop chargers.
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The people who run this board might want to query all the members to find out who is a HAM.  HAMs have experience organizing communications such as weather nets when sever weather is coming upon a county.  HAM radios can also transmit packets.  In other words, they can become a wireless network.  I would suggest that HAMs form a group and start practicing relaying communications via this group.
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i got the pro-97 on sale!
 
$50 off - got the rechargable batteries too, for an extra $20
 
it will work on regular AA batteries as well, just in case.  still in the box, but i am happy
 
very happy
 
for lots of different reasons
 
but that is just me
 
thanks again to everyone who helped!
 
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just a quick update on my research and experiences
 
target had nothing is store i could find easily
 
best buy only has them online
 
radio shack seems to be the answer, which is what i initially expected anyway
 
seems that the pro-94 and pro-97 will both meet my needs
 
pro - 97 is my first choice, at least for now
 
i will report back after i get back this afternoon
 
there is a wal-mart next door, just in case, but i never did like going inside  walmart, esp.  when it's crowded
 
walmart has been a great resource to our family these last 2 weeks
 
i still avoid it like the plague, so to speak
 
i remember after katrina, when the gas stations started to close here a few days later, a friend of mine described the mad rush to get the last gas
 
it was like walmart at christmas, she said
 
that says it all.  i always follow the weather, i respect it immensly
i had my gas topped off already, and i waited an extra day - the wife didn't think that we really needed to do it at all.  i tried to tell her otherwise; i explained my reasoning to her.  she pointed out that we still had half a tank, so i bit my tounge and agreed with her.
 
when gas went up 10 cents overnight,  all she had to do was see the sign at the gas station.  i didn't even have to point it out to her.  she noticed the price, and she was pulling into the station to top off without me saying another word.  she is smart.  i know that.  and we still didn't have to wait in line.
 
i would never have let it go that far.
 
thanks again for all the help
 
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thank you everyone for the excellent information  i now know everything i need, within 24 hours, thanks to your help.
 
and now this info is here for all the world to see, for anyone to access
 
the true power of the internet
 
just my 2 cents here:
 
if it gets to the point where i need to listen in, for fear of my own safety, i do NOT want to be transmitting.  i might have a transmitter on hand, but it would be for the great rebuilding, the new society, the time when i can walk down to the town square with it under my arm,  and sit there and wait for someone who knows how to use it to show up, and together we can all figure out how to use whatever we have left.  that is the future i am prepping for, and i will have the resources on hand that i will need, even if i don't have the transmitter.  i have the receiver.  i will know how to find the transmitter if i think i need to.  i will be in control of the situation, to the best of my ability.
 
that is the future i am planning for
 
WHAT ARE YOU GETTING READY FOR?
 
 
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Originally posted by justme justme wrote:

Hand Crank cell phone charger (for obvious reasons)

Just google it. :) You can get one for about $20 USD.

Here is one site that sells it http://www.soscharger.net/ (I have not purchased from them so I can not endorse this company, I am simply giving an example)

 
 
Hi Justme...
 
I just ordered a "Solio" solar-powered cell phone charger. 
 
It has a good review here:  http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-11288_7-6427792-3.html?tag=arw   (The "crank" style chargers did not fare as well.)
 
I`ll now find out firsthand how good (or not good) it really is.
 
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