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CRS, DrPH
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It is a great insecticide, fipronil, I have used it as a flea treatment on pets many times. But, I have to confess, I see no reason for using it on chickens. Diatomaceous earth leaves it standing as a poultry insecticide, they even treat themselves.
My chickens had red mites once, brought in on a chicken given us. None of the chemical insecticides worked, the cages remained crawling, the chickens were miserable and plucking a bird for the table was a horror! Diatomaceous earth in their favorite dust baths cured the problem in one week - organically! All traces were gone, the cages were barren, the chickens happy and there were no nasty chemical residues to make us sick. The cages they are kept in in Holland must have no dust bath option. No Dutch eggs for me even if there is a shortage.
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Yep, that's the one we use on our cats too. Can't say they enjoy it, but it works and we've never noticed any issues with their health because of it.
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Great story, thanks!! I've consulted to massive US egg breaking operations and poultry processing concerns, it is amazing how many eggs & birds they manage. There is a lot of pressure on growers to eliminate antibiotics in animal husbandry, I've seen TV commercials where they claim that putting oregano in the drinking water helps reduce disease!! Any experience? ....it would help to make chicken cacciatore I suppose! |
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Herbal anhelminthics are available. I don't know if they contain oregano: or sage or fenugreek for that matter. They work. Strangely both thyme and tansy are worm killers, The chickens don't like the taste though.
However, ditomaceous earth beats the lot. The chickens bathe in it which removes all external parasites and eat it which has a similar internal effect. Fipronil is a great insecticide on cats. The vet used to prescribe it for the house rabbit, but they stopped doing so when some people's bunnies had bad reactions. Rabbits are (amazingly) a species of primate, so that is not unexpected. Our rabbit never had a bad reaction, but then again she used to think she was a cat. Apparently the reverse placebo effect works on bunnies too.
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http://www.dw.com/en/fipronil-what-is-it-and-how-did-it-get-into-our-eggs/a-39963678
A cleaning company used (knowingly?) a mix of cleaning material with fipronil. So fipronil ended up in eggs and chickens. It looks like this may have happened in several EU countries. Here in the Netherlands a government agency looks after foodsafety. They claim their job is to warn the public with every disturbance in food safety. But the amount of fipronil in eggs (proberbly for most EU countries) is below any level that would do harm (unless you eat that much eggs-in wich case the eggs themselves could be a problem !) Egg-producers are now angry because in their opinion there is no real big problem with the eggs but the agency is giving very big problems in egg-trade. After the US the Netherlands is the biggest agriculture exporter in the world. Eggs end up in all kind of products. This case is an example of a communication-chain going wrong-in my opinion. In many innercities air-polution does more harm than thes eggs will do. The chicken will have to go on a diet-to burn fat wich contains fipronil-and of course that has also economic consequences. (Here there is a tendency to eat less meat-stories like this will increase that tendency further).
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