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Albert
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Posted: February 22 2020 at 9:37am |
Great video and update. Completely agree that we are in the early stages of a pandemic with self sustaining community spread beginning. Also note that the Iran cases have a MUCH higher CFR that what China reported. I have been outspoken about how all data from China with the 2% CFR is from the CCP, of which can not be trusted, and so many have let their guard down thinking it's just a severe cold. Then I went to the other option thinking we had a new variant emerging in the Middle East and Europe, with regard to the much higher CFR. It's either one of the two, but most likely China has been lying with disinformation campaign, which is why they won't let the WHO and CDC into Hubei. Or maybe it has mutated further, who knows. Either way, we are in the early stages of the next pandemic, and a Cat-5 pandemic. Anyway - Good video update here by Dr. Campbell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VasccCzr2TY&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2xbFqXuQHf8LAx3NasHETLwtNzzSYUDwtr_xuOEFbBzl3OpZU6-sXlnkA |
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It could be BOTH! How is that for scary?
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Excellent video. New information, esp. with Iran. Thanks.
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If it has been circulating this long,maybe a few mutations? The novel coronavirus (covid-19) could have begun transmission between humans in November from a place other than the seafood market in Wuhan in Hubei province, new research by institutes under the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) has said. Until now the Huanan seafood market in the outbreak epicentre Wuhan has been seen as the most probable location where the virus had jumped from a wild animal to a human in December, and then quickly spread across China and beyond. The new study contradicts that sequence of events – and pushes back the timeline of the outbreak significantly. It says that the coronavirus was introduced to the seafood market from another location – by a human – and then rapidly spread in the city.The findings were the result of analyses of genome data, sources of infection and the route of spread of 93 samples of the novel coronavirus collected from 12 countries across four continents including the US, France, Australia, Japan, and Taiwan. “The new coronavirus from the South China seafood market was introduced from other places, and spread rapidly outside the market; at the same time, the current spread of cases came from at least 3 routes. The new coronavirus had two significant population expansions before February 12 (December 8 and January 6 respectively),” the study said. “According to the new coronavirus genome data, it was estimated that the population expansion before January occurred on December 8. This result suggests that the virus may have spread from person to person in early December and even in late November, and then accelerated human-to-human transmission in the south China seafood market,” the study added. The authors argued that a “patient zero” could have passed on the virus to workers or sellers at the Huanan seafood market; subsequently, the crowded market facilitated the further transmission of the virus to buyers, which could have then triggered a wider spread in early December 2019. “Researchers further confirmed that infection cases in the other nine provinces and 11 other countries in China were basically directly or indirectly imported from Wuhan,” the study said. The study estimates that the population expansion before February was January 6, which was related to the annual travel rush related to the Chinese New Year’s day holidays. |
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The death reported in Singapore today was a 40 yo male who was found dead in his apartment, and tested posthumously. How many dead are there in the apartment blocks in China that have had their doors welded shut? |
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We will be able to calculate that backwards when the real CFR becomes known from the cases outside Communist control.
I do not think it will save China's face at all. |
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Albert
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Dr. Campbell is doing live video chat in 15 min. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDhKMZrAbPE&fbclid=IwAR3-QK2rB1sjTM7Noz0fYoICjBG0Ew8Wu9s27Ty507y6T271yppu-M3NKIU
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Albert
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Completely agree. |
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Definitely a new, subdued tone from Dr. Campbell. This thing is starting to get its legs like we all hoped it wouldn't. QP
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"Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival." - W. Edwards Deming
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Albert
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Watching it live now. Dr. Campbell is saying it mutated. I was right. Gosh, what do I win? o_0
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Albert
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It's mutated. We could be in a little trouble here. Hope you all are watching the video.
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He is coughing well in the video and I lost the sound for ages. Censorship?
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FluMom
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This Dr.Campbell has his Sh^t together...I am seeing this Covid19 is bad!!! Sorry Chuck this is going to come here and our hospitals will not handle it well.
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Technophobe
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It also seems he was cut off mid stream. My feed went silent at the end - so his last words were lost. I can't help but wonder if he was deliberately silenced.
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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
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FluMom
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Not sure I watched the whole thing and he stopped with how to test. Interesting.
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KiwiMum
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Techno, he has a permenant cough and I think he mutes out his coughs afterwards. The other day he had the hiccups and muted them all out which made for interesting watching. But he does have a little mucus type tickle.
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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FluMom
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He lives in Northern England I would think he has permanent post nasal drip...LOL!
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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