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    Posted: February 23 2016 at 10:09pm
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Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

The US Centre for Disease Control (CDC) has said it is investigating 14 new reports of possible sexual transmission of the Zika virus.

The cases include several involving pregnant women, the CDC said.

The public health body made the revelation as it published new guidance on sexual transmission of the virus........


The CDC is advising all men who have travelled to an area active with the Zika virus to use condoms or abstain from sex for the length of the pregnancy.

There is no evidence yet that women can transmit Zika virus to their sex partners, but more research is needed to understand this issue, the health body said......

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-35645316

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Good job Edwin.

15% of all cases may be sexually transmitted?  As Chuck mentioned, we may have a monster on our hands.


C.D.C. Investigating 14 New Reports of Zika Transmission Through Sex

By SABRINA TAVERNISE


Two mosquitoes of the species aedes aegypti, which can spread Zika virus. The C.D.C. reported additional cases of sexual transmission of the disease on Tuesday. Credit Oscar Rivera/European Pressphoto Agency


Health authorities in the United States said they were investigating 14 new reports of the Zika virus possibly being transmitted by sex, including to pregnant women. If confirmed, the unexpectedly high number would have major implications for controlling the virus, which is usually spread by mosquito bites.

Scientists had believed sexual transmission of Zika to be extremely rare. Only a few cases have ever been documented. But if all the women in the cases the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is examining test positive for the virus — as two women already have, and four others have done in preliminary lab tests — officials believe there is no way other than sex that they could have contracted it.

The specter of so many cases — all in the continental United States — brings fresh complexity to the medical mystery of Zika. The virus is suspected to cause birth defects and a rare condition of temporary paralysis.

“We were surprised that there was this number,” Dr. Anne Schuchat, the deputy director at the C.D.C., said in an interview. “If a number of them pan out, that’s much more than I was expecting.”


In all the cases the C.D.C. is examining, women in the continental United States had sex with men who had traveled to countries where the virus is circulating, and developed symptoms associated with the virus within about two weeks of their male partners’ symptoms.

Officials at the C.D.C. reported the potential cases in an alert to health care providers on Tuesday.

The agency did not say exactly how many of the women were pregnant, but it reiterated its recommendation that people returning from Zika-infected areas use condoms or abstain from sex for the duration of their partner’s pregnancy. The alert said there was no evidence that women could transmit Zika virus to their sex partners, but added that more research was needed to be sure.

This country has become a laboratory of sorts to test the sexual transmission of Zika, as scientists race to understand the disease. Transmission by mosquitoes is not yet happening in the continental United States because it is still winter, so health officials say they believe that any infection of an American resident who has not traveled to a place where Zika is circulating has probably been contracted through sex.

“In the U.S., where most people aren’t traveling to these areas, we may be able to uncover the potential risk,” Dr. Schuchat said.

In all, the United States has around 90 cases of Zika, according to the most recent count from the C.D.C., most of them contracted by people who had traveled to Latin America, currently the center of the virus. If confirmed, the new reports of sexual transmission would represent about 15 percent of that total.

“It’s beginning to look as though Zika can be more readily transmitted sexually than we first anticipated,” said Dr. William Schaffner, professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical School. “These data are illuminating some of the things we don’t know.”

Zika was originally identified in the 1940s in Africa. For most people, it is a relatively mild virus, causing rashes, red eyes and joint pain; many people have no symptoms at all. But the association with a condition known as microcephaly, in which babies have been born with unusually small and deformed heads to women who had Zika during pregnancy, has raised global alarms. On Feb. 1, the World Health Organization declared the virus and its link to the birth defects a public health emergency.

Questions about how frequently Zika can be transmitted by sex and how long the virus can stay in semen are particularly urgent here, given the large volume of travel between the United States and Central and South America. There were about 5.5 million visitors from South America to the United States in 2014, and nearly a million from Central America, according to figures from the Department of Commerce.

And with the season for mosquitoes — still believed to be the primary mode of infection — nearing in the United States, Tuesday’s report is likely to further complicate preparations in states across the country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/health/zika-virus-sexual-transmission.html?_r=0


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I'll also add that if it is sexually transmitted that easily, it's definitely going global and Canada should revamp its plans in thinking they're in the clear.  Also looks like people may need to pay attention to our Level 5 alert.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/health/zika-virus-sexual-transmission.html?smprod=nytnow&_r=0

In all, the United States has around 90 cases of Zika, according to the most recent count from the C.D.C., most of them contracted by people who had traveled to Latin America, currently the center of the virus. If confirmed, the new reports of sexual transmission would represent about 15 percent of that total.

“It’s beginning to look as though Zika can be more readily transmitted sexually than we first anticipated,” said Dr. William Schaffner, professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical School. “These data are illuminating some of the things we don’t know.”

Questions about how frequently Zika can be transmitted by sex and how long the virus can stay in semen are particularly urgent here, given the large volume of travel between the United States and Central and South America. There were about 5.5 million visitors from South America to the United States in 2014, and nearly a million from Central America, according to figures from the Department of Commerce.

And with the season for mosquitoes — still believed to be the primary mode of infection — nearing in the United States, Tuesday’s report is likely to further complicate preparations in states across the country.

comment: It is a given that Zika can be sexually transmitted. They have known that for  years. No one wants to see this become an epidemic - much less a Pandemic. There is no effective treatment for it and not likely to be a tested vaccine for years. So what is the solution? Tell an already struggling medical system in the U.S. to prepare to treat millions of sick people.  It is kind of like the under the tree discussion I had with a member as to what happens if Avian became airborne. If we survived we could sit under a tree and he would tell me - you know Med - you were right - damn this was and now most of the people are dead. If this disease does get really bad, it will tax an already hurting health care system and even more viruses and such will spread. Pretty gloomy for a hump day which is bad enough already don't you think?

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Ya it's pretty bad news, but we all already knew that 1.5 mill people were not all bitten my mosquitoes in Brazil and they have been downplaying transmission by other means.   The problem I have with all of this is that I believe the CDC is still being a little misleading, and that Zika is being transmitted by other bodily fluids as well and not just by sexual transmission.  They're claiming sexual transmission on all cases, which is total BS.   They're still downplaying.   Soon they will come clean on other bodily fluids.  Hell, they already reported the virus was active in saliva. 
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Originally posted by Albert Albert wrote:

I'll also add that if it is sexually transmitted that easily, it's definitely going global and Canada should revamp its plans in thinking they're in the clear.  Also looks like people may need to pay attention to our Level 5 alert.



I thought Canada had a couple cases already? I tend to 'snap to attention' when Canada is mentioned & I think I remember reading a week or two ago that Canada had a couple cases...maybe they were suspected cases that turned out neg? Hmmm - now I have to go look. We have a zillion skeeters here in spring/summer/fall, supposed to be different variety that doesn't carry - but that means squat in the real world (jmo).
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Albert, I was thinking the same thing.The virus seems to have multiple delivery methods

I believe the WHO and CDC are sitting on their hands until the science rolls in. 
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Hi Cobber, I still think this all goes back to Ebola when they mentioned bodily fluids and the problems it caused with travel restrictions with the airlines refusing to fly to W. Africa, and with Obama having to fight the idea of restrictions, etc.... and with the quarantine arguments and problems we all saw.    If they mention bodily fluids as transmission, or even easily sexually transmitted, then we will see a replay of all that, and perhaps even worse.  Could you imagine airlines refusing to land in Brazil with the Olympics coming up?   Or if people started cancelling their plans to attend the Olympics? Although those things are none of the WHO's business nor concern, they make it their business and seem to abuse their authority putting human health and safety in the back seat and economics first.

The WHO will not acknowledge that Zika is frequently sexually transmitted, nor that it can be transmitted by other bodily fluids, nor that there is a link to microcephaly and GBS.    They will confirm all of this after the Olympics, at which point it will be too late.


     
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Reports of Zika Cases Growing Quickly in U.S.

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Reports of people sickened by Zika virus are growing quickly in the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday, illustrating serious challenges posed by frequent travel to and from regions affected by the virus.

Details provided by the agency also suggest that pregnant women face significant risk from the disease. Five of nine pregnant women who traveled to affected areas and had Zika symptoms had complications.

The CDC said it has received 147 reports of Zika illnesses to date. Of those cases, 107 were travelers who brought the disease home. Another 40 are cases involving people who were infected locally, mostly in Puerto Rico and other U.S. territories. Puerto Rico has confirmed 117 cases overall, making it the most affected U.S. area, CDC Director Tom Frieden said in a news briefing.

The pregnancy complications, as well as 14 reports of possible sexual transmission, have surprised CDC officials. “We did not anticipate we would see this many sexually transmitted cases of Zika,” Dr. Frieden said.

That, and the number of abnormalities the agency discovered in the unborn children of pregnant women, caused Dr. Frieden to reiterate forcefully the agency’s recommendations about prevention. Scientists are continuing to find new signs of a link between Zika and microcephaly, a serious birth defect in which babies are born with undersized brains and skulls, he said. “The evidence is getting stronger by the day,” he said.

“If you’re pregnant, avoid travel to a place where Zika is spreading,” he said. Pregnant women who live in an area where the virus is circulating should take precautions to avoid mosquito bites and sexual transmission, he said.

On Friday, the CDC advised pregnant women to consider not going to the 2016 Summer Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, to reduce their chances of picking up the virus. The virus has been detected across much of the South American country, and a number of babies have been born with Zika-linked microcephaly.

The CDC is also expanding the availability of diagnostic tests for Zika to more than 20 qualified laboratories, he said. He said pregnant women who have traveled can be tested for Zika two to 12 weeks after their return.

President Barack Obama has asked Congress for $1.9 billion to combat Zika, $828 million of which would go to the CDC for work such as expanding laboratory capacity around the country.

Zika is circulating in 34 countries and territories, according to the CDC.

The agency said it had reports of nine pregnant women confirmed with Zika infection and is investigating 10 other possible cases. The nine women were all infected in Zika-affected areas, including Puerto Rico, Mexico, Haiti and American Samoa.

Two women had miscarriages, one gave birth to a baby with microcephaly, and two terminated their pregnancies, the agency said. Two other infants were born healthy, and two women are still pregnant.

Details of some of the cases suggest that Zika poses the greatest risk to pregnant women and their unborn children in the first trimester.

One who lived in Brazil for her entire first trimester gave birth to a baby with severe microcephaly—the birth defect linked to the virus. She had Zika symptoms in her seventh and eighth weeks, according to the report. The baby was born in late 2015 with an undersized head and signs of damage to its central nervous system. It had seizures, difficulty swallowing, and eye inflammation, and was discharged from the hospital with a feeding tube. Lab tests found evidence of Zika infection in the mother and the placenta of the baby.

The CDC wouldn’t identify where she lived, but health authorities in Hawaii previously reported a similar case.

Another woman traveled to a Zika-affected region at the end of her first trimester and got sick then too. An ultrasound at 20 weeks showed severe brain damage, and an amniocentesis detected Zika virus. The woman terminated her pregnancy.

A third pregnant woman who had Zika symptoms at 17 and 18 weeks ultimately delivered a full-term healthy baby.

The CDC said it had received 14 reports of possible sexual transmission between Feb. 6 and 22, suggesting that is a more common mode of transmission than previously understood. Among the six cases that have been either confirmed or preliminarily confirmed, sexual contact occurred while the men were sick or just after they recovered. Two other cases have been excluded, and the remaining six are still under investigation, the CDC said.

The agency said it isn’t known how long the virus persists in semen.

One study found it in the semen of one man 62 days after he was ill, but the virus wasn’t infectious. Nor is it known whether sexual transmission of Zika poses a different risk of congenital infection than mosquito-borne transmission, the CDC said.

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The WHO is one worthless organization.  They are completely remaining silent, and refuse to confirm a link to microcephaly.   Like I've said a thousand times, the WHO is doing this as they're more concerned with a big turnout for the Olympics and that is there top priority.    They need to butt-out of the economic impact to Brazil and stick to their job.

I'm fairly pleased with the CDC pushing the confirmation of the link to Microcephaly, and advising pregnant women not to attend the Olympics, but they still need to take it a little further.

The one thing the CDC is withholding, in my opinion, is that some of the sexual partners of the pregnant women never showed any symptoms and that the virus spreads from asymptomatic carries with no symptoms.   That is clearly the case 100%.   They're also not talking about it spreading by other bodily fluids.    So although the CDC is doing pretty good with this, they are still intentionally avoiding some important issues.   
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Originally posted by Albert Albert wrote:

the WHO is doing this as they're more concerned with a big turnout for the Olympics and that is there top priority. 


I've just polished my tin hat, so I am wondering if this is an attempt to generally reduce the world wide population levels Dead
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http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/02/26/cdc-says-6-confirmed-and-probable-cases-zika-sexual-transmission.html

Of the 14 suspected cases we only have 6 which have been confirmed. We do not have a monster on our hands with 6 cases in the United States of actual transmission among 323 million people.

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

It is very possible Zika has already circled the globe several times and infected most of the world population. Over 70% of the population in Nigeria have antibodies in their blood for it and there has been no serious outbreaks of micro-cephalic babies. Zika is being hyped and still they are hard pressed to establish the connection. It will take years to do so with many scientific studies.

As I post about widespread Flu in much of the U.S. - and a mutation of this could bring our nation and infrastructure to its knees compared to Zika. Swine Flu or MERS or any number of recent nasty airborne viruses are a much worse threat than Zika. One reality can be seen in comparing Zika to Ebola which was a real problem.

The World Health Organization has drawn comparisons between the current Zika crisis and the Ebola disaster. The two situations could not be more dissimilar. Ebola was associated with an approximate 70% case fatality rate and 15,216 confirmed cases as of January 20th for all of West Africa. Recall there was great concern at the time of virus mutation leading to a more transmissible form of Ebola. It turns out this was not the case and CDC’s forecasts of over a million cases in West Africa were not realized. Zika virus infection estimates so far are as high as 2 million cases across 18 tropical American countries, with more than 3,500 birth defects documented. Fatalities have been rarely reported among patients with sickle cell disease. Zika is impacting drastically more people than the Ebola epidemic, however without the same degree of lethality. . So, to compare Ebola and Zika is truly not appropriate: these are two very different situations.

It should also be noted that Zika was not the only Africa-origin exotic virus to recently be introduced to tropical America: Chikungunya appeared two years ago and has spread rapidly as well. Chikungunya is also an African mosquito-transmitted virus. Brazil has, to-date, reported limited data regarding the emergence of Chikungunya in their country so we do not know how many people have been impacted. Brazil’s overall public health surveillance enterprise is not as robust as other countries and they have motivations to avoid reporting outbreaks such as the recent World Cup and upcoming Olympics.Both Chikungunya and Zika have been associated with birth defects so Chikungunya deserves our attention, too.

There are some baselines here and common sense. Whether is it recently prevalent in Latin America or has been there for years i.e. they now are testing more and getting more positives - don't go for Spring vacation to infected countries and if you have a lover who does use a condom when you have sex, just like HIV.

Dr. John and I have discussed this several times and the real threat here is that it could wipe out, if widespread enough, much of the new generation. The effect on the medical care system would be devastating and Lord help us, it would effect mostly the poor minorities which have multiple children and large families and third world nations.

The only possible believable conspiracy theory on this would be that someone has developed a more virulent strain of this on purpose. This would be another example of a deliberate effort to reduce the Feeder population and immigrants which are bringing the economy in areas to its knees.

Yet currently with 6 confirmed cases are we there yet?  Not yet.

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Hi Med, of course the monster on our hands comment was not referring to "today", and at this very moment, but the future and once the virus enters into the mosquito population this summer, and accompanied with human transmission.   Then we will have a monster on our hands, and because of this, you could say we already have to deal with it.  You have to think a little down the road in terms of grasping the full meaning of what I meant.  To me, the future and the present are all in the same.   When I say on "our" hands, I'm also defining "our" on a global scale at times, so it can also encompass a lot more than just the lives of our own and people we know.   I think in terms of the future - and on large scales.    Maybe we need a translator for me, lol.

We're looking at around an estimated 10% cases so far in the U.S. that may have been sexually transmitted.    To me, that's a very high number, and wait until it hits the mosquitoes in the southern states in 30 days from now.   They, (which means us) will have the proverbial monster on their hands.   I suppose it's only a monster if it effects our owns lives,  but I don't think in those terms.
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We killed 7 mosquitoes in our room last night and I thought of Zika. And we didn't catch them all because i could hear one just as i was going to sleep. I'm not sure if anyone has tested NZ mosquitoes to see if they can carry the virus.

Would quarantining the 90 cases in America work?
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Hi Kiwi, it seems that most countries have quarantine plans to stop it from spreading, or they put them under surveillance.  The U.S will not do this now after the controversies from Ebola and quarantining, and the previous airport screens, flight restrictions, etc.....  This U.S. is not about to take the smallest step in prevention for the sake of keeping the peace.    The lessons health officials learned from Ebola is to keep quiet on things and downplay at all costs.   Last time Obama's approval rating tanked during Ebola, and they need to prevent that from happening at all costs.   The WHO is caught in the same spot.  They need to keep the peace for Obama, and making sure this does not hurt Brazil's economy in any way by travel restrictions with the upcoming Olympics.

So far, this lack of action has resulted in two abortions, 1 baby with severe brain damage, and two potential miscarriages.   Perhaps proper screening and surveillance could have saved one of those babies.  

To proceed forward with the Olympics and to risk just one human life of a baby is fairly despicable.  Is the Olympics actually worth one life of a baby?
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