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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

Syria is a sovereign country
Russia is there at  their request
for Turkey and Saudi Arabia to attack is a WAR CRIME
and the US is complicit in the violation of international law
makes us part of the "axis of evil" don't it ?


Having some difficulties getting this stuff up. Turkey has not backed down or agreed to anything at present and still is preparing for an invasion to depose Assad.

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It would appear that this one of the few places tracking the real events occurring in Syria and a possible invasion from Turkey in the near future. Having some serious issues getting this post to you. This is the third time AFT has shut down on me. Despite mainstream media announcements that there is a cease fire, this is not the case.  Still the battle continues with ISIS shutting down a main road and they are fighting to clear it. U.S. continues to back the IS state revolutionary forces and those have been under attack from Russian air attacks. One gain has been the ability of humanitarian aid to enter the war torn cities but nothing has stopped concerning Turkey's preparation for an armed invasion of Syria with Arabian military and ground forces supporting them. Although Russia has advanced missile arrays positioned near the border, and most jets would be shot down, a large scale ground invasion to topple the Assad regime with 350,000 troops is still possible and could greatly escalate the situation. Stay tuned for "The Real News." We are working - i.e. CWN to set up our own channel but will work with AFT at least post here.

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The Real News - the cease fire that is not a  cease fire...

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Good video. Ends with request for money to get independent press to cover news. I think independent media is essential for people to find out what is "realy happening" (as far as reality is not to complex to cover). 

The cease-fire is an open door. It gives groups the chance to change positions with the ceasefire as an excuse. That is the "big good thing"! It has Russia and the US/NATO talking. Iran is in a different position towards the west than it was just a few months ago. Israel has to deal with Russia more then before the Russian intervention in Syria. 

The 'devil-is-in-the-detail' is always true. But the "parties that matter"agree that IS and Al-Nusra are not wanted in Syria. Turkey and Gulf States-the sponsors of these terror-groups-have lost.

The main problem-as put in the video-is "the west does not know what they are doing in Syria". The US has given support to groups that are fighting eachother. The EU needs a solution to the refugee-invasion of millions of people send by Turkey (to blackmail Europe). 

The war over Syria was a war over a lot of things (religion, drinking water) but fossil energy-the gas pipeline from Qatar to the EU to keep Russia limited in the EU energy-wise-should be seen as something of the past. 

The EU is changing towards reneweble, durable energy-economic growth is-at best-limited. The Gulf States and the United States both have become energy-exporters. 

Basicly one of the"bones in this dog-fight"has gone. Fighting for that Qatar-gaspipeline with the present energymarket is useless. It is a good thing whene the US is getting that point. 
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While there is a cease fire - there still is a major problem with a possible invasion of Syria by Turkey. This will mess up whatever cease fire is in place and Russia could actually launch a tactical nuke on Turkey to defend itself and as a member of NATO, Turkey could pull us into a war. (U.S.)

This is not the Alex Jones hour (i.e. groundless nonsense) The following is hard to confirm but likely. Obama is talking to Putin - and despite all the drama of what Putin may or may not thinking of Obama - I think both men recognize the severity and possibility of nukes in Syria. Turkey does have them and can use them in response. Never let it be said what a country has to do. If Turkey gets themselves in a mess, it is possible the U.S. and other NATO members will have the common sense to back off whether the Saudis are there with them or not.

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It would appear that Turkey is mobilizing to invade Syria. Despite the much publicized "cease fire" in Syria and hopes for peace, the presence of Saudia Arabian forces - and a combined operation with forces of at least 150,000 troops, planes, tanks, and arms, this still could escalate and be a very dangerous situation.

It is rough trying to get "The Real News" because there is a lot of propaganda out there and yet - nothing that has come out so far has verified that the war games about to take place in Syria have been called off.  There is nothing about this on mainstream media - or at least for now - nothing is coming up.

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A Russian TV channel has obtained footage showing a Turkish military buildup on the Syrian border near Kobani. This follows a series of cross-border shelling attacks, by Turkish forces against Kurdish positions in Syria.


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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

Good video. Ends with request for money to get independent press to cover news. I think independent media is essential for people to find out what is "realy happening" (as far as reality is not to complex to cover). 

Med comment:  Josh - the GIM - what I am working on too - needs funding. Haven't been pushing this but to compete with sometimes massive amounts of misinformation - it takes whatever is the local currency to keep these lines open.

The cease-fire is an open door. It gives groups the chance to change positions with the ceasefire as an excuse. That is the "big good thing"! It has Russia and the US/NATO talking. Iran is in a different position towards the west than it was just a few months ago. Israel has to deal with Russia more then before the Russian intervention in Syria.

Med comment: The cease fire is a good opportunity, but with this brewing in the background, this would appear to be an effort to invade Syria and remove Assad from power. Of course, Turkey even with the Saudi doesn't have the force to defy NATO, but that doesn't mean they won't.

The 'devil-is-in-the-detail' is always true. But the "parties that matter"agree that IS and Al-Nusra are not wanted in Syria. Turkey and Gulf States-the sponsors of these terror-groups-have lost.

The main problem-as put in the video-is "the west does not know what they are doing in Syria". The US has given support to groups that are fighting each other. The EU needs a solution to the refugee-invasion of millions of people send by Turkey (to blackmail Europe).

Med comment: There has been no consistent strong foreign policy by the U.S. in Syria. As you know in battle, he or she who falters is lost. To pause for years is allowing dozens of others to get into this and it is even more complex than before. Currently it does not appear the Western policy or strategy to take out ISIS is working. When ISIS starts losing ground and cities large scale then the tide will change.

The war over Syria was a war over a lot of things (religion, drinking water) but fossil energy-the gas pipeline from Qatar to the EU to keep Russia limited in the EU energy-wise-should be seen as something of the past. 

The EU is changing towards reneweble, durable energy-economic growth is-at best-limited. The Gulf States and the United States both have become energy-exporters. 

Basicly one of the"bones in this dog-fight"has gone. Fighting for that Qatar-gaspipeline with the present energymarket is useless. It is a good thing whene the US is getting that point.

Med comment: In one of the videos I posted a man was standing and talking about wanting to reclaim their nation. The Western world just doesn't get it as people are starving, eating grass and dying of disease while we figure out new recipes for McDonald's and what is stylish to wear.  Their nation to them is their nation. Their birthplace, where there children are born and are dying. If they are going to police the planet, then at least they should feed the people whose cities they are bombing or perhaps rethink bombing them or have done this a long time ago.
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March 2, 2016 6:16 EST
Fighting continues in Syria despite mainstream media spin of successful cease fire.

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http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/mar/03/the-latest-syria-tv-nationwide-power-blackout/

3/3/16 Nationwide power blackout in Syria

This does not stop the news coverage from Syria. It is looking like a huge bait and switch as Russian attacks become targets to advance the Assad regime agenda. This all was a stall to let them get ready versus a real cease fire. The rebels are asking Assad be removed from office. Obviously, this is a none negotiable item and U.S. supported rebels are still being bombed by the Russians as opposed to ISIS.

During the brief truce some of the resistance were playing Play Station while still on guard. Forces are still massing at the Turkey-Syrian border. Putin allegedly has not ruled out a tactical nuke if Turkey invades and it looks like they will. Turkey is a NATO nation and will definitely be citing Article 5 if this happens.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm


Collective defense - Article 5

The principle of collective defense is at the very heart of NATO’s founding treaty. It remains a unique and enduring principle that binds its members together, committing them to protect each other and setting a spirit of solidarity within the Alliance.
  • Collective defence means that an attack against one Ally is considered as an attack against all Allies.
  • The principle of collective defence is enshrined in Article 5 of the Washington Treaty.
  • NATO invoked Article 5 for the first time in its history after the 9/11 terrorist attacks against the United States.
  • NATO has taken collective defence measures on several occasions, for instance in response to the situation in Syria and in the wake of the Ukraine crisis.
  • NATO has standing forces on active duty that contribute to the Alliance’s collective defence efforts on a permanent basis.


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Turkey prepares to invade Syria.

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Journalists scramble under fire monitoring the situation on the Turkish-Syrian border.

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Fighters are pouring into Syria from Turkey.

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Both Turkey and Saudi Arabia can be seen as acting as if in war with Syria. The US-led coalition is also acting without Syrian (Assad) acceptence. 

Via the UN security council both Turkey/Gulf States and US-coalition (as far as Turkey and KSA are not included by that coalition) can not be "corrected". But under international law their acts go against all kind of rules. 

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-syria-using-migrant-crisis-weapon-nato-commander-183654232.html NATO commander in a bizarre spin blames Russia for the EU refugee-crisis. 
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France give Saudi royal IS sponsor "Legion of Honor" medal http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-06/saudis-awarded-frances-highest-national-honor-fight-against-terrorism as zerohedge puts it: This would be like pinning a Blue Ribbon on Kim Jong-Un for his efforts to promote sanity and maturity in international relations.

There are no words.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-07/its-our-damned-duty-merkel-turkey-make-last-ditch-effort-save-eu-key-summit

Another IS sponsor Turkey is trying to get all it wants from the EU for stop sending refugees. In Turkey itself Today's Zaman was taken over by Erdogan-state control. Allthough they stil manage to report on the protests against the Erdogan-dictatorship (sponsored by the EU, US, NATO) http://www.todayszaman.com/latest-news_petition-calls-on-court-to-reverse-decision-on-zaman-urges-erdogan-to-end-crackdown-on-free-press_414070.html

Even high-ranking officials are getting fed up with the west sponsoring sponsors of terrorism http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-04/former-uk-ambassador-syria-usuk-foreign-policy-doomed-even-corrupt

Turkey is supposed to be a member of the "US-led coalition fighting IS" but it is shelling Kurdish fighters in Aleppo who are fighting against IS https://www.rt.com/news/334811-turkey-shell-ypg-syria/

According to VT Turkey is sending the IS-leader to Libya http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/07/embarrassed-erdogan-sends-isis-leader-to-libya-for-being-poor-houseguest/

Russia to deploy its only heavy aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean 

DEBKAfile March 7, 2016, 12:50 PM (IDT)

Moscow is planning to send its only heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" to the Mediterranean sea in the summer to lead a permanent naval group, said a high-ranking source in the main command of the Russian Navy. It will be upgraded for new types of aircraft and munitions, including the new MiG-29K and "other planes.” DEBKAfile: The Kuznetzov can carry forty  SU-33, Mig-29 and SU-25UT fighter jets and 24 helicopters 

 


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Update - What cease fire?   The war continues

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Despite assurances for peace, the bombing continues in Aleppo, Syria. The death toll from this revolution of forces trying to remove Assad from power, has been hundreds of thousands of civilians, many of them women and children.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/12/worst-place-in-world-aleppo-ruins-four-years-syria-war

This is not a fight against Isis in many ways, though Isis forces continue to fight, they are losing power in some regions. It is bombing by Russia to remove Al Nusra which is supported by the United States.

This becomes very confusing in that the U.S. financed and created ISIS to topple Assad. It is possible chemical weapons, which they were told to get rid of, had been used and with all the talk of peace, Syria is still a powder-keg waiting to explode.

One grows weary of the propaganda and bold faced lies from all sides. If the U.S. had gone in 2 years ago and put boots on the ground to fight, perhaps there would have been casualties. This is politically undesirable and could the current administration votes in the coming elections. They cannot fight a war with less than 200 Delta Force special forces, using drones to target leaders, and taking out prime targets.

If there had not been a power vacuum in the world as well as Syria, China, Iran, North Korea, and even Russia would not be taking advantage of it and expanding their territories. Russia is in Ukraine. China is expanding in the South China Sea. North Korea is blatantly test nuclear missiles as is Iran.

Why can't the Western World wake up and smell the coffee?

People are dying in Syria. Most of these are not fighters. They are civilians. We stand on the brink of a possible global war which could erupt as Turkey invades Syria.

It must stop or else it will reach a point of no return.

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Turkish bombers attack northern Iraq. It may not be the invasion spoken of but despite statements that Russian anti-missiles would take down any planes entering Iraq, they completed a successful bombing mission. March 14, 2016 - 4 hours ago.

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Per ABC News' Facebook page: (March 14, 2016 10:51 AM PST)

JUST IN: Putin orders Russian military to begin withdrawal from Syria, saying Russia’s intervention has “largely achieved its objectives.”

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The real news - the battle for Syria and against ISIS is not over. It is their children, families, just as the youth of IS enter the conflict - that may die. This is not to suggest that children should fight or those who are young. It happened in Vietnam where many of the fighters were very young and so one never knew who was the enemy. Many were killed.

Children and weapons are shown in this video. It is a reality of this generation. It is sad when hate and conflict are passed from generation to generation.

War is a terrible thing and to have to fight for one's country is a grim reminder that freedom is not free. This not a war where not only men or women who choose to fight die. The battle line has been drawn across the homes and even graveyards where thousands have been buried. Some unmarked but not forgotten. When those homes ring with sound of gunfire, when that battle line is drawn down the center of a major U.S. city or in Europe - London - Paris - Berlin - perhaps people will finally feel realize - the price of freedom.

How do you feel about this? This was a shocking video for me and I almost did not put it up. I remember a time when I was at a 7-11 and saw a boy perhaps 14 with an Uzi and several others around him. These are hard times in America and Europe and refugees swarm the borders and within them are trained IS plotting to destroy and take down what has taken centuries to build. We need to be shocked. We need to be upset. We need to realize if we do not complete the battle on foreign shores we will be fighting it house to house in our own streets.
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Despite all the hype, there has been little or no progress in the situation in Syria. Russia is back in there, even the U.S. has sent in "troops" and the hospital in Aleppo has been completely destroyed. There is no cease fire and all negotiations for one have failed.

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