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Were’s the first aid kit

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    Posted: February 02 2006 at 8:37am
While your stocking up let's talk first aid and the coarse should sign up for ASAP. St. john's ambulance puts on some very good courses. Learn artifical resperation. CPR, basic wound care. Did you know that large realy scarry  wound's to abdomen can be closed simply by the way you support the body. If you run out of anelgiesic (asprin) you can make a tea from willow bark or aspen bark and it does the same thing. Fishing line makes a great stitch for wound closure. Rice water help's with stomack upset as does ginger wich also help relive the pain of arthritis.
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We're all talking bout isolating ourselves and staying home - but if one of my kids got sick (flu symptons), my first reaction would be to run them to the hospital.  Would that be the very worst thing to do??  Would I be exposing them and the rest of my family (through me) to this?  And would I get in to the doc anyway?  What an aweful situation.  If they weren't sick when we got there with it, they could be by the time we left...
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Take it from a nurse....dont' take your family to the hospital during a full blown pandemic.....that is where all the sick people go and just sitting in a waiting room is going to put you at great risk.

Call your physician and ask what your alternatives are. It really depends on where the pandemic level is. Be sure to wear mask, goggles, gloves and ear plugs if you go out.

Same thing with doctors office.

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should this unfold were every one is getting sick the hospitals will be gridlocked. Remember that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. As a perant your already a medical practioner. Don't be afraid to call the hospital doctor or nurse they'll tell you what to do. If you've all been exposed there's no turning back.  When symtom's are such that your considering the hospital your already infected. Never the less use basic hygene hand washing gloves eye googles, In a family love and support go a long way and hope spings eternal.
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HAS ANYONE LOOKED INTO ANY HOMEOPATHIC ALTENATIVES AS PREVENTION?
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dvdoll,

There is a bit of information here on natural treatments.  Not as much as I would like but there isn't a great deal of interest for it here and we have had issues with medical professionals.  Please see the thread in the medical interventions room about OTC's.

BTW: Just in case you were unaware...all caps is considered SHOUTING in the the cyber world.

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Thanks Sophie, I will check it out.  Sorry about the shouting I did not know. I am new to the cyber world
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No problem dvd...you aren't the first.  We were all new at one time.

Please feel free to post any questions you may have.  We have some great people here who are more than happy to help.  Some of this stuff is not only overwhelming but confusing as well.

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Originally posted by Ella Fitzgerald Ella Fitzgerald wrote:

 Be sure to wear mask, goggles, gloves and ear plugs if you go out.

 

Ella,

why  the earplugs? Can a virus enter the body through the ears??

 

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There is a great book that's been on the market for years relating to homeopathic treatments.  It covers just about every aliment.  It would be a great alternative to have on hand.  I bought it at the health food store.  Pick one up early so you can buy some of the items needed to treat the flu.  The name of the book is Back to Eden.
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Yes, your ear is an open area of your body. Typically ear wax helps protect the inner ear from pathogens from getting in to do damage but it is still a possibility.

I am going to use wax earplugs or cotton balls.

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We should all be open to anything that can help. And in our attempt to prepare we should be looking at compresses, bandages, triangle bandages,anti septic's and so on. If things get bad its nice to be able to help yourself. Broken collar bones present themself's as a droop in one shoulder when compared to the other. a simple slinge is a good fix for this common childhood affliction. I now mine will be bouncing of the walles should this occur. To judge if somthing is amiss you can sometimes rely on the bodies mirror The other side or limb to figure out the problem 

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The Proper First Aid Kit

Obviously, every home should have one, pandemic or not. But in looking around the web, I’ve examined a number of commercially available first aid kits, and I’m not impressed. If all you want a pretty box with some band-aids, Neosporin, and some gauze pads to handle cuts and scrapes, I suppose they are adequate. But in no way would I consider them suitable for a real emergency. And for the prices they are asking, you’d be better off building your own.

To that end, I’ve put together my recommendations for a minimum first aid kit. This is based on the items I used most often as a paramedic that do not require advanced training. Obviously, there are more items that could be added. Think of this as a starting point. And a first aid kit is not the same as your med-kit. This is the bag you grab when someone is injured or suddenly ill, and will use in the first 15 minutes of an emergency.

If there is interest, I’ll put together suggestions for a more complete medical kit later.

First, you need a carrying case. Tackle boxes work well for this, as do soft canvas bags with pockets. This carrying case should be light and durable, and large enough to organize and hold all of the items you need. Water resistance is a plus.

As far as the contents, I recommend:

Latex Gloves: These needn’t be sterile. They are for your protection. A bag of 50 is about $4. Keep 4 to 6 in the kit at all times.

N95 Masks: I keep 3 or 4 tucked away in my kit. One for me, the rest for possibly infectious patients.

Sterile Gauze Pads: 4×4’s are the most useful size. You will use these more than any other item. Have plenty of them on hand.

Kling roller bandage: 2nd most useful item. Have several rolls of 2 inch and 3 inch.

Cravat or Triangular Bandage: Buy one or you can make your own out of an old bed sheet.

Large Trauma Dressing: For when a 4×4 won’t do.

Paper Tape: Better than adhesive tape. Replace every year or two, as heat degrades them.

Ace Bandage: 2 inch and 4 inch.

Band aid Assortment: Not really needed in an emergency, but nice to have.

Alcohol wipes: Very handy. Wipe down that thermometer before you use it!

Hand Sanitizer: Small squeeze bottle. About 50 cents.

Thermometer: Inexpensive digital ones can be bought for about $4.

Stethoscope: Cheap ones are about $15.

BP Cuff: The battery operated digital ones are good enough. Manual ones are better, but do require a bit of practice to do it right.

Note Pad/Pen: Keep track of vitals

Bandage shears: Not just for cutting bandages. Can be used to cut away clothing.

Penlight flashlight: See in the dark, and check pupil reactions.

Ambu-bag/Airways: A bit expensive, but I won’t leave home without one. Sure beats doing mouth-to-mouth. About $50.

Cervical Collar: Foam collar stores easily and can be purchased for under $10.

Cold Packs: Not essential, but nice to have

Sterile eyewash: Generally in a squeeze bottle. Non-sterile is better than none at all.

Aspirin: To administer in the event of a suspected heart attack.

Tweezers: Nice to have, not required.

As stated, this is just a start. There are some items, like wire splints, that are nice to have, but you can do just about as well with a rolled up magazine/newspaper and some kling bandage. An emetic, such as syrup of Ipecac can be handy, but when used with the wrong type of poisoning (ie. Corrosives or petroleum products) can do more harm than good.

A pouch or two of a sports drink, like Gatorade, is a nice addition. Great for heat exhaustion, dehydration.

Someone, I’m sure, will point out the lack of a first aid manual. Frankly, you need to know how to handle emergencies before they occur. You won’t have time to look up something in a first aid manual while your patient is bleeding out or turning into a smurf. If it makes you feel better, though, add one.

Having a first aid kit is important, but if you haven’t taken a first-aid course, and don’t have a CPR certification, you are kidding yourself about your ability to handle an emergency. Contact you local Red Cross chapter or CERT program and see if they offer classes. CPR instructors are usually also available thru your local fire department.

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