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What can be done to save our pets?

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We have 3 German Shorthaired Pointers. We had 4 but our oldest who was also our first we had to put down in October. I trained her for hunting from the time she was a baby. She was our hunting companion and dear friend. Getting rid of the other 3 which we have also trained from puppies after what we went through in October is not an option. The 2, 3 year olds are our 6 year olds pups. These dogs have to run. So run they will. We have a fenced back yard Ĺ Acre. They will run there under supervision. Iím not going to be paranoid about bird droppings on the ground. If  I get that paranoid then I would worry about the mice, spiders, ants, bugs, Etc. that will still get into your house. They could have the virus on there feet. If you get rid of all your catís then there will be a mouse explosion like you have never seen. I plan on keeping my cats inside and putting lotís of mouse traps on the outside. If a cat getís out it is now an outside cat. Our dogís feet will be wiped off with disinfectant when they come in from outside. Our dogs are our children. If  I canít have my children then you might as well just shoot me. This is non negotiable. Period. Dead

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 11:01pm
Get a tent, the biggest you can find (used/new/whatever), pitch it, and cut the floor out of it.... instant outdoor shelter!!! and it allows the pet to have access to the grass/ground. Of course, the grass will die after a while, but at least it should be safer.
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Cindy, do you have a patio or runway? Something that could be covered completely from the top and wire-screened on the sides. Would give your dog access to outside and protect him and you.
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why not cover it with the tarpe?
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I was thinkin of a dog run in my yard with a TARPE COVER.  tHE FENCING CAN BE THE CHEAP KIND.   i THOUGHT IF i CLEANED IT DAILY WITH A DILUTED BLEACH SOLUTION IN A SPRAY CONTAINER.     i MIGHT PUT A TARPE BOTTON  AS  IT WOULD BE CHEAP AND EASY TO CLEAN.
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Muskrat, I say eat the fish rather than flushing them (if safe to do so)... and no, I dont think you are a bad person.
 
Fritz, I love the idea about the tarp.
 
I came across something a while ago that was also interesting... here is the link http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1106
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I have a very small dog and both he and i like going out of doors.  I have purchased sprinkler pipes and the glue for them to make us a covered area by the french doors but could move it to a slider.  Enough plastic to cover the top and net screening all the way down to the patio floor.  I plan on keeping that brick area scrubbed with bleach water to clean up after him (do that anyway) so we will have an outdoor area that will be inexpensive and useable.
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LOL
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Me too Miss Scarlet. I was originally thinking baggie booties for my 3 dogs but that is 12 booties 3 times a day = 36 booties a day x 7 days a week = 252 booties a week! x 4 weeks in a month+/- = 1008 booties a month!! x 12 months = 12,096 baggie booties for one year!!!    
I can not buy 12 thousand baggies!!!
 
Enter plan B:
How about I lay a tarp down on the grass, lets say 10' x 12' and hold it in place with bricks or large stones and then uncover for dogs to do their business, pick up said business, recover to protect grass/earth from birds, bunnies and all else, and done! Any thoughts?? I think my dogs are too old to train them to go inside on paper now. I tried and they just looked at me like "What the ^$$(^&^. ?" They are very good comunicators, I just wish I was as good. lol
C'mon we can solve this one. They're depending on us!   fritz :>}
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being the one that I am....
 
 
what would you do.....honestly...i have 2 beautiful cats and a pup....spinger spainiel.pom....2 cockatiels....hummm 5 aquruims...so if i flushed the fish to fill the tanks will water that the children and i can use am I a bad person or a good person....
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P.S. I am going to move this thread into the Pet section of the forum, as it seems more appropriate there than the Latest News section. Please let me know if you think differently.
 
 
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MizScarlett, I look forward to reading your plan! Big smile
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Originally posted by JaxMax JaxMax wrote:

 
In a an H5N1 pandemic dogs and cats must be eliminated. I love my dog, but humans outrank dogs.
 
 
Hey Jax  ...
 
I'm hoping you meant stray animals and animals who had H5N1 or symptoms or been exposed ????   Couldn't argue there...BUT  there are other options for pets ... although some measures are going to be expensive and difficult to maintain. 
 
And how about preparing for 3 Llamas and a baby one due in April !!!    Wacko   ARRGGGG !!!    I also have six Poms, but that's relatively easy!!!
 
I consider any ground that a bird could even  fly over to be deadly contaminated from potential bird poop  (it's everywhere, it's everywhere  !!! ).   And also any field critter could bring it in ...rabbits, field mice, deer, etc.  So I won't let any of my "kids"  (meaning animals only here; just them and me) set foot/paw on any such ground ... for at least two years !!!!   Unhappy
 
I'm working on a pretty elaborate set-up to house the llamas and to let them, my Poms ...and ME  Smile  run "outside "... sorta.
 
I've devised a plan that could be scaled down for smaller pets, and I want to share it with y'all ... but it's almost dark here ... gotta go feed said llamas.   And it's still a work in progress, so I really want input from you all.
 
I'll write later this evening.  Glad you started this thread !!!   Clap  
 
 
 
 
 
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Oh my.... how I hate to read posts like yours JM.
 
I have dogs.  Dogs that I consider to be my four-legged "children" and as such I have planned and prepped for them as well. 
 
Although I do acknowledge that we will each have to make our own decision if and when the time comes.  I would just beg and plead that all pet owners NOT turn their pets out to fend for themselves.  If that means euthanasia, so be it... it is a better alternative to dumping them into an unfamiliar and impossible situation.
 
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JaxMax, I sincerely hope that you do not need to shot your dog. Hopefully you can devise a plan that will prevent your beloved pet from having the chance to eat the birds. Please read through the forums of some of the ideas that dog owners have come up with. There are many dog owners here who really like their dogs too and have come up with some great ideas. :)
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I certainly do not want to eliminate my dog. But he will eat birds if given the chance. And it is undisputed that dogs and cats can contract H5N1.
 
I hope I could get someone else to shoot him.
 
I really like my dog.
He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.Proverbs 13:20, The Bible
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There is some good information throughout the forums regarding pets. I recommend looking in
 
 
for threads regarding care of our pets (Dogs, cats, etc).
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   Shocked   I have six house cats and one dog. I have had my cat Samantha for 15 years and to me she is a member of my family, as are all of my pets. They are like children to me. I would like to take every step possible to save them.
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I also have some concerns.  I have outdoor cats (I live on a small farm) I do not want the cats in the house and am also thinking about putting them in the garage.  I don't know if that will be worse for them than having them put down.  I also have a very old house dog that will need to go out.  I suppose we will take him out on a leash but am still worried as he will be down sniffing around.....  Will this be safe?
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Originally posted by JaxMax JaxMax wrote:

In a an H5N1 pandemic dogs and cats must be eliminated. I love my dog, but humans outrank dogs.
 
Of course humans outrank pets, however there will be no need to "eliminate" household pets that are quarantined safely inside homes. The only way they will be exposed is if we expose them, and in that case, we have already exposed ourselves...
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