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yes very true cuz ppl keep arguing and digressing from the true severity of keeping things like preps up.
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Oh my gosh this forum is amazing!
Hey everyone, I'm 24 and just learned about the bird flu in one of my Biology classes last fall. I've done my own research and I can't believe (well I can believe) we haven't been warned more about this. Or maybe I just wasn't noticing enough news until now. Now I have a daughter of my own and our safety is my utmost concern! Anyway these prepping tools are such a life saver. I'm grateful to any advice.
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Originally posted by heather0927 heather0927 wrote:

Oh my gosh this forum is amazing!
Hey everyone, I'm 24 and just learned about the bird flu in one of my Biology classes last fall. I've done my own research and I can't believe (well I can believe) we haven't been warned more about this. Or maybe I just wasn't noticing enough news until now. Now I have a daughter of my own and our safety is my utmost concern! Anyway these prepping tools are such a life saver. I'm grateful to any advice.
Thanks in advance,
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Welcome Heather! There is alot of good info here.

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Welcome Heather. A child sure does give one a different look at the world.

I hope this fourm can help you start prepping. The Mormons have just started selling a "Starter Pack" of food for about 27.00. In this pack it also has information on what you need to store.

The web site is www.ldscatalog.com.

I am not Mormon but I watch their site because they sell everthing at their cost.

If you have any questions please post them here because there are many people here that want to help others get prepared.

Good luck.
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Flumom are you sure you're not trying to scare people off?    Out of all the prepping sites and you post a link to a religious fanatic site?  I don't know about you sometimes Flumom. 
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Hey the Mormons are a little strange but they have been storing food since they arrived in Utah and almost starved over 100 years ago.

They have this storing food down. How do I know because a friend of ours is Mormon and they asked to use our dock at our business to distribute 10,000 5 gallon food buckets to one chuch. Guess what the buckets were unloaded and distributed in one afternoon. Four hours and not one bucket was left. These families store 1 years worth of food and many of them have 5-9 kids.

So no Albert I am not trying to link Heather to a religious fanatic site I am trying to get her to a place that might give her some information.

Check out Johnyray1's post about how much rice and beans to store. People are struggling out there as to how much to store for specific amounts of time.

I always use information of people who have been doing something for much longer than I have and the Mormons are the ones that have been there and continue to do food storage in a huge number and quantity.
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Albert, there used to be alot of info on storage, storage amount calculators, etc. on the provident living lds site. It is not there any more. I got alot of info from there when i was first starting to prep. Too bad they changed it. I don't see alot of useful info on there now.
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For buying canned food with an indefinite shelf life, here is a good place to start. 
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Ok Albert maybe you can answer this question. I purchased some of the meat from MEdepot and why does this can meat last longer than the can chicken or roast beef I purchase from Sams Club?

The cans look the same and the cans I purchase from Sams Club have a two year use by date.

I asked Albert but anyone can answer. Albert just jogged my memory about MEdepot and the can meat I purchased.
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I've personally never purchased anything from MREdepot as of yet, although the folks over there seem like good people.   I believe the difference in shelf life comes down to the cooking process of the meat, and then the timing and temperatures used during the canning process.  The Australian Red Feather cheese and butter apparently holds its' taste indefinitely, and they do in fact attribute that to their unique canning process.   The canned meat you buy anywhere else will be safe to eat after it expires, but it will lose a lot of its flavor and appearance over time.   There are companies that specialize in preserving the taste. 
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That lds mormon website is selling 6 cans of canned white rice for $30.00 with shipping.  Now, why anyone would want "canned" rice, I have no idea.   Since you can also buy 50lb bags of rice and beans at Costco for only $5.00, it seems like just another typical way for the church to try and raise money.    Canned wheat?  Confused
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I was fixing my boys flat tire today and realized that I will need another method of transportation when/if gas stations closed or gas becomes sparse.  We each have a bicyle but not extra tubing, nor do I have a hand pump to air tires.  So my next investment is to get extra tires, patches and a hand pump.  We also have a kiddy cart that can attach to a bike so this will be great if we have to transport supplies.

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Great idea Tadeo. I am going to check my supplies on the bikes too. I have been looking for a cart for the garden it can double for this also so I will now look with this in mind.

Great ideas people I just love AFT!
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 hello everyone since joining in 2006 i have  started buying everything we eat by the case and keep it rotated we have at least 3 case of everything we eat  my small pantry is no for things we use every now and then it can be a hassle sometimes but i have found that by doing this we use are preps and keep it rotated so we only prep what we eat it has taken a while but min stock of any one thing is three case i keep an eye on the meats in cans that is hardest item we have in preps to keep up with
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Albert I can tell you why they use canned wheat and rice. These people relly keep lots of food for a very long time for very large families.

Therefore, they keep everything in cans and even have shelving designed specially for these cans. It is amazing!

The Mormons symbol is a bee hive and they are organized as such and keep their food just like bees do in case times get bad.

Mormon beliefs are a little different but so are the Catholics and I was raised as a Catholic. We could all learn from these people they know how to prep.
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I just ordered two 35gm of Celox Hemostat.  This past two weeks one of my boys has had two play accidents, with one requiring a trip to the hospital.  Both accidents were some nasty cuts.  I know the military uses this stuff for minor to severe cuts, punctures, etc.  Anyhow, I figured this will be good stuff to have around the house in case of an emergency of if the shtf and treatment is not immediately available.  The cheapest place I found was this:  http://www.rescue-essentials.com/servlet/Categories?category=CELOX 
 
Also check their free items section.
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Thanks for the heads up I will be buying a couple of these too. I have a child and they can get hurt real fast.

I have worried about bleeding and this seems to fill the bill.
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Hi all,
 
- basic grains/beans/dehydrated fruit/veggies - one year's worth.  Other canned/comfort foods.  Beef jerky, nuts, coffee, chocolate, even hard candy for the kids.  Alfalfa seeds
 
- for furry family members - dog&cat food, kitty litter,
 
- heirloom seeds.
 
- water: 55 gallon water barrel .  2 others already used to catch rainwater
 
- for personal safety - gloves, goggles, n95 masks, rubber boots.
 
- for cooking: grinder, coffee press, weber grill (for wood cooking), camp stove for propane cooking, water purifcation tablets, huge water filter,  
 
- paper plates/bowls, disposable cups, forks, spoons, knives - my thinking is early on when we are not sure who is infected, we don't want to share utensils.  I don't trust myself to sanitize them well enough.
 
- bleach, bleach and more bleach, vinegar, ammonia, baking soda (you can clean almost anything with these things)
 
- medical kit - basic stuff thats in all kits, plus betadyne, peroxide, immodium, pepto bismol, benedryl, temporary cavity filler. 
 
- God forbid, but if  I ever have to set up a "sick room/quarantine" room, I have plastic sheeting, duct tape, disposable surgial gowns, gloves, masks, caps, stethoscope, bp monitor (we already had these),  rubber boots, small trash pails & liners, bed pan, disinfecting basins, disposable bed pads, lysol & bleach, CPAP machine (already have), separate thermometer, toiletries, medications, etc for sick patient. CPR manual, other bird flu manual I've found online.   Very clear treatment/disinfectant instructions.
 
- If I set up a sick room, I will set up a safe room for non sick family members, using the same ideas of plastic sheeting and duct tape, plus a positive air pressure blower, and stock that room with 2 weeks supplies.  This will put several barriers between the sick and well.
 
- medications:  multivitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Lipitor. 
 
- for power failures: hand crank radio, hand crank flashlights, solar power battery charger (charges laptop, cell phones)  Reusable batteries and charger.  Candles
 
- misc:  installed outdoor clothes line, zero degree sleeping bags, air mattress
 
Need to get: Tamiflu, antibiotics, epipen, gun/ammo, plywood for boarding windows?, alarm system, chainsaw or cross-cut saw (for firewood),
 
I have more stuff related to camping - in case we have to bug out in our camper.  A lot of the above plus book on foraging, wildlife first aid, bear repellant, snake bite kit, etc.
 
Need to get more of the following: toilet paper, papertowels, napkins.  Toiletries, razors, feminine items.
 
- back up "cheapie" prescription glasses (zennioptical)
 
This is all I can think of at the moment. 
 
Organizing it all is a different matter.  I have several months food on hand, the rest will be hidden.  I have a bin just for the sick room and adjoining disinfecting room, bags of goggles/masks/gloves in each car, first aid and bug out bucket in a location quick to get to.  I keep trying to figure out what goes where, because so many things will need to be divided and go in different locations - i.e., the sick room will be stocked with vitamins as will the safe room.
 
I have a "plan that I will type up and instructions on where things are and steps to take if there is an imminent threat.  Stress and lack of sleep can make a person foggy and forget what to do.
 
It may be overkill, but I am taking this threat very seriously. 
 
 
 
 
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