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The media is so controlled we are not getting the real news. Only three presidents during the course of one historian's documents for almost a hundred years were faithful to their wives. The affairs of John F. Kennedy and other presidents as well as their basic treatment or opinion of women was never under the scrutiny it is in this election.

The key issue is - if Hillary Clinton is elected what will happen to America?  This has been completely obscurred by a massively planned character assassination of Trump. The current polls do not reflect accurately who is ahead. It is an attempt by the media to convince people so completely that they will follow and vote by who CNN - Fox - NY Times - and ABC News predicts. These polls represent little more than a thousand samples out of 300,000,000 people.

We have no reason to believe that they are accurate.

A president should not be elected because of gender. If Hillary were male -she'd be in jail.

I don't like Trump. He is obnoxious - looks funny on camera - whines and is not a politician. However, I like even less open borders which will destroy our economy and jobs - a cold fish on camera who lies about real feelings for minorites, women, or anyone and is two faced and has been proved to lie hundreds of times.

It is a revolution. First they elected Obama largely because he was a black man and now Hillary largely because she is female and it will be "payback is a bitch" to the male gender for possibly the next 8 years. I have no doubt once the Democrats are in power, they will not leave. Most of it will carry through the rest of most of our lifetimes. I am not prejudice but you cannot manipulate the public by cleverly picking numbers of each race and sex for your cabinet and have it show you care about any of them. I do care about all races and it is reflected in my life - all of it.

It is likely - very likely - in the popular vote - that 50% or more do not like Hillary and for a good reason. If we can put aside the demonizing and lynch mob mentality for Trump - consider how the job and industries of oil, coal, and or working class will be devastated by an influx of foreign workers and the destruction of oil and coal jobs.

The Clinton Foundation was undeniably corrupt and with the Wikileaks - wherever they are from and have never been denied are mostly accurate - violation of the security of United States is an act of treason - and this has been done. They did pay for play and it will continue to happen in the presidency, should Hillary be elected.

Who will push the nuclear button? It is not likely to be Trump. But in a get tough - let's tell the whole world top secret information on how many minutes a president has to respond - she will order it to be pushed on Russia in a heartbeat.

Why do you think they are hustling doing nuclear shelter drills?  Putin thinks we will launch and we will. Is that the answer? All out global thermonuclear war?

I think not.  Kim Jong-un is bad with his tests but this could be a whole lot worse. As everyone sits in the comfort of their homes watching reality television and agonzing about what group isn't getting their rights, we will see foreign nationals - terrorists in our streets as they flood in from Syria to New York and blow it up. We should not discrimate again any group, but we should be sure any person coming into the U.S. is not an enemy to us and screen everyone.

America cannot survive another 4 years of Barack Obama medical care or foreign policy. This is not about special-group rights - this is about human rights - and survival.

If Hillary wins, the day after not a word more will be said of all this Trump drama. The blacks, whites and all races, will find their inner cities in anarchy with police being shot and racism at all time high. Not against blacks - against anyone who not of color.

It could become a police state as anyone expressing any kind of bad opinion is stalked, hunted, and killed.

Yes, Trump has been a sleaze. And this is not confined to the male gender. There are bad people among all races, religions, and genders. Perhaps there should be a bit more invesitigation on other affairs by other candidates than Trump.

Voters should focus on America and what will either help or destroy it. There will be no economic boom as we run out of money to help immigrants more than we do the hard working, starving, and struggling American citizens and our own military we need so desparately to defend us.

There could very well be anarchy in the big cities if we do not honor and appreiate those who protect and defend us- "not if - but when."

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with the MIGRANT thing,


the world is overpopulated..................

BRING ON THE BIRD FLU.......

or maybe this has alredy been decided.......

DEF CON 4  may all be planned.......

realisticly we need to depopulate ASAP 

And a good WAR / Pandemic is the only way
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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:



the world is overpopulated..................


realisticly we need to depopulate ASAP 

And a good WAR / Pandemic is the only way

The problem with depopulation by war is that if it involves huge numbers of troops, it kills young people. Out of all age groups, we need the young adult section of the population to be the most populous. If I were depopulating the earth, I'd be trying to get rid of anyone over retirement age, not young adults.

Along that line of thought, I'd use a nasty disease specifically aimed at older people to depopulate, though quite what that is, I have no idea.

It's a bit like that film where a comet is about to hit earth, and Morgan Freeman announces a lottery for places within survival bunkers, and that no one over the age of 50 would be entered into the draw unless they were particularly valuable for the future of the planet.
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A depopulating war will not single out one age group! The problem is there may be no one left to re-populate!
Buy more ammo!
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smells like ...... CHUMP....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.
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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

smells like ...... CHUMP....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



My guess is that the FBI found something on that laptop right away...remember, that was Anthony Weiner's laptop, which Huma may have used for email!  

I have hunches but will keep them to myself.   My gut tells me that the FBI did the correct thing.
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now to top it all we have Jaylo, strutting her BUTT all over ,

only in America.....lol

gorra love it Wink
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So we have a choice between a criminal Clinton or a sexist Trump. I'm still voting for Trump purely because of the nomination to the Supreme Court. The 2nd Amendment is at stake. Hillary has been outspoken about this issue too, even though she's recently changed her tune and says the opposite. Now she's telling everyone that she only wants to close the loopholes.

Here's Hillary's exact words.
“The Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And I am going to make that case every chance I get.”

–Private fund raising event in New York, New York, September 2015

This election is about more than sexist comments by Trump and nobody should be fooled by the criminal Clinton's.
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i have never lived in a country with a "gun culture",we have very strict gun laws here ,

a thing of which i am glad,

i dont and never will own a GUN ,dont see the point,

but then i dont live in a country where MASS killings seem the norm,

good luck  America,

hope you choose right.....

P.S has Hillary got a "Rap"sheet ?? love the way people call her a criminal,when she never faced a court,

is that Slander ??


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Most people have been buying guns for self-defense. Also, lots of people hunt and others simply like to shoot for target practice. Target practice is a sport just like soccer. Since you're so opposed to guns, you cannot possibly see the other side. Some students in Alaska carry guns to school with them in order to protect themselves from wild animals as they wait for the school bus in the dark of winter.

The mass killings are mainly amongst and between the inner city gangs. As far as I'm concerned they can keep killing themselves so we'll have less dope peddlers on our streets. Innocent people do get killed in the cross fire sometimes and those cases are sad. However,medical errors are estimated to be the 3rd leading cause of death in this country, so why aren't people talking about THAT?

Anyone who works for our government and not only deletes thousands of e-mails is a criminal whether they've been charged with a crime or not. Hillary did this AFTER she was subpoenaed.

Clinton and her campaign don’t dispute that she deleted these 33,000 emails. They argue that these were personal in nature, rather than work-related, and therefore were not necessary to turn over. The problem with this is that we may never know whether these e-mails were personal or not, now will we? The congressional subpoena was on March 4, 2015, and an employee deleted the emails sometime after March 25, 2015, three weeks later. Only a criminal would delete e-mails following a subpoena!

Now try to search on "dead people surrounding the Clinton's" and read some of that.

Just because Hillary hasn't been caught doesn't mean she's not a criminal. It's just a matter of time and I'm hoping that's just around the corner with the latest treasure trove of discovered e-mails.

It never ceases to amaze me how arrogant people from other countries can be with regards to the United States. We don't criticize your country, so why do you criticize ours? Maybe it's time that us hard working American's end our alliance with Australia and you can defend yourselves if/when the Chinese come knocking.
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Australia also has a black market in guns, so only time will tell. By the way there were an average of 91 gun deaths per day in America over a 5 year period ending in 2014 or roughly 33,215 per year. 38,300 people were killed in car accidents last year and 4.4 million people were injured. Should we ban cars?

These gun death statistics don't address the number of people who were saved because of guns.   

If you look at the following chart, gun deaths don't even show up although they likely make up a portion of suicides.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/03/researchers-medical-errors-now-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-united-states/

Maybe we should ban doctors and hospitals instead.
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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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Bugger. I just wrote a long post and then deleted it when trying to edit it. Sorry but I can't be bothered to write it all again.
Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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Same kiwi mom but I deleted,mine on purpose,

Don't want to upset the troll
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Same

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Focusing on the real issues.

Few politicians have histories of morality of fidelity in their marriages or personal relationships.

October 25, 2016

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/yoko-ono-i-had-an-affair-with-hillary-clinton-in-the-70s/


Los Angeles | Yoko Ono shocked reporters yesterday when she responded to a question concerning the presidential run of Hillary Clinton and the possibility that she could become the first woman President of the United States in American history.

The artist and widow of John Lennon, who is in Los Angeles to present a collection of cups and saucers she is exhibiting at the Museum of Modern Art, totally took reporters by surprise by admitting she had not only met the former First Lady at various times during a series of protests against the Vietnam War in New York in the 1970s but also knew her “intimately”.

The celebrity admitted laughingly to having “a fling” with her at the time and acknowledged her election “would be a great advancement for LGBT and Women rights in America” she added.

This is not National Enquirer. It is likely the reason why Hillary has so much support from the LGBT.  No one should be presecuted or discrimated against, but we should not make the rights for alternate lifestyles, transexuals, and women the cornerstone of our reason for electing a president.

This election has turned into a Jerry Springer affair with people punching each other and wrestling on the floor.  This is not reality television. We cannot sit back in America munching away on our food while much of the world has none and not worry about real life threats to our nation and national security.

Hillary blew it. It is that simple. The lies are legion. With knowledge and forethought she willfully violated the trust of all who relied on her to protect our country and should be tried and sent to jail. This certainly did not stop America from impeaching Bill Clinton for his lying to an investigation committee. She lied as well. It is an open and shut case.

Yes, Donald Trump has been abusive and said bad things. Yet the vast majority of the Iraq population has faith that he will be tough on terror and make America great again.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/11/01/need-strong-leader-trumps-popularity-high-among-iraqis.html


People in the shadows do not want to tell others they support him. They don't want to argue and fight or identify with his pouty face and locker room mouth.  But who will negotiate with Russia and keep us from having a nuclear war over Syria?

Who will drain the swamp and clean out political corruption that has existed even before 9-11 and shake down those who control our nation in direct violation of our democracy?

One thing I have learned in my elder years is you cannot live your life based on what others think or want you to do - even your own family and those you love dearly. Voters must find the courage to go with their gut instincts and not be fooled by generated polls which do not reflect the will of the American people.

We should take on as our motto the words from a song done by the Who.

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i agree AMERICANS must do what they got to do,and as i said before i understand the want /need to

 change the status quo ,

but here in Australia and in my country of birth UK, 

we dont have guns and we do have a health system that cares for all,

i do understand the need for farmers and such to have a gun ,

but to have no real checks on background on someone wanting not just a fire arm but one that  can 

do lots of damage and kill lots of people with ONE clip seems madness to me ,

we in the west do have an interest in the LEADER OF AMERICA,

if it Trump or Clinton thats up to you ,

and remember its always your best friends that tell you what you dont want to hear !!!!!!!!!!!




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your certainly in "good" company voting  for TrumpConfused

The Ku Klux Klan makes it official, endorses Donald Trump saying 'Make America Great Again'

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/1/1589543/-The-Ku-Klux-Klan-makes-it-official-endorses-Donald-Trump-saying-Make-America-Great-Again


these are the DEPLORABLES you hear so much about
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http://www.debka.com/article/25751/Clinton-and-Trump-offer-diverse-ME-scenarios

Clinton supporting "moderate rebels", regime change in Syria, bad US-Russia relations and "mixed"on Iran. Trump willing to sit down with Russia and China, show realism on IS try to keep some US influence in the middle east. 

On foreign relations I would vote for Trump if I had to choose between this "type" and clinton. If I was a US citizen I proberbly would be active in the Green Party-so I would not have to choose between "C' or "T".
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I know I'm going to regret this, but hey...

I don't mean to single you out, but I think you overestimate Trump's abilities, Josh. Stiffing contractors on his home turf with threats of legal action and an army of lawyers to bolster his fragile ego couldn't be any further removed from negotiating with foreign leaders on the international stage. His knowledge of global affairs is tenuous at best, and his one foray so far into the world of international politics (his meeting with Mexico's President) was anything but a success. Despite all his grandstanding on the subject, his much touted wall was barely mentioned when it counted. Like the bully he's shown himself to be on many occasions, he essentially backed down and scurried home with his tail between his legs, then pretended that he'd stood up to Peña Nieto at a Trump rally on his return. 

I'm not sure how anyone can support his strategy for defeating ISIS when he's kept it secret. Without anything concrete to go on (except that's it's probably tremendous, and we won't believe how terrific it is) he hasn't given me much confidence in his ability to take out a group where nobody else has succeeded. Real estate mogul hardly seems like a relevant qualification when it comes to fighting terrorists, especially in a region he barely understands. If you look past his admittedly impressive gift for self promotion, there doesn't seem to be much else he has to offer.

You know how turbulent the Middle East is, Josh. Based on what I've seen of his knowledge of international affairs, I doubt Trump could even point to Iraq on a map, let alone grasp it's religious, cultural and political complexities well enough to affect positive change. The man simply doesn't understand the way the rest of the world works.








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I am voting for Trump. No choice. Supreme Court, illegal immigration, Second Amendment leave me no choice. In addition, the corruption of the Dems is out there for all to see, thanks to WikiLeaks add others. Dems have made the USG corrupt.

To my mind, the choice is obvious and clear. Anyone but Hillary!
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isn't it interesting how Wilkileaks is doing everything it can to get Trump elected
they seem to have plenty of dirt on the Dems
but none on the Repub"s ?
really?
they're lily white ?

I used to have a somewhat favorable opinion of Assange
but his interference in the election and being so INCREDIBLY biased about it stinks to high heaven
a 20 year prison sentence is  in order
he is no  one's hero
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where is  Edward Snowden????  IN RUSSIA  

Wikkileaks !!!!!!....wake up Muppets 

the Russians  are controling Snowden

or am i just paranoid..?????



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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

where is  Edward Snowden????  IN RUSSIA  

Wikkileaks !!!!!!....wake up Muppets 

the Russians  are controling Snowden

or am i just paranoid..?????



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From here in NZ, Trump comes across as very "gung ho" and as JacksDad says, he has a gift for self promotion. But it's one thing to talk big and completely another to play fast and loose with people's lives and well being. 

Trump certainly implies that he will sort everything out, but how will he sort out Syria? He'll throw troops at it. How many troops will die as a result of him rushing in foolishly without due diligence?

Military Service personnel are real people, not some disposable asset like bullets.  I wonder how long the American people will put up with their troops being cannon fodder before they realise just what they've done by voting him to become president. 
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Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

From here in NZ, Trump comes across as very "gung ho" and as JacksDad says, he has a gift for self promotion. But it's one thing to talk big and completely another to play fast and loose with people's lives and well being. 

Trump certainly implies that he will sort everything out, but how will he sort out Syria? He'll throw troops at it. How many troops will die as a result of him rushing in foolishly without due diligence?

Military Service personnel are real people, not some disposable asset like bullets.  I wonder how long the American people will put up with their troops being cannon fodder before they realise just what they've done by voting him to become president. 


Kiwi, you're making assumptions about someone who you don't even know. Furthermore, why are you and Carbon20 concerned with an American election when you don't even live here? The two of you should pay attention to your own political elections instead of ours.
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Jacks Dad, I agree with you on Trump'slack of knowledge in foreign affairs. Clinton was the US foreign secretary and she was a disaster ! When I look at Debka's "shortlist" I can only hope Trump may be able to pull "the west" out of a dead end street. Clinton wants to speed up ! That will not end well !

The next US president MUST talk with Putin. Both Clinton and Trump do not make me very optimistic. 

A US president is not only "the leader of the US but also the leader of the west". This is a forum-so people can give their opinion. But when I look at Europe it is also political crises over here...we are all in the same boat.
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What happens in USA Affects the world ,so we ANZACS can and will comment on anything we like MATE.....SAD LITTLE MAN....
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Well said carbon20.
Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
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History shows us that the US presidency affects the world, so in that context everyone's opinion is valid.
It's that freedom of speech thing you constantly refer to.


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thank you Jacksdad Wink


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If Australian's and New Zealander's feel that the U.S. has influence around the world, then why don't they meddle with China instead? They have over 1.3 billion people to our 324.1 million. The Chinese are at their back door, not the U.S.

Try telling the Chinese what your opinions are and they'll stomp you out like a little bug and may yet anyway. After all, the rich Chinese will want their vacation homes, so why shouldn't they build them on the coasts of Australia and New Zealand?

It's all to easy for someone to have opinions and arrogance about another country when they don't live there.
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geez
back off Crabby

the US has its tentacles ALL over the world,we're an empire

of course people in other countries are going to have something to say about it
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I find him quite amusing.......
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Crabby by name, crabby by nature.

Calm down Crabby, no one's attacking you or America. Carbon20 and I are not being arrogant about your precious election, we're just enjoying the spectacle. Although there are other candidates standing, we only ever here about Trump and Clinton, and frankly you lot have a choice of the devil or the deep blue sea. 

Personally I don't care who you vote in. It's Trump who is making it so funny. He's almost a living parody of himself. I absolutely love his voice. I love the way he talks, his inflections and intonations are great. And I really mean that. In fact, I've found myself saying "it'll be great" and then inflecting upwards and repeating myself and I love it. 

As for the Chinese, yes they are closer to us, and there are plenty of Chinese in NZ, and plenty of Chinese companies buying up NZ ones (as they are doing all over the world) in order to guarantee their food supply by buying up the source of production. We have trade deals with them and so far, I can't see the problem with that. 

Crabby, I wish you well and I hope you're not going to get all upset about everything that's said about America on here. No one means it maliciously. Join and become a member and you'll see. 
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https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/2379 A list of crimes in wich clinton may be involved. 

https://www.rt.com/news/365299-assange-pilger-saudi-clinton/ Saudi Arabia, Qatar paid for IS and clinton. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRxnRgUeXAE&feature=youtu.be Eventhough trump http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton.html claims under his presedential time the US will not "strike first" at Russia the international situation is "bad" and the US elections are "a drama". 


Also in Europe the "old parties" have lost all contact with the voters. In the UK the conservatives may ignore the Brexit vote http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/nigel-farage-warns-untold-public-anger-after-uk-high-court-decision-deutsche-now-see. In Germany, Netherlands and France extreme right wing populists are expected to become the main party in 2017 elections. 

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Totally agree kiwimom ,couldn't have said it better,

Game of Thrones has nothing on this.....lol

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Fox is going to continue to lie about who is ahead until the last day. They are holding onto that 2% for Clinton despite the real figures Rasmussen

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton each with 44% support among Likely U.S. Voters. Libertarian Gary Johnson gets four percent (4%) of the vote, and Green Party candidate Jill Stein is at one percent (1%). Three percent (3%) like another candidate in the race, and four percent (4%) are undecided.

It is a dead heat. Mexico is hedging their bets and preparing for a wall as well as the end of NAFTA. Perhaps it is the CHUMP against the CROOK. You realize of course with all the politics and arms around people of color and alternate lifestyles, it may look very much like Tonto next to The Long Ranger in the valley surrounded by Indians on all sides.

The Lone Ranger says "Well Tonto, looks like we are in real trouble" and Tonto replies
"What do you mean we, White Man?"

We've heard the birds sing before the social justice warriors. Don't worry. Elect me and you will still get your checks, your social security, money for schools, women's projects, minority projects. No, no one will be deported and no more abuse from that terrible evil man.

Problem is, real abuse is having no money to pay for it all and coming back and saying "I did my best but so sorry - they had to cut all the programs and you all are going to starve and be homeless as I live in my rich house from the 100 million dollars Bill and I may with "pay for play" selling favors.

SJW (Social Justice Warriors) do not want to hear this. They are willing to forgive Hillary as long as their cause will win. It doesn't matter about the over all survival of America or who will pay for it.

There are things people say and things people do. The level of corruption, bribery, and violence are reaching an all time high.

More of the same for another 4 years is going to destroy America. It has been said when you are in a corner, do something no one expects you to do. The last thing, like when you are at a cliff's edge and hunted by raptors and jump. Lots of good movies like that. Well, it is when everything is locked up tight, you must gamble.

The media is lying to the American people. Their polls are wrong and if they call this one wrong, and they may have, they will lose credibilty for a long time.

We have endured 8 years of bad economic plans, bad health care, and nothing that worked to help the country.

Will anyone vote for the Chump?

Right now its dead on but most are under so much heat from the others, they aren't telling.

This is called - irony.

The press is not going to quit. They know that one more bad story on Clinton may cinch it. Over the weekend they keep holding on to that 2% - it's gone.

I won't be glad when this is over. Unless it ends right.

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sadley you right,

unfortunatly we are all still paying for the G.F.C ,that was only 8 years ago!!!!!!.......

bought on by the BIG END OF TOWN !!!!!.....

AKA the GREED of Real Estate people and Bankers.......

seems people have very short memories.........




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He won. Donald Trump has been elected president of the United States.

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Well as I said at the beginning of these

posts....GOOD LUCK and fair

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Ditto.  Good luck US.  You might need it.
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Thanks to our friends in Oz and Scotland!  

Indeed, I'm leery that Putin is licking his chops over this...

Newly elected presidents are often tested by foreign powers....China did this to George W. Bush, by shooting down and capturing a valuable electronic surveillance plane, stripping it of critical and secret technology.  

I could easily see Putin doing something after Trump takes the oath of office.  

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I've put up with the Muslim in Chief for 8 years, so it's time that the Dumbocrats are disappointed for awhile.

Sour grapes to all of you! HA! HA! HA!

To everyone who doesn't live in the U.S., kindly stay in your own countries!

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