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    Posted: April 16 2018 at 1:02am
DJ-World War Three was started with the France-UK-US (FUKUS)-group attack on Syria-april 14.

Why I consider it the start of another global war ? Russia had made very clear that any attack on Syria is unacceptable. 

The fact that the FUKUS-attack did little damage to Syrian targets maybe makes even more clear the real target was (the pride of) Russia. 

As was expected China, Iran now form more an alliance with Russia. Countries like Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia condemn the attacks. For Israel, Saudi Arabia it is not enough.

The FUKUS-alliance choose to: 
1-ignore international law
2-ignore OPCW investigations
3-their own parliaments

The "west"is very divided on Syria https://southfront.org/macron-claims-he-convinced-trump-to-stay-in-syria/. The FUKUS-group did take action also for domestic reasons. Trump, May and Macron do not have much support in their own country. 

In Syria https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-rebels-agree-to-leave-last-bastion-in-east-damascus/ "western backed terrorists" are agreeing to give up many positions. NW Syria is de-facto under Turkish control. 

With the build-up of forces from both pro-Assad and regime-change supporters plan "A" - a full scale invasion of Syria may be planned for the coming weeks. 

The basic-global-conflict is wether the US can be the only dominant global force or others can claim such a position as well. The price of energy-link to the US$ is one of the reasons for conflict.

In wars one of the causes of suffering is health related. In some wars most deaths were due to health-conditions-not the fighting itself. 

Yemen at present is one of the war/health disasterarea's. http://www.who.int/emergencies/yemen/en/

The Spanish Flu may have killed up to 50-100 million people at the end of World War 1. The war was one of the reasons this flu could kill so many people. In history there is a strong correlation between pandemics and wars. https://fsi.stanford.edu/news/civil-wars-and-global-threat-pandemics
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-16/putin-warns-global-chaos-if-west-hits-syria-again and https://www.debka.com/western-strike-on-syrian-chemical-sites-isolates-israel-against-iranian-russian-axis/ Russia and Iran working closer together since FUKUS-attack.

From the zerohedge article:
Shortly after US Ambassador Nikki Haley revealed that Russia would be slapped with a third round of sanctions on Monday for "enabling the Syrian government's use of chemical weapons in civil war," Russian President Vladimir Putin said that further attacks on Syria by Western forces, "in violation of the U.N. Charter," would send international relations into "chaos."

In a telephone conversation with his Iranian counterpart, Hassan Rouhani, Putin and Rouhani agreed that the Western strikes had damaged the chances of achieving a political resolution in the seven-year Syria conflict, according to a Kremlin statement. -Reuters

The US-led strike was denounced by Putin as an "act of aggression," and a "war crime" by Iran's Supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

“Vladimir Putin, in particular, stressed that if such actions committed in violation of the U.N. Charter continue, then it will inevitably lead to chaos in international relations,” the Kremlin statement said.




US President Donald Trump wanted to include Russian and Iranian forces deployed in Syria into the list of targets of the April 14 US-led strike on the country, the Wall Street Journal reported citing sources familiar with the decision making process.

According to the report, the Pentagon provided Trump with three main options:

  1. A powerful missile attack aimed at the alleged chemical weapons facilities of the Syrian government.
  2. Strikes on “a broader set of Syrian regime targets, including suspected chemical-weapons research facilities and military command centers.”
  3. “The most expansive proposal, which might have included strikes on Russian air defenses in Syria, was designed to cripple the regime’s military capabilities without touching Mr. Assad’s political machinery.”

President Trump and his team was considering to adopt the 3rd Scenario but Defense Secretary Jim Mattis pushed back, according to the newspaper’s sources. So, the “hybrid plan” of actions was approvided and then implemented on April 14.

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DJ-Israel attacked two bases in Syria-at least. One of them used by Russia. In reaction-or coincidence????-explosian in Golan Heights. 







DJ-Very limited news-certainly on the Golan Heights. Did Syria, Iran, Russia or others react to Israeli airstrikes ?
DEBKAfile’s military sources: The Sharyat and Dumayr airbases, which Damascus claimed were attacked, houses some of the Syrian fighter squadrons, including its Mig-29 and Sokhoi-24, that were evacuated from their regular sites for safety, ahead of the US, British and French air strikes on Syria’s chemical strikes on Saturday, April 14. Some units of the Syrian 4th Division and three brigades of the Republican Guards were also transferred to Dumayr. If the attack is confirmed, its most likely targets were Syrian air force and elite military units.
Israeli continues its military buildup along the Syrian and Lebanese borders, after another round of threats from Iran, Syria and Hizballah of retaliation for the Israeli air strike against the T-4 air base on April 9 and the deaths of eight Revolutionary Guards aerospace personnel in command of Iran’s Syrian-based drones. Direct threats from Tehran and Beirut intensified in the past 24 hours.  The IDF statement stressed that ground and air forces were placed on a high level or preparedness.
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https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/17-april-syrian-military-sources-denied-to-dpa-earlier-reports


DJ-Israel does consider Iran as a very serious risk. In its almost 70 years of history Iran may be the first opponant Israel can not deal with. 

Israel may be looking for some sort of support or understanding of its position both with the US and Russia. The US has outplaced itself to be a negotiating partner for Iran. 

To deescalate-in my opinion-the EU and Russia should talk with Iran and Hezbollah. Iran and Hezbollah forces should stay away (10 miles zone ?) from the Golan heights border. In return:

-Israel should stop its airstrikes
-The EU stick to the present Iran-deal

Israel could start a major conflict. Understanding the reasons for it can prevent further escalation. 
Diplomacy should end looking for military ways to deal with the Syria-conflict (or other conflicts).
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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2384-idf-iran-assembling-air-forces-in-syria-for-retaliatory-attack-on-israel, https://southfront.org/israeli-media-claims-iranian-forces-use-3-airbases-for-its-operations-in-syria/, https://southfront.org/syrian-forces-repel-another-israeli-missile-attack-reports/

From Hal Turner: 

Tuesday, 17 April -- Israeli Defense Force (IDF) sources said to confirm Iran has established air forces in Syria and are planning retaliatory attacks in Israel.

ISRAEL INFORMING IRAN THROUGH BACKCHANNELS THEY FACE OVERWHELMING CRUSHING RESPONSE IF THEY ACT.

IDF are briefing journalists now that they are aware of major strikes being planned by Iran, targeting cities in Israel.

There were indeed 3 strikes the other night that were attempted to be covered up, including that ammunition depot.

So it seems we have had 2 consecutive nights of Israeli strikes (yes ALL were Israel)

I am now in a position to confirm.

You know what this means: if the IDF thinks Iranian strikes are imminent they are not going to sit and wait on explosions in their cities.

They will pre-empt and pre-empt heavily!

They have done it in the past...

  • 6 day war, Israel preempted the Egyptian air force...
  • 7th June Operation Opera/Babylon Israel preempted Iraqi nuclear facility...
  • 6th September 2007, Operation Orchard Israel bombs Syrian nuclear facility...
  • The strikes on Hezbollah and Iranian positions are for the same reason, Iranian arms sophisticated hardware passing through Syria to Hezbollah to be stored in Lebanon.


If in a corner or they feel under threat credible threat, they will strike.


(DJ-Egypt and Syria once were https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_Republic-putting Egyptian forces in Syria could support Arab nationalism. Also Kurds and jihadi's do not mix with regular Arab forces and US presence.)


DJ-Again-I think Hal Turner is correct-Israel may start a major operation to try to push Iran out of Syria-even when that means the US has to save Israel from Iran/Hezbollah/Lebanon attacks. https://www.debka.com/escalating-war-of-words-pushes-idf-and-rev-guards-closer-to-clash-in-syria/:

The information now released, much of it available to DEBKA’s readers in the past, attests to the growing conviction among Israel’s strategic leaders that Iran’s Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) are on the point of a military operation to punish Israel for its April 9 air attack on the SyrianT-4 airbase, which left eight IRGC aerospace officers dead, including Col. Mehdi Dehgan Yazdeli. The IDF is finally leveling on the threat so as to prepare the Israeli public for what looks like an inevitable military clash with Iran.
A leak to the New York Times and Israeli media on Monday incorrectly defined the T-4 strike as Israel’s first live attack on Iranian commanders. In fact, the Israeli air force struck a group of Iranian commanders on a secret visit to Quneitra opposite Israel’s Golan border on Jan. 18, 2015, killing two Iranian generals, Mohammad Ali Allah Dadi and Abu Ali al-Tabtabani. And in the following year, on July 26, an Israeli rocket attack aimed at and missed another secret visitor to Quneitra, Iranian Gen. Mohammad-Reza Naghdi.

For now, DEBKAfile can report:

  • Al Qods chief Gen. Qassem Soleimani is leading the preparations for the first direct Iranian assault on Israel, not just by proxy. Soleimani is the overall commander of Iran’s Middle East warfronts.
  • Iranian air force units in Syria are gearing up for the attack.
  • Military Il-76 freight planes, disguised as Iranian Simorgh Air and Pouya Air commercial flights, are ferrying military equipment into Syria.
  • The IRGC air fleet is spread out in four Syrian bases outside Aleppo, Saiqal, Damascus and T-4 near Homs.

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DJ, There are always people making money out of wars. https://www.rt.com/uk/424392-may-husbands-capital-group/ That the PM's husband is on of them is shocking. Of course the FUKUS-attack came after a Saudi weapons buying-tour via France, Uk, US. Saudi Arabia is supporting a Sunni-minority in Bahrain, fighting a genocidal war-with very extreme health-risks-in Yemen. Part of the price the France-UK-US had to pay for the weapon-deals was in supporting Saudi influence in the Middle East (even further). 

https://southfront.org/saudi-arabia-claims-its-open-to-sending-troops-to-syria/, https://southfront.org/trumps-hybrid-plan-for-syria-gulf-states-force-and-mercenaries/. Saudi Arabia is the main sponsor of IS (Islamic State). The US seems to be serious in believing Saudi Arabia could provide an alternative for US troops in Syria. 


On Turkish position; Erdogan needs Assad to prevent a Kurdish State in East Syria. https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804171063657947-assad-syria-turkey/

Korea

DJ-One could claim US foreign policy was a succes. The US "push-for-war"convinced PM Moon of South Korea to have talks (Moon-Putin-Plan) with Russia, China-and at the end-North Korea. (For the rest the US only played a negative role there as well-putting up THAAD-anti China missiles-against the will of the incoming Moon-government.)

DJ-There was a plan "A" for an attack on Syria. It looks like plan "B" made clear the Syrian air defense was much stronger (again-like april 2017) than the "west" would like. The price for a major invasion will be very high. 
Still a US carrier group is on its way to the region. Israel seems to be testing for weak points in Syrian air defense. (Israel never have a plane shot down, it is always a bird, technical failure or pilot-error. Hezbollah/Iran tend to claim their targets in Syria are out of reach for western attacks. So-in the media-both Iran and Israel deny attacks that most likely were there.)
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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/syria-who-holds-up-the-opcw-investigation-in-douma.html DJ-"Rebels" quite likely to claim other "chemical attacks" soon-when the US carrier group has arived ? 

DJ-In my opinion Israel could follow the South Korea-"road". The US can not prevent a war with Iran, can not protect Israel-Russia is able to do so but under Russian terms. 

Russia is making preparations for plan "A" from the "west", a major invasion of Syria-war with Iran (and Russia). (DJ-Since this is about the multi-polar world instead of US dominance it is "the west" NATO, Gulf States/Israel, Austalia against the "East" Russia, China, Iran, Syria (Iraq ? Lebanon ? Turkey ? Pakistan ?)

https://southfront.org/us-missile-strikes-in-syria-throw-down-the-gauntlet-to-russia-how-will-putin-respond/ DJ-Much to long article with wrong conclusions-Putin makes a choice in wich conflicts he wants to be. Russia is not the only player. Iran, China-even Turkey-are main-anti western-players. 
(DJ-Erdogan has no choice-the EU is not waiting for this Turkey, to stop any form of "Kurdistan" Erdogan needs to work with Assad and Iran. Turkey needs Russian "Turkstream-pipeline, Russian tourists. The increase in Greek-Turkey tensions may be NATO inspired-to try to get a grip on Turkey. The Turkish elections in july will be on more power for Erdogan.)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-18/imf-sounds-alarm-global-debt-warns-united-states-stands-out DJ-Of course it is easy to blame China, EU etc for "bad trade deals" the real problem is the US spending over 4,500,000,000,000 US$ on wars since 2001 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/-killing almost 1,500,000 Iraqi's, destroying several countries with good healthcare, education, housing. 
(The only way Trump could "Make America Great Again" would be to stop the insane wars-for-oil that only make a very small group very rich at the cost of the rest of the planet.)

Another "False Flag" is in the making-the media is under control of those who make profit out of war. The build up of forces is still in progress-but it is a matter of days....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2TRzA2ezk The Jimmy Dore show on "the civil war"/western attack on Syria since 2011. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgFBMU_9UFM Today News-Israel may want to destroy Syrian S-300 air defense. Russia may use it to put pressure on Israel. (DJ-Netanyahu has a lot of contact with Russia-the US may be willing to go for a war with Iran but when such a war would destroy Israel as weell it may be time to look for alternatives.)

http://theduran.com/stunning-coincidence-chlorine-containers-from-germany-and-smoke-bombs-manufactured-in-salisbury-skripal-poisoning-found-in-syria/ NATO behind anti-Russia false flags ? Novichok patented in the US in 2015. (DJ-The west accuses Russia of all kind of crimes without much proof-any Russian reaction is seen as "propaganda"-this is not a diplomatic way of dealing with conflicts.)


http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/2408-earthquake-hits-detroit-mi-shakes-into-ohio-and-canada DJ-The US is becoming self-destructive. Fracking may have made the US oil-producer #1 but the costs-earthquakes-are much to high. Climate change will effect the US more destructive than it will-for the short term-damage Russia. Russian agriculture production may even increase (with more export to a.o. China) while US agriculture may decrease due to extreme weather. 
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