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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/india-launches-air-strikes-in-pakistan-major-attack HT is doing a good job updating the (US wanted-stopping EurAsian integration) India Pakistan "pre"war.

From https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377:
INDIA AND PAKISTAN: FROM HYBRID WAR TO HOT WAR?

This is by my very good friend Prof. Junaid Ahmad.

Junaid's credentials are unimpeachable. He is the Iqbal Chair of Pakistan Studies at the University of Leeds, UK, the Director for the Centre for Global Studies and Assistant Professor at the University of Management and Technology (UMT) in Lahore, a UC Berkeley Research Fellow in Islamophobia Studies, a Research Fellow at the Center for Islam and Global Affairs (CIGA) - Istanbul, and Secretary-General of the International Movement for a Just World (JUST) - Kuala Lumpur.

Here we go:

"Indian belligerence and repression has reached unprecedented heights. In the ongoing brutal and murderous occupation of Kashmir, India has killed tens of thousands and made life a living hell for Kashmiris who are sold the cruel joke that they are part of 'an integral India.' Kashmiris resist noviolently, have done so for decades, only to meet more lethal repression.

The recent bomb attack on illegally occupying Indian soldiers in Kashmir, not on civilians, in the Pulwana district of Kashmir served as the pretext for the fascistic BJP regime of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to whip up mass hysteria, panic, fear - and a massive social engineering propaganda scheme to manufacture consent for bloodthirsty revenge.

The Indian rulers, politicians and generals, as well as their servile court jesters amongst the intelligentsia, know that this type of bellicosity is the only means by which the BJP can possible prevent its predicted horrible loss in elections this year. This has of course meant an even worse form of totalitarian rule for Kashmiris, found anywhere in all of India.

And most dangerously of all, it has mean that that racist genocidal madman running India right now is not averse one bit in raising the stakes in waging war with Pakistan. The air raids deep into Pakistani territory undertaken by New Delhi is sending the message that all bets are off, and sadly Indian generals are as hawkish as Modi himself.

What is most scandalous about this entire trajectory of events over the past few months is that Pakistan's newly-elected Prime Minister Imran Khan has been virtually begging PM Modi to resume negotiations and talks, and has been rebuffed and humiliated by New Dehli every single time. Modi and the Indian generals have effectively made a decision that there will be no more diplomacy to 'resolve' things.

This signifies the most dangerous single moment in recent times: nuclear armed adjoining neighbours India and Pakistan moving from hybrid war to 'real' war."

I have been to BOTH sides of Kashmir - Indian and Pakistani. I totally subscribe to Junaid's analysis.

DJ-As a reminder China is a third party in the wider Kashmir-conflict. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War in 1962.
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From https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13089:

This is the DEFCON Warning System. Alert status for 10:20 P M, Tuesday, February 26th 2019. Condition code is Blue. DEFCON 4.

There are currently no imminent nuclear threats against the United States at this time, however there are events occurring in the world theatre which require closer monitoring.

Hostilities between India and Pakistan have increased measurably over the last few days as attacks have occurred between the two countries. While there are often skirmishes between the historical enemies, these new attacks indicate an escalation that has the possibility of spiraling. Although each country has made moves to try and de-escalate, military action indicate increased hostilities.

The order of major events are as follows:

India was attacked by forces which India claims are linked to Pakistan.

India retaliates by striking in Pakistan.

Pakistan has reportedly shot down two Indian fighters.

Pakistan has stated that it will retaliate for the bombing.

While India and Pakistan have fought wars in the recent past, and they have come close to war numerous times, this does not mean that war is inevitable.

Additionally, should war break out, it is highly unlikely that the United States will be involved. Russia and China, for their part, also have shown no sign of taking sides militarily.

If hostilities break out, it is likely to be limited. In the event of a nuclear conflict, it will not involve the United States.

At this time, The DEFCON Warning System feels it is prudent for the public to make itself more aware of the events occurring between India and Pakistan in the unlikely event that escalation continues. At all times, citizens are urges to learn what steps to take in the event of a nuclear conflict.

We will continue to monitor the situation.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/india-fighter-jet-shot-down-in-kashmir (with updates and some usefull comments-DJ nobody knows how things will unfold. HT trying to get sponsors with "special intel for subscribers only" has more to do with getting money than knowing facts. For most countries it is also monitoring and speculating on what scenario's are possible. )

DJ-A major question is how did "Pakistan terrorists" get into India and kill over 40 military. A speculation on "who gains" is that the CIA was involved-did bring in "fighters" from Syria/Libya-via Afghanistan. https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/02/27/589672/Syria-United-States-Daesh-deal-gold
Both India and Pakistan joined the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Work with Russia-Iran-China. The US goal could be to stop EurAsian integration (at all costs). The US has been involved with using jihadi's in the region from the late 70's (to disturb the situation in Afghanistan so the Soviet Union had to intervene in 1979 and get "their own Viet Nam")

Most likely Russia-Iran-China (RIC) are trying everything they can to stop further escalations. A major war between India and Pakistan would end their "dream/plan" to become the main global player. https://www.rt.com/newsline/452528-china-india-pakistan-restraint/ (DJ-Both Russia and China may have means to get control over India/Pakistan weapons/communication. Iran did get control over US drones in Syria-may be a major Electronic Warfare (EW) partner as well-but not be able to destroy missiles at launch in India or Pakistan. RIC may try to "enforce peace" as a last means-since RIC will loose most in a nuclear conflict.)

DJ-Even when "the situation calms down" between India and Pakistan "RIC"
will get more hostile towards the US. https://sputniknews.com/world/201902271072782784-usa-maduro-venezuela-cuba-nicaragua-russia/ To speculate further; RIC may seek ports in Latin America, increase military presence (maybe even all the way to the US-Mexico border ?).

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201902271072784063-kashmir-india-pakistan-warpanes-shot-down/, https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13087 (and many more) the best for the moment is to try to stay informed. A worst case scenario could be "very fast escalation with nuclear weapons from both sides involved"-the bad thing is that such a scenario could get real "any minute" when "cool heads do not get control" soon.
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https://sputniknews.com/asia/201902271072784063-kashmir-india-pakistan-warpanes-shot-down/ and https://www.rt.com/news/452536-india-downed-pakistan-aircraft/
https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13087&sid=078c6ea8a2a5ddec114ad86b33c447cf&start=70 trying to get an idea of what is happening.

From Hal Turner; https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/two-india-fighter-jets-shot-down-by-pakistan:
Intelligence sources confirm to me directly this morning that the internal deliberations in BOTH India and Pakistan have arrived at THIS:

"Our region doesn't need deescalation. It needs a clear winner and for the other side to shut the ***** up for a hundred years."

So there you have it. This is the internal "consensus" on BOTH sides.   This situation does NOT appear to be cooling off AT ALL.

DJ-When both India and Pakistan believe they can start and win a (nuclear) war "the world is in a nightmare-scenario".

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/02/26/indian-air-intrusion-night-25-26-february-2019/, https://southfront.org/indian-air-force-used-israeli-made-heavy-guided-bombs-in-its-attack-on-pakistan/
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https://southfront.org/brief-overview-of-pakistani-indian-conflict-on-february-26-27-map/,

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/02/tit-for-tat-bombing-by-india-and-pakistan-could-escalate-towards-a-nuclear-war.html

DJ-https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/free-radio-archive and https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1100908751727616002

My impression-no real further updates-yet. In a best scenario de-escalation. In a worst case scenario just a pause.

Modi-India-is in an electioncampain and could use this conflict to get support. There seems to be no evidence of Pakistan being behind the bombing of Indian military-killing up to 40/45. In Pakistan view it was either an Indian false flag or Kashmir people rising up.
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RT on the role of the US and China in the Pakistan-India crisis. https://www.rt.com/news/452627-india-pakistan-conflict-spillover/:
The conflict has also put the US and China in a difficult position, as they both have vested interests in the subcontinent – and in countering each other.

China’s dilemma

Beijing and Delhi have frequently butted heads in the past, among other things about the Aksai Chin region of Kashmir claimed by India but controlled by China since 1962. China has developed a military alliance with Pakistan since the 1970s, with Beijing currently one of Islamabad’s major trading partners and the largest supplier of weapons.

This has led some Russian scholars to speculate that the US might tacitly approve of the current conflict as a way to keep China away from building up its maritime strength in the Pacific.

“The US is interested to have China get involved in a maximum number of conflicts,” Aleksey Kupriyanov, a researcher at the Moscow-based Institute of World Economy and International Relations, told RT. “Any conflict would slow down Chinese economic growth, which would mean less danger for the US hegemony in the Pacific.”

Kupriyanov believes China will try not to interfere in the dispute, balancing the relations with its old ally Pakistan and India, seen as an important new trade partner.

Smruti S. Pattanaik, research fellow at the Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses in New Delhi, also believes China will not meddle, but said Beijing could use its influence to make it clear to Islamabad that terrorism will not be tolerated.

“At the moment de-escalation is not plausible. For any de-escalation Pakistan has to take visible action against terror groups,”Pattanaik told RT, referring to the jihadist Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), which India accuses Pakistan of harboring.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/pakistan-moves-t-e-l-s-from-storage-nuclear-tipped-shaheen-iii-missiles
DJ-If India would go for a large scale invasion of Pakistan (not very likely-what would be the goal ?) Pakistan could be forced to use it nuclear weapons.

DJ-Both India and Pakistan have a lot to loose by further escalation. A major war will bring major loss of live-even without nuclear weapons. Other countries in the region want de-escalation. (Most likely even Saudi Arabia-main sponsor of Islamist-radical in Kashmir do not want to see the oil market and infrastructure of Pakistan and India destroyed. Pakistan in many ways is an ally of Saudi Arabia-not in the Iran question-and is a main transport route for KSA oil to China. )

Further good info/discussion :https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=56b8112c309973749c061a5a42730090

https://southfront.org/india-and-pakistan-on-brink-of-all-out-military-conflict/

DJ-Not all the "news" in these situations is fact. Propaganda and rumours mix with made up stories from "intel on the internet". The most likely best picture one can get is by trying to follow several sources (Press TV-Iran, RT/Sputnik Russia-both are in the region will pick up communication from India and Pakistan.)

Korea https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/02/trump-sticks-to-sanctions-us-north-korea-summit-fails.html The US did break plans from the july 2018 meeting https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377 John Bolton (and Military Industrial Complex) do not want peace for Korea. Korea's go their own way.
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Good comment on the position of Pakistan (in between Iran and India) from https://southfront.org/india-and-pakistan-on-brink-of-all-out-military-conflict/:

Something is fishy about the dual terror attacks in Iran and India-controlled Kashmir. Both attacks use the same method and apparently the type of explosive is similar.
Terror attacks in Iranian soil which was originated from somewhere in Pakistan have happened before and Iranian officials asked Pakistani counterparts numerous times to pay attention to the border. After the attack Iranian officials spoke with a tone that I never heard from them, issued warnings of taking the matter into their own hand if Pakistan doesn't do anything, the rhetoric calmed down quickly as soon as they met with Pakistani officials in Tehran, but for India the situation got worse.

What makes these 2 attacks more suspicious is the timing (one day apart) and in the wake of Saudi clown prince visit of Pakistan. To me it seems the attacks were planned to push Pakistani government to the arms of Saudis (which means Americans) even more by deteriorating the relations between Pakistan and it's 2 big neighbours. Pakistan already has a lawless border with Afghanistan and new hostilities with Iran and India would undoubtedly make it's leaders extremely nervous. The stage was set beforehand by cutting US military aids to Pakistan which resulted in deficit and economic hardship. Seems by creating financial and security concerns for the new Pak PM (who started unfriendly towards the US but I don't know about him enough to be sure if he's genuine, I have my doubts) they try to push them to Saudi/American and away from Iran/China.
The situation with Iran seems to be mended (Pakistan declared they'll fence the 950km border with Iran and monitor it more actively) but with India it's another matter. It's amazing how people think Nationalist Hindus are peaceful because, duh, Hindu! In reality nothing is further from the truth. New India after it's independence started a few wars of conquest and devoured a few countries/states/principalities aside from their 3 wars with Pakistan. The Modi government is very sectarian in nature and rabidly anti-Muslim, the situation in Kashmir is worse than ever and let's not forget their last year adventure in border with China (sending troops to stop a road construction inside another nation's soil). If you start that sentence with I___ instead of India, it will be indistinguishable from Israel, quite telling.

So far Pakistan presented the world with evidence for their claims and acted mature by calling for dialogue and declaring they'll release the Indian pilot to show their goodwill, something which India didn't in all cases.
OTOH, Pakistan is not without it's own faults and shortcomings. Pakistan army has a mind of it's own and not always follows the country's civilian leadership. It's intelligence agency is under control of army and has a track record of dealing with extremist Wahhabi and Sunni groups. Murdering Shi'as in Pakistan is frequent and so far the various governments were unable (or unwilling) to stop it.

Iran played it's part to bring India and Pakistan together (i.e the Peace Pipeline, a project to bring them closer by sharing an energy lifeline which went all the way to Iran-Pakistan border but now is dead because Pakistan cancelled it under US/Saudi pressure. Iran-Oman-India pipeline replaced it but unknown if comes to fruition). Cooperation between the 3 countries along with China could bring prosperity, peace and wealth to all, alas Saudis and US has too much influence on Pakistani politics and the recent plot and it's result (even more Saudi influence) spells disaster for all, including Afghanistan.

Let's hope cooler heads prevail and these 2 nations with common blood and history can address their artificial differences. Stupid disputes, courtesy of Britain, like always and anywhere the British were involved in plotting a border.

DJ-The US-Pakistan relationship got in a crisis recently, the US-Saudi relationship did not yet break (although since the US became oil producer #1 the relationship with KSA did change-KSA=#2, Russia#3 in oil-production). Again-the only "super power" winning by the Pakistan-India crisis is the US. The US does want to stop EurAsian integration-at all cost-even if it means war between two nuclear states in south Asia.
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DJ-For the moment de-escalation in the India-Pakistan crisis.

Further background:

https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/iaf-balakot-airstrike-abhinandan-geneva-conventions-5605717/

https://kashmir.liveuamap.com/

http://theduran.com/domestic-posturing-or-true-escalation-analyst-fears-new-kashmir-incident-prelude-to-global-conflict/ from there a (NZ) comment:

This hostility between India and Pakistan; is completely a construct of the West. Firstly, the British were resently of losing India in 1947. As a result, they were determined that India; would never no a day of peace. The formation of Pakistan and East Pakistan (Bangladesh); would be the result. Between India and Pakistan; Kashmir would be the flash-point.

During this period with the arrival of the US, and its “Cold War” objectives; a state of war would be artificially induced, to sow hostility on the Asian Continent, with the hope of weakening the Stalinist Soviet Union and China.

Let’s cut to the chase. Since the 1979 Iranian Revolution; the US lost a vital transit point to the underbelly of the Soviet Union and now the Russian Federation.

The result was a US CIA insurgency begun in 1979; to enter and disrupt Soviet territory, through Afghanistan. At the time, Pakistan was a client State of the US; under General Mohammed Zia-ul Haq. Cooperation between the US CIA and Pakistans ISI; was central to the US Military Regime’s geo-political plan.

Today, terrorist forces on behalf of the CIA and rogue remnants of the ISI; continue to carry out killings in Kashmir and India, in order to maintain hostility between India and Pakistan.

Unfortunately Pakistan under Imran Khan, is doing itself a disservice; by refusing to spell-out the causal link between terrorist acts in kashmir and the CIA, which refuses to go away.

In the case of India, its Prime Minister Narendra Modi; is a two-faced puppet of Washington’s Military Industrial Complex. The US is using Modi and his Hindu Nationalist ruling class Elite; to play off India against Pakistan, in order to weaken efforts by the Russian Federation, to unite both countries in a future Eurasia.

From down here in Aotearoa/New Zealand in the South Pacific; that observation can planely be seen. But, it’s the US controlled Corporate warmedia, that is deliberately drowning out the voices of people in both India and Pakistan, who know what’s going down.

One is sure that the Russian Federation, knows what’s going down but; they also aren’t spelling it out. As the glue that’s drawing Nations from the Middle East and South Asia closer together, Russia is still the prime target of the US Military Regimes determination to squash Eurasia. Kashmir is merely a dispensible bloody side-show on the road of US Imperialism’s eventual demise.

DJ-By now all countries in the region are loking at the reason and timing of this crisis. KsA "crown prince"MbS visit to Pakistan-with the promis of major investments, the India elections with Modi not in a very strong position.

Also after Turkey "slipped out of the US-family" there was a coup. Pakistan turning to China (China-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor) was waiting for a US response.

DJ-In my opinion there could be another possible crisis after this crisis. Pakistan and India will have talks-Russia-Iran-China (RIC) will do everything they can to keep the EurAsia-plans going. With investments, oil but also "pressure" to make clear they do not accept such a crisis in Asia.

Even without very clear proof the present crisis has US fingerprints. "US interventions spread chaos around the globe". Most likely RIC will coordinate their foreign policy further-not only in Asia but also in Europe, Africa and the America's.

China's slogan is "make trade not war" mixed by pragmatism; when you can reach your goals in a peacefull way why make war. At the end of this episode RIC may become the most dominant factor in the world. India has to accept China as the main Asia-factor-and deal with it.

Modernization in India's economy-with still internal bordercontrol and export tariffs inside India, closing the door for outside investors, is India's main target-not Pakistan.
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https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/03/01/589863/India-Pakistan-Escalation,

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/pakistan-india-update-march-1

https://kashmir.liveuamap.com/

DJ-Reports of shelling and "rebel" activity-not a good sign.https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13092&start=30-https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1101507604357005312:
A consensus has developed within Pakistani circles in last 24 hours that even if Pakistan releases Indian pilot, some kind of Indian military action is still expected.

Threat of a possible Indian missile strike in Pakistan is still there and will grow once pilot is released.
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Very serious escalation due to India attacks on Pakistan positions. https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/india-opens-sudden-artillery-attack-on-pakistan-ferocious-fighting-ongoing-10-dead-so-far (DJ-already hundreds of people killed in fighting-very bad news!)

https://kashmir.liveuamap.com/

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/452461-india-pakistan-showdown-terrorism/ (The US is-via Saudi Arabia funding Sunni extremists in Pakistan to fight against Iran)

https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13093&start=80 (US is backing India, China is backing Pakistan)

DJ-There is limited confirmation of the Hal Turner updates. https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/03/opinion/pakistani-deep-state-miscalculates-on-india/ and https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/02/article/kashmir-korea-iran-venezuela-hot-cold-hybrid-war/ Was Pakistan wrong in trying to talk with India-is Modi in an election campain need for a victory ? Is the US using this "oppertunity" to stop Russia-Iran-China ? If that is the plan the outlook is very "dark". RIC will not be stopped by India-Modi and the US.
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https://sputniknews.com/asia/201903021072886797-modi-oppposition-pakistan-speech/ (DJ-Basicly-If you do not join me you are helping Pakistan.)

https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13093&start=90

DJ-There have been no recent updates on https://kashmir.liveuamap.com/, https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/india-opens-sudden-artillery-attack-on-pakistan-ferocious-fighting-ongoing-10-dead-so-far latest is 6PM EST. (There are newer updates now-situation worsening further.)

DJ-At best this "no new news" may indicate India wanted to punish Pakistan in a major attack-and that was it. Revenge.

I do think there is more. India may want to move into Pakistan-held parts of Kashmir-wich would be a worst case scenario. Unacceptable for Pakistan-but also unacceptable for China.

From https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/02/article/kashmir-korea-iran-venezuela-hot-cold-hybrid-war/:

Kashmir is a crucial geostrategic prize. Assuming India would ever own it all, that would represent a direct bridge to Central Asia and a border with Afghanistan while depriving Pakistan of a border with China, thus nullifying to a great extent the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), one of the key projects of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).

If Pakistan ever owned it all, that would solve the country’s worries about water security. The Indus River starts in the Himalayas, in Tibet, and skirts through Indian-controlled Kashmir before entering Pakistan and running all the way down to the Arabian Sea. The Indus and its tributaries provide water to two-thirds of Pakistan. New Delhi has just threatened to weaponize the flow of water to Pakistan.

DJ-the geo-political aspects of the Kashmir conflict-and further the control of water in a major part of Asia-via the Himalaya's-make this conflict a nightmare. China can not allow India to disturbe a balance of power in the area. It is not only the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor and control over Afghanistan that the present conflict is on.

A large scale invasion of India forces into Kashmir may force a Chinese reaction like the Chinese reaction in the Korean War. Russia and China most likely are in the same position at this point. Though they do want to avoid further escalation as good as possible.

If India is not willing to have talks with Pakistan but want to take over a major part of Kashmir China may have to change the strategy. https://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-host-indo-pak-peace-talks/5670089, https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/03/01/turkey-has-a-major-role-to-play-in-a-kashmir-peace-process/

There was a meeting of Russia, India and China recently-but when India used that oppertunity to fool Russia and China there will be a price to pay. https://www.mea.gov.in/press-releases.htm?dtl/31079/16th+Meeting+of+the+Foreign+Ministers+of+Russia+India+and+China+in+Wuzhen+February+27+2019, https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/amid-kashmir-crisis-russia-and-china-join-india-in-statement-condemning-use-of-terror-for-geopolitical-goals/, https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201902271072810815-russia-india-china-trilateral-cooperation-expansion/

https://india.liveuamap.com/en/2019/1-march-fighter-jets-hover-over-islamabad
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Based on https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13104 and Hal Turners latest update;

-News blockade
-Also the military action may have ended

DJ-We may have been very near a nuclear war. Peace !
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DJ-Some more backgroundinfo on the India-Pakistan-Kashmir crisis;

https://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2019/03/update-on-events-on-india-paksitan-loc.html and https://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2019/03/urgent-news-out-of-pakistani-controlled.html,
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201903031072909980-india-decoy-jets-terror-base-pakistan/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siachen_conflict

DJ-Maybe in retrospect we may learn how close we were to a nuclear conflict. There are some indications that India was planning a "major operation" (invasion of Pakistan held part of Kashmir in "self defense"maybe backed by Israel/US). Pakistan would then be forced to use "all they have" to stop such an Indian attack. (In a military sense India is (far) superior over Pakistan.)

The most likely reasons India did not invade (yet);(based a.o. on https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13104)

-Modi PM of India did "show strenght" in his electioncampain
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Pakistan_gas_pipeline India needs energy from Russia and Iran (and those countries needed de-escalation and cooperation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation
- China (a.o. most likely Turkey, Saudi Arabia/Gulf States etc. maybe also other Muslim states in Asia-Malaysia, Bangla Desh, Indonesia) would not accept such a major Indian operation.
(DJ-The relationship between India and China is "not the best". An Indian attack on Pakistan would be an attack on the idea of China leading EurAsian integration-and therefor a vital threat, unacceptable, for China.)

The Kashmir-conflict involves THREE nuclear armed states, not only India and Pakistan but also China. The China-India border is in the "third pole"Himalaya's-basis for most of Asia's 4 billion people water supply.

R-I-C (Russia, Iran, China) most likely will put this conflict on the top of their agenda's. The Kashmir-conflict needs an acceptable-for-all solution if there is to be a real EurAsia integration.

The US role will be limited. What the US had to offer, energy and weapons, most Asia countries will get from other Asian countries under better terms. (The US could be used to keep the competition "sharp"-but both in weapons and energy the US simply has no good offers any longer.)

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10156982253946678 further background on the Kashmir conflict-the Pakistan support for jihadi's pushed the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan and was a "secret army" against India since 1947. The jihadi's are a "monster"created by the ISI but not under (much) control of Pakistan-linking Afghanistan to Kashmir the jihadi's are a major risk for Pakistan as a country.
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From https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377:
Beware the young 21st century Ides of March. The Exceptionalists are itching for another war.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/battles-resume-after-india-submarine-intercepted-by-pakistan-navy, earlier;
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/large-us-military-gear-build-up-begins-in-romania-why

https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13092&start=40 and https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13104&start=20

https://kashmir.liveuamap.com/

https://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2019/03/trump-to-terminate-india-trade-benefits.html

https://southfront.org/mike-whitney-what-really-happened-in-hanoi/

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Nuclear-Winter-India-Pakistan-War-Could-Kill-2-Billion

DJ-I did read someone's comment that "a war would not go nuclear fast". I think this idea is not correct. The most likely reason India did not further escalate/invade was "outside pressure". That pressure could involve long distance missiles-even from Russia.

If one of the reasons for the situation is Modi wanting to get reelected-with the elections in April-and Modi wants to show "strenght"-we may not be out of a major problem yet.

Most likely Russia-Iran-China and a lot of Muslim countries do want India to have talks with Pakistan. India needs oil. The bad aspect of this could be India needs a victory fast in any conflict.

There have been some (not fully proven) reports of small scale nuclear weapons being used in Iraq in 2003 (neutron bomb by the US against Saddam Hussein's republican guard on Bagdad airport during the US invasion. Also some "stories" on a bunker-buster nuke in Yemen by Saudi Arabia.)

Making nuclear weapons "easy to use on the battlefield" makes the usage (for a fast victory) more likely.
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This seems to be a move to de-escalate the India-Pakistan tensions.

Pakistan detains relatives of JeM militant leader
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EdwinSm, I (DJ) think Pakistan is trying to de-escalate as much as they can. Problem is that they do not control (Saudi (and US ????) backed) "rebels"-especialy those already in (Indian part of) Kashmir.

Modi wants to get reelected that is why: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-05/slippage-continues-india-resists-trump-everything

More alarming is:https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13104&start=20 (with link to https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/headline/pakistans-threat-of-massive-retaliation-foiled-joint-indo-israel-attack-official-sources/)

The picture I (DJ) am getting is that India was preparing for major attacks on Pakistan. The main reason it did not take place is "the price getting to high".

(When India (maybe with help of Israel ?) would attack nuclear/military facilities in Pakistan Pakistan could react "with everything they had". I (DJ) guess that China played a major role in it as well-if the Pakistan claim of Israel's involvement is correct this nightmare has FOUR nuclear states involved !-you can not make these kind of scenario's up-terrible !)

https://kashmir.liveuamap.com/
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Since worldwars are wars for control over resources, energy good article;
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-20/mapping-countries-most-oil-reserves Venezuela has a lot of oil-most of it is already under Chinese contracts. Russia has military advisors in Venezuela, there were rumours on Turkish, Chinese military. Most likely Iran may have cyber warfare specialist in Venezuela after the "power cuts" (most likely caused by US cyber attacks-like the Stuxnet cyber attacks years ago against Iran.)

https://www.globalresearch.ca/bloody-easter-sunday-sri-lanka/5675258, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-23/isis-takes-credit-sri-lanka-attacks-were-retaliation-new-zealand-mosque-massacre,
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-22/how-cia-allies-helped-jihadists-syria-french-covert-ops-expert-exposes-new-details

DJ-I am not on this forum to get popular, my views may be "inconvenient".
Since Sri Lanka is moving towards China most likely-just like the terror attack that caused tensions/almost war between India and Pakistan the US, NATO has its fingerprints allover these attacks. https://www.scmp.com/topics/china-sri-lanka-relations, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation#Dialogue_partners
The US goal may be to destroy cooperation between Asian states, divide and conquer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule).
Since the US can not afford an open war with Iran AND China AND Russia AND North Korea (AND Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba etc.) IS and Al qaïda were created by the US against those countries. Only the strategy is failing.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/23/us-toughens-stance-on-iran-ending-exemptions-from-oil-sanctions

DJ-The US telling Turkey, China and India to stop buying oil from Iran "or else" is pretty insane.

Also in the news is a joint navy drill of Russia, China and India. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2111231/drills-russia-put-chinese-navy-test-unfamiliar-waters. Also coming days meeting of Putin and Kim (NK) in Vladivostok. https://www.rt.com/news/457316-putin-kim-meet-25-april/
(The US telling South Korea (and Japan) to stop importing Iran oil may be opening the market for Russia. (DJ- Russia could import oil from Iran and "export Russian oil" to Japan SK)
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Will the US go for another "false flag" excuse to start a war against Venezuela (to grab the oil now-partly under Chinese contract control) ? https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/05/venezuela-coup-failure-necessitates-a-new-policy-bolton-the-stache-is-pushing-for-war-.html
and https://www.rt.com/news/458223-maduro-thanks-army-leads-march/

The US created al-qaeda and IS against Russia-Iran-China. https://www.rt.com/usa/458285-blumenthal-trump-alqaeda-franchise/ Most likely 9-11-2001 was a US made false flag-against US citizens-as an excuse to get "global control".

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-02/china-and-russia-whoopin-uncle-sam-his-own-game and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-02/china-and-russia-whoopin-uncle-sam-his-own-game

The long-term US strategy is a disaster-not only for the US but for this planet. Sanctions against US allies (EU, Korea etc) is pushing them to work with Russia, Iran, China. Coup-attemps and support for military dictators (Turkey, Pakistan, Phillipines) is slowly turning former US friends into enemies.

DJ-A US (by proxy-"contra's/mercenaries") war against Venezuela may cause/restart wars in Columbia, Brazil, Mexico and could end up as a war in the US itself.

It would be vry wise when the US government would seek cooperation with other countries in stead of confrontation.
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