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DJ-Some background;

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-06/trumps-relationship-russia-china-revival-henry-wallace-doctrine DJ-FDR during World War 2 was hoping for peacefull cooperation between the US-Russia (Soviet Union) and China after the war.

https://sputniknews.com/us/201907071076172107-tulsi-gabbard-warns-conflict-iran-potentially-far-more-devastating-than-iraq-war/

Middle East;

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-allegedly-seeking-to-annex-idlib-northern-aleppo-report/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/libyan-official-accuses-turkey-of-transferring-foreign-terrorists-to-libya/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/houthi-aircraft-let-loose-powerful-attack-on-two-saudi-airports/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/houthi-forces-unveil-new-cruise-missile-photos/

DJ-Turkey has its own agenda, going for its own goals and has room to do so due to the western war against Syria. Turkey is fighting with Iran against the Kurds-all three nations are non-Arab. The Arab-nations fear growing Turkish influence-may see that as a larger risk than Iran influence. (At least Iran has oil-Turkey may come for oil).
Turkey and Saudi Arabia also have a religious conflict-with Turkey claiming S.A. is not doing enough to protect the holy islamic places.

Saudi Arabia itself is sinking deeper in the mud they created in Yemen. Depending on foreign military (South American mercenaries, former Blackwater PMC's, Pakistan, Sudan forces) the KSA fails to get control over Yemen. Blaming Iran for that is not a solution.

The UAE is pulling out of the conflict, just like many foreign armies. Oil infrastructure in Saudi Arabia is now less protected while Yemen has better (long range) weapons.

Both Turkey and Yemen will further escalate conflicts for their own goals. Both Russia and the "west" are limited in what they can do on that. Further escalating tensions with Iran is creating more room for other conflicts in the region.

With other conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine (but also Mali, Algeria etc) starting a war against Iran could make the West Asia-North Africa region "explode".

Turkey has limited means to get much control over such a situation, the US wants chaos-is unable to create order. A wider conflict would be an open door for Russia and China.

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DJ-Some of the headlines;
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-08/major-provocation-china-us-approves-sale-22-billion-weapons-taiwan,https://www.rt.com/news/463698-duterte-china-war-usa/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-08/iran-threatens-surpass-20-uranium-enrichment-after-iaea-confirms-45 and https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/07/pretty-please-trump-asked-iran-to-allow-him-to-bomb-it.html

https://thebulletin.org/2019/07/pentagon-report-russian-leaders-believe-they-are-already-at-war-with-the-united-states-in-the-gray-zone/?utm_source=Newsletter%20070819&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=PentagonReport_07052019

https://www.rt.com/news/463714-russia-india-submarine-su57-deals/

Again-the US know they can not win an open war with Russia-Iran-China (R-I-C). So the US via tarifs, sanctions, proxies is fighting "R-I-C" in covert wars with frontlines from Libya, Venezuela, Yemen, Syria, Ukraïne, Kashmir, Baluchistan, Afghanistan, South China Sea/Hong Kong.

From time to time the "covert" war gets close to "open" war. Sooner or later things get out of control and we end up in a major conflict.

(DJ-The US (and the EU, Russia, China etc.) should deal more with the growing food crisis in the US and the effect that will have on the globe. The US is the main agriculture exporter (Dutch are second). Due to flooding in the US, climate collapse around the globe, the number of refugees may explode !

We did see temperatures in France one would expect in Saudi Arabia. An extreme heatwave could make hundreds of millions of people move. A border wall is not the answer-trying to slow down climate change, diseases (ebola is just one of many) etc may be a batter answer.)
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DJ-This https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-incident-in-the-strait-of-hormuz-shots-fired is the Trump reaction to this https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-18/major-threat-dollars-reserve-status-russia-offers-join-european-swift-bypass

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-18/russia-offers-turkey-its-advanced-su-35-fighters-day-after-f-35-program-expulsion (DJ-Turkey still in NATO but preparing to deal with (US backed) Kurds in Iraq and Syria)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-18/brink-world-war-3-here-are-5-major-developments-within-last-48-hours

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/07/19/601311/IRGC-drone-footage-USS-Boxer-Trump Iran denies any attack on a US ship-or any loss of a drone.

DJ-We are in the insane situation that US "democrates"push for war so Trump will not get reelected. (DJ-Trump did not bring back US forces from the Middle East-Turkey, maybe Pakistan may "send US forces return" from the Middle East. Russia and Iran will leave this job to "US allies".)

There is a strugle for the EU-the US wants the EU to give up on the Iran deal (wich Trump did not want since it was an Obama-succes.) Russia and China want the EU to stick to the Iran deal.

Any major US action against Iran is unacceptable for Russia and China. "RIC" want to avoid world war 3 at almost all cost. On the other hand they are willing to send "a very strong signal" when the US crosses a red line.

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DJ-Iran shot down US drone over Iran water, US tells UK to take Iran tanker in Gibraltar, Iran now takes UK tanker.

https://ejmagnier.com/2019/07/20/khameneis-three-commandments-for-the-iranians-the-middle-east-is-heading-towards-maximum-danger/?fbclid=IwAR16nJUJFhGDL-QM36sU8-N0G8-a1eSFjDY2jJXqn7Dyzds2YZFu1QkQaus:

The Middle East is heading for “maximum danger” following the “maximum pressure” imposed on Iran by US President Donald Trump who, unilaterally and unlawfully, withdrew over a year ago from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), known as the nuclear agreement, and imposed harsh sanctions on Iran that Tehran considers a declaration of economic war. Trump’s move against Iran has provoked a gathering storm of tanker wars, the mutual detention of tankers by Iran and Britain. Indeed, the US administration has been pushing London to confront Iran starting from the capture of an Iranian super tanker (Grace 1) at Gibraltar on July 4, which has now triggered an Iranian tit-for-tat reaction (capturing a British tanker in the Straits of Hormuz). While the US and the UK are walking, along with Iran, on the edge of the abyss, the Iranian supreme leader, Sayyed Ali Khamenei, has publicly proclaimed “three points of guidance” for officials in the country, which includes a road map to follow even in his own absence.

Iran has detained a British oil tanker “Stena Impero” hours after the British High Court of Gibraltar announced the extension of an additional month of the arrest of Iranian tanker “Grace 1”, carrying two million barrels of oil. When this news reached the Iranian leadership, they realised that mediation efforts by French President Emmanuel Macron had stumbled and that it was time for Iran to take the matter in hand.

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It is not unlikely that Tehran will set up ballistic missiles at close range to the enemies or countries that could be targeted by these missiles. Its allies will defend Iran at a moment’s notice.

The situation today is as follow: Iran has detained the British tanker “Stena Impero” along with its 23 crew members in Bandar Abbas pending the release of its carrier Grace 1. The US Central Command has announced that it is working with its allies to securefreedom of movement. Iran has threatened to not allow any oil exports from the Persian Gulf region if it cannot export its own oil. Tehran downed an American drone. Trump himself announced the shooting down of an unmanned Iranian drone –a claim Iran denies– thus placing himself on the same level as the Iranian IRGC- which Trump calls a terrorist group!

The US is sending new troops to Saudi Arabia, and Britain has sent additional war vessels in the Persian Gulf. All this deployment in a small area in the Middle East, a narrow strait that can hardly accommodate all these events. The region is heading towards maximum danger where all countries and allies are putting their hands on the trigger instead of going to the negotiating table and respecting the agreements signed. And what comes next may be even worse.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/07/britain-pirates-iranian-ship-grace-1-iran-responds-takes-british-tanker-hostage.html

https://www.debka.com/mystery-drone-attack-on-pro-iran-iraqi-militia-was-a-gamechanger-in-the-us-iran-standoff/

https://www.debka.com/mivzak/british-airways-suspends-flights-to-cairo-as-security-precaution/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/hezbollah-allegedly-preparing-for-war-with-israel-after-syrian-conflict-us-newspaper/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-is-prepared-to-reinvade-cyprus-if-needed-erdogan/

https://southfront.org/sdf-commander-in-chief-claims-russia-damascus-asked-for-military-support-in-idlib/ (DJ-Syria and Russia would like Kurds to stay part of Syria. When Kurds refuse Turkey may deal with the Kurds-and any force protecting them (including NATO allies).
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Some interesting articles on Iran;

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-22/why-united-states-wont-launch-ground-war-versus-iran (DJ-What this article is missing is the possibility of an Israeli attack on Iran-dragging "others" into war)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-21/missing-three-letter-word-iran-crisis-DJ-Just like Venezuela-it is all about (control of) oil/energy-US$

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-22/millions-barrels-iranian-crude-are-piling-chinese-ports DJ-Iran has good land-links and relations with most of its neighboors-so oil export by sea may be a problem, transport by land (Turkey, Iraq, Pakistan-but also Caspian Sea) is "wide open".

DJ-The EU is not waiting for another major conflict, millions of refugees etc. If the UK wants better (trade) relations with the US by joining the anti-Iran insanity-it is up to the UK to deal with the results.
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https://www.rt.com/news/465795-india-scraps-kashmir-autonomy/

https://kashmir.liveuamap.com/

https://www.asiatimes.com/section/india/

https://twitter.com/ELINTNews

https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13395&start=40

DJ-India ending special status for Kashmir may be unacceptable for Pakistan. https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1158306267640815616

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bank-crisis-hits-pakistan-withdrawals-limited-to-18-69-a-week and https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/india-putting-180-000-paramilitary-troops-into-kashmir-pakistan-mobilizing-army-and-air-force

DJ-Things between India and Pakistan can get out of control high speed. Both Russia and China will seek de-escalation. (The US may push for escalation to break the New Silk Road-China-plan. With also unrest in Hong Kong-for wich China also blames the US-Russia-Iran-China may be "pushed" to get the situation under control. )

US plans to blockade Venezuela, further Iran gulf actions, the US selling weapons to Taiwan destabilize the global situation further.

As a reminder China is the third party involved in the Kashmir crisis, there is a border dispute between India and China in that area as well. If a war breaks out Pakistan AND China will confront India (and the US ?).
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DJ-https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/attack-on-iran-would-be-an-attack-on-russia/ is translated into https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-07/russia-gains-stranglehold-over-persian-gulf
(Do not know what to think of https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/sneak-attack-planned-against-us-navy-vessels-in-port-attackers-will-allegedly-be-british-navy-to start a war with Iran, China ?)

The US is behind https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/pakistan-prime-minister-is-the-world-prepared-for-a-nuclear-war supporting tensions between SCO members India and Pakistan to stop China (and Iran).

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/opinion/india-or-pakistan-kashmir-a-test-for-gulf-diplomacy/

DJ-Both India and Pakistan know they can not start a major war. Both face climate change major problems. Saudi Arabia is believed to be financing wahabist extremists-most likely in cooperation with the CIA-one may see an increase of IS activities in the region.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-07/trumps-blockade-begins-venezuela-says-food-shipment-blocked-panama-canal China is the main investor in Venezuelan oil.

DJ-The Russia-Iran-China coalition is getting stronger now Russia is alowed to use Iran ports. China-Pakistan cooperation-and Russian influence-may force India to "make Kashmir a place for (Chinese, Russian) investments. (The US is not in a position to stop the New Silk Road).

With Turkey and Iran as expected new SCO members https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation and the SCO also looking for "military cooperation to make bussiness possible" the SCO is becoming a "shared market"from the Russian-Norway border to Syria, China-NK border.

I (DJ) would not be surprised when Latin American countries also would show interest in membership of the SCO. Cuba, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Venezuela (later on Argentina, Brazil, smaller states) could make the SCO the "New World Order".

The EU has to deal with the SCO. The SCO https://ico.newsbtc.com/ico/sco-coin/ uses a digital currency based on a mix of SCO member currencies so no country can dictate the value.

http://eng.sectsco.org/

DJ-"The west(ern pseudo media)" does not realise how fast things are changing. The US policy of confrontation and trade wars, sanction, is a main factor-pushing most other countries out of the US trade relations.

Since Trump did not start "a new cold war" a new US president after Trump will not make the difference for most countries.
Asia has 4 billion people living in it, working with the EU, Africa and Latin America will be the end of the US-age.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/washingtons-utterly-failed-diplomacy

https://www.rt.com/news/466186-china-mediates-pakistan-india/

DJ-The US is putting sanctions on Iran because the US does not continu the Iran-deal, than puts sanctions on countries that buy oil from Iran. Among these countries are EU/NATO members.

The Kashmir-crisis has US fingerprints. Kashmir borders China. China does not want IS/alquada/cia terrorists in its "backyard" to disrupt the New Silk Road. But also India and Pakistan are not waiting for another permanent crisis like the Afghan-never ending-war. (Started by the US in the 70's to give the Soviet Union their "own Viet Nam", although Afghanistan is not a real country-it houses several tribes-wich goes for many countries. The natural-mountain-area-made "nation building" hard. Both Russia and British India tried to get Afghanistan under control in the 19th century-both failed.)

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/uae-backed-forces-expel-saudi-backed-troops-from-yemeni-presidential-palace/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russias-northern-fleet-kicks-off-large-scale-drills-to-search-for-enemy-subs-in-arctic/,
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/smoke-will-rise-tel-aviv-iran-warns-israel-against-joining-us-maritime-coalition

DJ-International diplomacy is needed to avoid "friction". When the US is sabotaging diplomacy it will effect international relations all over the globe.
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Hong Kong

https://hongkong.liveuamap.com/

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-china-begins-military-invasion-of-hong-kong

https://sputniknews.com/world/201908101076517515-state-dept-says-china-must-halt-dangerous-media-reports-about-us-diplomat-in-hong-kong/

DJ-Some comments claim Hong Kong-ers realised only now what the 1997 transfer from the UK to PRC means. In one comment Shang Hai is supposed to become "a new (Chinese) Hong Kong".

Most likely "foreign agents" tried to influence protests (just like the uprising in Syria etc-in the beginning was real.) Hijacking demonstrations for other goals to start "revolutions" do most of the time end up in chaos.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-11/video-shows-live-fire-ring-out-kashmir-protests Indian occupation of Kashmir is ok for western "press", but in Hong Kong it is a crime.
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DJ-There is some discussion on the Russia-Iran relationship. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/no-there-will-be-no-russian-base-in-iran.html (the comments give nuances-one may ask who has power in Iran. The revolutionary guards are working with the Russians in Syria. Iran may like to be independent and Islamic. The best way to stay that way may to work with "several partners"; Russia, China (New Silk Road), Turkey (oil and Kurdshttps://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/08/13/603412/Iran-Turkey-train-travel-tourism-Erdogan-Rouhani) Pakistan.

The Russian orthodox church is a major factor in Russia-feels related to Syrian orthodox church wich was attacked by (western supported) Islamic Sunni radicals. On religious matters Russia, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan may not be in conflict. It is bizar the US/NATO is supporting wahabist anti-western terrorists.)

https://www.rt.com/news/466349-hong-kong-color-revolution/, https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-russia-places-voronezh-region-borders-ukraine-to-wartime-status
DJ-Since the US is against any form of diplomacy or compromise why seek a form of agreement with the US ? Russian intervention in Ukraine, China intervention in Hong Kong could mean the end of an illusion.

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201908121076533361-china-scolds-india-over-ladakh-regions-status-amid-simmering-kashmir-tensions/
DJ-The China-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor is being put to the test by India's annexation of Kashmir. Also China and Russia have to find agreement on how to deal with India. (a.o. in the SCO).

https://www.thetricontinental.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/190730_Dossier-19_EN-Web.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1bI8Q7nsk8aOt3XRuII4yEAdHZ1KgE4q1aYZ3jeyzemdzPcB0JRgl6jIA
28 pages Univ.Tehran on Iran
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DJ-The US pushed for Russia-Iran-China (RIC) cooperation. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-12/escobar-how-tehran-fits-russia-china-strategy

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-14/china-prepares-its-nuclear-option-trade-war and https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/violent-protests-in-hong-kong-reach-their-last-stage.html

DJ-Agression would be the only correct word for US foreign policy against RIC. Since the US is also sanctioning or fighting Venezuela, Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan (Iran and Turkey = 80 milion people each, Pakistan =205 milion people-"TIP" has more inhabitants than the US !) the RIC coalition is getting stronger.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-14/war-and-weapons-we-trust-militarization-has-become-americas-national-religion
DJ-The US view of the world has gotten pretty insane.

(And I am not anti-US-some (group of) nation(s) ends up "leading the world". Maybe the US in such a position may be better than China. But you need diplomacy more than military strenght.
You do not stay in the #1 position by being friendly, but also not by going to war with almost all other countries.)
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DJ-Two long read's on https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-20/chinas-ultimate-play-global-oil-market-control the way Iran-China and Russia more or less take over the Middle East. The US has a major base in Qatar-but even Qatar is not following US instructions.
China is importing Iran oil via both Pakistan-pipelines and (Chinese)tankers-and is willing to protect those lines of transport.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/anti-china-cult-gets-us-government-money-runs-large-pro-trump-ad-campaign-.html
DJ-The US is-partly-financing (a.o.) the Falun Gong cult. (The US is also involved-via Qatar-with Uyghur and Caucasus jihadi's).

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-21/endgame-near-syrian-army-liberates-khan-sheikhoun-site-claimed-sarin-attack
DJ-Under the Astana deal Turkey would take over control of jihadi's in Idlib/N.W. Syria. Turkey failed to do so-so the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and Russia, Iran now deal with the jihadi-terrorists (backed by the west and Gulf States.) In that area there are also some pro-Turkish groups-backed by Turkey. DJ-This conflict will not end in a war between Turkey and Syria. Erdogan needs support from "R-I-C" (Russia, Iran, China).

DJ-The US is believed to have talks with the Taliban, Iran, Venezuela (etc. North Korea) to keep some influence.
https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2019/22-august-warplanes-targeted-with-machine-guns-southern-outskirts
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DJ-Trump's stupidity is the major risk at the moment;

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/trump-deploys-a-new-label-for-china-s-xi-enemy and https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/president-trump-orders-all-u-s-companies-out-of-china
Hal Turner's view may reflect the stupidity of Trump:
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This is going to be VERY good for those of us in the USA.   Companies will be scrambling to obtain manufacturing facilities here in the U.S. which means more US jobs and a return of the middle class.

It also means log term better results for American companies, who no longer have to give away Trade Secrets to China, only to have China leak those secrets to its own industries, then sell the same products cheaper, driving the US companies out of business. It's easy for China to have profitable companies when they get their products by stealing what American firms paid to develop.

The people who lined their pockets by shipping US jobs overseas are not going to be happy about this; expect to see flailing and hear gnashing of teeth as their greed gets reigned-in.

DJ-Why is this stupid ? Eur-Asia is a market of 4,5 billion people, the US is a market-in debt-of 330 million people. The US did start several wars the are not able to win.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-22/us-drown-world-oil oil production by fracking causes earthquakes, global warming and only makes a profit when the price is high. The US main ally is Saudi Arabia-also "adicted" to oil incomes.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/us-says-israel-bombed-iraq.html DJ-To avoid direct attacks in Iraq the US now is claiming Israel was behind recent attacks in Iraq (using US weapons and info).

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-23/heres-what-expect-weekends-nightmare-g-7-summit The G7 has to "tolerate" Trump.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-23/greenland-last-chance-make-america-great-again The way Trump did deal with his (understandable) interest in Greenland is shocking.

DJ-The total lack of diplomacy, will to compromize, walking away from the Iran-deal, Paris-agreement, is damaging the US.
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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/us-decoupling-from-china-forces-others-to-decouple-from-us.html and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-24/china-responds-trumps-barbaric-tariffs-vows-fight-until-end-and-have-last-laugh

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-24/what-globalism-did-was-transfer-us-economy-china-pcr:
Trump’s tariffs, or a large part of them, fall on US corporations or US consumers.

DJ-"The world" is not waiting for more wars to make a few very rich. The US goal to "stay #1" even when it puts the world in a major crisis is damaging the US.

https://theduran.com/kill-first-netanyahu-claims-israels-syrian-strikes-thwarted-imminent-iranian-aggression/
DJ-Syria is fighting jihadi's with the help of Iran and Russia. Israel seems to be (again) protecting wahabist radicals. (With US help).
https://southfront.org/hezbollah-says-israeli-suicide-drone-struck-its-media-center-in-beirut-video/

DJ-Of course embedded western "media" keeps talking about Russian/Iranian agression while the US-Saudi-Israel coalition is behind all the present wars in west Asia and North Africa. (From Libya to Yemen and Afghanistan).
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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israel-attacks-lebanon and https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/hezbollah-lebanon-announces-intent-to-attack-israel-as-retaliation, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syria-iraq-to-respond-to-israeli-attacks-iranian-official/

DJ-Hal Turner is again claiming "world war 3" is coming. He even claims the EU and US would fight with Israel (Germany would stay neutral-HT seems to forget Germany = EU).

In my opinion Russia will offer protection to Iraq and Lebanon. Iran may be willing to sell their improved S300 missiles. It is bizarre western media, politics, think these kind of Israeli (with US backing) attacks in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq are "normal".

"The west" may call a reaction "agression", just like Yemen attacks in Saudi Arabia do get mentioned in western press, Saudi (backed by US, UK etc) genocide in Yemen is "no news".

Israeli claims that Iran was preparing attacks on Israel (while fighting in Syria, Iraq) are non sense. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/sdf-calls-on-syrian-government-to-negotiate-with-them/ More likely the Kurds facing US-Turkish cooperation in NE Syria https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/turkey-centre-syria-safe-zone-fully-operational-190824182223857.html may start to feel betrayed by the US. (And fear the Turkish "safe zone" could be the beginning of further Turkish actions against Kurds in Syria.)

One of many reasons why the Kurds do not have Kurdistan (main reason=oil) is disagreement between (many) Kurdish groups. Syria was willing to stop Turkey in Afrin when Kurdish fighters were willing to accept the Assad government.

Kurds can not trust foreign powers, have to make their own realistic plans. The longer they wait the more likely Turkey and Iran may find agreement with Assad against the Kurds.

On the background Israeli attacks on Iran targets have to do with the US-China conflict. China keeps buying Iranian oil. (The G7 meeting=G6+US at the same moment is not a coincidence. Macron inviting Iran FM for talks https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/08/25/604455/Irans-foreign-minister-G7 may have shocked Trump into reality. )
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-07/america-loses-asia-pacific-full-spectrum-dominance-continues-fail:
Echoing a little Dr. Strangelove, Esper stated that there is “a coming shift” from “low intensity conflict that lasts 18 years to high intensity conflicts against competitors such as Russia and China.”
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/new-chinese-drone-prepares-for-f-35-threat/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYaPEu9Apl8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXNO_g4hlKw

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-september-6-2019-us-seeks-to-destabilize-southern-syria/,

https://southfront.org/greater-idlib-ceasefire-to-end-within-few-hours/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/venezuela-deploys-air-defense-missiles-colombian-border-to-ward-off-potential-attack/

DJ-Iran, Venezuela, Russia are main oil suppliers to China. The US is losing Asia (with 4 billion consumers).

When one looks at history the dominant nation in the world is losing that position via (global) war. The Spanish did lose their position in (a.o) the 80 year war with the Netherlands-wich for a short term become dominant. (With in the 17th century colonies from New Holland (now both state of New York and Australia) Brazil (Recife), the basics of the Dutch East Indies, several Carabiën Islands)

"We" (the Dutch) did lose that position (in several steps) (a.o.) due to Napoleon. The British became dominant in the 19th century. They lost that position to the US after two world wars.

One could argue that-in the backgroud-the power is in companies, ownership. In that view "the West"has been dominant all over "western history". (From the Roman Empire, Francia etc, only to be challenged by the Mongols, Muslims-but they were both stopped before they could take over (Western) Europe.

The idea of China becoming the new major power is a shock for such a western perspective. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)is an instrument for-mainly-this China plan. With the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank as a way to start building a New Silk Road).

Russia is another "starter" of the SCO for their economic reasons-but the SCO is now moving to protect their trade in a military way.
India and Pakistan are already members of the SCO, others Iran, Turkey will soon join the SCO.

After the end of the Soviet Union in 1990 Russia under Gorbachov was willing to think of becoming a NATO-member, Turkey did want to join the EU. At the end "the west"managed to insult Russia, Turkey-like the way the west insulted Iran by supporting-up till 1979-Sjah-dictatorship.

The EU is in between hanging on to "western domination" under "US protection" (via the NATO US weapons sales organization). The other choice is EurAsian integration.

On that frontline discussions on how to deal with the Iran-deal, Brexit fall into place. The UK may choose to follow the US. The EU needs Russian gas, Iran oil, the Asia market. (Wich it can reach via pipelines (rail)roads, shipping-the US market is only by ship/plane).

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-06/us-army-major-ret-we-are-living-wreckage-war-terror Is not only a description of the NATO-war in Afghanistan, also Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen etc. Realisticly war is not an option.

Still US politics may cause another-final-World War. Israel-Netanyahu-election campain needs a crisis. The Saudi royal family owning Saud Arabia only can stay in power by a crisis.

The US is becoming a "new Sparta" with military securing US interests around the globe.

Another offensive in Syria may see direct confrontation between US and Russian/Iran forces. China may act after a further US provocation in Hong Kong, South China Sea.

The time to "wait for another US president" may not be good enough to avoid further-serious-escalation. (One US goal is to stop the EU from going for EurAsian integration with US-German pipelines etc.)

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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/09/attacks-on-major-saudi-oil-installations-show-urgent-need-for-peace-with-yemen.html

DJ-There were TWO attacks on major Saudi oil installations-effecting a 5% reduction in global oil production.

Some remarks;

-Saudi Arabia needs higher oil prices to keep the (a.o.) Yemen war(s) going.
-The attacks-most likely houthi's/Yemen related may (partly) have started from inside Saudi Arabia.
-Saudi Arabia is not only in conflict with Yemen but also (a.o.) Qatar, U.A.E. https://southfront.org/new-arabian-peninsulas-cold-war-is-coming/ and-de facto Syria, Iraq, Turkey.
-There are some reports that cruise missiles came from Iraq. Most of the attack came by drones.https://southfront.org/photos-show-houthis-used-cruise-missile-in-their-attack-on-saudi-oil-facilities/
-DJ-A strategic goal for this attack could be to stop, unable Saudi continuation of the (Yemen) war.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/pompeo-attack-against-saudi-refinery-came-from-iran
(DJ-Radar would provide proof for such a claim-most likely the US can not give (real) radar images as proof. It would be very unlikely that allthough near such an attack would come from inside Iran. Also direct aid for such an attack from Iran would be "sensitive"-still for the US there seems to be no need of proof.)

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/unverified-video-allegedly-shows-houthi-drones-heading-towards-saudi-arabia-from-iraq/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/houthis-claim-responsibility-for-powerful-attack-on-saudi-aramco-site/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-blocked-3-israeli-attacks-in-syria-this-month-report/ and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-israel-negotiating-mutual-defense-treaty-trump/ see also https://www.debka.com/putin-and-netanyahu-mark-iranian-bases-in-syria-for-removal-to-80km-from-israeli-border/

https://www.debka.com/the-big-drone-attack-on-saudi-oil-facilities-was-launched-by-iran-backed-yemeni-houthis-from-iraq/

DJ-Tuesday will bring elections in Israel. Netanyahu "needs to show strength and resolve" so most likely there will be Israeli anti-Iran action before sept 17. Since Russia is not giving Israel room above Syria (and controls the airspace above Lebanon, Iraq) a US-Saudi-Israel (USI) reaction may come via Saudi Arabia (or Azerbedjan, cruise misseles )

China and Russia will defend Iran. https://theduran.com/china-and-iran-form-strategic-partnership-with-400-billion-energy-deal-video/

Trump is sinking deeper and deeper in the Middle East mud. If he wants to get reelected he needs to pull out now. https://theduran.com/with-bolton-out-will-trump-rethink-americas-foreign-policy-dogma-video/

DJ-From the MoA comments-one may not be surprised when the Saudi attack is a false flag. A welcome excuse for war-Israel wants, higher oil prices Saudi needs.

From the Duran;
According to the individuals cited by Bloomberg, the White House has begun preparations for Trump to meet Rouhani on the sidelines of the annual United Nations General Assembly during the week of September 23 in New York.
DJ-There are "groups" sabotaging any steps to peace Trump needs to take. Those "groups" are "democrats" and some "old school-anti Trump-republicans" in the US and some (pro) Israel, MIC, groups.

DJ-Once the US starts direct military action against Iran the US is sinking even deeper in problems with not only Russia and China but also Turkey, Pakistan. The EU is not waiting for further crises and may even move further towards EurAsia integration.
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DJ-Why should the US move out of the Middle East ?

The US got involved in a Syria (drought related/Arab Spring) uprising to get regime change. Assad was not willing to cooperate with a Qatar-Turkey-EU oil/gas transportroute the US wanted to keep the EU from buying Russian energy.

We are now 8 years further-that goal totally failed. Also US regimechange in Libya-with the goal to prevent Gadaffi introducing a pan-African currency (golden dinar) for energydeals-in competition with the US petro$ failed to get the US goal.

Due to the conflicts in Libya, Syria, Yemen (Afghanistan, Pakistan etc) other underlying conflicts came to the surface.

-The older Sunni-Shia conflict became more violent.
There is a Shia minority in Saudi Arabia NE (close to Iraq) that now may be getting more agressive against the Saudi "royal"family claiming to own the country. (The recent attacks against Saudi oil installations may have come from the Iraq/Saudi border area). Iran=Shia, KSA=Sunni

-Within the Sunni several new conflicts do show up.

Turkey-KSA on who is ruling the Islamic world, also the Turks are in conflict with the Kurds. KSA/USA is supporting those Kurdish groups, Turkey and Iran are fighting them.

KSA did intervene in Bahrain to keep the Sunni elite in power that is ruling over a Shia majority.

KSA did manage to get in conflict with Qatar, U.A.E Qatar now joining Iran in a border gasfield exploration.

Also the Yemen-war, with once Sudanese and Pakistani military fighting on the side of KSA is turning into a disaster for KSA (and the west supporting the KSA).

In the mean time China is the major energy importer in the world. The US became the largest oil producer (with Russia and KSA competing for #2).

Both KSA, Iran want to deal with China. (China is also investing in Venezuela oil industry-also under attack by the US).

Even Israel-that claims to have good relations with Russia (Putin and Netanyahu have more contact than Netanyahu has with Trump)-wants a share of the New Silk Road-trade between the EU and China.

When Iran wants to be part of the New Silk Road it can not move towards a military conflict with Israel or KSA openly.

Netanyahu convinced Putin to keep Iran 80 miles from Israeli borders-most likely diplomacy did bring more succes for Israel (talking with Putin) than military action did.

The US has forces in the North and South of Syria. With Turkey the US is now working for a security zone south of the Turkish border inside Syria. Erdogan wants to use that safe-zone to return (over 2 milion) Syrian refugees in Turkey.
The Kurds are not very happy with that-and are working more closer (including oil deals) with the Assad government. For the Kurds Russia may be providing protection against Turkey, Iran, Assad. A protection the US can not longer provide.

Israel and Saudi Arabia know they can not win a war with Iran on their own power. They do want the US to do that job for them. (So Israel can move towards a greater Israel, annexation of Golan Heights, parts of West Bank-maybe even other wars with Lebanon/Gaza. Saudi Arabia can regain the leading position in both religion and oil/gas.)

Realisticly-a US war with Iran would damage the US;

-It would turn out a much more expensive war than any other endless war the US did get involved in.
-The chances of that war turning into a nuclear conflict (Trump claims the US could "win" such a conflict) are very serious.
-The US may loose support from NATO members, the EU, even a lot of Arab/Muslim states. (Indonesia is more and more moving away from the US).
-Russia and China will support Iran. They may try to avoid open war between Russia/China and the US but organizations like the SCO may turn into a military pact faster (with even India, Pakistan-SCO members-turning against the US).

DJ-In my opinion it would be wise when Trump started to look for dialogue not confrontation. Russia managed to get involved in conflicts but still to be diplomatic above conflict. The US is party in a conflict and "out of communication" with to many enemies, in wars that never seem to end.

The US moving further into Middle East conflicts (to stop China) is moving the US against self-interest and-in the longer term will destroy the US.
A diplomatic offensive-Trump talking with major leaders around the globe-may be the wiser choice.
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