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Posted: January 22 2020 at 10:52am |
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China's government has now confirmed that the airport and all public transport will be shut down beginning at 10am local time tomorrow – just seven hours. Authorities have already urged people to stop travelling in and out of Wuhan, the city at the centre of the outbreak. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-china-quarantines-wuhan--21337907 |
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Wuhan Epidemic Command: Public Transport Shut Down 2020-01-23 02:12 Changjiang Daily Of new pneumonia epidemic prevention and control headquarters in Shanghai (No. 1) In order to fully do a good job in the prevention and control of the pneumonia epidemic of the new type of coronavirus infection, effectively cut off the transmission of the virus, resolutely curb the spread of the epidemic, and ensure the safety and health of the people, the relevant matters are notified as follows: From 10:00 on January 23, 2020, the city's urban bus, subway, ferry, and long-distance passenger transportation will be suspended; for no special reason, citizens should not leave Wuhan, and the airport and train station from the Han corridor will be temporarily closed. Recovery time will be announced separately. The public and passengers are kindly requested to understand and support! Pneumonia epidemic prevention and control headquarters of new coronavirus infection in Wuhan January 23, 2020 https://3g.163.com/news/article/F3HRMGN80001899O.html |
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Albert
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AI - you are doing great with digging up info and it's much appreciated. I thought Wuhan has a population of 11 million? Now that a hell of a quarantine.
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It is a city of 11.9 million people. The actions of China tell the true scope of this outbreak not just what they are reporting. I can not ever remember a city of that size being quarantined,I don't think it's happened before. |
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People's Daily, China @PDChina · 14m No people in #Wuhan, C China's Hubei will be allowed to leave the city starting 10 a.m. of Jan. 23. Train stations and airport will shut down; the city bus, subway, ferry and long-distance shuttle bus will also be temporarily closed: local authority #WuhanPneumonia #coronavirus |
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Albert
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It seems to be mutating rapidly, which would be a reason to quarantine the 11m. It could be getting more virulent, and better to risk the city than the rest of the country, or planet. |
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Here is a bit more on the quarantine, the 56 acre camp being made ready in Hong Kong is interesting (multiple camps if you read down and look them up)
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/breathing-01222020122435.html And yes, I think trying to quarantine a 11 million population city is huge, the Gov is worried, that's unprecedented. Further more look at the incredible speed things are moving at. |
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Yeah I have seen several statements from China stating the virus is mutating(although they don't mention how) and that would explain locking Wuhan down. But I think the genie is out of the bottle so to speak, time will tell. |
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Agreed. Exposed to a wider population, we should fully expect it to mutate. With millions of potential hosts in Wuhan alone, it’s already being given ample opportunity. In a global outbreak, the sky’s the limit. It clearly already has the ability to transmit H2H very efficiently. Now it only needs to refine it’s CFR to really kick our butts.
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Looks like Chinese police have closed all roads in and out of Wuhan. The city is locked up tight, they are serious. It'll get more serious when the Chinese Army takes up positions to surround the city as people try to flee Wuhan on foot and they will it's just a matter of time.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-police-roadblocks-thousands-attempt-21338413 |
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https://au.news.yahoo.com/wuhan-urges-people-stay-away-bid-contain-china-045542833--spt.html
The city government announced the series of tightening measures after facing criticism for going ahead with an annual public banquet for 40,000 families at the weekend, despite the spread of the virus. Wuhan's mayor told state broadcaster CCTV that they didn't then fully understand how the virus was spread and the decision to go ahead was based on a judgement that the spread was "limited." https://daily.jstor.org/the-1918-parade-that-spread-death-in-phil Historical fact...."On September 28, despite the increased infiltration of the disease among the civilian population, a rally for the Fourth Liberty Loan Drive proceeded with minimal debate about the repercussions for public health.” The head of Philadelphia’s Naval Hospital told the Public Ledger in the days before the parade: “There is no cause for further alarm. We believe we have it well in hand.” So, the parade went forward. “In the streets of downtown Philadelphia 200,000 people gathered to celebrate an impending allied victory in World War I. Within a week of the rally an estimated 45,000 Philadelphians were afflicted with influenza.” |
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The only defense in Wuhan now is social distancing collectively and individually.
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I am hearing a lot of people say the virus is mutating but does anyone any specific information concerning this? Also it will take the Chinese Army in enforce any real quarantine.
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No specifics, but corona viruses do quite frequently. It is the reason the common cold is so common - and you are not immune after recovery.
When you see pictures of corona viruses under an electron microscope, the round body of the virus is covered with tiny knobs. These knobs are specific chemical protuberances used to grab and pierce the cells they infect. They are also the bit your immune system recognises after you have recovered from the cold. The clever bit is, the protuberances can be changed by the virus, as easily as you change your coat*. The new "coat" is not recognised by the immune system of recovered patients. Thus you can get the cold virus all over again. *It is not optional to each individual virus; it is an evolutionary thing. But it might just as well be voluntary on the part of the virus; they are so numerous a few are changing each generation (virus generation, approximately 3 days, not 30 years like us). |
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2014/01/25/wuhan-feast-i-want-to-go-to-there/
I guess this is what they held last weekend in wuhan. Link on bottom for photo Last night, the Wuhan pavilion community held its 14th annual massive ‘family dinner’. Each family in the community made one dish and thousands of them were displayed on the table. The giant “family dinner” has now became a traditional activity organized by the community. It developed from a hundred dish potluck to a thousand dish dinner over time, and has been going on for 14 consecutive 2014/01/25/wuhan-feast-i-want-to-go-to-there/ https://i1.wp.com/shanghaiist.com/upload/2014/01/wuhan_family_dinner1.jpg?resize=640%2C443 https://i1.wp.com/shanghaiist.com/upload/2014/01/wuhan_family_dinner1.jpg?zoom=1.6&resize=527%2C365 |
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Now that's some social distancing in a pandemic, lol. The initial reservoir for this coronavirus is snakes, so let's hope they're thinking about it. |
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On the subject of mutation: Is a virus more likely to mutate to a more or less virulent form? Or, do they become more and more virulent until they burn themselves out? Or some of all of the above?
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From the NYT (breaking) - China is sealing off two more cities.
The authorities ban travel from three cities at center of outbreak, affecting millions. The authorities expanded travel restrictions to two central Chinese cities near Wuhan, the epicenter of a mysterious outbreak of coronavirus, hours after announcing that 17 people had died and more than 570 had contracted the disease. The restrictions on train and other forms of travel will apply to tens of millions of people and come just days before the Lunar New Year holiday, when hundreds of millions of people travel around and out of the country. The Chinese authorities on Thursday morning closed off Wuhan — a major port city of more than 11 million people and the center of a pneumonia-like virus that has spread halfway around the world — by canceling flights and trains leaving the city, and suspending buses, subways and ferries within it. By evening, officials planned to close off Huanggang, a city of seven million about 30 miles east of Wuhan, and shut rail stations in the nearby city of Ezhou, which has about one million residents. In Huanggang, public transportation and departing trains would were to stop service at midnight. Residents would not be allowed to leave the city without special permission, according to a government statement. In Ezhou, all rail stations were to be closed. In Wuhan, residents said that a sense of fear was growing as the city went into lockdown. The new virus, which first emerged at the end of December, has killed at least 17 people and sickened more than 570, including in Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, South Korea and the United States. It has raised the specter of a repeat of the SARS epidemic, which broke out in China in 2002 and 2003 and spread rapidly while officials obscured the seriousness of the crisis. That virus eventually killed more than 800 people worldwide. Roughly 30,000 people fly out of Wuhan on an average day, according to air traffic data. Many more leave using ground transportation like trains and cars. The city is the hub of industry and commerce in central China, home to the region’s biggest airport and deepwater port. The sudden restrictions could upend the travel plans of millions of Chinese citizens, who travel in huge numbers during the Lunar New Year holiday, which begins on Friday. The government said it would close Wuhan’s airport and train stations to departures, and it urged residents not to leave the city unless they had an urgent reason to do so. In Beijing, the government said it would cancel large public gatherings for the holiday, including fairs at temples that usually draw shoulder-to-shoulder crowds. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage |
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Looks like the Chinese have quarantined yet another city this makes the 5th city to be quarantined.
Nearly 20million people in Wuhan, Huanggang, Ezhou and the smaller cities Chibi and Zhijiang - all in the Hubei province - have been banned from travelling as experts fear the deadly virus is becoming impossible to contain. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10803076/coronavirus-china-lockdown-huanggang-ezhou-wuhan/ |
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This will be a fiasco if it breaks containment. China needs to be transparent.
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It must be moving much faster than they are letting on if they are taking measures this drastic. Quarantining numerous cities with millions of people is a huge undertaking and virtually impossible to do effectively.Hoping some news gets out with what the situation is in those cities.
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Given all the suspected cases around the world at this point(especially overnight), I think it's safe to say the genie is out of the bottle. |
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