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Long Covid: If you have ongoing symptoms, you will be unable to donate blood in the UK. Symptoms may be intermittent and include; Fatigue Shortness of Breath Headaches Dizziness Confusion Brain Fog Pins and Needles Skin Rashes H/t  https://my.blood.co.uk/your-account/eligibility/health/article/?id=01552031&title=Long+Covid+%3A+COVID-19+%28Coronavirus%29

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Long Covid: Organ damage for 59% of patients with long COVID continues a year after initial symptoms. 29% of patients with long COVID had multi-organ impairment, with persistent symptoms and reduced function at six and twelve months.

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. there is, tragically, evidence of Covid being transmitted via organ donation. The recipient died, & the transplant surgeon also became ill. The organ itself was only tested for Covid after the patient died. Pre-transfusion screening is vital.

link [url]https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/organ-transplant-patient-dies-after-receiving-covid-infected-lungs-n1258388[/url] or https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/organ-transplant-patient-dies-after-receiving-covid-infected-lungs-n1258388 








UK: At least one third of all working-age people have at least one long-term health condition

DJ...due to CoViD being this widespread lots of transplants will become unable...Maybe over 1 billion people may carry the CoViD virus somewhere hidden in their body ??? We do not know because we do not want to know ! 

#COVID19 #VariantDashboard - #USA Top #SARSCoV2 Lineages #21DAYTRENDS  10.2%  XBB.1.16 8.5%   EG.5.1 7.7%    XBB.1.5 4.6%   XBB.1.16.1 3.7%   XBB.1.16.6 3.2%   FL.1.5.1 2.9%   EG.5.1.1 Includes ~16% Airport surveillance sequences| Track http://tinyurl.com/mryj4uu7 | 07/31/23  1/n

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[url]https://outbreak.info/situation-reports?xmin=2023-02-01&xmax=2023-08-01&loc&pango=EG.5.1&selected[/url] or https://outbreak.info/situation-reports?xmin=2023-02-01&xmax=2023-08-01&loc&pango=EG.5.1&selected EG.5.1 decreasing worldwide (?) But (a.o.) EG.5.1.1 increasing [url]https://outbreak.info/situation-reports?xmin=2023-02-01&xmax=2023-08-01&loc&pango=EG.5.1.1&selected[/url] or https://outbreak.info/situation-reports?xmin=2023-02-01&xmax=2023-08-01&loc&pango=EG.5.1.1&selected 

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[url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/07/who-epi-win-digest-1-influenza-avian.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/07/who-epi-win-digest-1-influenza-avian.html 

For those looking for a condensed version, today the WHO  published a 14-page pdf EPI-WIN digest 1 - Influenza: avian influenza H5: its evolution and associated risk, which has been updated through early June. 

While their current assessment is that HPAI H5' risk to humans is still relatively low, the virus continues to mutate in unpredictable ways. 

DJ Very likely a lot of H5 spread in mammals/humans is missed due to lack of testing...basic stupidity !

[url]https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/07/korean-mafracdc-implementation-of.html[/url] or https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2023/07/korean-mafracdc-implementation-of.html ;

In the past hour South Korea's CDC and MAFRA have posted a joint release that confirms the H5 virus detected in cats last week to be HPAI H5N1.  As a result, authorities have announced a wide-scale quarantine and surveillance operation.

This statement, combined with the last report from the Seoul Metropolitan Government, are indications of how seriously they are taking the threat. 

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The Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs implements quarantine measures as the second case of highly pathogenic avian influenza was confirmed in a cat .

In order to identify the actual conditions of infection in cats and analyze the cause of occurrence, the entire city of Seoul (25 cities , counties , and districts ), 5 cities, counties , and districts within the quarantine area ( within 10 km ) , and 24 cities and counties with highly pathogenic avian influenza outbreaks
・The actual status of avian influenza infection in stray cats in the city will be investigated from August 1st to August 20th , and it is planned to carry out surveillance and inspection of cat breeding grounds , etc.
In addition , a simultaneous surveillance and inspection of susceptible animals such as cats in animal shelters is carried out until August 8 , and wild birds ( including resident birds ) are monitored for a month in August in cooperation with the Ministry of Environment, focusing on the outbreak area, surroundings, and nearby habitats for migratory birds . * Strengthen surveillance inspections .
* ( Catch test ) 35 cases / month → 90 cases / month , ( Faecal examination ) 25 cases / month → 100 cases / month
Promote biosecurity rules in animal protection and production facilities through local governments and related organizations to prevent and block highly pathogenic avian influenza , prohibit access to wild birds ( including stray cats ) and install and inspect blocking networks for poultry farms Through this, we plan to do everything possible to prevent the vector from entering the farmhouse .

DJ...very likely H5 may be spreading in cats in more countries than Poland, South Korea...we are ignoring it...

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[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/articles/coronavirus[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/articles/coronavirus countries that do test often find quite a lot of CoViD around...so "the west" stopped testing...now hospital cases increase EG.5.1 often linked (if tested)...









South Korea: Avian influenza virus detected in cat food. South Korea's agriculture ministry said it has detected an H5 avian influenza (AI) strain in cat food, and ordered its manufacturer to recall and destroy the affected products.

DJ-like in Poland spread of H5N1 via cat food....

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4-95ReHiqY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4-95ReHiqY Kissinger 100 y/o trying to stop a US-China war...because he may be one of a few persons able to do that job...









US: Walgreens showing highest Covid-19 positivity since May 2021. https://walgreens.com/healthcare-solutions/covid-19-index

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WHO: 14.9 million excess deaths associated with the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 and 2021. Some 68% of excess deaths are concentrated in just 10 countries  globally. Middle-income countries account for 81% of the excess deaths.

DJ, So if 2022 also had 8 million excess deaths...so far 2023 would have 4 million extra deaths CoViD may have killed 25-27 million people...








Looks like we're going to be talking about EG.5.1 a fair bit as it is increasing significantly in many places. To aid communication about it, we're going with the nickname "Eris" for EG.5.1*. Note that nickname ≠ expected to cause a big wave by itself.

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Flying Blind! New wave uncertainties. Driven by waning immunity, new variants, people mixing inside due to poor weather. Limited surveillance, no  survey. Risk of 'triple-demic' - Covid + Flu + RSV. Expert views:   

DJ...the reason I bring up Kissinger in China linked to pandemics...we need a change of strategy !

The bad/sad news is politics went out of contact with reality-like politics is failing in climate collapse. Is the "only value" profits ? Do "politics" create crises to make money ? 

I have given up hope..."learning the hard way" does NOT work when you are "exploiting" pandemics, climate collapse...go for war...

Somehow that reality is denied by lots of (western) "politicians" producing empty words...ignoring real problems...

Maybe the message by now has to change; We are NOT going to survive this megamix of failure !!! Bad leaders kill us all ! 

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DJ, A major problem in the ongoing CoViD pandemic is a total lack of testing...Sequencing may find some variants are increasing...However the sequenced (thus tested) cases may be linked to hospital spread...

Also Poland, South Korea did see H5N1 in cats linked to infected cat food. With the H5N1-virus showing some changes that it may do better in spreading in mammals...

United States: Summer surges in Covid-19 positivity.   Evidence of previous surges in Covid positivity during the summer months. (Records ended in June 2022). This is why record keeping is so important!

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France: Emergency visits increase "The number of emergency visits "for suspicion of #Covid19 " has increased in recent weeks in France Latest data, as of August 2nd, +26% in one week for all ages.

DJ, claims EG.5.1 subvariant may be pushing up number of cases...however we hardly do have sampling/testing...








F456L-carrying XBB*, like EG.5, is rapidly rising. Meanwhile, XBB*+L455F+F456L is also growing fast. Some updates explaining their advantages: 1) F456L evades serum neutralization, even after XBB infection. 2) L455F+F456L combo adds on evasion and could also boost ACE2 binding!

So EG.5 subvariants may be one factor...often -since CoViD rules are ended- it may spread in hospitals, care centers...

DJ-Will we be in a major healthcare crisis when schools/workplaces reopen in about a month ? 

We had 50-60 mm (5-6 cm !) of rain here last 24 hrs...temperature -for most of NW Europe- under 20C/70F...Another cyclone is moving towards China/Korea...Global climate is in disaster mode...In latest news-NATO-BRICS conflict more on the NATO wars around the globe trying to keep US/west #1...

To end optimistic-I expect 2024 may result in more realistic western politicians willing to go for global talks on international top priorities...Present western "leaders" and neo-liberalism/neo-conservatism may be destroying the west...Sometimes changes are painfull...

BRICS do want to avoid World War Three...even if insane western leaders keep pushing for global wars to make money in "defense spending"...

Again-my view-the CoViD pandemic was avoidable if we did see better worldwide monitoring for diseases and "politics" is willing to limit spread in time...When "politics" only go for short term profits "saving the economy" we are in self destruction modus...

Even the "lab-leak" (often anti-China) "claim" does not explain how a local lab leak managed to become a global problem...(The "lab-leak" claim also "claims" the virus was able to spread worldwide in a short time ...Western countries refuse to take responsibility for their own border health checks..Disease-Travel-Hosts has travel as a weak spot unless you go for good border health checks...just common sense !). 

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Past infection leads to more severe disease during reinfection, finds US study. 5.9% reinfections resulted in death, when the first infection was severe. Authors say the protective effect wanes after a few months, and the negative effects predominate afterwards. 

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Croatia: Increased surveillance of possible severe cases of bird flu in hospitals in the EU/EEA. https://hzjz.hr/sluzba-epidemiologija-zarazne-bolesti/pojacani-nadzor-nad-mogucim-teskim-slucajevima-pticje-gripe-u-bolnicama-u-eu-eea/

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What to expect in a bird flu pandemic: "Hospitalized patients with viral encephalitis or meningoencephalitis of unexplained etiology should be  tested for the influenza virus, regardless of the respiratory virus  (flu) season."

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What to expect in a bird flu pandemic #2 "In more severe cases, a rapid progression to severe pneumonia, sepsis with shock, acute respiratory distress syndrome, or encephalitis with fatal outcome have been reported." https://ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/severe-avian-influenza-enhanced-surveillance-hospital-settings_0.pdf

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I think they are just calling H5N1 "Disease X" so as not to alarm anyone. Traditional egg cultures have been made for H5N1, but not mRNA.

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‼️AUG 7 UPDATE Convergent evolution of Spike in XBB.* family. Welcome the “FLip” (L455F+F456L): XBB.1.5.70 and HK.3            

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Our most censored tweet of the day. https://twitter.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1688593203904102410 Someone doesn't want you to know this:

[url]https://twitter.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1688638944789831681/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1688638944789831681/photo/1 

DJ, A "study" next UK pandemic 50% of population ill, 1,34 million need hospital, 840,000 deaths...Possible H5N1 human cases now called "disease X"...

Again schools/workplaces reopening may result in massive outbreak...(but hope to be wrong)...

Policies have been a disaster..."economy/profits first" did result in destroying public health...now on its way...

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DJ, I can follow each disease..."not a problem any longer" if you believe main stream media...Mpox, CoViD, H5N1 and very likely lots of other diseases (Malaria, Cholera) all "no problem"...









France: EG.5 responsible for 35% of Covid cases as hospitalizations rise. "Hospitalizations for suspected Covid-19 have been on the rise for several days. Nicknamed “Eris”, a new variant of Covid-19 would concern 35% of contaminations in France."

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Canada, Ontario: EG.5 expected to represent 35 per cent of all infections by August 2nd http://CP24.com https://cp24.com/news/new-covid
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India: Coronavirus cases in Maharashtra showing signs of increase. EG.5.1 variant detected in India.

just as an example...More interesting may be how to get out of these healthcrises...








We know enough about Covid and other diseases now to realize that: 


1. There's never any upside to getting sick. 
2. There's often hidden long term health risks. 
3. It's not that hard to provide clean air. 
4. It's not that hard to mask up. 
5. It doesn't have to be perfect.

It will be a combination of steps but I think the most basic step is governments/politics (finally !!!) start serving the people NOT the rich ! 

Non-sterilizing vaccines may make diseases worse on the long term. Yes-they may protect against symptoms for now...

Everyone should watch this 2 minute clip from a Dr Fauci lecture where he talks about two of the most misunderstood concepts in Covid transmission:
 πŸ“59% of infections result from asymptomatic transmission 
πŸ“Aerosol transmission predominates. 
Understanding this is critical.

Yet we did spent billions on vaccines...If we stop testing vaccination may have brought us -at best- a pandemic pause...on the longer run more immunity evasion...

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-international-study-finds-that-sars-cov-2-induces-igg4-synthesis-to-evade-the-immune-system[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-international-study-finds-that-sars-cov-2-induces-igg4-synthesis-to-evade-the-immune-system 

DJ-There is a very urgent need to find a better strategy to deal with the worsening global health collapse...In many ways the global health crisis may be even worse than the climate crisis..."Politics" going for global war -a global NATO to keep the elite in power- pushing is towards nuclear war...

We need change NOW !!!

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We will have elections here in NL november 22...and for the first time I may decide NOT to vote...If "left wing" parties have gone "pro-NATO" as "defender of democracy" those parties have lost the way...

In the US "democrats" wanted war with Russia, "republicans" pushed a China-war...The US population deserves better ! 

If november 24 will see another "trump-biden" choice US politics is dead...

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DJ, Like with climate change also "pandemics" is an outcome of bad politics...If you do not change politics-investment in public health-there is no point in discussing pandemics...

So far the "politics" reaction to CoViD has been investing billions into "big pharma"...In Russia, China often "big-pharma" is state owned/controlled...India may go for public-private-partnership...In the west "big pharma" made major profits-billions-without taking any responsibility for the safety of vaccines (etc). With part of the profits going to -political- share holders...a legal way of corruption-funded by big pharma paying/buying politics...

"Never waste a good crisis" on this "profit based" "disaster plan" is only inviting more disasters...

In the US trump did push billions of tax payer money in "warp speed" vaccine development...without balancing it with good rules for public health...biden came up with "vaccinatd do not need masks"...crazy....Western politics did not only fail to stop pandemics-via good border control...(diseases fly for free !)...they also went for "living with the virus"...








A surprising jump in the Midwest's wastewater this week (http://Biotbot.io) Estimates on current active infections in the population: Midwest:  1 in 44 people β¬†οΈβ¬†οΈ Northeast:  1 in 70 people South:  1 in 72 people West:  1 in 75 people

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Guardian: England to deny Covid and flu jabs to under-65s despite fears for NHS this winter.

are the results of bad politics...

Are western governments killing their own people to get the rich even more rich ? Dengue-fever, malaria-both climate/musquito linked are increasing in Europe/US...








VIRAL PERSISTENCE of   SARS-COV-2 in CHILDREN and BABIES ! IS IT THERE FOREVER? πŸ˜¨πŸ˜¨πŸ˜¨ https://thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(23)00115-5/fulltext

DJ...CoViD staying in babies for the rest of their lives..."because we have to live with the virus"....I can not vote for such "politicians/criminals"!

H5N1

Finland: 24 fur farms now have H5N1 bird flu outbreaks

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Finland Social Security Minister: "The bird flu situation is serious" https://hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000009771318.html Finland Agriculture Minister: "The bird flu situation in Finland is under control"

DJ..."saving the economy"  by allowing H5N1 in fur farms in Finland, Poland...at least these countries report on H5N1 in fur-farms...Ukraine a.o. does NOT test, NOT report...








The English government have removed the part of their online report that says that absence in schools is driven by illness. Lies. Deceit. Cover ups. Yes, conspiracy, because there are people conspiring to hide the data about sickness in England.

DJ, If you test positive for CoViD you still can get on a flight...have to go to school...beyond insane !

New #COVID19 variant of interest: EG.5. Formerly a variant under monitoring, WHO has now designated this a variant of interest. There has been a steady increase in this variant’s prevalence. As of 7 August 2023, over 7000 sequences have been shared from 51 countries. More information: πŸ“Œ https://bit.ly/3fxWgnn

Here in NL EG.5 subvariant findings may be hidden in the XBB.1.9 statistics...

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part 2...

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-sars-cov-2-gq-1-is-one-the-8-newly-emerged-sub-lineages-that-could-be-more-lethal[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-sars-cov-2-gq-1-is-one-the-8-newly-emerged-sub-lineages-that-could-be-more-lethal 

The article describing also other new variants/mutations...NOT making CoViD milder...

also ;

Hij is er wel, hoor. Ze noemen de EG.5.1 alleen nog niet specifiek, maar hij valt onder XBB.1.9.

Not specifying subvariants (in time) is hiding the EG.5.1 subvariant "under" the XBB.1.9 major variant...

#COVID19 #VariantDashboard - #USA  Top #SARSCoV2 Lineages #21DAYTRENDS XBB.1.16  (7.8%) EG.5.1  (5.9%)   XBB.1.5  (5.1%) FL.1.5.1  (5.1%) XBB.1.16.6  (5.1%) EG.5.1.1  (4.5%) XBB.1.16.1  (3.8%) GJ.1.2  (3.7%) Tracker: http://tinyurl.com/mryj4uu7 | 08/11/23    

We may miss most CoViD and H5N1 (M-pox etc) spread -in both humans and other mammals- due to not testing and -often- so far not major disease...

DJ Again...after summer schools and workplaces reopening may see an explosion of cases...

I expected that high spread also last winter-it did not show then that much in most places...Since then restrictions have been lifted even more in many places...it is just a matter of time...but I love to be wrong !

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DJ, from a history perspective pandemics are NOT isolated events...

So [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/not-insane-cohort-americans-suddenly-asking-difficult-questions[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/not-insane-cohort-americans-suddenly-asking-difficult-questions may have some links...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmYybJZo3fo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmYybJZo3fo 

As part of negotiations for Saudi Arabia to recognize Israel, the United States is demanding that Riyadh keep pricing its oil in dollars, not China’s renminbi or other currencies. 

may be related...Also [url]http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2023/08/return-of-the-blob.html[/url] or http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2023/08/return-of-the-blob.html ;
The Blob is a large mass of water with relatively high heat content, floating at the surface and underneath the surface of the North Pacific Ocean. The Blob did appear several times before, including in 2016, which was a strong El Niño year. The above image shows high sea surface temperature anomalies in the North Pacific on August 10, 2023, raising the question of whether this constitutes a return of the Blob.

may have links with pandemics...

And yes;

Tracking #SARSCoV2 lineages with "#FLip #Mutation" [Spike L455F + F456L] over time - Globally   Total Sequences in 2023 : 1157 Tracker: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/raj.rajnarayanan/viz/TrackingLineageswithFLIPMutationsOverTime/FLIP  Note: Recent Epi weeks are incomplete; Includes seqs from Airport surveillance  Updated:08/12/23

mutations/changes in diseases itself also are a major factor...

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Again-the main reason why we ended up in the CoViD pandemic is bad politics...The idea of "lifting restrictions on global travel" never was meant to offer free travel to diseases...But it as an outcome that should not be a surprise...

We are now at a record high number of humans traveling much more than ever before...eating lots of animals-also another record ! 

If "disease-transport-host" we may have a record high number of animals kept as food...both those animals and humans transport themselves, mixing diseases to further spread those diseases where we live...

If "politics" simply denies simple facts-because "the economy" needs lots of hosts, transport, humans...than in fact politics is asking for climate collapse, pandemics...wars...

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Finland: H5N1 bird flu not airborne - yet. "It was found that the virus does not spread through the air, but when the virus mutates, this is one of the properties that it may develop." https://pandemicresponse.fi/post/the-methods-developed-for-pandemic-response-are-already-utilized-for-h5n1-avian-influenza-virus

So H5N1 is next ? ON TOP !!!! of CoViD ???? [url]https://www.insider.com/august-flu-vs-covid-infection-rate-2023-8[/url] or https://www.insider.com/august-flu-vs-covid-infection-rate-2023-8 

On the H5N1 study [url]https://www.pandemicresponse.fi/post/the-methods-developed-for-pandemic-response-are-already-utilized-for-h5n1-avian-influenza-virus[/url] or https://www.pandemicresponse.fi/post/the-methods-developed-for-pandemic-response-are-already-utilized-for-h5n1-avian-influenza-virus 

The H5N1 avian influenza virus is now spreading at an alarming rate. The virus has been known for almost 30 years and it has occurred in birds in waves as epidemics, especially in Asia. During the last three years, the virus has been circulating in Europe as well, and infections in wild birds have spread strongly in the continent. H5N1 infections have also been discovered in wild mammals, and at the end of last year in Spain, also in farm minks. The virus can therefore be transmitted from birds to mammals.


At the moment, the genome of the H5N1 virus is closely monitored for mutations, and how it affects the spread routes of the virus. Fortunately, this is the reason why the E3 project was started in the first place and what the project has researched over the past two years: responding to pandemics.


From that angle, the situation is much better now than before the COVID-19 pandemic. We know how to prepare and focus on matters that are significant in terms of the spread of the disease, such as the continuous monitoring of the virus' ability to transform and the study of the routes of spread."Without the methods developed already in the E3 project, we would not be able to react at this speed to this situation, which at worst could potentially lead to a new pandemic," says Tarja Sironen, Finland's leading virologist (University of Helsinki) and Researcher of the E3 project.

DJ...we have to stop fur-farms...but there is not agreement on that even....We have to ACT ! not RE-ACT !!! When you see a storm coming it may be wise to do something before it starts raining...Do we "act" when H5N1 starts spreading in humans ? Or when a coinfection with H1/H2/H3 and H5N1 results in a new flu type ? 

The basic problem is the way we think of money, economy...Do we go for profits or survival ? 

DJ..when you look at the "present global situation" the answer is clear; "We" go for profits...at the cost of survival...

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Can we "survive" ? NO !!!! The main question by now is what will kill us...

Maybe in a very optimistic scenario some people may be able to survive...there may be some "future for humanity"...

What is already killing us is a MIX !!!

-Climate change is already killing lots of people...in "wildfires", floodings, storms, heatwaves...

-CoViD may have killed between 25 and 40 million people ??? Since we stopped testing excess deaths are no longer linked to CoViD in the "official story"...Blame the victim...NOT the system...

-Wars are an increasing killer...Of course US gun violence is NOT seen as a US civil war...killing over 40,000 people per year...The Ukraine-biden-war did see hundreds of thousends killed...lots of other wars are ongoing...but "not news"...

DJ, Starvation may increase...the NATO expansion war in Ukraine will result in higher food and energy costs for Europe...We did not have a major famine in Europe since the 1940's...(before, during and shortly after W.W.2 we did see massive starvation from Ukraine-[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor Russia (a.o. battle of Leningrad [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#Effect_on_the_city[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#Effect_on_the_cityThe 872 days of the siege caused extreme famine in the Leningrad region through disruption of utilities, water, energy and food supplies. This resulted in the deaths of up to 1,500,000[77] soldiers and civilians and the evacuation of 1,400,000 more (mainly women and children), many of whom died during evacuation due to starvation and bombardment.[1][2]

DJ...Russia did beat nazi's...will beat nato...) Germany [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany#Captured_German_soldiers[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany#Captured_German_soldiers DJ-some estimates claim 200,000 Germans starved shortly after W.W.2  (till 1948)

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#Impact[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#Impact ; Estimates for the total number of casualties in the war vary, because many deaths went unrecorded.[360] Most suggest that some 60 million people died in the war, including about 20 million military personnel and 40 million civilians.[361][362][363] Many of the civilians died because of deliberate genocidemassacresmass bombingsdisease, and starvation.

DJ, Estimates on Spanish Flu deaths vary from 20 up to 100 million...Millions may have died in India, Dutch East Indies...never were included in the "official" statistics (since under the apartheid-rules they were not a "citizen" but a "subject" of the colonizing power...). Golbal popualation in 1918 may have been around 2 billion...so if 100 million people died it would be 5% of the global population...

Where are we now ?

Over 8 billion people-most of them living in urban area's with just-in-time delivery of supplies ...If 5% of them would die it would be 400 million deaths...

DJ-this is an OPTIMISTIC !!! scenario given the background...The 2020's are not the 1918-29 time...

-In 1918 people believed in a "god given order"...rulers ruled or faced revolution...A basic problem in 2023 is a total lack of trust, credibility of "rulers" in lots of countries...

-In 1918 most of the world still lived close to the land...food was not a major problem...The over 8 billion people in 2023 live far away from food sources...

-In 1918 logistics were short distance often...certainly for essentials (colonial goods were long distance). In 2023 logistics depend on the internet...

DJ-The internet is becoming more and more a weak spot...One can wait for a major "internet crisis"...You do not need a cyber attack for that...of course you may blame cyber-attacks...but the internet itself has to much weak points...it will crash-sooner or later- on a very large scale. We do see smaller internet "problems" disrupting banking or public transport (trains), stock exchange...It is just another crisis waiting to happen...

Of course currency-crises (collapse of the US$, € ) only further "fits in" with a "perfect storm"...

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox ;

The Fermi paradox is the discrepancy between the lack of conclusive evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life and the apparently high likelihood of its existence.[1][2] As a 2015 article put it, "If life is so easy, someone from somewhere must have come calling by now."[3]

In the end "our tendency" for self destruction is killing us...And of course one may blame "politics" but it is one part...Group behavior, doing what others do-even when one knows it is disruptive on the long run...(smoking, alcohol-overuse, cars...) also gives all of us a responsibility...

We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein
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